Please no Sheets,Shields,Lilly. I'd be happy with Oswalt,Westbrook,Myers, Haren and i'm not even sure if he's on the block but Zach Duke.
would you like zack greinke too :roll: . hes if you want either oswalt, haren or greinke or duke your gonna have to give up brown. you aren't gonna get those guys on cheap. you can lilly or westbrook on the cheap very easily.
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Please no Sheets,Shields,Lilly. I'd be happy with Oswalt,Westbrook,Myers, Haren and i'm not even sure if he's on the block but Zach Duke.
would you like zack greinke too :roll: . hes if you want either oswalt, haren or greinke or duke your gonna have to give up brown. you aren't gonna get those guys on cheap. you can lilly or westbrook on the cheap very easily.
So Zach fucking Duke is worth the #1 prospect in baseball........oooooookay. If I hear Zach Duke's name brought up again in a positive light I'm revoking your baseball card and going to bleed from my eyes.
Please no Sheets,Shields,Lilly. I'd be happy with Oswalt,Westbrook,Myers, Haren and i'm not even sure if he's on the block but Zach Duke.
would you like zack greinke too :roll: . hes if you want either oswalt, haren or greinke or duke your gonna have to give up brown. you aren't gonna get those guys on cheap. you can lilly or westbrook on the cheap very easily.
So Zach fucking Duke is worth the #1 prospect in baseball........oooooookay. If I hear Zach Duke's name brought up again in a positive light I'm revoking your baseball card and going to bleed from my eyes.
well then you'll be pleased to know that he has never allowed a home run in 19 1/3 career innings in Philadelphia....
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Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
Please no Sheets,Shields,Lilly. I'd be happy with Oswalt,Westbrook,Myers, Haren and i'm not even sure if he's on the block but Zach Duke.
would you like zack greinke too :roll: . if you want either oswalt, haren or greinke or duke your gonna have to give up brown. you aren't gonna get those guys on cheap. you can lilly or westbrook on the cheap very easily.
So Zach fucking Duke is worth the #1 prospect in baseball........oooooookay. If I hear Zach Duke's name brought up again in a positive light I'm revoking your baseball card and going to bleed from my eyes.
hey don't blame me, blame jamminpearls for the zach duke mentioned. he's the same guy that want's soria or greinkie .
i didn't say he's worth the #1 prospect in baseball. want and worth are 2 totally different things. next time try reading a post before making quick judgements.
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would you like zack greinke too :roll: . hes if you want either oswalt, haren or greinke or duke your gonna have to give up brown. you aren't gonna get those guys on cheap. you can lilly or westbrook on the cheap very easily.
Maybe someone needs to see who they grouped Duke in with; remember, jokes aren't funny when they only make sense to you.
would you like zack greinke too :roll: . hes if you want either oswalt, haren or greinke or duke your gonna have to give up brown. you aren't gonna get those guys on cheap. you can lilly or westbrook on the cheap very easily.
Maybe someone needs to see who they grouped Duke in with; remember, jokes aren't funny when they only make sense to you.
zach duke on a good team would be much better then 3-8. seriously go put him on sox or rays and reds and i bet you he'd have a 8-3 record. i too would be 3-8 if i played infront of no one and still got paid nice money. i lumped duke into that group cause to me he's a #1 starter or 1a. anyone would love to have him on their team.
i'm surprised your buddies cliffy or the fixer haven't come to your defense :roll:
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Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
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would you like zack greinke too :roll: . hes if you want either oswalt, haren or greinke or duke your gonna have to give up brown. you aren't gonna get those guys on cheap. you can lilly or westbrook on the cheap very easily.
Maybe someone needs to see who they grouped Duke in with; remember, jokes aren't funny when they only make sense to you.
zach duke on a good team would be much better then 3-8. seriously go put him on sox or rays and reds and i bet you he'd have a 8-3 record. i too would be 3-8 if i played infront of no one and still got paid nice money.
I can't believe I'm having a conversation about Zack Duke. Go look at the dude's stats outside of his record. There's no defense for sucking at pitching. And the last time I checked, David Ortiz can't hit homeruns while his sucky ass pitcher sucks it up on the mound sucking more than anyone has sucked in the realm of suck.
would you like zack greinke too :roll: . hes if you want either oswalt, haren or greinke or duke your gonna have to give up brown. you aren't gonna get those guys on cheap. you can lilly or westbrook on the cheap very easily.
