***The Official Philadelphia Phillies 2012 Thread***

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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    pjhawks wrote:
    What has he done besides trading for a backup C, signing Chan Ho Park and Ibanez, and negotiating with arbitration eligible players. Trading Golson for Newberry isn't a big move and everyone knew they were going to resign Moyer.


    Signing Hamels to a 3-year deal was huge. Remember how unhappy Hamels was last year when he only got $500K? Locking him up for 3 years is a great deal by Amaro.

    oh and watched again on Comcast the perfect season Phils dvd and still gives me chills to see the final out and pictures from the parade.

    It's a good move from the Phillies point of view as they keep him for under market value through his arbitration years. But he was under team control those three years and wasn't going anywhere. I'll be more impressed that in 2 seasons he can somehow sign him to a long term deal before he hits the free agency market. But I doubt the Phils will offer him C.C. money in three years.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,495
    pjhawks wrote:
    What has he done besides trading for a backup C, signing Chan Ho Park and Ibanez, and negotiating with arbitration eligible players. Trading Golson for Newberry isn't a big move and everyone knew they were going to resign Moyer.

    oh and watched again on Comcast the perfect season Phils dvd and still gives me chills to see the final out and pictures from the parade.

    i could watch that every day. every fucking day. got so fired up watching the world series dvd on saturday night. good times
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  • jamminpearlsjamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    I don't like the signing of Ibanez. You get an older LF with range problems who is an additional lefty bat in lefty heavy lineup. Other than that he hasn't done much.[/quote]

    He hasn't done much? Well, whatever....I'm tellin ya, Ibanez is a better player than Burrell and LF in The Bank isn't that hard to play.[/quote]

    What has he done besides trading for a backup C, signing Chan Ho Park and Ibanez, and negotiating with arbitration eligible players. Trading Golson for Newberry isn't a big move and everyone knew they were going to resign Moyer.

    He's not done any signature move yet except the Ibanez signing and I think he's a good player but not the best fit for the lineup. You're going into a season where your best righty bat is Werth and that's a little risky if you ask me. And now you have lineup issues. Do you bat lefties 3,4,5 or do you stick Werth there at 5 as protection for Howard which case Howard will see very little to hit.[/quote]


    i think this offseason has been a huge success so far. Besides pat the bat u have keep in tact the core of a world championship team. They made there Ace really happy which to me will make Cole even better. I like there staff again and the bullpen is the same besides JC being gone for 50 games. And when either haap kendrick park or caarasco wins the 5th spot all but carrasco would go into the pen which will help out alot with JC gone. So i think this team is primed for another magicial run again barring key injuries.
    Go Birds!!!!
  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    There is no way in hell I would put Carrassco in the pen to start the season. As a late season call up maybe but why stunt his development by having him sit around in the bullpen instead of pitching every 5 days in the minors..
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,288
    More than anything, I'm just excited about my Sunday package. Plus going up to New Yankee Stadium and Citi Field.
  • jamminpearlsjamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    chromiam wrote:
    There is no way in hell I would put Carrassco in the pen to start the season. As a late season call up maybe but why stunt his development by having him sit around in the bullpen instead of pitching every 5 days in the minors..
    I said ALL BUT CARRASCO would go into the pen
    Go Birds!!!!
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,495
    More than anything, I'm just excited about my Sunday package. Plus going up to New Yankee Stadium and Citi Field.

    the sunday plan is the way to go. i had it for the last season of the vet. good times.
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,288
    More than anything, I'm just excited about my Sunday package. Plus going up to New Yankee Stadium and Citi Field.

    the sunday plan is the way to go. i had it for the last season of the vet. good times.

    Yeah, man...good times are going to be consistently had every Sunday morning/afternoon/night. Read: tailgate, ballgame, strip club.
  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    chromiam wrote:
    There is no way in hell I would put Carrassco in the pen to start the season. As a late season call up maybe but why stunt his development by having him sit around in the bullpen instead of pitching every 5 days in the minors..
    I said ALL BUT CARRASCO would go into the pen

    yeah I missed that... sorry it was before lunch and I was hungry ;)
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  • jamminpearlsjamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    chromiam wrote:
    chromiam wrote:
    There is no way in hell I would put Carrassco in the pen to start the season. As a late season call up maybe but why stunt his development by having him sit around in the bullpen instead of pitching every 5 days in the minors..
    I said ALL BUT CARRASCO would go into the pen

    yeah I missed that... sorry it was before lunch and I was hungry ;)
    competely understand lunch is good :mrgreen:
    Go Birds!!!!
  • petrocspetrocs Posts: 4,342
    almost time! almost time for pitchers and catchers! woohoo!
    Shows:
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    10/3/05 Philly. 5/27-28/06 Camden. 6/23/06 Pitt. 6/19-20/08 Camden. 6/24/08 MSG. 8/7/08 EV Newark, NJ. 6/11-12/09 EV Philly, PA. 10/27-28-30-31/09 Philly, PA., 5/15/10 Hartford,5/17/10 Boston, 5/18/10 Newark, 5/20-21/10 MSG
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,288
    petrocs wrote:
    almost time! almost time for pitchers and catchers! woohoo!

