This one pains me. Johan has long been a favorite of mine. I drafted him in 2 fantasy leagues a few years back when he was a reliever. Now he's on the Mutts. Who continue in their quest to buy a championship. maybe this year they'll have better luck, and may be able to buy a division title. It should be noted that Johan will make more than the entire Yankees rotation next year if it's Pettitte, Wang, Hughes, Joba and Kennedy
This one pains me. Johan has long been a favorite of mine. I drafted him in 2 fantasy leagues a few years back when he was a reliever. Now he's on the Mutts. Who continue in their quest to buy a championship. maybe this year they'll have better luck, and may be able to buy a division title. It should be noted that Johan will make more than the entire Yankees rotation next year if it's Pettitte, Wang, Hughes, Joba and Kennedy
we already bought a division title a few years ago.
and who gives a fuck anyhow? thats the default argument of jealous losers ... "you bought your championship." yea and it's about fucking time.
Sorry, I don't think I made myself clear. Yes, the Yankees and every other team in MLB have home grown players on their team. However, the Yankees can attribute less of their success to their home grown players than any other team in baseball or close it, especially since the 2000 season. My criticisms of the Yankees, Red Sox and now I fear the Mets is that they do not seem to have the patience to develop a young player into a star. As a Dodger fan, words cannot describe the pride that is felt when a Russell Martin, Paul Lo Duca, Mike Piazza, Andre Either, I could go on forever comes up and becomes a star. The point is, recognizing young talent and having the patience to nurture it rather than selling it off for something NOW used to be a part of baseball. Unfortunately, the Yankees and Red Sox seem to be killing this mode of team managment. And lately the Dodgers seem to be following suit. Makes me sad. But it makes me feel a little better that the Yankees have won jack shit since 2000.
First of all, respect to you for being a Dodgers fan for a long-time. It's got to be tough when the organization lets products of their draft and farm system walk or trades them away. They had so many consecutive Rookies of the Year that prove how good their player development is. But what has it gotten them? A couple of trips to the playoffs in the past 10 years and zero WS titles in 20 years. That's what.
Second, you can point fingers all you want about free agency and high payrolls usually being the mark of the elite teams, but the truth is that the game of baseball has evolved and this is our product. We may not like that the best players go to the highest bidders, but that's what we have on our hands. I'm not a fan of this system, but my favorite team's ownership happens to have the resources to compete in this system. I'm glad they do. Otherwise, the Mets would be the Royals or the Pirates or the Rays. I refuse to apologize or try to sooth people's feelings about this Santana deal. We won the derby, we're paying the piper, and the rest of you have to live with what might have been.
Thirdly and last of all, your criticisms that those teams listed above "do not have the patience to develop a young player into a star" are poorly researched. The Mets have Wright and Reyes, two guys that are becoming fixtures on the all-star team. The Yankees, as Hellfish pointed out, developed the core of their championship runs from '96-'00 from within. The Red Sox just debuted three or four really good players from their minor leagues last season: Pedroia (ROY), Ellsbury, Buchholz, Lester (return from cancer).
In sum, either jump on the bandwagon (which your team has done before: Kevin Brown or Jeff Kent ring a bell?) or get out of the way. Stop bagging on the Mets for getting this player just because your team didn't have the courage to go for it. I mean, they have the prospects/future stars, right? If your team wants to be a big boy--they ARE the Dodgers, for cryin' out loud--they need to start playing ball like big boys. Otherwise, your prized farm products will be sitting at home watching the D'backs, Rockies, or Padres represent the West every year in the postseason.
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we already bought a division title a few years ago.
and who gives a fuck anyhow? thats the default argument of jealous losers ... "you bought your championship." yea and it's about fucking time.
You can't buy a championship. It's all about chemistry, and without chemistry comes a collapse. Y'all do have a solid team though. It will be interesting to see how everything plays out with injuries, who performs higher than expected, and who plays like shiat. I can't wait for the season to start!!
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You can't buy a championship. It's all about chemistry, and without chemistry comes a collapse. Y'all do have a solid team though. It will be interesting to see how everything plays out with injuries, who performs higher than expected, and who plays like shiat. I can't wait for the season to start!!
