alright I understand everyone saying that yes there are men that just stare at you like a "cheap piece of ass" but there are men that just look cause of curiosity. They may like your face and just want to see if your body (or anything else) is just as nice as your face. Some don't do it in a demeaning way. There ARE men out there that dont see women as objects.
aww, yeah it can be sweet. dont get me wrong. LOTS of gentlemen out there....a few a-holes too.
yeah , I knew you werent being mean. I wanted to be careful what to say....and not all of us rely on comfortable absolutes, because we need a "control."
I am probably worse than men. I always gawk at women....I think some get annoyed. I have amazing-looking friends who I have known for YEARS and I still STARE at them...also for some reason, all of my friends moms are HOT!!!
Does it depend on the way its done??...
If you are 17, you are way ahead of your years. :cool:
Also, yes there is a ticker. An expiry date if you will. Our hotness will run out...it runs out at age 22.
We arent mothers, sisters, ceos,Doctors etc?.....self-image and body/face image isnt synonymous.
Most guys who have been attracted to me, have been not for my looks....
you want one? or you want to know if she's seen one? i used to have some up here, but i think they're gone now. every time people see pictures of me they say they have a hard time believing i'm the caustic guy they've read here. they say i look too laid back and happy.
I don't understand what rarghrargh-brownstar posted either, btw, about 60 years old, etc.
If you have a photobucket link, I'd like to see your pic, SS...
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alright I understand everyone saying that yes there are men that just stare at you like a "cheap piece of ass" but there are men that just look cause of curiosity. They may like your face and just want to see if your body (or anything else) is just as nice as your face. Some don't do it in a demeaning way. There ARE men out there that dont see women as objects.
Yes! I agree. And I'm sure that women know this.
We all look. Sometimes though, being looked at can make you feel icky. Lot of stuff that goes in with human interaction that has nothing to do with talking and is all about feeling.
its always the ugly guys that get all bitter about these issues no? ; ). Just so apparent...the insecurity turned to sheer madness. *sigh*
sad. : (
edit: I remember Cosmo saying something similar about this topic once...like enjoy it while it lasts. So dont expect that from a 60-something year old. : p Because yeah, thats all women rely on....*always a good place to come to for a laugh* : D
haha! Actually from what I saw of him, ss looks alright to me. I wouldn't call him ugly.....but then sometimes he opens his mouth!
Seriously though? I mostly see people as beautiful because of HOW they are, so they could be FOUR HUNDRED and wrinkly as a sharpei but if they've got personality and a twinkle in their eye I'd still find them gorgeous.
I don't really get all hot and bothered and oggling a guy very often, and I HATE the feeling anyway, so I usually just talk to them, and find they become more attractive as they speak or uglier depending on what they say. But then I think I'm probably odd like that.
And to be honest I don't really give a rats if people find me attractive or not generally but when I was younger I truly hated being ogled. It made me feel like shit. THANK GOD for getting old is all I can say. NOW if someone is ogling at least I know that they're looking at me as I am and not imagining me as some fucked up sex fantasy from a porn website that is nothing like who I am.
i complain about everyone. but to play along, the crucial difference is my complaints are consistent. even when the women here complain about men, it reveals how utterly irrational you all are... wanting two contradictory things and wanting them both now. "i want them to stop staring at me, but i don't want them to not want to stare at me." jesus, make a decision and live with it.
No love, the crucial difference is YOU THINK your complaints are consistent. I know mine probably aren't and I'm not apologizing for it. I am who I am. Warts and all.
I mean the way I see it, I'm not the one being irrational here, it's you!
are you watching soulsinging through a webcam? how do you know how he looks? I don't think I've seen his pic before.
Nah! I was just having a little joke! I can't see him, and I couldn't care less if he had two heads, which I know he doesn't coz I have seen him.
But I figure he should brush his hair anyway!
haha! Actually from what I saw of him, ss looks alright to me. I wouldn't call him ugly.....but then sometimes he opens his mouth!
Seriously though? I mostly see people as beautiful because of HOW they are, so they could be FOUR HUNDRED and wrinkly as a sharpei but if they've got personality and a twinkle in their eye I'd still find them gorgeous.