    Almost time for me to be in Clearwater....t-minus 45 days.....St. Patty's day in the sun watching a ballgame, hanging out at the tiki bar and watching some tail....ohhh yes.
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,288
    Check it out....

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3864246

    If anybody needs me, I'll be partying with the World Series trophy at Wing Bowl Friday morning.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,495
    go phils!
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,495
    where are you people at?!?!!?
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  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    where are you people at?!?!!?

    Wing Bowl !!!! :D
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,495
    chromiam wrote:
    where are you people at?!?!!?

    Wing Bowl !!!! :D

    oh yes. who won? should be over by now right?
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  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    chromiam wrote:
    where are you people at?!?!!?

    Wing Bowl !!!! :D

    oh yes. who won? should be over by now right?

    no idea.. I'm at work now and not listening to WIP at the moment.
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  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    Super Squibb won... if you really care.
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  • petrocspetrocs Posts: 4,342
    Dave Montgomery on DNL last night said that Ryan Howard would be a Phillie for the next 3 years..he didnt say and beyond...eek
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    9/24/96 MD. 9/28/96 Randalls. 8/28-29/98 Camden. 9/8/98 NJ. 9/18/98 MD. 9/1-2/00 Camden. 9/4/00 MD. 4/28/03 Philly. 7/5-6/03 Camden. 9/30/05 AC.
    10/3/05 Philly. 5/27-28/06 Camden. 6/23/06 Pitt. 6/19-20/08 Camden. 6/24/08 MSG. 8/7/08 EV Newark, NJ. 6/11-12/09 EV Philly, PA. 10/27-28-30-31/09 Philly, PA., 5/15/10 Hartford,5/17/10 Boston, 5/18/10 Newark, 5/20-21/10 MSG
  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    petrocs wrote:
    Dave Montgomery on DNL last night said that Ryan Howard would be a Phillie for the next 3 years..he didnt say and beyond...eek

    no surprise.. and I have no problem with that at all.
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  • petrocspetrocs Posts: 4,342
    chromiam wrote:
    petrocs wrote:
    Dave Montgomery on DNL last night said that Ryan Howard would be a Phillie for the next 3 years..he didnt say and beyond...eek

    no surprise.. and I have no problem with that at all.

    if he hits 50 hrs and 150 rbis average over the next 3 years and they dont sign him I will
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    10/3/05 Philly. 5/27-28/06 Camden. 6/23/06 Pitt. 6/19-20/08 Camden. 6/24/08 MSG. 8/7/08 EV Newark, NJ. 6/11-12/09 EV Philly, PA. 10/27-28-30-31/09 Philly, PA., 5/15/10 Hartford,5/17/10 Boston, 5/18/10 Newark, 5/20-21/10 MSG
  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    petrocs wrote:
    chromiam wrote:
    petrocs wrote:
    Dave Montgomery on DNL last night said that Ryan Howard would be a Phillie for the next 3 years..he didnt say and beyond...eek

    no surprise.. and I have no problem with that at all.

    if he hits 50 hrs and 150 rbis average over the next 3 years and they dont sign him I will

    Well since Howard will be a FA after the 3 years, I'm not going to try to read into Monty's comments. He's stating fact: Howard will be a Phillie for the next 3 years guaranteed... unless the Phils trade him.

    We'll see what his numbers are over the next 3 years... as stated many times in these threads, his numbers have slipped (BA, OBS) while strikeouts have gone up.
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  • petrocspetrocs Posts: 4,342
    Funny...Manny keeps turning down offer after offer...glad we didnt go after that head case
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    10/3/05 Philly. 5/27-28/06 Camden. 6/23/06 Pitt. 6/19-20/08 Camden. 6/24/08 MSG. 8/7/08 EV Newark, NJ. 6/11-12/09 EV Philly, PA. 10/27-28-30-31/09 Philly, PA., 5/15/10 Hartford,5/17/10 Boston, 5/18/10 Newark, 5/20-21/10 MSG
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    petrocs wrote:
    Dave Montgomery on DNL last night said that Ryan Howard would be a Phillie for the next 3 years..he didnt say and beyond...eek

    I find that interesting since Howard is a free agent in 2 seasons. He has this year and then next year is his last year of arbitration and then he becomes a free agent after the 2010 season. To keep him for three years, the Phils would probably have to make a 3 year 54-60 mil dollar deal with him.
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    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,495
    Solat13 wrote:
    petrocs wrote:
    Dave Montgomery on DNL last night said that Ryan Howard would be a Phillie for the next 3 years..he didnt say and beyond...eek

    I find that interesting since Howard is a free agent in 2 seasons. He has this year and then next year is his last year of arbitration and then he becomes a free agent after the 2010 season. To keep him for three years, the Phils would probably have to make a 3 year 54-60 mil dollar deal with him.

    he probably just misspoke
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  • howard agrees to a 3 yr 54 million dollar contract SWEET!!!!!!
    Go Birds!!!!
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,495
    howard agrees to a 3 yr 54 million dollar contract SWEET!!!!!!

    this is great news!

    lets go become baseball's next dynasty gentlemen!
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,681
    great to see the big guy signed. They've even mentioned Ryan has been in in Florida working on defense. Hopefully practicing that throw from 1st to 2nd. Amaro did a great job getting everyone signed before camp.
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