Does taking back an old player for a real high salary count as trying to buy a championship or is that counted as a homegrown player? Seriously.
you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
good question. I consider Pettitte to be a homegrown yankee, despite the 3 years in Houston, and despite the fact that he was signed as a free agent. It could easily be argued that he was a homegrown Yankee from 1995-2003, and is now just another free agent signee. I'm not sure if that answers your question. Did you mean pettitte, or someone more along the lines of a Mariano Rivera, who's been a Yankee his whole career, but this year hit the free agent market, and ultimately resigned with the yankees?
I wouldn't count on it. i'm a big Yankees fan, one who loves seeing the Mets suffer. But there's no chance of them not making the playoffs when you take last years team, drop Loduca and Milledge and add Johan Santana. The Phillies will still be good, and it will still be a good divisional race, but the only scenario where the Mets miss the playoffs is if Santana blows out his arm, or Maine, Perez and Pedro all suck and/or get hurt
good question. I consider Pettitte to be a homegrown yankee, despite the 3 years in Houston, and despite the fact that he was signed as a free agent. It could easily be argued that he was a homegrown Yankee from 1995-2003, and is now just another free agent signee. I'm not sure if that answers your question. Did you mean pettitte, or someone more along the lines of a Mariano Rivera, who's been a Yankee his whole career, but this year hit the free agent market, and ultimately resigned with the yankees?
I was actually thinking more along the lines of Tom Glavine going back to the Braves, but I think that Pettite is another perfect example of what I was thinking about. I'm not sure how I would look at them, not that it really makes a big difference as long as the fans except that player.
I'd definitely consider Mo to be a homegrown Yankee considering he never pitched anywhere else.
you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
I wouldn't count on it. i'm a big Yankees fan, one who loves seeing the Mets suffer. But there's no chance of them not making the playoffs when you take last years team, drop Loduca and Milledge and add Johan Santana. The Phillies will still be good, and it will still be a good divisional race, but the only scenario where the Mets miss the playoffs is if Santana blows out his arm, or Maine, Perez and Pedro all suck and/or get hurt
Or if the entire offense decides not to hit, ever.
you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
He's a great pitcher, but not for that cash. His arm has already begun to fall off. only 15 wins last year, you guys OVERPAID BIGTIME and i hope it sets your franchise back 10years. He better hit 500 for that salary
He's a great pitcher, but not for that cash. His arm has already begun to fall off. only 15 wins last year, you guys OVERPAID BIGTIME and i hope it sets your franchise back 10years. He better hit 500 for that salary
He's a great pitcher, but not for that cash. His arm has already begun to fall off. only 15 wins last year, you guys OVERPAID BIGTIME and i hope it sets your franchise back 10years. He better hit 500 for that salary
You're totally wrong. You have to think in more than just wins. He had 15 wins, for the Twins. If you put him on a team with better offense, in a pitcher friendly park, in the NL, that can easily translate into 3-5 more wins, with a lower ERA. This guy is arguably (a very good argument) the best pitcher in baseball right now.
If you look at his numbers, even with a 15-13 record he was still 5th in the Cy Young voting, clearly he's putting up much better numbers than his win/loss record, but playing for a lousy team. He will thrive for the Mets.
And even if he only does it for as the best pitcher in baseball for 3-4 years, he will still be a very good pitcher , one of the best,(barring injury) for the remainder of his contract. Of course offering a pitcher that many years (and that much money for anyone who plays a sport) is too much. But for what it does to this team for the next 4 years, its totally worth it.
you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
You're totally wrong. You have to think in more than just wins. He had 15 wins, for the Twins. If you put him on a team with better offense, in a pitcher friendly park, in the NL, that can easily translate into 3-5 more wins, with a lower ERA. This guy is arguably (a very good argument) the best pitcher in baseball right now.