I don't really get all hot and bothered and oggling a guy very often, and I HATE the feeling anyway, so I usually just talk to them, and find they become more attractive as they speak or uglier depending on what they say. But then I think I'm probably odd like that.
And to be honest I don't really give a rats if people find me attractive or not generally but when I was younger I truly hated being ogled. It made me feel like shit. THANK GOD for getting old is all I can say. NOW if someone is ogling at least I know that they're looking at me as I am and not imagining me as some fucked up sex fantasy from a porn website that is nothing like who I am.
It took almost getting to the end of this post to realize that thankfully I had misread. I thought you were jamie for a second! lol I was thinking, he is complimenting soul's looks and admitting to checking out guys...ok...
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And I don't feel right when you're gone away
No love, the crucial difference is YOU THINK your complaints are consistent. I know mine probably aren't and I'm not apologizing for it. I am who I am. Warts and all.
I mean the way I see it, I'm not the one being irrational here, it's you!
only a woman could admit she is not being consistent and then accuse someone else of being the irrational one in the very next sentence :rolleyes:
that said, rationality aside, who is having more fun here? cos i'm having a gas.
no, she's not. she keeps asking, but as i keep telling her, i only strip for money. the girls can't resist a bad boy i guess :rolleyes:
haha! I would gauge my own eyes out with a hot poker before I'd watch you get neked love. And I'm sure you know that's nothing personal and feel the same about me getting neked.
Considering I don't think of you as a bad boy, haha, I think I can resist you. I just find it hard to ignore you when you're being beligerent. I'm not alone. It bugs others too, but I'm sure you just do it for effect.
When I was at uni a couple of years back, there were a couple of REALLY GORGEOUS young guys. One in particular, was just gorgeous AND a really nice bloke. Well I thought so anyway. I'm not normally one for oggling anyone, but I had a real hard time with him. In the end I figured the best thing to do was make friends with him, which I did, and then I could just talk to him and look at him anytime I liked. BUT I did make sure that I told him that I found him attractive and a really nice guy and that I had ABSOLUTELY no plans to do anything other than be friends. It worked really well. He appreciated my candour and by telling him what I thought I managed to diffuse the situation for myself and "neutralize" my attraction.
interesting....regardless of sex, anyone is liable to feel vulnerable. I cant keep up with the conversations here, as I have someone on my ignore list. Just so they wont be upset with my comments ... :( edit: so I wont respond back to them-or they take it the wrong way.
I use to judge my friends in HS + College for just wanting to be with good-looking dudes.....Maybe, I could have been more "human" too. Its almost like I felt guilty....for being judged. I was dumb.
Since this place can "sometimes" be notorious for generlizations...I thought Id take the opportunity to distribute my own wealth as well. In the real, I have noticed guys who arent attractive ( said so by themselves) get more pissy about these things.
Iluvcats - I was just poking fun at the fact that I expect more out of my elders. nevermind. :rolleyes:
"neutralize" my attraction- thats an interesting phrase. :cool:
haha! Actually from what I saw of him, ss looks alright to me. I wouldn't call him ugly.....but then sometimes he opens his mouth!
Seriously though? I mostly see people as beautiful because of HOW they are, so they could be FOUR HUNDRED and wrinkly as a sharpei but if they've got personality and a twinkle in their eye I'd still find them gorgeous.
I don't really get all hot and bothered and oggling a guy very often, and I HATE the feeling anyway, so I usually just talk to them, and find they become more attractive as they speak or uglier depending on what they say. But then I think I'm probably odd like that.
i would say you're odd if i believed a word of that
It took almost getting to the end of this post to realize that thankfully I had misread. I thought you were jamie for a second! lol I was thinking, he is complimenting soul's looks and admitting to checking out guys...ok...
lol
aww, yeah it can be sweet. dont get me wrong. LOTS of gentlemen out there....a few a-holes too.
yeah , I knew you werent being mean. I wanted to be careful what to say....and not all of us rely on comfortable absolutes, because we need a "control."
I am probably worse than men. I always gawk at women....I think some get annoyed. I have amazing-looking friends who I have known for YEARS and I still STARE at them...also for some reason, all of my friends moms are HOT!!!
