finally a straight honest answer from a guy without being a prick
so next time you're in a group ogling some girl walking along, just remember how intimidating it can be
intimidating is good. if girls are scared, they're more pliable. a little flutter in the stomach is physiologically very similar to arousal. they get flushed, breath heavier. it's effective. why do you think guys like to take girls to horror movies on dates? the fear is arousing.
you know, I hate to say it, but the more I think about, the comment that was made at the beginning that if a woman is wearing a low cut top then it is obviously "for" a man to stare at and therefore they have the right to, it is almost a rapist mentality: wearing certain clothing is "for" men and therefore gives them the right to do what they want.
you know I thought in 2007 as a society we'd be past all this.
this might be true. i've spoken to girls here who have gone to italy and spain and they say men just stare and don't even blink when you look at them. even here, there seem to be ethnic differences. i don't think most american men stare like this either. i look away if i get busted, but i often don't get busted
there are definitely ethnic differences. everytime i've ever been honked or whistled at on the street in the U.S., it's been from the same ethnic group.
and France is SKETCH-Y when it comes to this. Omg, every man on the street seems to just stare down every woman who walks by. I was honestly pretty frightened by it.
you know, I hate to say it, but the more I think about, the comment that was made at the beginning that if a woman is wearing a low cut top then it is obviously "for" a man to stare at and therefore they have the right to, it is almost a rapist mentality: wearing certain clothing is "for" men and therefore gives them the right to do what they want.
you know I thought in 2007 as a society we'd be past all this.
hey, i know its directed at me but i think saying i almost have a rapist mentality is a bit much... i said and i stand by it.. if a women passes me wearing a top that barely covers her nipples and her breasts are pushed out and up to resemble two bald men trying to get out of a bag... then i'm going to look.
i'm not saying all women do this, far from it... but i was meaning that some women dress to not only feel good about themselves but also to appeal to others... i think thats universally accepted.
but a rapists mentality... please.. i fuck around on this forum for some light entertainment, not to be called a rapist... wow
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
This thread reminds me of that episode of Seinfeld when Jerry says 'Men like women but they don't know how to get them. They honk their car horns because they don't know what else to do. We're all out of idea's'!
that reminds me of a Billy Connolly quote:-
"Apparently, women need to feel loved to have sex. Men need to have sex to feel loved. How do we ever get started?"
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
It's funny how I said I've got no make up on, wearing jeans and a T-shirt and I'm getting ignored.
P.S. :mad:
what was that?
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
hey, i know its directed at me but i think saying i almost have a rapist mentality is a bit much... i said and i stand by it.. if a women passes me wearing a top that barely covers her nipples and her breasts are pushed out and up to resemble two bald men trying to get out of a bag... then i'm going to look.
i'm not saying all women do this, far from it... but i was meaning that some women dress to not only feel good about themselves but also to appeal to others... i think thats universally accepted.
but a rapists mentality... please.. i fuck around on this forum for some light entertainment, not to be called a rapist... wow
I did not mean to insinuate that you are a rapist. all I meant was, it is the sort of "she was asking for it" mentality that society seems to accept that goes right along with what a rapist thinks he has the right to do.
I did not mean to insinuate that you are a rapist. all I meant was, it is the sort of "she was asking for it" mentality that society seems to accept that goes right along with what a rapist thinks he has the right to do.
there's a difference between asking and not caring. if guys checking out your rack bothers you so much, don't wear the low cut. if you walk down the street naked, do you think no one will look? it has nothing to do with asking for it. if it concerns you, take it into account.
I did not mean to insinuate that you are a rapist. all I meant was, it is the sort of "she was asking for it" mentality that society seems to accept that goes right along with what a rapist thinks he has the right to do.
I dont think that's what he was saying really. You cant deny that some women wear certain clothes in order to have certain areas of their bodies exposed so they are noticed more. Im not saying there is anything wrong with this by the way.
People say im paranoid. Well, they dont say it, but i know that's what they are thinking.
actually no, I don't really "agree." Staring does hurt, just not on the same level, obviously.
