'Sopranos' final season to begin April 8

norm

The Juggler said:

...never trust a man who calls himself "danger"

what if it's his middle name?

JimmyV

It was one of the worst endings of all time when it originally aired. If he is truly not dead then it just became even worse.

Indifference71

I've always thought he lived. The thing that rarely gets brought up is that in the story lines at that time, there was no one left that was after Tony. He had just settled everything with the New York guys. Obviously David Chase accomplished what he intended to do since people are still talking about this 7 years later...

JimmyV

I agree that there was no one left to kill him and that is a big reason why I so hated the ending. I thought it was poor storytelling and still do. Regardless of what Chase did or didn't say, I still think he got killed, and the point was that you never see it coming. That is fine for Tony Soprano, but we as an audience deserved better. Meaning, we deserved at least a likely suspect or two.

I also agree, though, that since we are still talking about it seven years later that does constitute some sort of success. No one is discussing, say, the West Wing finale, which was handled much better and still stands up all these years later. The Sopranos ending lives on because it was so bad, but it does live on. IMO.

MayDay10

he could have had aliens abduct him and people would be talking about it.


I just thought it was a very poorly conceived ending, and the last 4 seasons didnt take me anywhere. I figured/was hoping he was going to paint himself into a corner and be seeing increasingly intense heat from many directions and the last episode would be intense and at the end he would be shot and you wouldnt know exactly who it was (Christopher, Pauly, NYC mob, Carmella, Feds, etc). Like a who shot JR or who shot Burns thing but much more epic... and you can look back and see many clues to point in whatever direction.

1st 2 seasons were gold, but after that it is a very overrated show IMO. It just never really went anywhere, and was too full of itself/too cerebral.

The Juggler

guys...read the 2nd article norm posted. chase never said he lived...or at least the reporter interpreted it wrong.

to me the first 2 seasons were 2 of the best seasons in television history. they set the bar as high as it could have been set with them so naturally people would be disappointed because it's virtually impossible to consistently be that good from start to finish (only 2 shows that almost pulled that off, to me would be the wire and breaking bad). but i enjoyed the 3rd season even though it wasn't as good. 4 and 5 lost a lot of people because they delved more deeply into family and symbolism and subtext, etc etc etc, even though a vast majority of their fans just wanted a show about the mob. but it was more than just a mob show.

the one season i didn't like was 6 part 1. there was no need to devote that much time to vito and his gay escapades. the coma stuff was really interesting though. i liked the last season, but part of what made that show great (their not giving a shit about killing off main characters) also sort of lead to it's downfall because they were also a lot of the more interesting characters and they were mostly gone by the end....especially christopher. i wish he got a better send off.

as for the finale, i liked the ambiguity of it. no other show still has people talking about it's finale so many years after it aired. and i love all the different theories people have about it.



and to indifference----i think paulie may have had a reason to go after tony. he was basically paranoid that tony had it in for him and only reluctantly accepted that "promotion" in the last episode after almost begging tony not to give it to him.

Last-12-Exit

*****Spoiler*****

I always thought that Tony was going to kill Christopher, I just thought they way he did it was lame.

Jason P

norm

personally, i love the ending...i thought it was perfect

but it's made even more enjoyable by people's reaction to it...i guess a lot of you need closure, huh )

PJ_Soul

Wish I'd never read it. I preferred thinking him and his whole family were gunned down when it went black (not sure why, lol).

MayDay10

norm said:

personally, i love the ending...i thought it was perfect

but it's made even more enjoyable by people's reaction to it...i guess a lot of you need closure, huh )

I dont know. Maybe some sort of ending...

abruptly cutting the film early so we dont know whether something happened or not, what that is that happened if something happened, and if something happened, who did the thing that happened.

Its incredibly lame for people who hung in there for 6 seasons.

Jason P

Add in the fact that millions of people thought their Tivo fucked up.

Last-12-Exit

I just watched the season 2 finale. Starting with Tonys dream when he's talking to the fish to where they dump pussys body over the edge of that boat may be the best 20 minutes in television history.

dimitrispearljam

justr finished last episode of last season...love the show....
ending was a suprise..but i like left it that way ended..

The Juggler

dimitrispearljam said:

justr finished last episode of last season...love the show....
ending was a suprise..but i like left it that way ended..

don't stop believing.....