Maybe someone needs to see who they grouped Duke in with; remember, jokes aren't funny when they only make sense to you.
zach duke on a good team would be much better then 3-8. seriously go put him on sox or rays and reds and i bet you he'd have a 8-3 record. i too would be 3-8 if i played infront of no one and still got paid nice money.
um, no he wouldn't. you have to be able to get guys out in order to earn wins. duke would be good if he could get guys out...but he can't.
zach duke is horrible. now let's move on. we've wasted way too much time on him already. let's talk about oliver perez instead. what's he up to these days (besides stealing money)?
I can't believe I'm having a conversation about Zack Duke. Go look at the dude's stats outside of his record. There's no defense for sucking at pitching. And the last time I checked, David Ortiz can't hit homeruns while his sucky ass pitcher sucks it up on mound sucking more than anyone has sucked in the realm of suck.
I wouldn't give up D.Brown for anyone he's gonna be a stud. Secondly if they can swing a Werth and prospects 3 team trade and land Oswalt,i'd be very happy. I don't care what any of the 3 amigos say Zach Duke is a talented 27yr old pitcher. Has he pitched bad yeah but when u play for a shit team how can your moral be good. The pirates get there ass kicked year in and year out would u wanna be there? Put him on a winning team and i'd bet anyone he'd be a solid #3 pitcher especially on this team.
I can't believe I'm having a conversation about Zack Duke. Go look at the dude's stats outside of his record. There's no defense for sucking at pitching. And the last time I checked, David Ortiz can't hit homeruns while his sucky ass pitcher sucks it up on mound sucking more than anyone has sucked in the realm of suck.
look at the team he's playing on. its pure baseball hell.
And that has nothing to do with every walk and hit given up per inning, which borders near two an inning mind you. There's good pitchers on bad teams out there. And Duke is not one of them. Know why? Those pitchers still have good stats outside of wins and losses.
I wouldn't give up D.Brown for anyone he's gonna be a stud. Secondly if they can swing a Werth and prospects 3 team trade and land Oswalt,i'd be very happy. I don't care what any of the 3 amigos say Zach Duke is a talented 27yr old pitcher. Has he pitched bad yeah but when u play for a shit team how can your moral be good. The pirates get there ass kicked year in and year out would u wanna be there? Put him on a winning team and i'd bet anyone he'd be a solid #3 pitcher especially on this team.
ok, let's break this down. give me one reason that you think zach duke is good.
zack greinke is pretty good and he's on a team that's just as bad as the pirates. felix hernandez is good and the mariners suck. strasburg is good and the nats aren't good.
so the argument that someone can't have success on a bad team is pretty fucking weak. schilling on the phils back in the day is another one.
I can't believe I'm having a conversation about Zack Duke. Go look at the dude's stats outside of his record. There's no defense for sucking at pitching. And the last time I checked, David Ortiz can't hit homeruns while his sucky ass pitcher sucks it up on mound sucking more than anyone has sucked in the realm of suck.
look at the team he's playing on. its pure baseball hell.
And that has nothing to do with every walk and hit given up per inning, which borders near two an inning mind you. There's good pitchers on bad teams out there. And Duke is not one of them. Know why? Those pitchers still have good stats outside of wins and losses.
dude what motivation does he have pitching in baseball hell and still collecting a fat check. he could go 4-18 with a 4.50 era and people in baseball still won't care. no the pirates just suck period unlike other teams. i can't believe i'm even defending this wasted talent.
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dude what motivation does he have pitching in baseball hell and still collecting a fat check. he could go 4-18 with a 4.50 era and people in baseball still won't care. no the pirates just suck period unlike other teams. i can't believe i'm even defending this wasted talent.
I can't believe you are either. Like said above, what does Grienke, Oswalt, Haren, Strasburg have to play for?
dude what motivation does he have pitching in baseball hell and still collecting a fat check. he could go 4-18 with a 4.50 era and people in baseball still won't care. no the pirates just suck period unlike other teams. i can't believe i'm even defending this wasted talent.
I can't believe you are either. Like said above, what does Grienke, Oswalt, Haren, Strasburg have to play for?
ok the fact you lumped in stratsburg is as silly as me in lumping duke into the mix. what has stratsburg done in the majors. has he won a cy young yet or been anywhere good.
