The 2008 New York Yankees

Fighting Hellfish

my Dad mentioned those 2 today. i pretended to know what he was talking about

xavier mcdaniel

i knew exactly what he was talking about. i just finished re-reading a book about the cleveland indians. he also mentioned when ryan thompson hit a liner back to bryce florie at fenway park in 2000.

Fighting Hellfish

Thompson/Florie I remember, vaguely. Was Thompson a Yankee at that point?

xavier mcdaniel

it was late 2000. here's the details (fourth graph down)

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F00EFDB1139F93AA3575AC0A9669C8B63&scp=2&sq=ryan+thompson+new+york+yankees&st=nyt

Fighting Hellfish

a couple of telling paragraphs in that story. Didn't mean much then, but now, different story

The 122nd and final pitch thrown by Roger Clemens tonight was a 96 mile-an-hour fastball, and when Carl Everett swung and missed, Clemens glared briefly at the Red Sox center fielder before strolling toward the Yankees' dugout. Somebody should have rolled out a carpet in his path.

The Red Sox went 0 for 5 with runners in scoring position tonight; in Clemens's 15 starts since June 9, opposing hitters are 9 for 88 (.102) with runners in scoring position. ''He's been like a locomotive,'' said Joe Torre, the Yankees' manager. ''He's gotten stronger and stronger.''

xavier mcdaniel

Fighting Hellfish wrote:

a couple of telling paragraphs in that story. Didn't mean much then, but now, different story

The 122nd and final pitch thrown by Roger Clemens tonight was a 96 mile-an-hour fastball, and when Carl Everett swung and missed, Clemens glared briefly at the Red Sox center fielder before strolling toward the Yankees' dugout. Somebody should have rolled out a carpet in his path.

The Red Sox went 0 for 5 with runners in scoring position tonight; in Clemens's 15 starts since June 9, opposing hitters are 9 for 88 (.102) with runners in scoring position. ''He's been like a locomotive,'' said Joe Torre, the Yankees' manager. ''He's gotten stronger and stronger.''

clemens was 38 then. don't know many pitchers still throwing that hard that late in the game without any help. and boy carl everett, what a crazy guy he is. i still remember when he flipped out against that umpire when they played against the mets one year.

Champagne Breakfast

igotid88 wrote:

o yea i forgot to mention it's time warner also. this past month sucked.

I've had the same problems. I actually could not watch YES in HD the past feew days. It would freeze or just not work. I've had Time Warner for 1 month now and it has been a complete disaster to say the least. I've tried numerous times to switch providers but my building is only wired for shit TW.
They are a disgrace.

Champagne Breakfast

Sooooooo many double plays in Minny

rival.

Champagne Breakfast wrote:

Sooooooo many double plays in Minny

matsui's in the 9th last night was a back breaker. i know his bat has been hot lately, but i thought they would have bunted arod over to 2nd.

igotid88

I had a feeling Joba was gonna throw alot of pitches in the 1st inning. Don't tell me the Yankees can't score on a leadoff triple.

igotid88

igotid88 wrote:

I had a feeling Joba was gonna throw alot of pitches in the 1st inning. Don't tell me the Yankees can't score on a leadoff triple.

Thank you Matsui. Saw that stat the A-Rod doesn't have a homer against Halladay in 50 at bats.

igotid88

Giambi goes the other way!! Giambi goes the other way!!

rival.

igotid88 wrote:

Giambi goes the other way!! Giambi goes the other way!!

my heart! chest pains!

Allie

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

he also mentioned when ryan thompson hit a liner back to bryce florie at fenway park in 2000.

I was watching that game when it happened. It was awful.


as for this ball game, blech. Blech.

Allie

Fighting Hellfish wrote:

so, who else thought that Blackburn was dead, or at best unconscious, when Abreu hit him? When his head flopped to the ground, and then both arms flopped also, I thought for sure it was lights out for him

I only saw the replay and he is very fortunate, it could have been so much worse. It looked so awful though. And poor bobby, I wanted to give him a hug. He was so shaken up.

rival.

soooooo..... what was the point of joba throwing only two innings?

thought they had him pitch 2 innings in relief for the past 3 weeks to gear him up to pitch LONGER as a starter.....????????

put him back in the pen.

igotid88

singularity wrote:

soooooo..... what was the point of joba throwing only two innings?

thought they had him pitch 2 innings in relief for the past 3 weeks to gear him up to pitch LONGER as a starter.....????????

put him back in the pen.

He was limited to 65-75 pitches. They were hoping he would go 4 innings. But since he's a strikeout pitcher. He's gonna throw alot of pitches. And the Umpire was calling the close one's balls. Baby steps. He threw 64 today I think. Next start it'll be 75-80.

tvismyfriend

singularity wrote:

soooooo..... what was the point of joba throwing only two innings?

thought they had him pitch 2 innings in relief for the past 3 weeks to gear him up to pitch LONGER as a starter.....????????

put him back in the pen.

