Not me. I'm against murder and I'd rather die for my beliefs than live and violate them.
In your philosophy, does killing a human always amount to murder? Even if the person you shot was raping your wife or harming your children? Would that be murder?
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I think I understand the sentiment being expressed. I've considered purchasing a firearm in the past for personal protection, but I've never been able to convince myself that it is fully necessary. It's a topic I have spent some time rolling around in my head, and one I don't think I have fully come to my own conclusion on.
I grew up hunting (haven't done it in like 15 years), so guns were never a foreign thing to me. About 10 years ago when I got out of college and was living on my own in a city, I bought a handgun for piece of mind. Now married with a family, I am sort of glad that I have it. I'm not thinking a marshal law or "Red Dawn" thing is going to happen, and it's locked away and I haven't seen it for a long time, but I know that it's there.
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The real reason to buy a gun now is that, if elected, Obama and his libtard buddies are ready to evicerate your Second Amendment Rights.
That's why you should buy a gun now. Bury it in your yard if you have to.
Gimme a break with the dramatics... No one is taking away the second amendment.
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It doesn't hurt to have a gun, just learn how to use it and become comfortable with it. If you have children be responsible.
You may never have to use one and that's fine. Not too many people actually want to have to use a gun on another human being.
The worst thing you can do is to "hide" a gun away from kids.
really? cos in the US alone 4 kids die per day as a result of playing with their daddy's penis... sorry i mean gun.... I say paint them yellow and put them into fruit bowls next to the bananas.. have a wee game with the kids of 'guess which one is the gun?', if they're going to shoot each other they may as well have a game out of it.
'the worst thing you can do'... hmmmm surely the worst thing you can do is leave the gun next to the TV, make them play Grand Theft Auto for 12 hours straight, watch all 3 Rambo movies back to back, give them 4 litres of Red Bull, turn them around 16 times and then point them gun and say 'hey remember that jock at school who gave you a wedgie... go find!!!' I fear that would be worse.
I took my kids up the forest last Sunday, and showed them where fish live, trees grow, had a play on the death slide, ran around in the trees and played some games... you take yours to a gun range? to show them how to kill?
its really no wonder the worlds fucked.. i'm surprised its only 4 kids a day who die..
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
In your philosophy, does killing a human always amount to murder? Even if the person you shot was raping your wife or harming your children? Would that be murder?
Probably not always, but I'd rather err on the side of not killing someone.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Am I right in thinking that some of you think that the minute there's a financial crisis the answer is to buy a gun?
I think it's fuckin' scary that America is such a powerful nation.
No, I think it's more of a the minute the government takes extensive measures to control a population prone to over reaction and occasional poor judgment the answer might be to buy a gun.
surely, someone who would lament Americans wanting to own guns would also lament the pitiful job the American government does in times of crisis, yes?
No.. I will not be buying a gun.. the thought NEVER has entered my mind.
what exactly do you feel a gun is going to protect you from?
Do you honestly think it is going to come to that? And for that matter.. you are going to shoot someone if they.. what.. steal your box of Fruit Loops?
Sorry.. I would rather die than live in a world like that. Just me and my opinion.
Sorry, like I said before.. if that was the world we lived in ~ go ahead kill me.. would rather not be alive than have to decide between a bologna sandwich and the life of another human.
+1
I used to own a gun for protection. Then one day I remembered, "Oh, wait, I don't ever want to kill anyone" and I got rid of it.
Probably not always, but I'd rather err on the side of not killing someone.
Fair enough. I'd rather not shoot anyone, but if a person tries to harm my family or someone I care about, that person is getting taken out one way or another. I have no ethical qualms with hurting or killing someone if they put me in a situation where I have to save someone I love.
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Fair enough. I'd rather not shoot anyone, but if a person tries to harm my family or someone I care about, that person is getting taken out one way or another. I have no ethical qualms with hurting or killing someone if they put me in a situation where I have to save someone I love.
I'd have to be 100% sure the person was actually murdering someone before I'd use lethal force...and even then as a last resort.
After all, the penalty for assault isn't death (and I do not believe in the death penalty anyway).