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I don't think there is an argument. He is the best pitcher in baseball, and there is not a close second. he's light years beyond therest of the league. He had what most consider to be a bad year for him last year. Won 15 games, with 235 K's and a 3.33 ERA in the AL. I'd take 5 guys who put up those numbers. Now translate those numbers into the weaker NL, and I see 23 wins, 280 K's. The only concern I would have as a Met fan would be that you can't get insurance on a contract like that anymore. The most that can be insured is 3 years and $39 million. If he blows out his arm, than the Mets are on the hook for the rest of his deal. That could cripple the Mets, if it were to ever happen.
I don't think there is an argument. He is the best pitcher in baseball, and there is not a close second. he's light years beyond therest of the league. He had what most consider to be a bad year for him last year. Won 15 games, with 235 K's and a 3.33 ERA in the AL. I'd take 5 guys who put up those numbers. Now translate those numbers into the weaker NL, and I see 23 wins, 280 K's. The only concern I would have as a Met fan would be that you can't get insurance on a contract like that anymore. The most that can be insured is 3 years and $39 million. If he blows out his arm, than the Mets are on the hook for the rest of his deal. That could cripple the Mets, if it were to ever happen.
Agree with all you said about Johan's superiority right now. The one number that concerns lots of people is his HR allowed. It's gone up recently.
But I think that's more a function of pitching in a power-hitter/DH league than a sign of his weakening skill. I mean, if you had to take the mound against Anaheim, Boston, Cleveland, Detriot, and New York several times a year you'd see a rise in your HR allowed too.
By the way, he passed the physical and a presser is scheduled for Wednesday.
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Agree with all you said about Johan's superiority right now. The one number that concerns lots of people is his HR allowed. It's gone up recently.
But I think that's more a function of pitching in a power-hitter/DH league than a sign of his weakening skill. I mean, if you had to take the mound against Anaheim, Boston, Cleveland, Detriot, and New York several times a year you'd see a rise in your HR allowed too.
By the way, he passed the physical and a presser is scheduled for Wednesday.
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he's a fly ball pitcher and that's gonna happen, just gotta hope no one's on base. I don't think he'll enjoy pitching at the Bank. Shea should help him out, it's a pretty big ballpark. What are the dimension's for the Mets new feild?
he's a fly ball pitcher and that's gonna happen, just gotta hope no one's on base. I don't think he'll enjoy pitching at the Bank. Shea should help him out, it's a pretty big ballpark. What are the dimension's for the Mets new feild?
Field Orientation: The four-acre natural turf field will expand from home in a northeasterly direction with the leftfield line stretching northward, and the rightfield line extending eastward.
Right Field Porch: In rightfield there will be a singular deck that will be situated to extend into and over fair territory by eight feet.
Pitcher Friendly: Distinctive asymmetrical outfield walls, along with generous dimensions (LF - 335'; LC - 379'; CF - 408'; RC - 383'; RF - 330') make for a traditional pitcher's park.
Shea Stadium
Left Field - 338
Left Center - 371
Center - 410
Right Center - 371
Right Field - 338
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Field Orientation: The four-acre natural turf field will expand from home in a northeasterly direction with the leftfield line stretching northward, and the rightfield line extending eastward.
Right Field Porch: In rightfield there will be a singular deck that will be situated to extend into and over fair territory by eight feet.
Pitcher Friendly: Distinctive asymmetrical outfield walls, along with generous dimensions (LF - 335'; LC - 379'; CF - 408'; RC - 383'; RF - 330') make for a traditional pitcher's park.
Shea Stadium
Left Field - 338
Left Center - 371
Center - 410
Right Center - 371
Right Field - 338
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thanks rhino, that's a good lookin ballpark. the dimensions didn't change much at all.
thanks rhino, that's a good lookin ballpark. the dimensions didn't change much at all.
Yeah, I'm excited they're building it.
Oddly though, I live in Florida and have never been to Shea. Can't decide whether I should try to go this year just to say I've been. If not this year, I'd definitely go next year to see the new stadium in-play.
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Oddly though, I live in Florida and have never been to Shea. Can't decide whether I should try to go this year just to say I've been. If not this year, I'd definitely go next year to see the new stadium in-play.
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I'm also glad to see that the dimensions haven't changed significantly. I like the Mets playing in a pitcher's park.
