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    Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 10,520
    Drivers in Maryland are horrendous. I just get in the far right lane to pass everyone down there. :lol:
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    The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    edited February 2013
    Drivers in Maryland are horrendous. I just get in the far right lane to pass everyone down there. :lol:

    I went to school there...worked down there for last 2.5 years. It's like nascar down there compared to PA.

    They even know how to merge without coming to a complete stop. First time I ever saw a highway on ramp with a traffic light, I almost rear ended the shit out of the car in front of me. That's one of a billion things that I hate about pittsburgh. great addition to the blue route :roll:
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,324
    agree to disagree.

    accoring to allstate, dc has far and away the highest accident rate:
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/jimgorzelan ... vers-2012/

    1 Washington, DC: 112.1% greater-than-average accident frequency
    2 Baltimore, MD: 87.9%
    3 Providence, RI: 80.9%
    4 Hialeah, FL: 77.6%
    5 Glendale, CA: 77.5%
    6 Philadelphia, PA: 64.1%
    7 Alexandria, VA: 62.6%
    8 Newark, NJ: 59.4%
    9 Miami, FL: 58.4%
    10 San Francisco, CA: 54.6%
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,324
    Drivers in Maryland are horrendous. I just get in the far right lane to pass everyone down there. :lol:


    one thing they do have down there is better roads though.
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    The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    agree to disagree.

    accoring to allstate, dc has far and away the highest accident rate:
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/jimgorzelan ... vers-2012/

    1 Washington, DC: 112.1% greater-than-average accident frequency
    2 Baltimore, MD: 87.9%
    3 Providence, RI: 80.9%
    4 Hialeah, FL: 77.6%
    5 Glendale, CA: 77.5%
    6 Philadelphia, PA: 64.1%
    7 Alexandria, VA: 62.6%
    8 Newark, NJ: 59.4%
    9 Miami, FL: 58.4%
    10 San Francisco, CA: 54.6%

    this doesn't mean anything. PA drivers don't go fast enough to cause accidents. I swear they think the gas pedal is the one on the left.

    Also, driving in the city of DC is one of the worst experiences anyone can have. Just look at a map. I heard that intersections were designed so that it's difficult to get in/out of the city. They also have all kinds of speed cameras in Maryland/DC, which makes it annoying. Still better than the awfulness that is PA though
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,324
    The Fixer wrote:
    agree to disagree.

    accoring to allstate, dc has far and away the highest accident rate:
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/jimgorzelan ... vers-2012/

    1 Washington, DC: 112.1% greater-than-average accident frequency
    2 Baltimore, MD: 87.9%
    3 Providence, RI: 80.9%
    4 Hialeah, FL: 77.6%
    5 Glendale, CA: 77.5%
    6 Philadelphia, PA: 64.1%
    7 Alexandria, VA: 62.6%
    8 Newark, NJ: 59.4%
    9 Miami, FL: 58.4%
    10 San Francisco, CA: 54.6%

    this doesn't mean anything. PA drivers don't go fast enough to cause accidents. I swear they think the gas pedal is the one on the left.

    Also, driving in the city of DC is one of the worst experiences anyone can have. Just look at a map. I heard that intersections were designed so that it's difficult to get in/out of the city. They also have all kinds of speed cameras in Maryland/DC, which makes it annoying. Still better than the awfulness that is PA though

    the country's leading insurance company agrees with me....but yeah it doesn't mean anything. :lol:
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    The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Fixer wrote:
    agree to disagree.

    accoring to allstate, dc has far and away the highest accident rate:
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/jimgorzelan ... vers-2012/

    1 Washington, DC: 112.1% greater-than-average accident frequency
    2 Baltimore, MD: 87.9%
    3 Providence, RI: 80.9%
    4 Hialeah, FL: 77.6%
    5 Glendale, CA: 77.5%
    6 Philadelphia, PA: 64.1%
    7 Alexandria, VA: 62.6%
    8 Newark, NJ: 59.4%
    9 Miami, FL: 58.4%
    10 San Francisco, CA: 54.6%

    this doesn't mean anything. PA drivers don't go fast enough to cause accidents. I swear they think the gas pedal is the one on the left.

    Also, driving in the city of DC is one of the worst experiences anyone can have. Just look at a map. I heard that intersections were designed so that it's difficult to get in/out of the city. They also have all kinds of speed cameras in Maryland/DC, which makes it annoying. Still better than the awfulness that is PA though

    the country's leading insurance company agrees with me....but yeah it doesn't mean anything. :lol:

    accident rates doesn't equal bad drivers. being slow, stupid, and overly cautious isn't always measured by accident rates

    keep right, pass left aint a difficult concept. excpet for PA drivers

    I ask my wife all the time if people in PA have to take drivers ed in high school. I don't believe that they do.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,324
    well according to the all state insurance company, accident rates do equal bad drivers. so i will side with them on this. :lol:

    lots of bad drivers here too. no doubt. i just remember being shocked at how much worse it was down there. it probably has a lot to do with so many people being relatively new to the area and stuff.
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    The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    well according to the all state insurance company, accident rates do equal bad drivers. so i will side with them on this. :lol:

    lots of bad drivers here too. no doubt. i just remember being shocked at how much worse it was down there. it probably has a lot to do with so many people being relatively new to the area and stuff.

    I'm in the car all the time for my job. There are no drivers worse than PA. I don't care what anyone says.