Does it depend on the way its done??...
If you are 17, you are way ahead of your years. :cool:
Also, yes there is a ticker. An expiry date if you will. Our hotness will run out...it runs out at age 22.
We arent mothers, sisters, ceos,Doctors etc?.....self-image and body/face image isnt synonymous.
Most guys who have been attracted to me, have been not for my looks....
((HH)) We know how you feel. :(
well i'm actually 18, just turned it less than two months ago..... so i guess i kinda still am 17 at heart. and thank you.
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haha! I would gauge my own eyes out with a hot poker before I'd watch you get neked love. And I'm sure you know that's nothing personal and feel the same about me getting neked.
Considering I don't think of you as a bad boy, haha, I think I can resist you. I just find it hard to ignore you when you're being beligerent. I'm not alone. It bugs others too, but I'm sure you just do it for effect.
but only cos im ugly on the inside right? or so you impled above, yeah?
no offense taken btw. i've no clue what you look like so i can't comment on the second part.
i'm sure you could resist me though. you just can't ignore me. it's ok though, few women round here can.
interesting....regardless of sex, anyone is liable to feel vulnerable. I cant keep up with the conversations here, as I have someone on my ignore list. Just so they wont be upset with my comments ... :( edit: so I wont respond back to them-or they take it the wrong way.
I use to judge my friends in HS + College for just wanting to be with good-looking dudes.....Maybe, I could have been more "human" too. Its almost like I felt guilty....for being judged. I was dumb.
Since this place can "sometimes" be notorious for generlizations...I thought Id take the opportunity to distribute my own wealth as well. In the real, I have noticed guys who arent attractive ( said so by themselves) get more pissy about these things.
i stand corrected. one can ignore me it seems!
i'm curious what things ugly dudes get pissy about? as i recall, this thread was about girls getting pissy over guys checking them out...
Me too! btw. You wanna duke it out for the "who's having the most fun?" prize?
i'm in law school. ill duke it out over ANYTHING.
ps. every time i try to quote you i get the message about having too many emoticons. i've never gotten that warning before, and i'm not too happy to be getting it now... makes me feel unmasculine!
haha! Actually from what I saw of him, ss looks alright to me. I wouldn't call him ugly.....but then sometimes he opens his mouth!
Seriously though? I mostly see people as beautiful because of HOW they are, so they could be FOUR HUNDRED and wrinkly as a sharpei but if they've got personality and a twinkle in their eye I'd still find them gorgeous.
I don't really get all hot and bothered and oggling a guy very often, and I HATE the feeling anyway, so I usually just talk to them, and find they become more attractive as they speak or uglier depending on what they say. But then I think I'm probably odd like that.
And to be honest I don't really give a rats if people find me attractive or not generally but when I was younger I truly hated being ogled. It made me feel like shit. THANK GOD for getting old is all I can say. NOW if someone is ogling at least I know that they're looking at me as I am and not imagining me as some fucked up sex fantasy from a porn website that is nothing like who I am.
whaaaaa??? :( I wasnt commenting on anyone's "looks." I have had a bad case of experience (witnessing) the least attractive guys and their "bullying" of such topics.
SS- is a cutie Ive seen his pics.....even if someone wasnt goodlooking, why would someone even make remarks about someone's appearance? How does that make you bigger?.....Now I am gonna cry. Thats mean.....I like to joke, but not to that extent. Especially when you dont even know someone..wtf?
(if he actually WAS bad-looking I would feel bad)...:o
I dont even want to read all of the other posts.....this is why I dont always like coming here. "Technical " deception. arghhhh
You're in law school SS ? oh well don't worry then,..you sould be making a very handsome living by taking peoples comments out of context for the rest of your career.lol.
interesting....regardless of sex, anyone is liable to feel vulnerable. I cant keep up with the conversations here, as I have someone on my ignore list. Just so they wont be upset with my comments ... : ( edit: so I wont respond back to them-or they take it the wrong way.
I agree.
And as to the ignore thing, I understand. Sometimes no matter what I say, people don't get me. That's ok. Sometimes I don't get them either and it's better to just give up trying than get into fisty cuffs over it. Not that I'm very good at managing that sometimes either!