As a man, you can't know what it feels like to be ogled. there are times when a man might be looking at you because you catch his eye and he thinks you are very pretty. this is not the same as when you walk past a truck full of migrant workers and they start honking and yelling obscenities because they do that to *every* woman who walks by. and you know they are staring at your butt. and you want to dive behind a tree and hide yourself.
anyway I genuinely didn't want to start a philosophical debate on why exactly men are perverted freaks... I just want them to fuckin stop it... :cool: got it?
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Perhaps, Helen, you've just got really great boobs
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"Behave like rock stars - not like the President." (live - Noblesville, IN - 8/17/98)
--Ed
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It's funny how I said I've got no make up on, wearing jeans and a T-shirt and I'm getting ignored.
P.S. :mad:
well I've no make up on, am wearing jeans and a tshirt and have my hair thrown up and I'm getting ogled :mad:
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
As a man, you can't know what it feels like to be ogled.
really??? women don't 'ogle'?
i've seen groups of women in pubs who do nothing but ogle men. and vice versa...
Diet Coke adverts??????
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
Perhaps, Helen, you've just got really great boobs
No, I'm not posting a boob shot
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
If men didnt look at women at all and walked around with their eyes to the floor constantly, the same amount of women that were angry they were being ogled would be angry no-one was paying them attention, so you canny win.
People say im paranoid. Well, they dont say it, but i know that's what they are thinking.
hey, i know its directed at me but i think saying i almost have a rapist mentality is a bit much... i said and i stand by it.. if a women passes me wearing a top that barely covers her nipples and her breasts are pushed out and up to resemble two bald men trying to get out of a bag... then i'm going to look.
i'm not saying all women do this, far from it... but i was meaning that some women dress to not only feel good about themselves but also to appeal to others... i think thats universally accepted.
but a rapists mentality... please.. i fuck around on this forum for some light entertainment, not to be called a rapist... wow
*creep* I know what you meant. You never say anything in your posts that makes me think you're really an asshole.
I think dunk's probably right about the dressing up thing. I guess women like to be noticed but not STARED at by a group of blokes. It's embarrassing. Well, I think so anyway. It makes me feel stupid.
well I've no make up on, am wearing jeans and a tshirt and have my hair thrown up and I'm getting ogled :mad:
no offence but perhaps these guys were catholic priests and are totally fucking gagging on some action?
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
Speaking as a man who loves boobs (and i love boobs, ask my suffering fiancee), I like to look as much as the next guy, but staring and making it really obvious is just stupid.
"I am a doughnut." (live - Berlin, Germany - 11/03/96)
"Behave like rock stars - not like the President." (live - Noblesville, IN - 8/17/98)
--Ed
"Yeah, I was gonna learn to play it (Breath) but somebody slipped me a bottle of viagra and was busy doing something else six times last night" (live - New York, NY - 9/10/98)
I think the reason it makes me feel uncomfortable is cos I KNOW they're seeing me naked... so I feel like I AM... and nobody wants to be walking through a building site naked, well no women anyway. Men are different, they strip off any chance they get, anyone who was in Oslo last weekend would know that
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
i've seen groups of women in pubs who do nothing but ogle men. and vice versa...
Diet Coke adverts??????
Damn right, i was coming back from the bar last week with a few drinks and a women put her hand down the back of my jeans while her friends giggled. If i had done that to a woman there would be an uproar!
People say im paranoid. Well, they dont say it, but i know that's what they are thinking.
no offence but perhaps these guys were catholic priests and are totally fucking gagging on some action?
possibly! Although I don't recall being ogled by priests EVER... I'm one of the lucky ones
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
*creep* I know what you meant. You never say anything in your posts that makes me think you're really an asshole.
I think dunk's probably right about the dressing up thing. I guess women like to be noticed but not STARED at by a group of blokes. It's embarrassing. Well, I think so anyway. It makes me feel stupid.
ok MCKB, i admit i wouldnt stare at a girl.. i wouldnt do it if i was in a group of guys either... but i will admit to glancing at areas of a nice lady if she so happens to be showing off that region.. mini skirts were designed to 'show off' the legs.. so i'm gonna look.
but group staring isnt cool i grant thee... unless its on a stag do and the stripper is firing ping pong balls from her foo-foo... then its actually accepted to stare
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
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intimidating is good. if girls are scared, they're more pliable. a little flutter in the stomach is physiologically very similar to arousal. they get flushed, breath heavier. it's effective. why do you think guys like to take girls to horror movies on dates? the fear is arousing.