And rhinomagic, you should go this year. Just to be where their championships took place.
And to see a pretty ugly ballpark.
you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
I'm also glad to see that the dimensions haven't changed significantly. I like the Mets playing in a pitcher's park.
And rhinomagic, you should go this year. Just to be where their championships took place.
And to see a pretty ugly ballpark.
You going to be there to share a dog and a beer with a fellow PJ fan and his wife? Maybe we can have a PJ/Mets Fans hang-out to celebrate the occasion.
I know Shea is ugly, but I kinda want to see the dump in person. I've watched countless games on tv the last 23 seasons. I guess I should start making plans.
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You going to be there to share a dog and a beer with a fellow PJ fan and his wife? Maybe we can have a PJ/Mets Fans hang-out to celebrate the occasion.
I know Shea is ugly, but I kinda want to see the dump in person. I've watched countless games on tv the last 23 seasons. I guess I should start making plans.
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Hell yea. I would be totally down to a PJ/Mets fan hang out at a game. I only made it to four games last summer, which is a down year for me. But I hope to make it to many more.
And yea, it is a dump, but its our dump and so ya' gotta love it.
you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
Hell yea. I would be totally down to a PJ/Mets fan hang out at a game. I only made it to four games last summer, which is a down year for me. But I hope to make it to many more.
And yea, it is a dump, but its our dump and so ya' gotta love it.
OK. Which game?
Mrs. Rhinomagic and I are interested in seeing Shea, Yankee, and Fenway all in one trip. We'd have to pick a week or weekend in which all three are playing home games.
And we have to schedule around Bonnaroo now, apparently.
You ever go to Spring Training in Port St. Lucie? Great Mets atmosphere there.
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Mrs. Rhinomagic and I are interested in seeing Shea, Yankee, and Fenway all in one trip. We'd have to pick a week or weekend in which all three are playing home games.
And we have to schedule around Bonnaroo now, apparently.
You ever go to Spring Training in Port St. Lucie? Great Mets atmosphere there.
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Any date that works well for you that I'm around for I'd be more than happy to go to. I'll also pm Metsy to see what he thinks. I'd love to be able to see you Johan pitch, but I'd also just be happy to go to a game.
you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
i know mets fans and braves fan clash all the time..im a braves fan... but i dont think you can deny the braves are going to make it interesting this year.... should be an awesome season
and by awesome i mean
Escobar
Johnson
Jones
Tex
McCann
Francoeur
Diaz
Kotsay
i know mets fans and braves fan clash all the time..im a braves fan... but i dont think you can deny the braves are going to make it interesting this year.... should be an awesome season
and by awesome i mean
Escobar
Johnson
Jones
Tex
McCann
Francoeur
Diaz
Kotsay
smoltz
hudson
hampton
glavine
james
carlisle
NL East has three tough teams. It should be interesting.
Rhino, I've been talking to Metsy and he's definitely in too. I think when you figure out what works best for you we should definitely make a post about a Mets fan/PJ fan meet up at a game, and maybe go out afterwards.
you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
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we already bought a division title a few years ago.
and who gives a fuck anyhow? thats the default argument of jealous losers ... "you bought your championship." yea and it's about fucking time.
First of all, respect to you for being a Dodgers fan for a long-time. It's got to be tough when the organization lets products of their draft and farm system walk or trades them away. They had so many consecutive Rookies of the Year that prove how good their player development is. But what has it gotten them? A couple of trips to the playoffs in the past 10 years and zero WS titles in 20 years. That's what.
Second, you can point fingers all you want about free agency and high payrolls usually being the mark of the elite teams, but the truth is that the game of baseball has evolved and this is our product. We may not like that the best players go to the highest bidders, but that's what we have on our hands. I'm not a fan of this system, but my favorite team's ownership happens to have the resources to compete in this system. I'm glad they do. Otherwise, the Mets would be the Royals or the Pirates or the Rays. I refuse to apologize or try to sooth people's feelings about this Santana deal. We won the derby, we're paying the piper, and the rest of you have to live with what might have been.
