***The Official Philadelphia Phillies 2012 Thread***

Jearlpam0925

pjhawks wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

jamminpearls wrote:

I truly wonder if u actually know how much of a douchebag u sound like. Seriously people like u are why we Philadelphia fans get a bad name. Never happy don't appericate shit until its gone winning titles in another city. I now understand why outsiders hate us some much,because of ungrateful so called fans like you.

The dude does not like one player and that makes him a douchebag and ungrateful? You don't have to love every player on your team. I think he is realistic, not ungrateful. It's bickering and calling names that gives you a worse name, a debate is a debate, you don't have to agree.

the fact that he (the Fixer) constantly harps on a hall of fame level player on a daily basis makes him one of those Phily type fans that jamminpearls is referring to. not to mention how condescending his arguments are in that everyone else's opinions don't matter (as in mvps, hall of fame. etc. don't matter because HE says so). so yes I agree with jamminpearls here.

Dude, condescending? This coming from the guy that always likes to refer to people as WIP trash when they have an opinion different from his - though it seems like the only one who comes off as a WIP zombie is the one spewing those same accusations.

You're all acting ridiculous. Talk about the pot calling the kettle....something something.

pjhawks

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Dude, condescending? This coming from the guy that always likes to refer to people as WIP trash when they have an opinion different from his - though it seems like the only one who comes off as a WIP zombie is the one spewing those same accusations.

You're all acting ridiculous. Talk about the pot calling the kettle....something something.

jearlpam - never did i call anyone WIP-Trash - i said at times there is WIP-itis on this board. Running McNabb out of town and ripping on Ryan Howard on a daily basis is WIP-like behavior, regardless if you ever listen to that crap. When one person rips on the top level players of each franchise in the city I would consider that WIP-itis would you not?

Phantom Pain

Man..I wish this team would just start winning so most of you would clean your Man-gina's else where !

We in Philly tend to eat our own..prime example is this thread

Anyone going Saturday ? I'll be there !

Jearlpam0925

pjhawks wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Dude, condescending? This coming from the guy that always likes to refer to people as WIP trash when they have an opinion different from his - though it seems like the only one who comes off as a WIP zombie is the one spewing those same accusations.

You're all acting ridiculous. Talk about the pot calling the kettle....something something.

jearlpam - never did i call anyone WIP-Trash - i said at times there is WIP-itis on this board. Running McNabb out of town and ripping on Ryan Howard on a daily basis is WIP-like behavior, regardless if you ever listen to that crap. When one person rips on the top level players of each franchise in the city I would consider that WIP-itis would you not?

Personally, from everything I've ever seen you write in the Eagles thread I've always thought you've had a hard-on with anyone who's been critical of McNabb and have had a trigger finger to talk down to anyone who did so.

That aside, the dude never said he hates Howard, he hates the contract. And I can understand why. The dude likes to talk baseball through and through - from OBP to contracts. Call him a nerd, but not uninformed or misguided.

Jearlpam0925

Phantom Pain wrote:

Man..I wish this team would just start winning so most of you would clean your Man-gina's else where !

We in Philly tend to eat our own..prime example is this thread

Anyone going Saturday ? I'll be there !

EXACTLY. And that is the single biggest problem with our fan base.

The Fixer

Phantom Pain wrote:

Man..I wish this team would just start winning so most of you would clean your Man-gina's else where !

We in Philly tend to eat our own..prime example is this thread

Anyone going Saturday ? I'll be there !

I'll be there saturday wearing my ryan howard jersey

jamminpearls

The Fixer wrote:

Phantom Pain wrote:

Man..I wish this team would just start winning so most of you would clean your Man-gina's else where !

We in Philly tend to eat our own..prime example is this thread

Anyone going Saturday ? I'll be there !

I'll be there saturday wearing my ryan howard jersey

Lol,that was funny.

The Fixer

everyone here is entitled to an opinion. if others disagree with said opinion, it's somewhere that we can debate and discuss. I always thought that name calling during debates was the equivalent of admitting defeat...there's nothing productive that comes from that type of crap....that's what my 4 year old nephews do.

jamminpearls and pjhawks love howard. I don't, mainly becasue of his contract. pjhawks has even said that he doesn't care how much a player makes in a given year. I disagree with that line of thinking because I care about winning not only in 2010, but in future years as well. I don't understand that fan point of view, but I'm not here to pretend to be a GM or call people names. I can just make my points for not liking howard relative to his all around production (ie, not just shiny HRs and RBI) and salary.

Not everyone is going to like every player on the team that they root for. There's no law that says they have to (frankly I think it's ridiculous that people get upset about anyone NOT liking any player...seriously, who cares?). There are tons of philly fans that hated allen iverson, even though he is one of the best players in franchise history.

If you don't like my opinions, I invite you to debate. or call names if you want. I don't really give a shit...those types of actions just make you look foolish. I don't think it's a coincidence that those here who seem to know the most about baseball tend to agree most of the time.

The Fixer

manuel is brutal tonight. he has made about 5 questionable moves in the last 2 innings alone

EDIT: not even manuel could prevent a win. welcome back rollins. time to get on a roll fellas

Jearlpam0925

WELCOME BACK, JIMMY BOY!!

xavier mcdaniel

talk about a story that writes itself with rollins homering.

Jearlpam0925

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

talk about a story that writes itself with rollins homering.

How bout it??? Hopefully a couple months from now we look back at that AB as the one that changed the mentality around here......hopefully.

When Wood threw that first 95 mph ball, I thought of Broxton. :thumbup: :thumbup:

xavier mcdaniel

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

talk about a story that writes itself with rollins homering.

How bout it??? Hopefully a couple months from now we look back at that AB as the one that changed the mentality around here......hopefully.