I use to judge my friends in HS + College for just wanting to be with good-looking dudes.....Maybe, I could have been more "human" too. Its almost like I felt guilty....for being judged. I was dumb. : p
ooh ra-ra! I've done that too! We're a funny bunch, humans.
Since this place can "sometimes" be notorious for generlizations...I thought Id take the opportunity to distribute my own wealth as well. : p In the real, I have noticed guys who arent attractive ( said so by themselves) get more pissy about these things.
"neutralize" my attraction- thats an interesting phrase. :cool:
oh, I figure if I'm having any kind of over the top emotional response to someone, the only thing I can do is sort it in me. Coz it's not like I can change them right? So I "neutralize". Find ways to change the way I view them. I find the best way to do that is to admit to myself what the emotion is I'm feeling in response to them and work on stopping it. Of course there are times when I don't wanna stop it! BUT they'd know that too.
You're in law school SS ? oh well don't worry then,..you sould be making a very handsome living by taking peoples comments out of context for the rest of your career.lol.
why do you think i spend so much time here? practice!
but only cos im ugly on the inside right? or so you impled above, yeah?
no offense taken btw. i've no clue what you look like so i can't comment on the second part.
i'm sure you could resist me though. you just can't ignore me. it's ok though, few women round here can.
no you idiot! I don't think you're ugly at all. Inside or out. But you shit me sometimes. But that's ok, I'm quite sure I shit you too. Am I right? Or am I right?
I'm sure I sent you a pic at some point, I musta been memorable! HA!
I don't wanna see you get neked, coz I don't wanna see ANYONE get neked, unless we're planning on getting down to it. And there's only one person I'm planning on getting down with. SO everybody else should keep their clothes on around me!
And I could resist you on account, you are otherwise taken to the best of my memory, which basically activates my "off button", not to mention I consider myself "taken" which also activates the button. Oh and you're too young and on the other side of the world, and your my friend so it's easy to resist you.
But you're are so very right, (ENJOY IT!) you are VERY HARD to ignore!
Ok, here we go then. Someone may have said this already, I haven't read through,..but, and it's a big but, this thread started off with a female oserving the actions of a handful of men, and instantly...tarnished the lot of us. How about I say,.."why do women have to be so feckin crafty and let you buy them a drink, and then piss off,....without even getting you one back..." It's a silly, immature generalisation, based on the actions of individuals..and therefore not worthy of debate by healthy, mature, intelligent adults (good job that rules most of us out then!). We don't all behave like it....so let's cool it.
so you buy them a drink because why exactly jamie...?
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aww, yeah it can be sweet.
yeah , I knew you werent being mean. I wanted to be careful what to say....and not all of us rely on comfortable absolutes, because we need a "control."
I am probably worse than men. I always gawk at women....I think some get annoyed. I have amazing-looking friends who I have known for YEARS and I still STARE at them...also for some reason, all of my friends moms are HOT!!!
Does it depend on the way its done??...
If you are 17, you are way ahead of your years. :cool:
Also, yes there is a ticker. An expiry date if you will. Our hotness will run out...it runs out at age 22.
We arent mothers, sisters, ceos,Doctors etc?.....self-image and body/face image isnt synonymous.
Most guys who have been attracted to me, have been not for my looks....
((HH)) We know how you feel. :(
I don't understand what rarghrargh-brownstar posted either, btw, about 60 years old, etc.
If you have a photobucket link, I'd like to see your pic, SS...
8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
10/10 - Brad in B'more
Yes!
We all look. Sometimes though, being looked at can make you feel icky. Lot of stuff that goes in with human interaction that has nothing to do with talking and is all about feeling.
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Oh what bollocks!
And if it makes you feel any better, I opened that damn box of jaffa cakes, and you've made me sick!
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haha!
Seriously though? I mostly see people as beautiful because of HOW they are, so they could be FOUR HUNDRED and wrinkly as a sharpei but if they've got personality and a twinkle in their eye I'd still find them gorgeous.
I don't really get all hot and bothered and oggling a guy very often, and I HATE the feeling anyway, so I usually just talk to them, and find they become more attractive as they speak or uglier depending on what they say. But then I think I'm probably odd like that.
