Great but gimme more pitching and with good health I hope to be @ opening ay Spring Training In Fort Myers
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got to admit, I quickly looked at the pic of the dude throwing, wearing a Jays jersey ... was hoping you were going to tell me the Sox got Halladay ...
DAMN YOU.
They were talking about moving Pedroia over to SS, so ... looks like he'll stay at 2B
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"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
ok, sincerely, the kid had his moments, he does K a good amount of guys, but he also missed all of 2009.
I see him as a Sox type pitcher gamble (high K's, good K/BB), but, he's not the answer. Hell, I don't even know if he's healthy.
Now, on to this Mike Lowell for Max Ramirez potential trade.
Ok, so we get a very good catching prospect, good bat ... needs help on the defense, but, Tek can be his mentor (seeing as he'll have more time with V Mart starting) .... but, do we REALLY need to pay 9 of the 12M due to Lowell next year?
FUCK, I hate these deals where we end up paying for soemone to play somewhere else. Especially, like in the case of Renteria, they have a great season.
I'll miss Lowell, but it's obvious he cannot play 3rd without being a defensive liability ... and the Sox have the DH spot filled. I'm just glad the Lowell for Milton Bradley rumors aren't going to happen, man, I want no part of that asshole.
Overall, feels like we're losing gorund to the Yanks ... (and the rest of the AL) ... Sox seem to think that the kids they got in the minors are too good to be traded, so, we'll have to wait and see about that. Guess we may have a few years of hoping for 90-95 wins and a wild card.
"You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
Plus, it's 12/10. We're a long way from Spring Training. Plus the Yankees will always outspend us. We're hoping that the development machine and Theo's smarts make up the difference. When you're not the one spending 200 million your solutions look a little less sexy.
Plus, it's 12/10. We're a long way from Spring Training. Plus the Yankees will always outspend us. We're hoping that the development machine and Theo's smarts make up the difference. When you're not the one spending 200 million your solutions look a little less sexy.
Plus, it's 12/10. We're a long way from Spring Training. Plus the Yankees will always outspend us. We're hoping that the development machine and Theo's smarts make up the difference. When you're not the one spending 200 million your solutions look a little less sexy.
Just wnat to point out my comments are not a "THE SKY IS FALLING" panic .... just an observation.
It's not about the Yanks outspendng the Sox ... I think the Yanks are a lot smarter with their spending these days*.
And Theo's thrown a few clunkers out there as well. Do I trust him/them yeah, but, it's not a 100% hit rate .... just got the feeling they'll have a tough time winning the AL East as currently constructed and with the direction they are heading.
* I still think CC will miss at least a season's worth of games before his contract is up.
"You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
Plus, it's 12/10. We're a long way from Spring Training. Plus the Yankees will always outspend us. We're hoping that the development machine and Theo's smarts make up the difference. When you're not the one spending 200 million your solutions look a little less sexy.
you're right... 123 million is an ugly duckling.
Ahh numbers you have to love them. The Yankees were far and away out of touch. The Red Sox were 4th in salary in 2009 and very close to the rest of the pack.
The Red Sox spent 80 million more than only one team. The Yankees outspent the Red Sox by 80 million. The Red Sox are no paupers, but please do not categorize them as the same. Similar maybe, but the Yankees are the Babe Ruth of spenders.
Plus, it's 12/10. We're a long way from Spring Training. Plus the Yankees will always outspend us. We're hoping that the development machine and Theo's smarts make up the difference. When you're not the one spending 200 million your solutions look a little less sexy.
you're right... 123 million is an ugly duckling.
Ahh numbers you have to love them. The Yankees were far and away out of touch. The Red Sox were 4th in salary in 2009 and very close to the rest of the pack.
The Red Sox spent 80 million more than only one team. The Yankees outspent the Red Sox by 80 million. The Red Sox are no paupers, but please do not categorize them as the same. Similar maybe, but the Yankees are the Babe Ruth of spenders.
Let's take a step back.
The Yankees didn't knock the Sox out of the playoffs last year, the Angels did, and they spent a little less than the Sox.
2 years ago it was the Rays that knocked the Sox out, and they spent significantly less.
I wish Sox fans would stop throwing up the salary chart. Do the Yankees benefit? Yeah, they do, a lot ... but, it just sounds so silly for Sox fans to be the ones pointing it out.
