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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Solat13 wrote:
    Alright all you minor league geeks do we have anything left to try and sure up the back-end of the bullpen ?

    I'm not all warm and fuzzy with Madson and Lidge

    No idea what teams look for but this guy needs to go somewhere where he can play:

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/minor ... zzot001mat

    Leads AA in hitting and is obviously blocked in the majors

    keith law chat today...I'd absolutely try to move this guy for a bullpen piece

    Brian (Philly)Has Rizzotti's stock gone up considering that he is leading the Eastern League in a lot of categories?

    KlawHe's 24, not very athletic, limited to 1b/dh. Has some value, but I don't think many teams are going to project him as more than a fringe regular. More value today than he had in April, certainly.
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,953
    I'm an idiot. I kept saying the Phils are playing the Marlins this weekend. Washington, it's Washington, and I'm an idiot. So Oswalt, Blanton, Hamels in DC. We better take 2, if not sweep.
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,317
    I'm an idiot. I kept saying the Phils are playing the Marlins this weekend. Washington, it's Washington, and I'm an idiot. So Oswalt, Blanton, Hamels in DC. We better take 2, if not sweep.

    And we're not facing Strasburg. Time to start winning some road games.
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    I'm an idiot. I kept saying the Phils are playing the Marlins this weekend. Washington, it's Washington, and I'm an idiot. So Oswalt, Blanton, Hamels in DC. We better take 2, if not sweep.

    And we're not facing Strasburg. Time to start winning some road games.

    amen on the road games

    deal is done...

    jonathan villar (SS)
    happ
    anthony gose (CF)

    Nice trade for the phils. Rollins negotiating power just went through the roof with Villar gone
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,953
    Wouldn't be surprised to see Happ shut down immediately, and get the surgery.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,472
    Wouldn't be surprised to see Happ shut down immediately, and get the surgery.

    isn't it refreshing to see us all agree on something here?

    this was a pretty damn good way for amaro to redeem himself.
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,953
    Wouldn't be surprised to see Happ shut down immediately, and get the surgery.

    isn't it refreshing to see us all agree on something here?

    this was a pretty damn good way for amaro to redeem himself.

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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,317
    Wouldn't be surprised to see Happ shut down immediately, and get the surgery.

    isn't it refreshing to see us all agree on something here?

    this was a pretty damn good way for amaro to redeem himself.

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    :lol::lol::lol:

    Um, it's still not official, right? Let's not start sucking each other's d***s just yet.
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  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    did i miss all the oswalt waiving his trade clause comments.
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Wouldn't be surprised to see Happ shut down immediately, and get the surgery.

    isn't it refreshing to see us all agree on something here?

    this was a pretty damn good way for amaro to redeem himself.

    phils should have had lee all year to begin with. not a complete redemption, but a nice move

    and to whoever asked, yes, the trade is done. oswalt pitching friday or saturday for phils vs dc
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,472
    The Fixer wrote:
    Wouldn't be surprised to see Happ shut down immediately, and get the surgery.

    isn't it refreshing to see us all agree on something here?

    this was a pretty damn good way for amaro to redeem himself.

    phils should have had lee all year to begin with. not a complete redemption, but a nice move

    and to whoever asked, yes, the trade is done. oswalt pitching friday or saturday for phils vs dc

    agreed.....my only point was i dont think there was any other better option for him to make this year than this. say what you want about rube, at least he admits he made a mistake and tried to rectify it in a timely matter......unlike your fat boy across the street :mrgreen:
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,953
    The Fixer wrote:
    Wouldn't be surprised to see Happ shut down immediately, and get the surgery.

    isn't it refreshing to see us all agree on something here?

    this was a pretty damn good way for amaro to redeem himself.

    phils should have had lee all year to begin with. not a complete redemption, but a nice move

    and to whoever asked, yes, the trade is done. oswalt pitching friday or saturday for phils vs dc

    Yeah, he's pitching tomorrow night.

    If they go to the WS then Amaro's totally redeemed himself. Also, you get Oswalt next year, which you wouldn't have gotten with Lee.

    Prospects aside - and that's exactly what they are, prospects - I look at it this way: Clif Lee and JA Happ for Roy Halladay and Roy Oswalt. And I'm more than fine with that.
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837

    Prospects aside - and that's exactly what they are, prospects - I look at it this way: Clif Lee and JA Happ for Roy Halladay and Roy Oswalt. And I'm more than fine with that.

    good point.

    brown on the bench tonight. manuel stinks. of course crusty is starting in LF
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996

    Prospects aside - and that's exactly what they are, prospects - I look at it this way: Clif Lee and JA Happ for Roy Halladay and Roy Oswalt. And I'm more than fine with that.

