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  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDeqN5W4eV4

    Man, hopefully Merrill Reese doesn't die anytime soon. That would suck.
  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDeqN5W4eV4

    Man, hopefully Merrill Reese doesn't die anytime soon. That would suck.

    Not a Bruce fan personally but that was cool

    Isn't he a fan of the NY teams ?
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  • 4 game sweep?? Damn!

    No worries though, phils bats won't stay cold for long. A series in Washington should fix things
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  • Good win tonight. Poor Lidge got the hook. That's okay though. A new role may suit him for a while.
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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Good win tonight. Poor Lidge got the hook. That's okay though. A new role may suit him for a while.

    I think he's of no use for the rest of the season. In 2006, he got pulled from the closer role in September after blowing his 6th save of the season and was made the set-up man and finished the year pitching in 13 games with a 5.73 era. The next season as a set-up man for the first month of the year he had a 5.79 era. Then he accepted the demotion pitched dynamite for the next two months with a .70 era as a setup man got the closer job back and blew 4 of 23 save chances.

    Houston got fed up with him and then traded him to Philly.

    Hopefully he can turn it around. If not, the Phils still owe him over $25 million over the next three years.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Solat13 wrote:
    Good win tonight. Poor Lidge got the hook. That's okay though. A new role may suit him for a while.

    I think he's of no use for the rest of the season. In 2006, he got pulled from the closer role in September after blowing his 6th save of the season and was made the set-up man and finished the year pitching in 13 games with a 5.73 era. The next season as a set-up man for the first month of the year he had a 5.79 era. Then he accepted the demotion pitched dynamite for the next two months with a .70 era as a setup man got the closer job back and blew 4 of 23 save chances.

    Houston got fed up with him and then traded him to Philly.

    Hopefully he can turn it around. If not, the Phils still owe him over $25 million over the next three years.

    I hope he can too. Being a set-up guy failed in the past but that was on a different team at a different time. Maybe now that he's on a good-hitting championship team, he'll take it as a "We're gonna try this for while" rather than "you're demoted and if you keep screwing up, you're gone" like it was in Huston and he'll feel less pressure.
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,427
    gotta be done with Lidge for this season now. I mean you got a 2 run lead and don't feel safe with the guy. Charlie cannot keep sending him out there. Madson and Myers have to be the guys now. Madson was flat-out awesome last night - 6 pithces to their two best hitters.

    The bench on this team is disgraceful. Stairs hasn't had a hit since the All-Star game - are you kidding me? The guy will always be a legend in Phillies lore because of the Dodgers home run last year but he is awful. Bruntlett don't get me started on. the only halfway decent one is Francisco and he is nothing special.

    Good news is Ibanez looks to be getting back in gear.
  • pjhawks wrote:
    gotta be done with Lidge for this season now. I mean you got a 2 run lead and don't feel safe with the guy. Charlie cannot keep sending him out there. Madson and Myers have to be the guys now. Madson was flat-out awesome last night - 6 pithces to their two best hitters.

    The bench on this team is disgraceful. Stairs hasn't had a hit since the All-Star game - are you kidding me? The guy will always be a legend in Phillies lore because of the Dodgers home run last year but he is awful. Bruntlett don't get me started on. the only halfway decent one is Francisco and he is nothing special.

    Good news is Ibanez looks to be getting back in gear.

    It will be okay, everything will be okay... It's not October yet

    We gotta support our Phils during these trying times. :)
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  • Cholly says he will still go with Lidge tonight if its a save situation
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  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    Cholly says he will still go with Lidge tonight if its a save situation

    I think you have to give Lidge a shot to get his confidence back but you have to have a short leash on him and not be afraid to pull him from a game like Charlie did last night.

    Masdon has yet to prove he can close and unless Myers can step into that role, there is no one in the bullpen right now with closer material. The worst thing this team could do is try closer by committee.
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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    chromiam wrote:
    Cholly says he will still go with Lidge tonight if its a save situation

    I think you have to give Lidge a shot to get his confidence back but you have to have a short leash on him and not be afraid to pull him from a game like Charlie did last night.