And to be honest I don't really give a rats if people find me attractive or not generally but when I was younger I truly hated being ogled. It made me feel like shit. THANK GOD for getting old is all I can say. NOW if someone is ogling at least I know that they're looking at me as I am and not imagining me as some fucked up sex fantasy from a porn website that is nothing like who I am.
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No love, the crucial difference is YOU THINK your complaints are consistent.
I mean the way I see it, I'm not the one being irrational here, it's you!
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Nah!
But I figure he should brush his hair anyway!
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lol
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
only a woman could admit she is not being consistent and then accuse someone else of being the irrational one in the very next sentence :rolleyes:
that said, rationality aside, who is having more fun here? cos i'm having a gas.
haha!
Considering I don't think of you as a bad boy, haha, I think I can resist you. I just find it hard to ignore you when you're being beligerent. I'm not alone. It bugs others too, but I'm sure you just do it for effect.
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I use to judge my friends in HS + College for just wanting to be with good-looking dudes.....Maybe, I could have been more "human" too. Its almost like I felt guilty....for being judged. I was dumb.
Since this place can "sometimes" be notorious for generlizations...I thought Id take the opportunity to distribute my own wealth as well.
Iluvcats - I was just poking fun at the fact that I expect more out of my elders. nevermind. :rolleyes:
"neutralize" my attraction- thats an interesting phrase. :cool:
Yeah, because they were sooooooo good I ate too many!!!
And it's all your fault!
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i would say you're odd if i believed a word of that
hahaha!!!
Not that there's anything wrong with that!
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well i'm actually 18, just turned it less than two months ago..... so i guess i kinda still am 17 at heart. and thank you.
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♬♪♫ cause a soldier's death is so much better than defeat just hanging around
but only cos im ugly on the inside right? or so you impled above, yeah?
no offense taken btw. i've no clue what you look like so i can't comment on the second part.
i'm sure you could resist me though. you just can't ignore me. it's ok though, few women round here can.
Yeah!
Me too! btw.
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i stand corrected. one can ignore me it seems!
i'm curious what things ugly dudes get pissy about? as i recall, this thread was about girls getting pissy over guys checking them out...
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10/10 - Brad in B'more
i'm in law school. ill duke it out over ANYTHING.
ps. every time i try to quote you i get the message about having too many emoticons. i've never gotten that warning before, and i'm not too happy to be getting it now... makes me feel unmasculine!
SS- is a cutie Ive seen his pics.....even if someone wasnt goodlooking, why would someone even make remarks about someone's appearance? How does that make you bigger?.....Now I am gonna cry. Thats mean.....I like to joke, but not to that extent. Especially when you dont even know someone..wtf?
(if he actually WAS bad-looking I would feel bad)...:o
I dont even want to read all of the other posts.....this is why I dont always like coming here. "Technical " deception. arghhhh
I agree.
And as to the ignore thing, I understand. Sometimes no matter what I say, people don't get me. That's ok. Sometimes I don't get them either and it's better to just give up trying than get into fisty cuffs over it. Not that I'm very good at managing that sometimes either!
ooh ra-ra! I've done that too! We're a funny bunch, humans.
Bit like short man syndrome?
oh, I figure if I'm having any kind of over the top emotional response to someone, the only thing I can do is sort it in me. Coz it's not like I can change them right? So I "neutralize". Find ways to change the way I view them. I find the best way to do that is to admit to myself what the emotion is I'm feeling in response to them and work on stopping it. Of course there are times when I don't wanna stop it!
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why do you think i spend so much time here? practice!
no you idiot!
I'm sure I sent you a pic at some point, I musta been memorable! HA!
I don't wanna see you get neked, coz I don't wanna see ANYONE get neked, unless we're planning on getting down to it. And there's only one person I'm planning on getting down with. SO everybody else should keep their clothes on around me!
And I could resist you on account, you are otherwise taken to the best of my memory, which basically activates my "off button", not to mention I consider myself "taken" which also activates the button.
But you're are so very right, (ENJOY IT!) you are VERY HARD to ignore!
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so you buy them a drink because why exactly jamie...?
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
You're pretty darn cute yourself girl.
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it's called a blowjob. be generous.