    Of course you could have just released Blanton in the offseason and had:

    Halladay, Lee, Oswalt, Hamels as your rotation. ;)

    But I can't complain too much for what the Phils have gotten today.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,953
    Solat13 wrote:

    Prospects aside - and that's exactly what they are, prospects - I look at it this way: Clif Lee and JA Happ for Roy Halladay and Roy Oswalt. And I'm more than fine with that.

    Of course you could have just released Blanton in the offseason and had:

    Halladay, Lee, Oswalt, Hamels as your rotation. ;)

    But I can't complain too much for what the Phils have gotten today.

    C'mon, now. What am I doing, playing a video game?

    I will give Amaro the benefit of the doubt for saying if you wanted Halladay you couldn't have Lee too. I'll give him that. I just don't like the way they did both trades at the same time.
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,420
    although I'm not a huge Oswalt fan have to say thanks to Ed Wade for his continuing moronic deadline deals. Phils didn't give up too much and got $11 million dollars in the deal - how is that possible? Definitely take Oswalt as our third starter. Braves got to be worrying now.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,472
    pjhawks wrote:
    although I'm not a huge Oswalt fan have to say thanks to Ed Wade for his continuing moronic deadline deals. Phils didn't give up too much and got $11 million dollars in the deal - how is that possible? Definitely take Oswalt as our third starter. Braves got to be worrying now.


    ed wade loves giving away EVERYTHING at the trade deadline.

    god bless him.

    --i once saw him at a villanova game at the corestates center back in the day. i was about 15 feet away and gave him the ol' " HEY ED WADE---YOU SUCK!" he pretended to not notice. but i know it still haunts him to this very day.

    bear in mind this was a 25 year old jeagler with waaaaaaaay too many beers in him for 12:30 in the afternoon.

    god bless america.
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,953
    And the good news keeps on coming....Nats about to beat Atlanta....haaachachacha
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    And the good news keeps on coming....Nats about to beat Atlanta....haaachachacha

    yep, the tide is turning fellas (not sure if that's the correct saying, but you get the point)

    get it down to 2.5 with a win tonight. then watch the braves ass holes tighten
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,710
    pjhawks wrote:
    although I'm not a huge Oswalt fan have to say thanks to Ed Wade for his continuing moronic deadline deals. Phils didn't give up too much and got $11 million dollars in the deal - how is that possible? Definitely take Oswalt as our third starter. Braves got to be worrying now.


    ed wade loves giving away EVERYTHING at the trade deadline.

    god bless him.

    --i once saw him at a villanova game at the corestates center back in the day. i was about 15 feet away and gave him the ol' " HEY ED WADE---YOU SUCK!" he pretended to not notice. but i know it still haunts him to this very day.

    bear in mind this was a 25 year old jeagler with waaaaaaaay too many beers in him for 12:30 in the afternoon.

    god bless america.

    I worked with his daughter at the Sixers who went on to be Jay Wrights assistant basically. I know they are very good friends with him. She hates the Phillies by the way, haha.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,710
    Astros already traded Gose for Wallace who was part of the Halladay trade.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,472
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    although I'm not a huge Oswalt fan have to say thanks to Ed Wade for his continuing moronic deadline deals. Phils didn't give up too much and got $11 million dollars in the deal - how is that possible? Definitely take Oswalt as our third starter. Braves got to be worrying now.


    ed wade loves giving away EVERYTHING at the trade deadline.

    god bless him.

    --i once saw him at a villanova game at the corestates center back in the day. i was about 15 feet away and gave him the ol' " HEY ED WADE---YOU SUCK!" he pretended to not notice. but i know it still haunts him to this very day.

    bear in mind this was a 25 year old jeagler with waaaaaaaay too many beers in him for 12:30 in the afternoon.

    god bless america.

    I worked with his daughter at the Sixers who went on to be Jay Wrights assistant basically. I know they are very good friends with him. She hates the Phillies by the way, haha.

    if i am not mistaken i think wade is a villanova alum too........also--that was a nova/syracuse game by the way. mcnamara's last game here so he bussed the entire city of scranton to town. :roll: it was pretty annoying.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,710

    if i am not mistaken i think wade is a villanova alum too........also--that was a nova/syracuse game by the way. mcnamara's last game here so he bussed the entire city of scranton to town. :roll: it was pretty annoying.