Supposably they only wanted him to throw about 70 pitches. If he didn't have such a rough first inning he probably would've went four or five.

xavier mcdaniel

he threw 38 in the first inning, reached full counts on four of the first seven hitters.

igotid88

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

he threw 38 in the first inning, reached full counts on four of the first seven hitters.

when he walked the first batter. i knew it was gonna be a short outing. I hope Ramirez's outing doesn't make him lose confidence. I fell asleep. So I didn't see it. And of course my cable problems.

Fighting Hellfish

Joba had a touch of Farnsworth Syndrome tonight. All season, really, but it festered tonight. The worst was listening to Waldman try and make excuses for him about butterflies, and how hard it is to throw strikes in the first inning. If you can throw strikes in the 8th inning, you can throw strikes in the 1st inning. he stunk up the joint tonight, plain and simple. he certainly doesn't need Sterling and Waldman making excuses for him

xavier mcdaniel

i heard one cut of the broadcast and sterling was saying how toronto's first run was the softest run you'll ever see. jeez, how bout pointing out the great at-bat by stewart that set it up.

also, it was kind of amusing to see all the hype for this and roy halladay's six gritty innings fly under the radar.

Fighting Hellfish

6 innings is practically a half day at the office for Halladay. He's thrown 4 or 5 complete games already this year. The sad part is most of them have been losses. they don't make them like Ol' Doc anymore. Imagine if he could have stayed healthy his whole career

igotid88

Fighting Hellfish wrote:

Joba had a touch of Farnsworth Syndrome tonight. All season, really, but it festered tonight. The worst was listening to Waldman try and make excuses for him about butterflies, and how hard it is to throw strikes in the first inning. If you can throw strikes in the 8th inning, you can throw strikes in the 1st inning. he stunk up the joint tonight, plain and simple. he certainly doesn't need Sterling and Waldman making excuses for him

I think the Blue Jay's plan was to take pitches. And the ump from the little I was able to see. Had a tight strike zone. Might be wrong. But his next start is against the Royals. So hopefully it will be better. But you can't expect too much too quick. Maybe his third start will be a better look.

xavier mcdaniel

Fighting Hellfish wrote:

6 innings is practically a half day at the office for Halladay. He's thrown 4 or 5 complete games already this year. The sad part is most of them have been losses. they don't make them like Ol' Doc anymore. Imagine if he could have stayed healthy his whole career

i figured if the jays added on, they'd take him out. he was at 102 through six. but i would have found it hard to believe that gibbons would bring armando benitez into a one-run game.

Fighting Hellfish

igotid88 wrote:

I think thr Blue Jay's plan was to take pitches. And the ump from the little I was able to see. Had a tight strike zone. Might be wrong. But his next start is against the Royals. So hopefully it will be better. But you can't expect too much too quick. Maybe his third start will be a better look.

I figured the Jays would try that. That's very easy to defend against though. Strike 1, every batter. Especially when you have overpowering stuff. I'm not getting down on the guy though. I think he'll be fine, though I do think he hasn't been great since he went home for a week to be with his father. He's been very good since returning, but hasn't been the dominant Joba.

Fighting Hellfish

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

i figured if the jays added on, they'd take him out. he was at 102 through six. but i would have found it hard to believe that gibbons would bring armando benitez into a one-run game.

I just looked up his stats. Before tonight, he had made 11 starts, and thrown 89 innings, 2 of which came in a relief appearance. 5 complete games. Averaging a hair under 8 innings per start. The only reason I know so much (not the stats, had to look thsoe up) is because I traded Carlos Beltran to my brother in law for Halladay in a rotisserie keeper league over the winter

xavier mcdaniel

Fighting Hellfish wrote:

I just looked up his stats. Before tonight, he had made 11 starts, and thrown 89 innings, 2 of which came in a relief appearance. 5 complete games. Averaging a hair under 8 innings per start. The only reason I know so much (not the stats, had to look thsoe up) is because I traded Carlos Beltran to my brother in law for Halladay in a rotisserie keeper league over the winter

jeez, that's amazing, he's also one the quickest pitchers in the game. i know they tell pitchers to slow the game down when guys are on, but joba was incredibly slow with guys on and perhaps that led to some overthrowing since he might have been thinking more in between pitches.

Champagne Breakfast

Not to be a downer,...but I'm starting to think this squad is just not very good this year. Plain and simple. They often just seem so flat and lifeless(excpet for Joba & Girardi). The damn O's are more energetic and exciting to watch. The strange part is I really do think they have the right manager in Girardi. It may just be they now need a Girardi team which they dont have THIS year. Maybe a step back year in order to take a big step forward.

rearviewmiror

A standing ovation? Man that was weird.