'Sopranos' final season to begin April 8

eddies grrl

culot4 wrote:

Yeah tonights episode was a little stale

i think last night was sort of a set-up episode for future crazy shit that's gonna hit the fan. i think it's understood that vito has or will kill himself, and i get the impression that before the end of the season, christopher is going to rise to greater power in the family. i know he's a captain, but tony definitely sees him as a threat, and i think he sees himself as a threat to tony as well. he's got ambition, balls and he's reckless enough that he just might make a crazy play to "overthrow" the big guy. especially if tony continues to look weak. chris could make it seem like he's doing it for the family, like he's rescuing them from embarassment by stepping up to the plate if/when tony falters.

even though tony beat up that (fucking HOTTTTTTT, btw...) driver kid, i think in the eyes of the men, he's still got a long way to go to get back into the top dog position. look how they all went about their business when he arrived. i mean, after the bialy & coffee fuss, that was it. they didn't seem all that impressed with his presence.

i'll be interested to see how the rusty hit plays out, too. that's got some serious political implications if it gets connected to tony's crew.

privatejoker22

eddie's grrl wrote:

even though tony beat up that (fucking HOTTTTTTT, btw...) driver kid, i think in the eyes of the men, he's still got a long way to go to get back into the top dog position. look how they all went about their business when he arrived. i mean, after the bialy & coffee fuss, that was it. they didn't seem all that impressed with his presence.

That was the point of beating that kid up. The crew was not showing him any respect, the scene that you speak of took place before Tony pounded the youngster. In that final scene he sized up all the men, and decided to start something with the youngest/strongest male. That will set him as the alpha male again.

I don't think Vito is a suicide. It looks to me like he's going to try to keep these guys quiet. I don't think he's ready to quit.

eddies grrl

privatejoker22 wrote:

That was the point of beating that kid up. The crew was not showing him any respect, the scene that you speak of took place before Tony pounded the youngster. In that final scene he sized up all the men, and decided to start something with the youngest/strongest male. That will set him as the alpha male again.

I don't think Vito is a suicide. It looks to me like he's going to try to keep these guys quiet. I don't think he's ready to quit.

i realize the order of the scenes. my point is that i don;t think the ass-kicking changed anything, not really. also, the fact that it made him physically ill afterwards tells me that he's not all that comfortable with the whole scene, and maybe he even feels like a fraud.

johnnyd900

eddie's grrl wrote:

i realize the order of the scenes. my point is that i don;t think the ass-kicking changed anything, not really. also, the fact that it made him physically ill afterwards tells me that he's not all that comfortable with the whole scene, and maybe he even feels like a fraud.

I was under the impression that he became ill because of the physical exertion. I originally thought that it was because he was uncomfortable with what he did, but when he was at the sink inbetween puking, he was smiling at himself in the mirror like he was pleased with what he just did, like he proved he's still got it, especially since he was so fixated on the whole losing muscle all episode.

Bathgate66

I agree Tony had to prove that not only to all his cronies, but to himself also. ( smiling in the mirror and all that )

I think Vito may have already commited suicide, we just havent seen it yet or he hasnt been discovered yet. Why would he check into a hotel if he was gonna " off " that guy Sal ? The phonecall to Silvio @ 3am to see if they had leaked him being dressed like a Village People member at the gay bar ,...
At Satriales, they said " a few days " or " couple of days " since anyone had heard from him. I guess we will see next week,..


How about Meadow ?
I believe they are setting it up that she may be getting involved one way or another in the mob lifestyle . Perhaps she will pursue law school, and be involved that way - but however Chase decides to write it in,...she clearly wasnt happy at the Government when they went inside to Johnny Sacks daughter Alegras wedding .
"..... The Government did that .......? "


I thought last night was a decent episode . Like someone mentioned earlier- theyre setting up more events to unfold .

privatejoker22

eddie's grrl wrote:

i realize the order of the scenes. my point is that i don;t think the ass-kicking changed anything, not really. also, the fact that it made him physically ill afterwards tells me that he's not all that comfortable with the whole scene, and maybe he even feels like a fraud.

I think the vomit was from the effort it took out of him, not his distaste for the situation. His smile said it all, it must have felt good for Tony to beat up a young buck like that. It showed that he's still got it. None of the crew saw him afterwards, all they saw was Tony kick a kids' ass that all of them would have trouble with. Any way you slice it, that was impressive.

Bathgate66

In all reality of the scenario-
who on earth is going to fight back against :

1 ) a guy just out of the hospital( who cant even bend down to take off his shoes let alone walk a flight of stairs without hyperventilating )
2 ) the " skip " ?