    Masdon has yet to prove he can close and unless Myers can step into that role, there is no one in the bullpen right now with closer material. The worst thing this team could do is try closer by committee.

    The problem I see is that Charlie waited too long with Lidge.

    In 2005, Francona pulled the plug on the Keith Foulke experience after his fifth blown save in 20 tries and a 6.23 era on July 4th. Those numbers kind of sound familiar. Foulke was the hero of Boston's bullpen in 2004 pitching in 11 games in the post season with a .64 ERA and out pitching Rivera. The Red Sox never win the WS without Foulke in 2004. The next year he just didn't have it.

    By pulling the plug early, it allowed Francona to try Schilling at closer for a few weeks before settling on Mike Timlin in mid August who saved 11 out of 12 down the stretch and got the Red Sox back in the post season.

    I like Lidge alot and what he did last year was special, but at this point you're kind of stuck with him. It's too late in the season to give someone else a shot.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    Solat13 wrote:
    chromiam wrote:
    Cholly says he will still go with Lidge tonight if its a save situation

    I think you have to give Lidge a shot to get his confidence back but you have to have a short leash on him and not be afraid to pull him from a game like Charlie did last night.

    Masdon has yet to prove he can close and unless Myers can step into that role, there is no one in the bullpen right now with closer material. The worst thing this team could do is try closer by committee.

    The problem I see is that Charlie waited too long with Lidge.

    In 2005, Francona pulled the plug on the Keith Foulke experience after his fifth blown save in 20 tries and a 6.23 era on July 4th. Those numbers kind of sound familiar. Foulke was the hero of Boston's bullpen in 2004 pitching in 11 games in the post season with a .64 ERA and out pitching Rivera. The Red Sox never win the WS without Foulke in 2004. The next year he just didn't have it.

    By pulling the plug early, it allowed Francona to try Schilling at closer for a few weeks before settling on Mike Timlin in mid August who saved 11 out of 12 down the stretch and got the Red Sox back in the post season.

    I like Lidge alot and what he did last year was special, but at this point you're kind of stuck with him. It's too late in the season to give someone else a shot.

    I gotcha there but Lidge was on the DL and after his stint there seemed to start pitching more effectively. It's really just been a recent thing (last month) that he's reverted to the Lidge of the early season who was pitching ineffectively.

    I kinda agree that is might be late but Charlie is going to have to designate bullpen roles over the next couple weeks so that there is some stabilty come the postseason.
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  • The ChampThe Champ Posts: 4,063
    You know if Pedro were still a Met he would have continued to suck..pretty painful to watch, but I respect the guy...first time he made it into the 8th inning in three years and pitching like fucking Cy Young..flipping perfect....anyway, I was pleasantly surprised that the lonely Mets were actually competitive. Three games decided by 1 run and the other by 2..see you next year..
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,427
    watching this bullpen is like being a mets fan. can we please stop with Lidge? do we think after 6 bad months he is all of a sudden going to become good again? he sucks this year, enough with it.
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    I could just be caught up in Pedro mania and reliving his glory years, but over the last month - since his first start on 8/12 - you could argue that he's been the Phils most effective pitcher.

    Pedro 5-0 (Team Rec in starts 7-0), 2.87 ERA, 34 K, 6 BBs, 35 H, 37 2/3 IP
    Lee 4-2 (Team Rec in starts 4-2), 3.92 ERA, 36 K, 3 BBs, 43 H, 39 IP
    Blanton 2-1 (Team Rec in starts 3-3), 4.42 ERA, 29 K, 12 BBs, 39 H, 38 2/3 IP
    Hamels 2-2 (Team Rec in starts 3-3), 2.43 ERA, 36 K, 10 BBs, 37 H, 40 2/3 IP
    Moyer 2-0 (Team Rec in starts 0-2), 3.08 ERA, 16 K, 2 BBs, 17 H, 26 1/3 IP
    Happ 2-2 (Team Rec in starts 3-2), 2.86 ERA, 18 K, 15 BB, 33 H, 34 2/3 IP

    In my opinion, Pedro has pitched himself onto the post season rotation with 4 starts to go.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,427
    looks like Park might be done - injury didn't look good. Magic Number 11 and counting - can we make it easy and get some rest at the end of the year?
  • pjhawks wrote:
    looks like Park might be done - injury didn't look good. Magic Number 11 and counting - can we make it easy and get some rest at the end of the year?

