the mole hill of evidence you keep making is in fact a mountain of inconsistencies.
Nothing is 100% certain in life except death, but to say that evolution is some how some unproven theory just shows how detached to reality you truly are. Could 9/11 have been an inside job, possibly. I don't believe it was and that is my opinion. Your problem is that you cannot accept other's opinion if they don't align with yours. I could have easily had a mature discussion with you about like I have had with people like abook, but you are a pompous ass who attempts to belittle anyone who doesn't share your opinion. You have no ability to carry on a mature debate about any topic so why should I continue to try to have an adult conversation with the likes of you. I'm done with this topic and with trying to reason with a child.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
OH no Drifting is so far superior to me because I play Rock Band. I must be such an ignorant bastard because I would rather spend time playing a video game with my son and not sit on a message board talking about conspiracy theories. Poor me.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
Nothing is 100% certain in life except death, but to say that evolution is some how some unproven theory just shows how detached to reality you truly are. Could 9/11 have been an inside job, possibly. I don't believe it was and that is my opinion. Your problem is that you cannot accept other's opinion if they don't align with yours. I could have easily had a mature discussion with you about like I have had with people like abook, but you are a pompous ass who attempts to belittle anyone who doesn't share your opinion. You have no ability to carry on a mature debate about any topic so why should I continue to try to have an adult conversation with the likes of you. I'm done with this topic and with trying to reason with a child.
Ok mr attached to reality. Show me the smoking gun proof of evolution.
Show me.
What specific evidence is it that no one can argue about.
I wanna see it.
The one piece of evidence that finally closes the argument on evolution definitively.
Show it to me.
(your posts keep regressing btw)
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Ok mr attached to reality. Show me the smoking gun proof of evolution.
Arguing over this is kind of useless. Evolution is a scientific theory, an inside job is just a theory. These are 2 totally different kinds of theories. It's moot to try and compare them.
I think you're going ahead of your own arguments in your conclusions, for instance :
"How hard is it to realize that if the government spent 100 million dollars trying to investigate Cigar-Gate with Monica and Bill, and only 3 million and THEN increased to 10 million after a FULL YEAR of NO investigation on the biggest act of terror in american history,!!?!
Honestly though I want a explanation for this. Stuff like this is of smoking gun caliber reality.
This can mean many things, among which the theory supported by mammasan, that the government was fully aware of the risk of an attack and did nothing to stop it.
Just like the other thread (with the petition to reopen 911), you and drifting are going way ahead of things in your conclusions.
Everyone agrees that :
1- the investigation on this event has been botched
2- not everything is clear concerning this day and a real investigation would be nice
That's all you can infer right now. That a new, "real", investigation is needed. Treating people with contempt because they aren't drawing (very) early conclusions is not an argument, and it definitely doesn't do anything for the nice goal everyone would like to attain : actually know what happened.
I repeat myself again I don't give a rat's ass what you think of my posts. You just keep proving my point again and again about what a pompous ass you are.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
I have had with people like abook, but you are a pompous ass who attempts to belittle anyone who doesn't share your opinion.
With all due respect (and that isn't much),
these type of discussions usually degrade after people like YOU start calling anyone who questions the "official story" something like "nutters", "tin foil hat wearers" or worse.
You aren't likely to gain a lot of respect from me, roland, or anyone else, quite frankly, when you open your arguments to a thread that was started amicably by insulting someone.
You can't expect to start your contributions to a thread with bullshit like:
9/11 Truthers need to log off Prison Planet and go out and get a hobby.
and then expect anyone to give a shit about respecting your feeling or opinion.
The OP in this thread is a straight bash against anyone who happens to see things differently, so of course 911 truth folks will come out swinging in here.
But people like YOU are the ones behaving like true pompous asses.
To be honest, there is plenty of guilt to go round on that acount, but start by looking at your own actions, why don't you, before you go accusing others.
:cool:
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Arguing over this is kind of useless. Evolution is a scientific theory, an inside job is just a theory. These are 2 totally different kinds of theories. It's moot to try and compare them.
I think you're going ahead of your own arguments in your conclusions, for instance :
This can mean many things, among which the theory supported by mammasan, that the government was fully aware of the risk of an attack and did nothing to stop it.
Just like the other thread (with the petition to reopen 911), you and drifting are going way ahead of things in your conclusions.
Everyone agrees that :
1- the investigation on this event has been botched
2- not everything is clear concerning this day and a real investigation would be nice
That's all you can infer right now. That a new, "real", investigation is needed. Treating people with contempt because they aren't drawing (very) early conclusions is not an argument, and it definitely doesn't do anything for the nice goal everyone would like to attain : actually know what happened.
I'm just putting the argument back into the face of those in complete and utter denial of so many facts.
They all want smoking gun definitive proof that 9/11 was a conspiracy or people are "fucking ranting childish pompous ass lunatics."
At some point a theory, as evidence mounts, becomes as good as definitive proof.
Dead simple and succinct analogy.
prove evolution beyond ALL reason of a doubt. Show me the smoking gun that ends all discussion on evolution.
Go ahead and show me it...