When Wood threw that first 95 mph ball, I thought of Broxton. :thumbup: :thumbup:

I guess the mentality among fans is way different. When I around the Phils last week, I never thought they stopped having that mindset just they hit a bump in the road.

Jearlpam0925

Looks like the Phils will definitely be going after a reliever now. Manuel sounds like Durbin's hammy is serious.

Cosart and Brown announced on the Futures' roster.

Jearlpam0925

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

talk about a story that writes itself with rollins homering.

How bout it??? Hopefully a couple months from now we look back at that AB as the one that changed the mentality around here......hopefully.

When Wood threw that first 95 mph ball, I thought of Broxton. :thumbup: :thumbup:

I guess the mentality among fans is way different. When I around the Phils last week, I never thought they stopped having that mindset just they hit a bump in the road.

Yeah, it all balances out, but it's been pretty maligned around the ballpark and everything. Not the same energy when going to the games. The past 3 or 4 weeks have just seemed like an eternity now.

xavier mcdaniel

I remember those kind of slumps with the Yankees in various years. In 2003, they lost Bernie Williams for a while, got swept in a four-game series by the Jays and then were no-hit. Two years later, it was a massive struggle to stay around .500 after the team began 11-19 and the same thing in 2007. Bottom line is to limit the malaise to no more than three to four weeks.

The Fixer

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Looks like the Phils will definitely be going after a reliever now. Manuel sounds like Durbin's hammy is serious.

Cosart and Brown announced on the Futures' roster.

Madson is supposed to throw in a rehab game this weekend. Zagurski's fat ass looked great tonight. They still have figueroa right? he can take durbin's spot for 2 weeks.

Here's some futures news from keith law...he's the best prospect analyst out there

Jarred Cosart, RHP, Philadelphia Phillies/USA:
I've been a little bit of a broken record on this one, but Cosart has pitched his way into the upper echelon of starter prospects in the minors with a major uptick in his velocity this season.

Brett Wallace, 3B; Travis d'Arnaud, C; Kyle Drabek, RHP, Toronto Blue Jays/USA:
The three prospects who ended up in Toronto as a result of the Roy Halladay trade (and a subsequent swap with Oakland) are all absent from the Futures Game. Wallace and Drabek were in it last year, but d'Arnaud is emerging as one of the top catching prospects in the minors and is more advanced defensively than Tony Sanchez or Austin Romine. And that trade was a dominant news story in MLB's offseason, so we should show the fans what the fuss was about on the minor league side.

The Fixer

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

I remember those kind of slumps with the Yankees in various years. In 2003, they lost Bernie Williams for a while, got swept in a four-game series by the Jays and then were no-hit. Two years later, it was a massive struggle to stay around .500 after the team began 11-19 and the same thing in 2007. Bottom line is to limit the malaise to no more than three to four weeks.

I am a big proponent of the theory that good, veteran squads get bored during the year. I think the phils have experienced that problem this year (along with a lot of injuries). They will get to the all star break within 5 games of first and be primed for a playoff run.

Jearlpam0925

The Fixer wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Looks like the Phils will definitely be going after a reliever now. Manuel sounds like Durbin's hammy is serious.

Cosart and Brown announced on the Futures' roster.

Madson is supposed to throw in a rehab game this weekend. Zagurski's fat ass looked great tonight. They still have figueroa right? he can take durbin's spot for 2 weeks.

Here's some futures news from keith law...he's the best prospect analyst out there

Jarred Cosart, RHP, Philadelphia Phillies/USA:
I've been a little bit of a broken record on this one, but Cosart has pitched his way into the upper echelon of starter prospects in the minors with a major uptick in his velocity this season.

Brett Wallace, 3B; Travis d'Arnaud, C; Kyle Drabek, RHP, Toronto Blue Jays/USA:
The three prospects who ended up in Toronto as a result of the Roy Halladay trade (and a subsequent swap with Oakland) are all absent from the Futures Game. Wallace and Drabek were in it last year, but d'Arnaud is emerging as one of the top catching prospects in the minors and is more advanced defensively than Tony Sanchez or Austin Romine. And that trade was a dominant news story in MLB's offseason, so we should show the fans what the fuss was about on the minor league side.

Yeah, I just think they still need another arm.

Also, I looked up Taylor's stats - he's not doing much to talk about either.

The Fixer

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Looks like the Phils will definitely be going after a reliever now. Manuel sounds like Durbin's hammy is serious.

Cosart and Brown announced on the Futures' roster.

Madson is supposed to throw in a rehab game this weekend. Zagurski's fat ass looked great tonight. They still have figueroa right? he can take durbin's spot for 2 weeks.

Here's some futures news from keith law...he's the best prospect analyst out there

Jarred Cosart, RHP, Philadelphia Phillies/USA:
I've been a little bit of a broken record on this one, but Cosart has pitched his way into the upper echelon of starter prospects in the minors with a major uptick in his velocity this season.

Brett Wallace, 3B; Travis d'Arnaud, C; Kyle Drabek, RHP, Toronto Blue Jays/USA:
The three prospects who ended up in Toronto as a result of the Roy Halladay trade (and a subsequent swap with Oakland) are all absent from the Futures Game. Wallace and Drabek were in it last year, but d'Arnaud is emerging as one of the top catching prospects in the minors and is more advanced defensively than Tony Sanchez or Austin Romine. And that trade was a dominant news story in MLB's offseason, so we should show the fans what the fuss was about on the minor league side.

Yeah, I just think they still need another arm.

Also, I looked up Taylor's stats - he's not doing much to talk about either.

yeah, I read he was struggling too. just don't look up the stats of the guys they got back for cliff lee. not pretty. man, what a terrrible, terrible trade.

can they trade amaro?