Thirdly and last of all, your criticisms that those teams listed above "do not have the patience to develop a young player into a star" are poorly researched. The Mets have Wright and Reyes, two guys that are becoming fixtures on the all-star team. The Yankees, as Hellfish pointed out, developed the core of their championship runs from '96-'00 from within. The Red Sox just debuted three or four really good players from their minor leagues last season: Pedroia (ROY), Ellsbury, Buchholz, Lester (return from cancer).
In sum, either jump on the bandwagon (which your team has done before: Kevin Brown or Jeff Kent ring a bell?) or get out of the way. Stop bagging on the Mets for getting this player just because your team didn't have the courage to go for it. I mean, they have the prospects/future stars, right? If your team wants to be a big boy--they ARE the Dodgers, for cryin' out loud--they need to start playing ball like big boys. Otherwise, your prized farm products will be sitting at home watching the D'backs, Rockies, or Padres represent the West every year in the postseason.
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Atlanta & Birmingham 1998
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Tampa 2003
Kissimmee 2004
New York City (x 2) 2008
East Troy (x 2) 2011
Chicago & New Orleans 2013
Hampton, Raleigh, Boston 2016
Baltimore 2020
Louisville 2022
Philadelphia & Baltimore 2024
Can't wait for pitchers and catchers to report later this month.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/02/01/mets.santana.official/index.html
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Hampton, Raleigh, Boston 2016
Baltimore 2020
Louisville 2022
Philadelphia & Baltimore 2024
You can't buy a championship. It's all about chemistry, and without chemistry comes a collapse. Y'all do have a solid team though. It will be interesting to see how everything plays out with injuries, who performs higher than expected, and who plays like shiat. I can't wait for the season to start!!
Does taking back an old player for a real high salary count as trying to buy a championship or is that counted as a homegrown player? Seriously.
Dont Believe The Hype
Go Yankees!
I was actually thinking more along the lines of Tom Glavine going back to the Braves, but I think that Pettite is another perfect example of what I was thinking about. I'm not sure how I would look at them, not that it really makes a big difference as long as the fans except that player.
I'd definitely consider Mo to be a homegrown Yankee considering he never pitched anywhere else.
Or if the entire offense decides not to hit, ever.
i smell a phillies phan.
You're totally wrong. You have to think in more than just wins. He had 15 wins, for the Twins. If you put him on a team with better offense, in a pitcher friendly park, in the NL, that can easily translate into 3-5 more wins, with a lower ERA. This guy is arguably (a very good argument) the best pitcher in baseball right now.
If you look at his numbers, even with a 15-13 record he was still 5th in the Cy Young voting, clearly he's putting up much better numbers than his win/loss record, but playing for a lousy team. He will thrive for the Mets.
And even if he only does it for as the best pitcher in baseball for 3-4 years, he will still be a very good pitcher , one of the best,(barring injury) for the remainder of his contract. Of course offering a pitcher that many years (and that much money for anyone who plays a sport) is too much. But for what it does to this team for the next 4 years, its totally worth it.
Yea, we'll see how big he talks after Johan tears them apart.
Agree with all you said about Johan's superiority right now. The one number that concerns lots of people is his HR allowed. It's gone up recently.
But I think that's more a function of pitching in a power-hitter/DH league than a sign of his weakening skill. I mean, if you had to take the mound against Anaheim, Boston, Cleveland, Detriot, and New York several times a year you'd see a rise in your HR allowed too.
By the way, he passed the physical and a presser is scheduled for Wednesday.
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New Orleans 1995
Fort Lauderdale 1996
Atlanta & Birmingham 1998
New Orleans 2000
Tampa 2003
Kissimmee 2004
New York City (x 2) 2008
East Troy (x 2) 2011
Chicago & New Orleans 2013
Hampton, Raleigh, Boston 2016
Baltimore 2020
Louisville 2022
Philadelphia & Baltimore 2024
he's a fly ball pitcher and that's gonna happen, just gotta hope no one's on base. I don't think he'll enjoy pitching at the Bank. Shea should help him out, it's a pretty big ballpark. What are the dimension's for the Mets new feild?