Well, if what dunkman and some of the other guys think is true, at least you know she's not looking elsewhere.
not even close. staring hurts nobody.
there are definitely ethnic differences. everytime i've ever been honked or whistled at on the street in the U.S., it's been from the same ethnic group.
and France is SKETCH-Y when it comes to this. Omg, every man on the street seems to just stare down every woman who walks by. I was honestly pretty frightened by it.
I agree, i'm just saying it's the same mentality that women are "for" men.
hey, i know its directed at me but i think saying i almost have a rapist mentality is a bit much... i said and i stand by it.. if a women passes me wearing a top that barely covers her nipples and her breasts are pushed out and up to resemble two bald men trying to get out of a bag... then i'm going to look.
i'm not saying all women do this, far from it... but i was meaning that some women dress to not only feel good about themselves but also to appeal to others... i think thats universally accepted.
but a rapists mentality... please.. i fuck around on this forum for some light entertainment, not to be called a rapist... wow
P.S. :mad:
that reminds me of a Billy Connolly quote:-
"Apparently, women need to feel loved to have sex. Men need to have sex to feel loved. How do we ever get started?"
it beats a sweatsuit. and some girls don't need make up.
True.
what was that?
I did not mean to insinuate that you are a rapist. all I meant was, it is the sort of "she was asking for it" mentality that society seems to accept that goes right along with what a rapist thinks he has the right to do.
there's a difference between asking and not caring. if guys checking out your rack bothers you so much, don't wear the low cut. if you walk down the street naked, do you think no one will look? it has nothing to do with asking for it. if it concerns you, take it into account.
I dont think that's what he was saying really. You cant deny that some women wear certain clothes in order to have certain areas of their bodies exposed so they are noticed more. Im not saying there is anything wrong with this by the way.
sunglasses
Hmmm. Not sure.
Probably taking my insecurity out on everyone else.
I'll shut up now.
actually no, I don't really "agree." Staring does hurt, just not on the same level, obviously.
As a man, you can't know what it feels like to be ogled. there are times when a man might be looking at you because you catch his eye and he thinks you are very pretty. this is not the same as when you walk past a truck full of migrant workers and they start honking and yelling obscenities because they do that to *every* woman who walks by. and you know they are staring at your butt. and you want to dive behind a tree and hide yourself.
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
"Behave like rock stars - not like the President." (live - Noblesville, IN - 8/17/98)
--Ed
"Yeah, I was gonna learn to play it (Breath) but somebody slipped me a bottle of viagra and was busy doing something else six times last night" (live - New York, NY - 9/10/98)
--Ed
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
really??? women don't 'ogle'?
i've seen groups of women in pubs who do nothing but ogle men. and vice versa...
Diet Coke adverts??????
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
*creep* I know what you meant. You never say anything in your posts that makes me think you're really an asshole.
I think dunk's probably right about the dressing up thing. I guess women like to be noticed but not STARED at by a group of blokes. It's embarrassing. Well, I think so anyway. It makes me feel stupid.
no offence but perhaps these guys were catholic priests and are totally fucking gagging on some action?
Speaking as a man who loves boobs (and i love boobs, ask my suffering fiancee), I like to look as much as the next guy, but staring and making it really obvious is just stupid.
"Behave like rock stars - not like the President." (live - Noblesville, IN - 8/17/98)
--Ed
"Yeah, I was gonna learn to play it (Breath) but somebody slipped me a bottle of viagra and was busy doing something else six times last night" (live - New York, NY - 9/10/98)
--Ed
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Damn right, i was coming back from the bar last week with a few drinks and a women put her hand down the back of my jeans while her friends giggled. If i had done that to a woman there would be an uproar!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
ok MCKB, i admit i wouldnt stare at a girl.. i wouldnt do it if i was in a group of guys either... but i will admit to glancing at areas of a nice lady if she so happens to be showing off that region.. mini skirts were designed to 'show off' the legs.. so i'm gonna look.
but group staring isnt cool i grant thee... unless its on a stag do and the stripper is firing ping pong balls from her foo-foo... then its actually accepted to stare