Boston Red Sox

Drop The Leash 10

Beckett
Lester
Matsuzaka
Lackey
Wakefield

wow.

jimed14

Solat13 wrote:

Jimed, here's a little off the wall idea for LF. Instead of giving big money for Holliday or Bay for 5 years or so, would you be happy with the unconventional signing of Vlad for LF. He has little range left, but LF is so small at home and with his gun he should cut down on the number of wall ball doubles. Plus you have Ellsbury patrolling Center who even with Bay and Manny always made plays by the wall in left center covering for them.

Plus you have Hermedia to spot him and he can DH if Papi slumps again. Even in his decline the last three years he's hitting .316 against righties.

I don't think he'll demand more than a 2 year deal for 8 mil per year.

Well, half of the Sox games are on the road ... where Vlad would have to cover a full LF. And wow, he was moving like a really old man last year around the basepaths, note, the Angels didn't play him in the field too much.

Seeing as the Sox appear to be trying to concentrate on pitching and defense, this doesn't make a lot of sense.

Solat13

jimed14 wrote:

Solat13 wrote:

Jimed, here's a little off the wall idea for LF. Instead of giving big money for Holliday or Bay for 5 years or so, would you be happy with the unconventional signing of Vlad for LF. He has little range left, but LF is so small at home and with his gun he should cut down on the number of wall ball doubles. Plus you have Ellsbury patrolling Center who even with Bay and Manny always made plays by the wall in left center covering for them.

Plus you have Hermedia to spot him and he can DH if Papi slumps again. Even in his decline the last three years he's hitting .316 against righties.

I don't think he'll demand more than a 2 year deal for 8 mil per year.

Well, half of the Sox games are on the road ... where Vlad would have to cover a full LF. And wow, he was moving like a really old man last year around the basepaths, note, the Angels didn't play him in the field too much.

Seeing as the Sox appear to be trying to concentrate on pitching and defense, this doesn't make a lot of sense.

True, I just always liked Vlad and always wanted to see what he would do at Fenway in a full season. Plus you figure Papi is gone after this year and he could be a bridge until the Phils go after Howard in 2 years when he leaves the Phillies.

jimed14

Solat13 wrote:

True, I just always liked Vlad and always wanted to see what he would do at Fenway in a full season. Plus you figure Papi is gone after this year and he could be a bridge until the Phils go after Howard in 2 years when he leaves the Phillies.

Howard, man, you're playing some serious fantasy baseball now!

I LOVE watching Vlad, have so since he was an Expo. I have the baseball package and I like watching Angels games (Steve Physioc and Rex Hudler are a great announcing crew, although FoxSports just fired them both).

Vlad is the best bad ball hitter I think I've ever seen, he's crazy.

I'd love him at DH if Papi wasn't around. I just don't want to see him in LF, as I may be tempted to throw a walker down from the Monster seats.

Wobbie

jimed14 wrote:

Vlad is the best bad ball hitter I think I've ever seen, he's crazy.

The Panda ain't bad, either. :thumbup:

jimed14

imalive wrote:

jimed14 wrote:

Vlad is the best bad ball hitter I think I've ever seen, he's crazy.

The Panda ain't bad, either. :thumbup:

I've only been watching him for a year or so, but yeah, he's got potantial (he's not at Vlad level yet though) ... best nickname to come out of baseball in a long time.

Cliffy6745

5 Years 85 Mil

jimed14

Cliffy6745 wrote:

5 Years 85 Mil

Cliffy6745

jimed14 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

5 Years 85 Mil

Yeah man, I thought Theo was hell bent against not giving pitchers 5 years.

The Red Sox assholeness has decliend a bit in recent years with the loss of Manny but this gets it right back up there.

Drop The Leash 10

jimed14 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

5 Years 85 Mil

sorry, but i like this move. i think he will really thrive this season.

jimed14

Do I like Lackey? Hell yeah.

Do I like Lackey for 5 years? No.

Thus my consternation ... (perfectly depicted by Carl from Aqua Teen Hungerforce, one of the best shows on TV).

Cliffy, I'm not really sure how this is "assholness" ... it's a big ticket signing. Does that make the Yankees full of super mega assholness? Wait, don't answer that.

Cliffy6745

jimed14 wrote:

Cliffy, I'm not really sure how this is "assholness" ... it's a big ticket signing. Does that make the Yankees full of super mega assholness? Wait, don't answer that.

Haha, no. I am a Yankees fan so I love big ticket signings. Lackey is just the consummate asshole in my opinion. From showing teammates up when they fuck up to calling out Scoscia in the playoffs. It is going to be fun to root against him in the AL East.

Edit: He is a good picther though, not worth a 5 year contract but definitely gives the Red Sox a very good rotation.

Gary Carter

jimed14 wrote:

Do I like Lackey? Hell yeah.

Do I like Lackey for 5 years? No.

+1

he'll fit in good with the sawx. he's a great # 3, but not for the money he got.

jimed14

Damn, just heard the Sox made an offer to Aroldis Chapman ... the 21 year Cuban defector who has a ridiculous fastball, but is still untamed and really young. Lit up the World Baseball Classic (for the 15 of us that actually watched it last year).

Note, I expect the Yankees to outbid the Sox on him any second now.

jervin007

Sox are close to signing mike Cameron to a 2 year 15.5 million dollar deal. Not bad and it kind of screws Boras with the Sox not pursuing Holliday. Cameron is aging, but great defensively! With Lackey signed I think they will make a run at Adrian Gonzalez by using Bucholtz as trade bait. Hopefully take the money saved in OF and resign Beckett.

Chapman would be an interesting signing, but I would be surprised if he ends up with Sox.

Also, it will be a mistake to sign Beltre. Represented by Boras, costly and for too many years. He is a child of the steroid era. Great defensively, but not worth it.

xavier mcdaniel

If they do sign him, hopefully he'll remember his cup... http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/m ... _be_l.html

Cliffy6745

5 years $87.5 Mil. Damn, 17.5 Mil a year for 5 years to a guy who hasn't pitched 200 innings in a couple years. Theo turned into Cashman on this one, overpaid for what he wanted.

jimed14

Cliffy6745 wrote:

5 years $87.5 Mil. Damn, 17.5 Mil a year for 5 years to a guy who hasn't pitched 200 innings in a couple years. Theo turned into Cashman on this one, overpaid for what he wanted.

yeah, certainly overreached on this one.

I expect the contruction of the second deck on the monster seats to start soon.

Brain of mJ

I was against the Lackey deal for a while, until I talked with a co-worker who played in college. He brought up a good point that Lackey will be going up against #3 pitchers all the time and would eat them alive. He's not a warhorse you can saddle the #1 spot to, but still is a great pitcher if he doesn't have to carry the load.

rearviewmiror

He will be perfect in the playoffs. The Sox will always be in the gane no matter what, no holding our breath after the 1st 2 starts. Although this year it wouldn;t have mattered. Plus with that rotation, barring injuries the playoffs should be a near lock.