    Yeah, definitely sucks. Surprising as he does all those crazy stretches. Hopefully he'll be able to pitch in the latter half of the playoffs if we get there. Question is, when they clinch, do they still go after the #1 spot in the standings for home-field advantage in the NL by playing out the majority of those games with starters? 2.5 back of LA of the #1 spot. I'd at least like to have the #2 spot like we did last year.

    On an aside, I totally forgot Chan Ho was the dude who round-house karate kicked that pitcher for the Angels when he was on the Dodgers back in the day. Funny stuff.
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    pjhawks wrote:
    looks like Park might be done - injury didn't look good. Magic Number 11 and counting - can we make it easy and get some rest at the end of the year?

    Yeah, definitely sucks. Surprising as he does all those crazy stretches. Hopefully he'll be able to pitch in the latter half of the playoffs if we get there. Question is, when they clinch, do they still go after the #1 spot in the standings for home-field advantage in the NL by playing out the majority of those games with starters? 2.5 back of LA of the #1 spot. I'd at least like to have the #2 spot like we did last year.

    The schedule works against them to catch the Dodgers. The Dodgers have 15 games left and 6 are with the Rockies and Giants, but their other 9 games are against the dregs of the NL - SD, DC and Pitt.

    Phils have a 1/2 game lead on STL but have 18 games left compared to STL's 15.

    It should be a real good race for the two seed.

    PHL has 1 with DC, a road trip for 3 to Atl, 3 with FL and 4 with Mil before coming home for 4 with Hous and 3 with FL.

    STL has 3 with the Cubs before going on the road with 3 to Hous, 3 in Colorado and 3 in Cincy before finsihing at home with Mil.

    I don't think the Phils can rest at all if they want home field in the first round, but it's unlikely they catch LA. Blew too many close games late to get the 1 seed.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,427
    pjhawks wrote:
    looks like Park might be done - injury didn't look good. Magic Number 11 and counting - can we make it easy and get some rest at the end of the year?

    Yeah, definitely sucks. Surprising as he does all those crazy stretches. Hopefully he'll be able to pitch in the latter half of the playoffs if we get there. Question is, when they clinch, do they still go after the #1 spot in the standings for home-field advantage in the NL by playing out the majority of those games with starters? 2.5 back of LA of the #1 spot. I'd at least like to have the #2 spot like we did last year.

    On an aside, I totally forgot Chan Ho was the dude who round-house karate kicked that pitcher for the Angels when he was on the Dodgers back in the day. Funny stuff.

    I say no on playing the starters - those guys need some rest. The infield especially plays every inning of every game because their backsups suck so bad. I think as long as you stay 2nd you are fine and will avoid the Cardinals which is the team I think you want to avoid in the 5 game series. Definitely want Dodgers or Rockies unless of course the Rockies choke and the Giants overtake them.
  • Solat13 wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    looks like Park might be done - injury didn't look good. Magic Number 11 and counting - can we make it easy and get some rest at the end of the year?

    Yeah, definitely sucks. Surprising as he does all those crazy stretches. Hopefully he'll be able to pitch in the latter half of the playoffs if we get there. Question is, when they clinch, do they still go after the #1 spot in the standings for home-field advantage in the NL by playing out the majority of those games with starters? 2.5 back of LA of the #1 spot. I'd at least like to have the #2 spot like we did last year.

    The schedule works against them to catch the Dodgers. The Dodgers have 15 games left and 6 are with the Rockies and Giants, but their other 9 games are against the dregs of the NL - SD, DC and Pitt.

    Phils have a 1/2 game lead on STL but have 18 games left compared to STL's 15.

    It should be a real good race for the two seed.

    PHL has 1 with DC, a road trip for 3 to Atl, 3 with FL and 4 with Mil before coming home for 4 with Hous and 3 with FL.

    STL has 3 with the Cubs before going on the road with 3 to Hous, 3 in Colorado and 3 in Cincy before finsihing at home with Mil.