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
From your posts, you seem to be female. I apologize if I am wrong, but it just seems that way. You talk about your kids and you have a generally hyper-empathetical view.
Men are born with a sense of obligation to protect his family. That's something we can't shake. It comes from centuries of having to live that way. Sorry.
Yes I am a female and proud to be.
I really do not know how to take the whole "hyper-empathetical view" comment.. but I will take it as a compliment, as I think having empathy is one of the best qualities a person can have.
Please do not give me the whole arguement that because you are a man you have some kind of instilled notion that you must protect your family with a gun. My children's father protects his family.. yet we have never had guns in our home.. nor is this something he has ever thought of having to have either to protyect our children.. the home I grew up in never had guns.. and I never felt unsafe once with my father and his gun-less home.
I guess I am not a fearful person... I dont think life should be wasted worrying about such things.. as we have already established that no one gets out of her alive.. LIVE LIFE.. dont fear it!
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Got a gun, fact I got two
That's ok man, cuz I love god
Glorified version of a pellet gun
Feels so manly, when armed
Glorified version of a pellet gun
Glorified version of a pellet gun
Glorified version of a pellet gun
Glorified version of a pellet gun
Don't think, dumb is strength
Never shot at a living thing
Glorified version of a pellet gun
Feels so manly, when armed
Glorified version of a pellet gun
Glorified version of a pellet gun
Glorified version of a pellet gun
Glorified version of a...
Always keep it loaded
Always keep it loaded
Always keep it loaded
Kindred to be an American...
Life comes...I can feel your heart...
Life comes...I can feel your heart through your neck...
Life comes...I can feel your heart through your neck...
Like some...I can steal your heart from your neck...
Glorified...glorified...
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No, I think it's more of a the minute the government takes extensive measures to control a population prone to over reaction and occasional poor judgment the answer might be to buy a gun.
surely, someone who would lament Americans wanting to own guns would also lament the pitiful job the American government does in times of crisis, yes?
I agree with the "pitiful job your government does in times of crisis" ours is no better but i can't see that buying guns helps a serious situation, only worsens it. If 2 people come to blows about something it may end up with you having a fat lip but if you both have guns!!!!
Both are horrible suggestions. What good is a gun for self defense if it is locked away. The worst thing you can do is to "hide" a gun away from kids. Educate them on how to safely use firearms and instill an absolute respect for what they are capable of. We take our kids to the gun range and let them shoot. They have lost all curiosity regarding firearms and understand that we'll take them to the range when they ask. My goal is to even teach them basic gunsmithing skills so they become even more educated.
You go ahead though and see what comes of "forbidden fruit".
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True. I grew up with gun education as well, but I still wouldn't trust kids around them regardless. I know plenty of adults that own weapons that shouldn't because of thier irresponsible personalities, let alone a kid.
I had my 12 gage loaded, locked up in a gun case with a combo lock to get at it when if I ever needed it.
proof America is becoming more retarded everyday....
this thread.
Poof ! get bent ! its obvious that its something that should be discussed. real people are talking about this shit everyday. newsweek was going to do a cover story not long ago called " how to survive martial law in america" but of course, decided not to run the story.
and calling something retarted is very immature and to be honest, quite insensitive.
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this came up between a few friends and myself this past weekend.
how many people are scared enough about whats going on in the world, and the U.S. right now with the market, the election and all to buy a gun?
it came up because the guys at the table next to us , one said he has always been against guns and all that , but was buying a few guns for protection because he thought the country was going to go to shit soon.
just got me thinking.
I did not read others posts but I am 100% sure that many in here are against guns. I own three.
I rather have them and not need them, then need them and not have them. When I lived in Atlantic City before I was married I had some serious shit go down in my back yard with the cops and some thugs so right after that I bought my first one. Then, after being married a man broke into my home and was hiding in it when my wife came home. I was at the gym. Thank god she left shortly after and he only stole a few things and ran out. After that I bought another. The other is one I bought b/c I like it.
Its not gonna happen again to me or my family.
Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
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Poof ! get bent ! its obvious that its something that should be discussed. real people are talking about this shit everyday. newsweek was going to do a cover story not long ago called " how to survive martial law in america" but of course, decided not to run the story.
and calling something retarted is very immature and to be honest, quite insensitive.