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I wouldn't give up D.Brown for anyone he's gonna be a stud. Secondly if they can swing a Werth and prospects 3 team trade and land Oswalt,i'd be very happy. I don't care what any of the 3 amigos say Zach Duke is a talented 27yr old pitcher. Has he pitched bad yeah but when u play for a shit team how can your moral be good. The pirates get there ass kicked year in and year out would u wanna be there? Put him on a winning team and i'd bet anyone he'd be a solid #3 pitcher especially on this team.
ok, let's break this down. give me one reason that you think zach duke is good.
zack greinke is pretty good and he's on a team that's just as bad as the pirates. felix hernandez is good and the mariners suck. strasburg is good and the nats aren't good.
so the argument that someone can't have success on a bad team is pretty fucking weak. schilling on the phils back in the day is another one.
I never put him in the category of any of them i said a solid #3 can u read??? He's still young enough and has had good to decent years in the past and he would come cheap enought to see what the kid can do when he's pitching with confidence. 11-16 with a 4.06 era and 213innings is a decent year for a kid who only knows what losing is. I forgot that if thefixer,cliffy and pam disagrees its wrong i didn't get the memo that you 3 are always right. Maybe next time PJ's in town u can hand deliever it to me,i'd love to meet and share a beer with such baseball royalty.
I forgot that if thefixer,cliffy and pam disagrees its wrong i didn't get the memo that you 3 are always right. Maybe next time PJ's in town u can hand deliever it to me,i'd love to meet and share a beer with such baseball royalty.
you can come talk bout the phils in the mets thread with us met fans. least we won't attack you all at once.
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ok the fact you lumped in stratsburg is as silly as me in lumping duke into the mix. what has stratsburg done in the majors. has he won a cy young yet or been anywhere good.
Nah, nah, nah. Let's not get off the subject who you are lumping Duke in with. Oh, and Strasburg has stuck out more batters in his amount of starts than ANY pitcher in the history of modern ball. Also the only pitcher to strike out 10+ and walk 1 or less in his first start. The only one. In the 110+ years of the modern game. The only one. And on an unrelated note, he's the only athlete EVER to rival Jordan in the sense of selling more of his own merchandise at a visitor's ballpark.
And jamminpearls, they're not looking for a 3. And if you wanna take a 3 from Pittsburgh, I'll take Maholm, Ohlendorf, and Karstens all before Duke. That's if I ever wanted anything from Pitt that's not a stud. Yeah, moving on...
Sounds like it is oswalt and werth will be involved. I am brilliant... Maybe
And where are you getting your info from, Jambi?
starks Twitter says they have been working hard for oswalt and mentioed werth
Hmm. I'm tellin ya, I've been feeling this trade for quite a bit now. This way they prepare for 2011 without looking like they're totally giving up on this season. I just hope this doesn't pressure Brown and regress him. They better not let him bat better than 6th all season. Right in the 7 hole, 6 at best.
Funny thing is all i wrote is i don't know if he's availbilty but i like zach duke. Stud #1 starter never came from me. And as long we don't give up Brown i dont care what minor leaguer we trade.
Funny thing is all i wrote is i don't know if he's availbilty but i like zach duke. Stud #1 starter never came from me. And as long we don't give up Brown i dont care what minor leaguer we trade.
That is the funny thing. Why you would bring up Zack Duke's name is beyond me.
Nah, nah, nah. Let's not get off the subject who you are lumping Duke in with. Oh, and Strasburg has stuck out more batters in his amount of starts than ANY pitcher in the history of modern ball. Also the only pitcher to strike out 10+ and walk 1 or less in his first start. The only one. In the 110+ years of the modern game. The only one. And on an unrelated note, he's the only athlete EVER to rival Jordan in the sense of selling more of his own merchandise at a visitor's ballpark.
And jamminpearls, they're not looking for a 3. And if you wanna take a 3 from Pittsburgh, I'll take Maholm, Ohlendorf, and Karstens all before Duke. That's if I ever wanted anything from Pitt that's not a stud. Yeah, moving on...
has he won a cy young yet, has he been to the all star game yet, has he won rookie of the year or even a world series. you can throw all these lame stats at me but his record and the fact is he hasn't done shit speaks more volume to me then anything. he needs to win something and he's not winning rookie of the year or the cy young this year.
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Funny thing is all i wrote is i don't know if he's availbilty but i like zach duke. Stud #1 starter never came from me. And as long we don't give up Brown i dont care what minor leaguer we trade.