    I don't think the Phils can rest at all if they want home field in the first round, but it's unlikely they catch LA. Blew too many close games late to get the 1 seed.

    Yeah, like I said, the #2 spot would be just fine with me. That way at least we get home field in the 5 game series, which is friggin SSSHUUUGE. And who knows, maybe St. Louis bumps off LA(who is 5-2 in the season series against the Dodgers) and we end up with the home field again like last year.
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996

    Yeah, like I said, the #2 spot would be just fine with me. That way at least we get home field in the 5 game series, which is friggin SSSHUUUGE. And who knows, maybe St. Louis bumps off LA(who is 5-2 in the season series against the Dodgers) and we end up with the home field again like last year.


    The 2 seed is huge but it won't be decided until the end of the season so I don't think there will be much time if any to rest the starters.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Solat13 wrote:

    Yeah, like I said, the #2 spot would be just fine with me. That way at least we get home field in the 5 game series, which is friggin SSSHUUUGE. And who knows, maybe St. Louis bumps off LA(who is 5-2 in the season series against the Dodgers) and we end up with the home field again like last year.


    The 2 seed is huge but it won't be decided until the end of the season so I don't think there will be much time if any to rest the starters.

    Yeah, I could see skipping a a spot in the rotation maybe once to work it out so Cole starts game 1 fully rested(and that's who will start game 1). Other than that, I think Feliz may get some time off to get Dobbs some AB's, Shane sits down maybe once to rest his knee, and Raul a couple times to get Ben some AB's. Other than that, I think everyone plays it out. Most of these guys are everyday ironmen anyway so I don't see it being a problem leading to fatigue. They'll get their couple days off between the end of the season and the playoffs.
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996

    Yeah, I could see skipping a a spot in the rotation maybe once to work it out so Cole starts game 1 fully rested(and that's who will start game 1). Other than that, I think Feliz may get some time off to get Dobbs some AB's, Shane sits down maybe once to rest his knee, and Raul a couple times to get Ben some AB's. Other than that, I think everyone plays it out. Most of these guys are everyday ironmen anyway so I don't see it being a problem leading to fatigue. They'll get their couple days off between the end of the season and the playoffs.

    Yep, Hamels will start Game 1 and barring any rain outs, he's set to pitch Game 1 right now. Pitches tonight, the 22nd, 27th, 2nd and would be on regular rest Game 1 on the 7th.

    I can see them rotating the OF to work Dobbs in and rest a guy here or there, but Rollins, Utley and Howard won't have any off days until their seed is set.

    I do kind of wish I can see another lineup like last year's final game of the season though:

    1. Taguchi LF
    2. Bruntlett SS
    3. Iguchi 2B
    4. Jenkins RF
    5. Coste 1B
    6. Cervenak 3B
    7. Golson CF
    8. Marson C
    9. Kendrick P

    and Les Walrond, whoever that is, got the win for the Phils in relief.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Solat13 wrote:

    Yeah, I could see skipping a a spot in the rotation maybe once to work it out so Cole starts game 1 fully rested(and that's who will start game 1). Other than that, I think Feliz may get some time off to get Dobbs some AB's, Shane sits down maybe once to rest his knee, and Raul a couple times to get Ben some AB's. Other than that, I think everyone plays it out. Most of these guys are everyday ironmen anyway so I don't see it being a problem leading to fatigue. They'll get their couple days off between the end of the season and the playoffs.

    Yep, Hamels will start Game 1 and barring any rain outs, he's set to pitch Game 1 right now. Pitches tonight, the 22nd, 27th, 2nd and would be on regular rest Game 1 on the 7th.

    I can see them rotating the OF to work Dobbs in and rest a guy here or there, but Rollins, Utley and Howard won't have any off days until their seed is set.

    I do kind of wish I can see another lineup like last year's final game of the season though:

    1. Taguchi LF
    2. Bruntlett SS
    3. Iguchi 2B
    4. Jenkins RF
    5. Coste 1B
    6. Cervenak 3B
    7. Golson CF
    8. Marson C
    9. Kendrick P

    and Les Walrond, whoever that is, got the win for the Phils in relief.