    Not sure, she went to Villanova, I know that for sure. Barely knew who Ed Wade was before I moved here to be honest.

    They ran busses to every game in Syracuse as well for 4 years.
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996

    if i am not mistaken i think wade is a villanova alum too........also--that was a nova/syracuse game by the way. mcnamara's last game here so he bussed the entire city of scranton to town. :roll: it was pretty annoying.

    Nah, Wade is a Penn guy.

    Used to see him at Penn Princeton back in the day sitting with the Gov and Montgomery.

    One game in February 2003, I was with my buddy who works for Rendell and he got tix next to them and I got to put an earlock on Montgomery for 2 hours and gave him hell for trading Schilling and Rolen away. It was awesome.

    Montgomery took it in good stride because I never cursed and never got too abusive and told me to send my resume to the office because they're always looking for fellow Penn slum down there, but I never did. It's one of the minor regrets I have.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,710
    Solat13 wrote:

    if i am not mistaken i think wade is a villanova alum too........also--that was a nova/syracuse game by the way. mcnamara's last game here so he bussed the entire city of scranton to town. :roll: it was pretty annoying.

    Nah, Wade is a Penn guy.

    Used to see him at Penn Princeton back in the day sitting with the Gov and Montgomery.

    One game in February 2003, I was with my buddy who works for Rendell and he got tix next to them and I got to put an earlock on Montgomery for 2 hours and gave him hell for trading Schilling and Rolen away. It was awesome.

    Montgomery took it in good stride because I never cursed and never got too abusive and told me to send my resume to the office because they're always looking for fellow Penn slum down there, but I never did. It's one of the minor regrets I have.

    People have to die at the Phillies for you to get a promotion. I know quite a few people down there. Good people. Eric Gregg's son, who is in PR at the Phillies used to send us pictures of him playing catch with Manuel during spring training while we were sitting at our desks at like 8 in the morning. Best job in the world.
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,953
    Wade went to Temple. Maybe he went to Penn for graduate.
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,953
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    although I'm not a huge Oswalt fan have to say thanks to Ed Wade for his continuing moronic deadline deals. Phils didn't give up too much and got $11 million dollars in the deal - how is that possible? Definitely take Oswalt as our third starter. Braves got to be worrying now.


    ed wade loves giving away EVERYTHING at the trade deadline.

    god bless him.

    --i once saw him at a villanova game at the corestates center back in the day. i was about 15 feet away and gave him the ol' " HEY ED WADE---YOU SUCK!" he pretended to not notice. but i know it still haunts him to this very day.

    bear in mind this was a 25 year old jeagler with waaaaaaaay too many beers in him for 12:30 in the afternoon.

    god bless america.

    I worked with his daughter at the Sixers who went on to be Jay Wrights assistant basically. I know they are very good friends with him. She hates the Phillies by the way, haha.

    I remember Wade telling the story of how he got fired with some reporter. He was changing light bulbs in his living room when the phone rang. To say he was bitter is an understatement. To think he thought he had a cush position here? Where did he get the balls to think so? I guess the way the team was being run up until then he could afford to think that way.

    Remember when he got into a fight with players in the Houston locker room? That's some funny shit right there.
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837

    Remember when he got into a fight with players in the Houston locker room? That's some funny shit right there.

    ha, forgot about that. it was shawn chacon. one of the guys I played with in high school played rookie ball for the rockies with chacon. said he was an idiot
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,710

    I remember Wade telling the story of how he got fired with some reporter. He was changing light bulbs in his living room when the phone rang. To say he was bitter is an understatement. To think he thought he had a cush position here? Where did he get the balls to think so? I guess the way the team was being run up until then he could afford to think that way.

    His daughter was just as bitter, we all went to a lot of Phillies games the year I moved down here and she would not step foot in the stadium with us.
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,953
    Cliffy6745 wrote:

    I remember Wade telling the story of how he got fired with some reporter. He was changing light bulbs in his living room when the phone rang. To say he was bitter is an understatement. To think he thought he had a cush position here? Where did he get the balls to think so? I guess the way the team was being run up until then he could afford to think that way.

    His daughter was just as bitter, we all went to a lot of Phillies games the year I moved down here and she would not step foot in the stadium with us.

    Ha. I guess she doesn't understand her dad isn't good at what he does.
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