I'd be hesitant to give up singleton, colvin, or cosart. The three of them will be top 100 prospects next year. Amaro will probably give up all 3.
I'm done with the Zach Duke stuff. I'm taking the high road
Olney says the phillies have not discussed haren, sheets or any of the rays pitchers as of earlier tonight. Looks like you guys are spending with the big boys now...welcome.
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So Zach fucking Duke is worth the #1 prospect in baseball........oooooookay. If I hear Zach Duke's name brought up again in a positive light I'm revoking your baseball card and going to bleed from my eyes.
well then you'll be pleased to know that he has never allowed a home run in 19 1/3 career innings in Philadelphia....
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Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
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Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
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SWEET! Then make it happen! Brown, Werth, Halladay, and Utley. Straight up. Make it happen.
i didn't say he's worth the #1 prospect in baseball. want and worth are 2 totally different things. next time try reading a post before making quick judgements.
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
Maybe someone needs to see who they grouped Duke in with; remember, jokes aren't funny when they only make sense to you.
i'm surprised your buddies cliffy or the fixer haven't come to your defense :roll:
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
I can't believe I'm having a conversation about Zack Duke. Go look at the dude's stats outside of his record. There's no defense for sucking at pitching. And the last time I checked, David Ortiz can't hit homeruns while his sucky ass pitcher sucks it up on the mound sucking more than anyone has sucked in the realm of suck.
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um, no he wouldn't. you have to be able to get guys out in order to earn wins. duke would be good if he could get guys out...but he can't.
zach duke is horrible. now let's move on. we've wasted way too much time on him already. let's talk about oliver perez instead. what's he up to these days (besides stealing money)?
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And that has nothing to do with every walk and hit given up per inning, which borders near two an inning mind you. There's good pitchers on bad teams out there. And Duke is not one of them. Know why? Those pitchers still have good stats outside of wins and losses.
ok, let's break this down. give me one reason that you think zach duke is good.
zack greinke is pretty good and he's on a team that's just as bad as the pirates. felix hernandez is good and the mariners suck. strasburg is good and the nats aren't good.
so the argument that someone can't have success on a bad team is pretty fucking weak. schilling on the phils back in the day is another one.
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I can't believe you are either. Like said above, what does Grienke, Oswalt, Haren, Strasburg have to play for?
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And where are you getting your info from, Jambi?
I never put him in the category of any of them i said a solid #3 can u read??? He's still young enough and has had good to decent years in the past and he would come cheap enought to see what the kid can do when he's pitching with confidence. 11-16 with a 4.06 era and 213innings is a decent year for a kid who only knows what losing is. I forgot that if thefixer,cliffy and pam disagrees its wrong i didn't get the memo that you 3 are always right. Maybe next time PJ's in town u can hand deliever it to me,i'd love to meet and share a beer with such baseball royalty.
you can come talk bout the phils in the mets thread with us met fans. least we won't attack you all at once.
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
Oswalt would be nice, but I'm bracing myself to see the package amaro gives up.
starks Twitter says they have been working hard for oswalt and mentioed werth
Nah, nah, nah. Let's not get off the subject who you are lumping Duke in with. Oh, and Strasburg has stuck out more batters in his amount of starts than ANY pitcher in the history of modern ball. Also the only pitcher to strike out 10+ and walk 1 or less in his first start. The only one. In the 110+ years of the modern game. The only one. And on an unrelated note, he's the only athlete EVER to rival Jordan in the sense of selling more of his own merchandise at a visitor's ballpark.
And jamminpearls, they're not looking for a 3. And if you wanna take a 3 from Pittsburgh, I'll take Maholm, Ohlendorf, and Karstens all before Duke. That's if I ever wanted anything from Pitt that's not a stud. Yeah, moving on...
Hmm. I'm tellin ya, I've been feeling this trade for quite a bit now. This way they prepare for 2011 without looking like they're totally giving up on this season. I just hope this doesn't pressure Brown and regress him. They better not let him bat better than 6th all season. Right in the 7 hole, 6 at best.
That is the funny thing. Why you would bring up Zack Duke's name is beyond me.
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I'd be hesitant to give up singleton, colvin, or cosart. The three of them will be top 100 prospects next year. Amaro will probably give up all 3.
I'm done with the Zach Duke stuff. I'm taking the high road