"You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
The Yankees didn't knock the Sox out of the playoffs last year, the Angels did, and they spent a little less than the Sox.
2 years ago it was the Rays that knocked the Sox out, and they spent significantly less.
I wish Sox fans would stop throwing up the salary chart. Do the Yankees benefit? Yeah, they do, a lot ... but, it just sounds so silly for Sox fans to be the ones pointing it out.
I agree with you, but actually the Red Sox were 6th in payroll last year. The last link didn't take into account dead money on payroll (i.e. the Phillies paying Eaton 9 million and Jenkins 7 million to not show up)
The chart also shows payroll obligations as of the end of last season for the next 4 years.
It's kinda funny because of all the long term contracts they have signed the last few seasons that for of all the contracts that exist for the 2013 season, the Yanks are responsible for over 25% of the total salary commitments for all of baseball.
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I'm not a Sox hater - at all - but once again I'm struck by how the big $$ teams can eat their mistakes and the small $$ clubs are stuck. Makes being a GM a LOT harder.
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Jason Bay rejects Sox offer of 4 year 60 million he's seeking a 5 year deal. Mets offering 4 year 65 million with Angels and the Mariners showing interest.
So where do the Sox go from here, I don't he's worth 15 million a year but what do I know and who can replaced @ what price???
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Jason Bay rejects Sox offer of 4 year 60 million he's seeking a 5 year deal. Mets offering 4 year 65 million with Angels and the Mariners showing interest.
So where do the Sox go from here, I don't he's worth 15 million a year but what do I know and who can replaced @ what price???
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Sure I don't think so either, but if they want a productive hitter then they have to pay. It's either going to Bay or Holliday, OR we are going to have to trade the farm to get someone in those guys class.
I respect the Sox choice to place a value on a guy and then stick to their guns, I just don't see us competing with the Yankees without two more bats and a couple more arms. Anyway you cut it we are going to have to pay to keep up with the Yanks. $ or A prospects. :x
They HAVE to put a cap on these salaries!!! :roll: It's just ridiculous the amounts of money these players are getting paid!!! :wtf: :shock: :wtf:
Did you know that major league players are given road meal money of a daily allowance of $106. What i don't know is....... is that per game which equals $8,586 or per day?? If it's per day it could be near $15,000 this is outside of their salary.
Amazing huh :shock:
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They HAVE to put a cap on these salaries!!! :roll: It's just ridiculous the amounts of money these players are getting paid!!! :wtf: :shock: :wtf:
Did you know that major league players are given road meal money of a daily allowance of $106. What i don't know is....... is that per game which equals $8,586 or per day?? If it's per day it could be near $15,000 this is outside of their salary.
Amazing huh :shock:
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It it Amazing!!!
It's funny how baseball and I'm sure other sports have changed so much over the years. Athletes had to work on the off season. Some of the athletes these days in some cases, have to take dangerous drugs to enhance their playing performance, just to try and break the records of those earlier years in the sport...
Free-agent right-hander John Lackey underwent a physical Monday with the Red Sox, an indication that he is close to an agreement with the team, according to a major-league source.
The deal is expected to be similar to the five-year, $82.5 million contract that the Yankees awarded free-agent right-hander A.J. Burnett last winter.
The Red Sox generally do not like to award five-year contracts, which is one of the sticking points in their negotiations with free-agent left fielder Jason Bay. It is not known whether they would guarantee Lackey five years, or award him a three- or four-year deal with options.
The signing of Lackey would represent the Red Sox's second major move of the offseason; the team earlier signed free-agent shortstop Marco Scutaro to a two-year, $12 million contract.
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"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
The Sox still need to address left field and their corner-infield positions. A major investment in Lackey would indicate that they might not spend heavily on Matt Holliday to replace Bay, perhaps going with a platoon of Mike Cameron and Jeremy Hermida in left.
They also could sign free agent Adrian Beltre to play third if they complete a trade of Mike Lowell to the Rangers, or sign first baseman Nick Johnson and move first baseman Kevin Youkilis to third.
Bay's agent, Joe Urbon, said Saturday that his client was prepared to "move on" due to a difference of opinion with the Red Sox on what he should be command as a free agent.