    Ha! Les Walrond - totally forgot about that guy, but who hasn't?
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  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    Solat13 wrote:

    Yeah, I could see skipping a a spot in the rotation maybe once to work it out so Cole starts game 1 fully rested(and that's who will start game 1). Other than that, I think Feliz may get some time off to get Dobbs some AB's, Shane sits down maybe once to rest his knee, and Raul a couple times to get Ben some AB's. Other than that, I think everyone plays it out. Most of these guys are everyday ironmen anyway so I don't see it being a problem leading to fatigue. They'll get their couple days off between the end of the season and the playoffs.

    Yep, Hamels will start Game 1 and barring any rain outs, he's set to pitch Game 1 right now. Pitches tonight, the 22nd, 27th, 2nd and would be on regular rest Game 1 on the 7th.

    I can see them rotating the OF to work Dobbs in and rest a guy here or there, but Rollins, Utley and Howard won't have any off days until their seed is set.

    I do kind of wish I can see another lineup like last year's final game of the season though:

    1. Taguchi LF
    2. Bruntlett SS
    3. Iguchi 2B
    4. Jenkins RF
    5. Coste 1B
    6. Cervenak 3B
    7. Golson CF
    8. Marson C
    9. Kendrick P

    and Les Walrond, whoever that is, got the win for the Phils in relief.

    Blog on philly.com website states that Lee is set up to start game one of the NLDS and Cole will go in game 2....
    http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/phil ... ts_up.html
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  • chromiam wrote:
    Solat13 wrote:

    Yeah, I could see skipping a a spot in the rotation maybe once to work it out so Cole starts game 1 fully rested(and that's who will start game 1). Other than that, I think Feliz may get some time off to get Dobbs some AB's, Shane sits down maybe once to rest his knee, and Raul a couple times to get Ben some AB's. Other than that, I think everyone plays it out. Most of these guys are everyday ironmen anyway so I don't see it being a problem leading to fatigue. They'll get their couple days off between the end of the season and the playoffs.

    Yep, Hamels will start Game 1 and barring any rain outs, he's set to pitch Game 1 right now. Pitches tonight, the 22nd, 27th, 2nd and would be on regular rest Game 1 on the 7th.

    I can see them rotating the OF to work Dobbs in and rest a guy here or there, but Rollins, Utley and Howard won't have any off days until their seed is set.

    I do kind of wish I can see another lineup like last year's final game of the season though:

    1. Taguchi LF
    2. Bruntlett SS
    3. Iguchi 2B
    4. Jenkins RF
    5. Coste 1B
    6. Cervenak 3B
    7. Golson CF
    8. Marson C
    9. Kendrick P

    and Les Walrond, whoever that is, got the win for the Phils in relief.

    Blog on philly.com website states that Lee is set up to start game one of the NLDS and Cole will go in game 2....
    http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/phil ... ts_up.html

    Yeah, that's going by Murph's assumptions. I'm gonna stick to my guns that Cole pitches game 1. I can't see how he doesn't unless he falters soon - and he surely didn't do that last night.
  • it totally blows about Park.

    I can't believe we're on our way again (fingers crossed). What a great couple of years it has been to be a Phillies fan, especically after all the lousy years we endured.

    I'm reading the Remembering Harry Kalas book right now.

    I miss Harry :cry:
  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
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    The problem is, I don't see any assumptions there. The way the rotation is set up right now Hamels would be on 3 days rest to pitch game 1 which would make no sense at all, especially after his two prior starts would be with 4 days rest. I agree that Cole will most likely start game one, but the Phils are going to have to do some shuffling for that to happen.
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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
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    The problem is, I don't see any assumptions there. The way the rotation is set up right now Hamels would be on 3 days rest to pitch game 1 which would make no sense at all, especially after his two prior starts would be with 4 days rest. I agree that Cole will most likely start game one, but the Phils are going to have to do some shuffling for that to happen.

    Not sure when the blogger wrote his prediction, but the Phils website has Hamels pitching on Tuesday and not Wednesday as part of the doubleheader on four days rest which would keep him in line for Game 1.
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