Don't worry Wolf, we will see who will be ass raped and homeless if the shit ever hits the fan. It has happened in many many many other countries....i think we are do.
Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
I am afraid of guns although I get the point why someone would want to have one. Hell, the people you would want to protect yourself from would have one, so why not?
I only shot one once, when my friend's then boyfriend was a security guard and he and I went to a shooting range.
I grew up watching Charlie's Angels and the 90 lb women shooting guns like they were little tiny things, "Ping, Ping!" as they ran and shot some more. Well, when I did shoot finally, it was bizarre that it had such a big kick back that my arm went up pretty dramatically.
I guess I am more afraid that my kids will get it or that I will shoot myself accidently.
what makes you feel more afraid now? that you would want a gun?
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I am afraid of guns although I get the point why someone would want to have one. Hell, the people you would want to protect yourself from would have one, so why not?
Perfectly said.
Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
Don't worry Wolf, we will see who will be ass raped and homeless if the shit ever hits the fan. It has happened in many many many other countries....i think we are do.
no shit, we are being plain ol' ignorant to think that it couldnt happen here.
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to not question your government is unpatriotic."
-- Sen. Chuck Hagel
Don't worry Wolf, we will see who will be ass raped and homeless if the shit ever hits the fan. It has happened in many many many other countries....i think we are do.
please name these countries. and then tell me how they compare to the united states of hysteria
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Might as well buy up what you can because if Obama gets his way you will have to stop the attackers from raping your wife by asking them to stop and negotiate first.
I'm already loaded up, simply because I like guns. I would not hesitate in defending my property from some thug who thinks it is his right to steal from me. 'Foo' got another thing coming. I worked for what I have, I'm certainly not going to let some society reject take something from me. Besides if they are out robbing homes I don't think too many people will complain that they are gone.
I have the right to defend my family and my property.
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For a lot of people, owning a gun just places them in more danger.
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I grew up hunting (haven't done it in like 15 years), so guns were never a foreign thing to me. About 10 years ago when I got out of college and was living on my own in a city, I bought a handgun for piece of mind. Now married with a family, I am sort of glad that I have it. I'm not thinking a marshal law or "Red Dawn" thing is going to happen, and it's locked away and I haven't seen it for a long time, but I know that it's there.
was like a picture
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“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
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Gimme a break with the dramatics... No one is taking away the second amendment.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
You may never have to use one and that's fine. Not too many people actually want to have to use a gun on another human being.
really? cos in the US alone 4 kids die per day as a result of playing with their daddy's penis... sorry i mean gun.... I say paint them yellow and put them into fruit bowls next to the bananas.. have a wee game with the kids of 'guess which one is the gun?', if they're going to shoot each other they may as well have a game out of it.
'the worst thing you can do'... hmmmm surely the worst thing you can do is leave the gun next to the TV, make them play Grand Theft Auto for 12 hours straight, watch all 3 Rambo movies back to back, give them 4 litres of Red Bull, turn them around 16 times and then point them gun and say 'hey remember that jock at school who gave you a wedgie... go find!!!' I fear that would be worse.
I took my kids up the forest last Sunday, and showed them where fish live, trees grow, had a play on the death slide, ran around in the trees and played some games... you take yours to a gun range? to show them how to kill?
its really no wonder the worlds fucked.. i'm surprised its only 4 kids a day who die..
I think it's fuckin' scary that America is such a powerful nation.
Probably not always, but I'd rather err on the side of not killing someone.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
No, I think it's more of a the minute the government takes extensive measures to control a population prone to over reaction and occasional poor judgment the answer might be to buy a gun.
surely, someone who would lament Americans wanting to own guns would also lament the pitiful job the American government does in times of crisis, yes?
+1
I used to own a gun for protection. Then one day I remembered, "Oh, wait, I don't ever want to kill anyone" and I got rid of it.
Fair enough. I'd rather not shoot anyone, but if a person tries to harm my family or someone I care about, that person is getting taken out one way or another. I have no ethical qualms with hurting or killing someone if they put me in a situation where I have to save someone I love.