The Sox's move on Lackey appears to be an aggressive response to Bay's position — and their signing of him would be a devastating blow to the Angels, who earlier this offseason lost free-agent third baseman Chone Figgins to the Mariners.
The Angels and Phillies are the front-runners in trade discussions for Blue Jays right-hander Roy Halladay, according to major-league sources. Another possibility for the Angels would be a trade for Braves right-hander Derek Lowe.
Lackey, 31, is considered the top starting pitcher on the free-agent market. He was 102-71 with a 3.81 career ERA in eight seasons with the Angels, and 3-4 with a 3.12 ERA in the postseason.
The Red Sox, in addition to Lackey, are trying to sign right-hander Josh Beckett to a contract extension. Beckett, 29, is entering the final year of his contract. His career numbers are slightly better than Lackey's, and he would command at least a comparable deal.
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"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
Beckett, Lester, Lackey with 2 of Dice K, Wakefield and Buchholz is a solid rotation.
Do you guys like this?
I am not a huge fan of Lackey and think he is a bit overrated but he is definitely a solid pitcher.
I don't like him for 5 years, if that's what it ends up being ... just don't like signing a 31 year old for that long. If he pitches 200 innings, I like it ... but the last two years, he's been under 180, make me a tad nervous.
Certianly hurts the Angels, that's for sure.
Also, it could free up Buchholz to head to San Diego for Adrian Gonzalez! Which, I would love.
"You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
Beckett, Lester, Lackey with 2 of Dice K, Wakefield and Buchholz is a solid rotation.
Do you guys like this?
I am not a huge fan of Lackey and think he is a bit overrated but he is definitely a solid pitcher.
I don't like him for 5 years, if that's what it ends up being ... just don't like signing a 31 year old for that long. If he pitches 200 innings, I like it ... but the last two years, he's been under 180, make me a tad nervous.
Certianly hurts the Angels, that's for sure.
Also, it could free up Buchholz to head to San Diego for Adrian Gonzalez! Which, I would love.
Yeah, I would not want him signed for 5 years either (edit:if i were a red sox fan). his innings have been down for the past couple years and like you said he is 31. That is a good point about Buchholz though. Interesting move if it happens, I surely didn't see it coming.
Yeah, I would not want him signed for 5 years either (edit:if i were a red sox fan). his innings have been down for the past couple years and like you said he is 31. That is a good point about Buchholz though. Interesting move if it happens, I surely didn't see it coming.
It's how the Sox like to operate, I think it goes back to the Contreras scoop the Yanks made on the Sox.
Within the Sox ... loose lips, get fired.
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"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
Yeah, I would not want him signed for 5 years either (edit:if i were a red sox fan). his innings have been down for the past couple years and like you said he is 31. That is a good point about Buchholz though. Interesting move if it happens, I surely didn't see it coming.
It's how the Sox like to operate, I think it goes back to the Contreras scoop the Yanks made on the Sox.
Within the Sox ... loose lips, get fired.
I love how Theo handles business. No news from the Sox camp until it's done. No more negotiating in the press. No more Manny debacles like what was on ESPN.
I like the move, the 5th year worries me, but you need pitching and sometimes you overpay on the free agent market.
Jimed, here's a little off the wall idea for LF. Instead of giving big money for Holliday or Bay for 5 years or so, would you be happy with the unconventional signing of Vlad for LF. He has little range left, but LF is so small at home and with his gun he should cut down on the number of wall ball doubles. Plus you have Ellsbury patrolling Center who even with Bay and Manny always made plays by the wall in left center covering for them.
Plus you have Hermedia to spot him and he can DH if Papi slumps again. Even in his decline the last three years he's hitting .316 against righties.
I don't think he'll demand more than a 2 year deal for 8 mil per year.
Assuming you sign Beltre a lineup of:
Ellsbury
Pedroia
V Mart
Youk
Ortiz
Vlad
Drew
Beltre
Scutaro
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got to admit, I quickly looked at the pic of the dude throwing, wearing a Jays jersey ... was hoping you were going to tell me the Sox got Halladay ...
DAMN YOU.
They were talking about moving Pedroia over to SS, so ... looks like he'll stay at 2B
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Boof Bonser ... uh, ok.
ok, sincerely, the kid had his moments, he does K a good amount of guys, but he also missed all of 2009.