I dont think anyone who wants to stick around .......:rolleyes:

binauralsounds

As my wife pointed out, which me being a dumb ass and not noticing, it appeared tony was pukin Blood!

moster78

binauralsounds wrote:

As my wife pointed out, which me being a dumb ass and not noticing, it appeared tony was pukin Blood!

It did look a little pinkish. Its been awhile since I've had the joy of vomiting, so I have no basis for comparison.

mookie d

my favorite exchange was

chris: so it's like part 1?
tony: no, if it was like part 1 i'd be asking HIM for something.
chris: then ask him to not do this (the hit)...


if you think vito being a fag isn't coming out you're crazy. whether he kills himself or not that ship has sailed. in fact, the word was probably out before those two got to the car.

also, johnny sack is gonna get shanked. you can bank on it. phil and the guys are getting nervous.

finally, i can't see chris turning on tony. he owes too much to him to do it. paulie...maybe. vito...def, if he didn't off himself. anyways, i think this episode was setting up the fireworks for the next episode.

eddies grrl

privatejoker22 wrote:

I think the vomit was from the effort it took out of him, not his distaste for the situation. His smile said it all, it must have felt good for Tony to beat up a young buck like that. It showed that he's still got it. None of the crew saw him afterwards, all they saw was Tony kick a kids' ass that all of them would have trouble with. Any way you slice it, that was impressive.

i disagree. it think it looked like exactly what it was, an act of desperation by a guy who's power is in question. i know they didn't see him throw up, i never said they did. i just think they were left with the impression that he is feeling like he's lost some control over things.

eddies grrl

Bathgate66 wrote:

I agree Tony had to prove that not only to all his cronies, but to himself also. ( smiling in the mirror and all that )

I think Vito may have already commited suicide, we just havent seen it yet or he hasnt been discovered yet. Why would he check into a hotel if he was gonna " off " that guy Sal ? The phonecall to Silvio @ 3am to see if they had leaked him being dressed like a Village People member at the gay bar ,...
At Satriales, they said " a few days " or " couple of days " since anyone had heard from him. I guess we will see next week,..


How about Meadow ?
I believe they are setting it up that she may be getting involved one way or another in the mob lifestyle . Perhaps she will pursue law school, and be involved that way - but however Chase decides to write it in,...she clearly wasnt happy at the Government when they went inside to Johnny Sacks daughter Alegras wedding .
"..... The Government did that .......? "


I thought last night was a decent episode . Like someone mentioned earlier- theyre setting up more events to unfold .

I think he's just doing what Melfi suggested he do- acting "as if". As if he's really "back", in charge, the same guy he was before, etc. It's all an act, for now.

I think Vito's dead but soon everyone will know about his secret,
irregardless...

I think that Meadow will pursue the law degree and out of love and concern for her father will become the family's consigliere.

eddies grrl

mookie d wrote:

my favorite exchange was

chris: so it's like part 1?
tony: no, if it was like part 1 i'd be asking HIM for something.
chris: then ask him to not do this (the hit)...

it's funny how they never directly refer to the godfather movies by name. like, we're LIVING it, why talk about it??

bostonlou

moster78 wrote:

It did look a little pinkish. Its been awhile since I've had the joy of vomiting, so I have no basis for comparison.

you guys need to get an HDTV... that shit was bright red coming out of tony

eddies grrl

bostonlou wrote:

you guys need to get an HDTV... that shit was bright red coming out of tony

helloooooooo... he's italian. prolly just last night's spaghetti & meatballs. :eek: plus a bit of blood.

PissBottleMan

Last night's episode made me realize something:

They're extremely concerned about family and loyalty, but there are a lot of insecure people in that line of work.

PBM

bostonlou

eddie's grrl wrote:

helloooooooo... he's italian. prolly just last night's spaghetti & meatballs. :eek: plus a bit of blood.

you're right... it may have just been carmelas gravy


ewww... carmelas gravy... nasty




did she get fake boobs? they were bouncing on the way out of the bathroom... and i know she had cancer and one or both removed?? not trying to be funny here... cancer is not amusing... just curious

eddies grrl

bostonlou wrote:

you're right... it may have just been carmelas gravy


ewww... carmelas gravy... nasty




did she get fake boobs? they were bouncing on the way out of the bathroom... and i know she had cancer and one or both removed?? not trying to be funny here... cancer is not amusing... just curious

who, edie falco? i didn't know that!

bostonlou

eddie's grrl wrote:

who, edie falco? i didn't know that!

yes in 2003

http://cancer.about.com/od/celebritytributes/a/famousbreastcan.htm

eddies grrl

bostonlou wrote:

yes in 2003

http://cancer.about.com/od/celebritytributes/a/famousbreastcan.htm

huh, i had no idea. she's such a great actress, i love her.

i dunno, maybe post-op she had them replaced, but perkier! i know I would. wtf.