CitiField overview from http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/nym/ballpark/citifield_overview.jsp :
Field Orientation: The four-acre natural turf field will expand from home in a northeasterly direction with the leftfield line stretching northward, and the rightfield line extending eastward.
Right Field Porch: In rightfield there will be a singular deck that will be situated to extend into and over fair territory by eight feet.
Pitcher Friendly: Distinctive asymmetrical outfield walls, along with generous dimensions (LF - 335'; LC - 379'; CF - 408'; RC - 383'; RF - 330') make for a traditional pitcher's park.
Shea Stadium
Left Field - 338
Left Center - 371
Center - 410
Right Center - 371
Right Field - 338
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New Orleans 1995
Fort Lauderdale 1996
Atlanta & Birmingham 1998
New Orleans 2000
Tampa 2003
Kissimmee 2004
New York City (x 2) 2008
East Troy (x 2) 2011
Chicago & New Orleans 2013
Hampton, Raleigh, Boston 2016
Baltimore 2020
Louisville 2022
Philadelphia & Baltimore 2024
thanks rhino, that's a good lookin ballpark. the dimensions didn't change much at all.
Yeah, I'm excited they're building it.
Oddly though, I live in Florida and have never been to Shea. Can't decide whether I should try to go this year just to say I've been. If not this year, I'd definitely go next year to see the new stadium in-play.
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New Orleans 1995
Fort Lauderdale 1996
Atlanta & Birmingham 1998
New Orleans 2000
Tampa 2003
Kissimmee 2004
New York City (x 2) 2008
East Troy (x 2) 2011
Chicago & New Orleans 2013
Hampton, Raleigh, Boston 2016
Baltimore 2020
Louisville 2022
Philadelphia & Baltimore 2024
And rhinomagic, you should go this year. Just to be where their championships took place.
And to see a pretty ugly ballpark.
You going to be there to share a dog and a beer with a fellow PJ fan and his wife? Maybe we can have a PJ/Mets Fans hang-out to celebrate the occasion.
I know Shea is ugly, but I kinda want to see the dump in person. I've watched countless games on tv the last 23 seasons. I guess I should start making plans.
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New Orleans 1995
Fort Lauderdale 1996
Atlanta & Birmingham 1998
New Orleans 2000
Tampa 2003
Kissimmee 2004
New York City (x 2) 2008
East Troy (x 2) 2011
Chicago & New Orleans 2013
Hampton, Raleigh, Boston 2016
Baltimore 2020
Louisville 2022
Philadelphia & Baltimore 2024
Hell yea. I would be totally down to a PJ/Mets fan hang out at a game. I only made it to four games last summer, which is a down year for me. But I hope to make it to many more.
And yea, it is a dump, but its our dump and so ya' gotta love it.
OK. Which game?
Mrs. Rhinomagic and I are interested in seeing Shea, Yankee, and Fenway all in one trip. We'd have to pick a week or weekend in which all three are playing home games.
And we have to schedule around Bonnaroo now, apparently.
You ever go to Spring Training in Port St. Lucie? Great Mets atmosphere there.
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New Orleans 1995
Fort Lauderdale 1996
Atlanta & Birmingham 1998
New Orleans 2000
Tampa 2003
Kissimmee 2004
New York City (x 2) 2008
East Troy (x 2) 2011
Chicago & New Orleans 2013
Hampton, Raleigh, Boston 2016
Baltimore 2020
Louisville 2022
Philadelphia & Baltimore 2024
Any date that works well for you that I'm around for I'd be more than happy to go to. I'll also pm Metsy to see what he thinks. I'd love to be able to see you Johan pitch, but I'd also just be happy to go to a game.
and by awesome i mean
Escobar
Johnson
Jones
Tex
McCann
Francoeur
Diaz
Kotsay
smoltz
hudson
hampton
glavine
james
carlisle
NL East has three tough teams. It should be interesting.
Rhino, I've been talking to Metsy and he's definitely in too. I think when you figure out what works best for you we should definitely make a post about a Mets fan/PJ fan meet up at a game, and maybe go out afterwards.