I see him as a Sox type pitcher gamble (high K's, good K/BB), but, he's not the answer. Hell, I don't even know if he's healthy.
Now, on to this Mike Lowell for Max Ramirez potential trade.
Ok, so we get a very good catching prospect, good bat ... needs help on the defense, but, Tek can be his mentor (seeing as he'll have more time with V Mart starting) .... but, do we REALLY need to pay 9 of the 12M due to Lowell next year?
FUCK, I hate these deals where we end up paying for soemone to play somewhere else. Especially, like in the case of Renteria, they have a great season.
I'll miss Lowell, but it's obvious he cannot play 3rd without being a defensive liability ... and the Sox have the DH spot filled. I'm just glad the Lowell for Milton Bradley rumors aren't going to happen, man, I want no part of that asshole.
Overall, feels like we're losing gorund to the Yanks ... (and the rest of the AL) ... Sox seem to think that the kids they got in the minors are too good to be traded, so, we'll have to wait and see about that. Guess we may have a few years of hoping for 90-95 wins and a wild card.
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
Plus, it's 12/10. We're a long way from Spring Training. Plus the Yankees will always outspend us. We're hoping that the development machine and Theo's smarts make up the difference. When you're not the one spending 200 million your solutions look a little less sexy.
you're right... 123 million is an ugly duckling.
Just wnat to point out my comments are not a "THE SKY IS FALLING" panic .... just an observation.
It's not about the Yanks outspendng the Sox ... I think the Yanks are a lot smarter with their spending these days*.
And Theo's thrown a few clunkers out there as well. Do I trust him/them yeah, but, it's not a 100% hit rate .... just got the feeling they'll have a tough time winning the AL East as currently constructed and with the direction they are heading.
* I still think CC will miss at least a season's worth of games before his contract is up.
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
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The Red Sox spent 80 million more than only one team. The Yankees outspent the Red Sox by 80 million. The Red Sox are no paupers, but please do not categorize them as the same. Similar maybe, but the Yankees are the Babe Ruth of spenders.
Let's take a step back.
The Yankees didn't knock the Sox out of the playoffs last year, the Angels did, and they spent a little less than the Sox.
2 years ago it was the Rays that knocked the Sox out, and they spent significantly less.
I wish Sox fans would stop throwing up the salary chart. Do the Yankees benefit? Yeah, they do, a lot ... but, it just sounds so silly for Sox fans to be the ones pointing it out.
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
I agree with you, but actually the Red Sox were 6th in payroll last year. The last link didn't take into account dead money on payroll (i.e. the Phillies paying Eaton 9 million and Jenkins 7 million to not show up)
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key= ... pPRtt9qIGw
The chart also shows payroll obligations as of the end of last season for the next 4 years.
It's kinda funny because of all the long term contracts they have signed the last few seasons that for of all the contracts that exist for the 2013 season, the Yanks are responsible for over 25% of the total salary commitments for all of baseball.
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- 9/2/00
- 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
- 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
- 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
- 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
- 8/2/07, 8/5/07
- 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
- 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
- 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
(and they pay $9m to get rid of him)
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see 8 posts up ....
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
d'oh!! Thought I had a scoop. :roll:
I should stick with the G-men. Rumor has it, they're looking at Nick Johnson. Yeah, I know, who cares?
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At least they got something for him.
They're eating 9.25 mil this year for Lugo.
- 8/28/98
- 9/2/00
- 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
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- 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
- 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
- 8/2/07, 8/5/07
- 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
- 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
- 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
again, which leads to my, "The Yankees are spending their money smarter" comment from above.
While the Sox are Pavano'ing their way through shortstops.
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
I'm not a Sox hater - at all - but once again I'm struck by how the big $$ teams can eat their mistakes and the small $$ clubs are stuck. Makes being a GM a LOT harder.
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Jason Bay rejects Sox offer of 4 year 60 million he's seeking a 5 year deal. Mets offering 4 year 65 million with Angels and the Mariners showing interest.
So where do the Sox go from here, I don't he's worth 15 million a year but what do I know and who can replaced @ what price???
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Sure I don't think so either, but if they want a productive hitter then they have to pay. It's either going to Bay or Holliday, OR we are going to have to trade the farm to get someone in those guys class.