    Also, of course there are going to be higher accident rates in a city than there are in a state. but don't let common sense get in your way
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,324
    edited February 2013
    The Fixer wrote:
    well according to the all state insurance company, accident rates do equal bad drivers. so i will side with them on this. :lol:

    lots of bad drivers here too. no doubt. i just remember being shocked at how much worse it was down there. it probably has a lot to do with so many people being relatively new to the area and stuff.

    I'm in the car all the time for my job. There are no drivers worse than PA. I don't care what anyone says.

    Also, of course there are going to be higher accident rates in a city than there are in a state. but don't let common sense get in your way


    common sense would be actual proof supplied by the country's 2nd biggest car insurance company...which, of course, you disagreed with. :lol:

    didn't see any state by state comparisons anyway.
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    It's always something :lol:
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,324
    :lol: for what it's worth, this was based on a survey of driver knowledge or something (yes i am bored at work on a saturday--haha):

    http://www.dailyfinance.com/2010/05/27/ ... -by-state/
    Worst drivers in America by state

    1. (WORST) New York - 70.0
    2. New Jersey - 70.5
    3. Dist. of Columbia - 71.9
    4. California - 73.3
    5. Rhode Island - 73.8
    6. Louisiana - 74.1
    7. West Virginia - 74.8
    8. Hawaii - 74.8
    9. New Hampshire - 74.9
    10. Kentucky - 74.9
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    :lol: for what it's worth, this was based on a survey of driver knowledge or something (yes i am bored at work on a saturday--haha):

    http://www.dailyfinance.com/2010/05/27/ ... -by-state/
    Worst drivers in America by state

    1. (WORST) New York - 70.0
    2. New Jersey - 70.5
    3. Dist. of Columbia - 71.9
    4. California - 73.3
    5. Rhode Island - 73.8
    6. Louisiana - 74.1
    7. West Virginia - 74.8
    8. Hawaii - 74.8
    9. New Hampshire - 74.9
    10. Kentucky - 74.9
    Facts? Were talking about facts? Not the fixer, not the fixer,facts we talkn about facts.
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    The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    You guys are using arbitrary internet lists to support an argument. certainly not surprising :roll: . You can base any list of off random variables and come up with a slant. Like basing a sports power ranking on two statistical categories (like nfl yardage totals, RBI, or pitcher wins). Aka, an exercise in futility (like having intelligent discussion here).

    Like I said, I have been in outside sales most of my career. Spent tons of time in the car (I don't know how anyone can sit in a cubed cage, chained to a desk all day...I'd rather take a bath in barbed wire) and PA has by far the worst drivers of the states I've spent time in (PA, NJ, DE, MD, NY, WV, KY, FL, VA, NC, CA, MI).

    Just think about this every time you get in the LH lane and are slowed by a PA driver going 60 mph...or you get behind someone who doesn't turn right at a red light...or someone who puts their blinker on and slows to a crawl in order to merge. Happens all the fucking time. Should be legal to run them off the road....the worst.
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    The Fixer wrote:
    You guys are using arbitrary internet lists to support an argument. certainly not surprising :roll: . You can base any list of off random variables and come up with a slant. Like basing a sports power ranking on two statistical categories (like nfl yardage totals, RBI, or pitcher wins). Aka, an exercise in futility (like having intelligent discussion here).

    Like I said, I have been in outside sales most of my career. Spent tons of time in the car (I don't know how anyone can sit in a cubed cage, chained to a desk all day...I'd rather take a bath in barbed wire) and PA has by far the worst drivers of the states I've spent time in (PA, NJ, DE, MD, NY, WV, KY, FL, VA, NC, CA, MI).

    Just think about this every time you get in the LH lane and are slowed by a PA driver going 60 mph...or you get behind someone who doesn't turn right at a red light...or someone who puts their blinker on and slows to a crawl in order to merge. Happens all the fucking time. Should be legal to run them off the road....the worst.

    So YOUR personal experience is correct and the thousands of others is incorrect??? Your the guy who would argue the sky is pink when everyone else says it's blue. And the back hand insults at the Juggler are getting old.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,324
    The Fixer wrote:
    You guys are using arbitrary internet lists to support an argument. certainly not surprising :roll: . You can base any list of off random variables and come up with a slant. Like basing a sports power ranking on two statistical categories (like nfl yardage totals, RBI, or pitcher wins). Aka, an exercise in futility (like having intelligent discussion here).

    Like I said, I have been in outside sales most of my career. Spent tons of time in the car (I don't know how anyone can sit in a cubed cage, chained to a desk all day...I'd rather take a bath in barbed wire) and PA has by far the worst drivers of the states I've spent time in (PA, NJ, DE, MD, NY, WV, KY, FL, VA, NC, CA, MI).

    Just think about this every time you get in the LH lane and are slowed by a PA driver going 60 mph...or you get behind someone who doesn't turn right at a red light...or someone who puts their blinker on and slows to a crawl in order to merge. Happens all the fucking time. Should be legal to run them off the road....the worst.

    So YOUR personal experience is correct and the thousands of others is incorrect??? Your the guy who would argue the sky is pink when everyone else says it's blue. And the back hand insults at the Juggler are getting old.

    :lol:

    leave it to this guy to get all worked over something as trivial as arguing what states have the worst drivers. it's as predictable as the sun rising every morning. quite amusing too.


    and no worries about the insults. if he knew what i make, i'm sure he'd cube it up too...despite how awesome it sounds to be driving around in traffic all day, constantly being pissed at every other driver on the road
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    The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    I have plenty of friends who are or have been in the mortgage industry. I'd rather be a garbage man

    how much do you make?

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    SeaSea Earth Posts: 2,936
    Topic integrity derailed. Thread closed.
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