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I'd have to be 100% sure the person was actually murdering someone before I'd use lethal force...and even then as a last resort.
After all, the penalty for assault isn't death (and I do not believe in the death penalty anyway).
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Yes I am a female and proud to be.
I really do not know how to take the whole "hyper-empathetical view" comment.. but I will take it as a compliment, as I think having empathy is one of the best qualities a person can have.
Please do not give me the whole arguement that because you are a man you have some kind of instilled notion that you must protect your family with a gun. My children's father protects his family.. yet we have never had guns in our home.. nor is this something he has ever thought of having to have either to protyect our children.. the home I grew up in never had guns.. and I never felt unsafe once with my father and his gun-less home.
I guess I am not a fearful person... I dont think life should be wasted worrying about such things.. as we have already established that no one gets out of her alive.. LIVE LIFE.. dont fear it!
As individual fingers we can easily be broken, but together we make a mighty fist ~ Sitting Bull
Got a gun, fact I got two
That's ok man, cuz I love god
Glorified version of a pellet gun
Feels so manly, when armed
Glorified version of a pellet gun
Glorified version of a pellet gun
Glorified version of a pellet gun
Glorified version of a pellet gun
Don't think, dumb is strength
Never shot at a living thing
Glorified version of a pellet gun
Feels so manly, when armed
Glorified version of a pellet gun
Glorified version of a pellet gun
Glorified version of a pellet gun
Glorified version of a...
Always keep it loaded
Always keep it loaded
Always keep it loaded
Kindred to be an American...
Life comes...I can feel your heart...
Life comes...I can feel your heart through your neck...
Life comes...I can feel your heart through your neck...
Like some...I can steal your heart from your neck...
Glorified...glorified...
As individual fingers we can easily be broken, but together we make a mighty fist ~ Sitting Bull
True. I grew up with gun education as well, but I still wouldn't trust kids around them regardless. I know plenty of adults that own weapons that shouldn't because of thier irresponsible personalities, let alone a kid.
I had my 12 gage loaded, locked up in a gun case with a combo lock to get at it when if I ever needed it.
this thread.
Poof ! get bent ! its obvious that its something that should be discussed. real people are talking about this shit everyday. newsweek was going to do a cover story not long ago called " how to survive martial law in america" but of course, decided not to run the story.
and calling something retarted is very immature and to be honest, quite insensitive.
"To question your government is not unpatriotic --
to not question your government is unpatriotic."
-- Sen. Chuck Hagel
...
You don't need to point a gun at me... if you are in need... all you have to do is ask. if you already have... and feel you need more... that's you... being an asshole. If you have to kill me to take what is mine... that's between you and your God.
Hail, Hail!!!
I rather have them and not need them, then need them and not have them. When I lived in Atlantic City before I was married I had some serious shit go down in my back yard with the cops and some thugs so right after that I bought my first one. Then, after being married a man broke into my home and was hiding in it when my wife came home. I was at the gym. Thank god she left shortly after and he only stole a few things and ran out. After that I bought another. The other is one I bought b/c I like it.
Its not gonna happen again to me or my family.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
I only shot one once, when my friend's then boyfriend was a security guard and he and I went to a shooting range.
I grew up watching Charlie's Angels and the 90 lb women shooting guns like they were little tiny things, "Ping, Ping!" as they ran and shot some more. Well, when I did shoot finally, it was bizarre that it had such a big kick back that my arm went up pretty dramatically.
I guess I am more afraid that my kids will get it or that I will shoot myself accidently.
what makes you feel more afraid now? that you would want a gun?
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Perfectly said.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
no shit, we are being plain ol' ignorant to think that it couldnt happen here.
"To question your government is not unpatriotic --
to not question your government is unpatriotic."
-- Sen. Chuck Hagel
I'm going to join the Army.
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please name these countries. and then tell me how they compare to the united states of hysteria
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
I'm already loaded up, simply because I like guns. I would not hesitate in defending my property from some thug who thinks it is his right to steal from me. 'Foo' got another thing coming. I worked for what I have, I'm certainly not going to let some society reject take something from me. Besides if they are out robbing homes I don't think too many people will complain that they are gone.
I have the right to defend my family and my property.