I respect the Sox choice to place a value on a guy and then stick to their guns, I just don't see us competing with the Yankees without two more bats and a couple more arms. Anyway you cut it we are going to have to pay to keep up with the Yanks. $ or A prospects. :x
They HAVE to put a cap on these salaries!!! :roll: It's just ridiculous the amounts of money these players are getting paid!!! :wtf: :shock: :wtf:
Wish you were here...
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Did you know that major league players are given road meal money of a daily allowance of $106. What i don't know is....... is that per game which equals $8,586 or per day?? If it's per day it could be near $15,000 this is outside of their salary.
Amazing huh :shock:
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
It's funny how baseball and I'm sure other sports have changed so much over the years. Athletes had to work on the off season. Some of the athletes these days in some cases, have to take dangerous drugs to enhance their playing performance, just to try and break the records of those earlier years in the sport...
Wish you were here...
♥~RIP Dad
Source: Lackey has BoSox physical; deal close?
Free-agent right-hander John Lackey underwent a physical Monday with the Red Sox, an indication that he is close to an agreement with the team, according to a major-league source.
The deal is expected to be similar to the five-year, $82.5 million contract that the Yankees awarded free-agent right-hander A.J. Burnett last winter.
The Red Sox generally do not like to award five-year contracts, which is one of the sticking points in their negotiations with free-agent left fielder Jason Bay. It is not known whether they would guarantee Lackey five years, or award him a three- or four-year deal with options.
The signing of Lackey would represent the Red Sox's second major move of the offseason; the team earlier signed free-agent shortstop Marco Scutaro to a two-year, $12 million contract.
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
The Sox still need to address left field and their corner-infield positions. A major investment in Lackey would indicate that they might not spend heavily on Matt Holliday to replace Bay, perhaps going with a platoon of Mike Cameron and Jeremy Hermida in left.
They also could sign free agent Adrian Beltre to play third if they complete a trade of Mike Lowell to the Rangers, or sign first baseman Nick Johnson and move first baseman Kevin Youkilis to third.
Bay's agent, Joe Urbon, said Saturday that his client was prepared to "move on" due to a difference of opinion with the Red Sox on what he should be command as a free agent.
The Sox's move on Lackey appears to be an aggressive response to Bay's position — and their signing of him would be a devastating blow to the Angels, who earlier this offseason lost free-agent third baseman Chone Figgins to the Mariners.
The Angels and Phillies are the front-runners in trade discussions for Blue Jays right-hander Roy Halladay, according to major-league sources. Another possibility for the Angels would be a trade for Braves right-hander Derek Lowe.
Lackey, 31, is considered the top starting pitcher on the free-agent market. He was 102-71 with a 3.81 career ERA in eight seasons with the Angels, and 3-4 with a 3.12 ERA in the postseason.
The Red Sox, in addition to Lackey, are trying to sign right-hander Josh Beckett to a contract extension. Beckett, 29, is entering the final year of his contract. His career numbers are slightly better than Lackey's, and he would command at least a comparable deal.
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
Do you guys like this?
I am not a huge fan of Lackey and think he is a bit overrated but he is definitely a solid pitcher.
I don't like him for 5 years, if that's what it ends up being ... just don't like signing a 31 year old for that long. If he pitches 200 innings, I like it ... but the last two years, he's been under 180, make me a tad nervous.
Certianly hurts the Angels, that's for sure.
Also, it could free up Buchholz to head to San Diego for Adrian Gonzalez! Which, I would love.
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
Yeah, I would not want him signed for 5 years either (edit:if i were a red sox fan). his innings have been down for the past couple years and like you said he is 31. That is a good point about Buchholz though. Interesting move if it happens, I surely didn't see it coming.
It's how the Sox like to operate, I think it goes back to the Contreras scoop the Yanks made on the Sox.
Within the Sox ... loose lips, get fired.
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
I like the move, the 5th year worries me, but you need pitching and sometimes you overpay on the free agent market.
Must be why SoSH is down.
Plus you have Hermedia to spot him and he can DH if Papi slumps again. Even in his decline the last three years he's hitting .316 against righties.
I don't think he'll demand more than a 2 year deal for 8 mil per year.
Assuming you sign Beltre a lineup of:
Ellsbury
Pedroia
V Mart
Youk
Ortiz
Vlad
Drew
Beltre
Scutaro
is pretty good.
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