I'll be waiting.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
With all due respect (and that isn't much),
these type of discussions usually degrade after people like YOU start calling anyone who questions the "official story" something like "nutters", "tin foil hat wearers" or worse.
You aren't likely to gain a lot of respect from me, roland, or anyone else, quite frankly, when you open your arguments to a thread that was started amicably by insulting someone.
You can't expect to start your contributions to a thread with bullshit like:
and then expect anyone to give a shit about respecting your feeling or opinion.
The OP in this thread is a straight bash against anyone who happens to see things differently, so of course 911 truth folks will come out swinging in here.
But people like YOU are the ones behaving like true pompous asses.
To be honest, there is plenty of guilt to go round on that acount, but start by looking at your own actions, why don't you, before you go accusing others.
:cool:
If you check back you will see that i started in with that after Roland implied that I was a neo-con and that I could process information properly. I even went so far as to apologize for my rash words, but of course that wouldn't matter to someone like Roland because if you don't agree with him you are obviously wrong and deserve his belittlement. Lastly I could give a fuck if you respect me or not. You don't mean a damn thing to me. You are a fucking name on a computer screen.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
I repeat myself again I don't give a rat's ass what you think of my posts. You just keep proving my point again and again about what a pompous ass you are.
Are you kidding you actually went out to get a random article to back up a philosophical argument?
Show me the headline that says "evolution has been proven".... the argument is over.
and BTW I actually posted that information on this site in the first place....ffs
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
If you check back you will see that i started in with that after Roland implied that I was a neo-con and that I could process information properly. Lastly I could give a fuck if you respect me or not. You don't mean a damn thing to me. You are a fucking name on a computer screen.
No.
Actualy if you check back, you will see that the ONLY post between your rude comment and the original post is MINE.
Nice lie though.
And i can tell you don't give a fuck.
Hey, here is your cookie: cookie
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Did you read the article or are you just shrugging it off because it proves you wrong.
upon reading this
I have to honesty...ask how old are you? I'm serious, Do I have to link the thread I started on it here in the first place? It was only like a week ago
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Did you read the article or are you just shrugging it off because it proves you wrong.
while i generaly support evolution as a concept,
the article you linked is littered with the words "suggests", "suggested" and "apparently" ... not exactly words that connotate a high degree of certainty.
:cool:
we are verging on way way off topic, btw.
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
There is no other seemingly reasonable explanation.
edit:
In any event
I'm going to gym for a nice workout and a steam...have fun slaving at the wheel for massa folks
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Robin Williams is an over-rated comedian by the way.
Really captain herbal life?
bullshit.
i prefer when he mixes it up, and believe that Good Morning Vietnam and Dead Poets Society stand as probably two of his greatest film rolls ever. GMV, in particular, is one of my all time favorite movies.
Williams is one of the pioneers of modern humor, in all its vulgar hillarity. And there is and never will be any one as good at spazing out and making frantic jokes.
Do you not remember Live at the Met, any of the Comic Reliefs or what have you? Holy fuck man.
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
while i generaly support evolution as a concept,
the article you linked is littered with the words "suggests", "suggested" and "apparently" ... not exactly words that connotate a high degree of certainty.
:cool:
we are verging on way way off topic, btw.
True but evolution is supported by mountains of scientific evidence. To compair evolution to 9/11 conspiracy theories is ridiculous. While one has been studied and documented for decades by some of the leading minds in the field , 9/11 theories have not. As I stated the only thing in life that is 100% certain is death. Nothing else in life can be qualified as 100% certain without some amount of reasonable doubt, but evolution is light years closer to absolute certainty then 9/11 theories.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
I have to honesty...ask how old are you? I'm serious, Do I have to link the thread I started on it here in the first place? It was only like a week ago
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"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
Really captain herbal life?
bullshit.
i prefer when he mixes it up, and believe that Good Morning Vietnam and Dead Poets Society stand as probably two of his greatest film rolls ever. GMV, in particular, is one of my all time favorite movies.
Williams is one of the pioneers of modern humor, in all its vulgar hillarity. And there is and never will be any one as good at spazing out and making frantic jokes.
Do you not remember Live at the Met, any of the Comic Reliefs or what have you? Holy fuck man.
Again there you go with a condescending tone because someone doesn't agree with you.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
At some point a theory, as evidence mounts, becomes as good as definitive proof.
Not if half of the "evidence" could also prove the alternative point of view which is the government didn't take the threat of a terrorist attack seriously or just let it happen.
Dead simple and succinct analogy.
prove evolution beyond ALL reason of a doubt. Show me the smoking gun that ends all discussion on evolution.
Go ahead and show me it...
I'll be waiting.
Why would I do that? A scientific theory is different from a normal theory. A scientific theory is true if it fits all observations and will stay true until an observation contradicts it. Gravity is also a theory, no one could show you a smoking gun about it either because they simply don't exist for these types of theories.
True but evolution is supported by mountains of scientific evidence. To compair evolution to 9/11 conspiracy theories is ridiculous. While one has been studied and documented for decades by some of the leading minds in the field , 9/11 theories have not. As I stated the only thing in life that is 100% certain is death. Nothing else in life can be qualified as 100% certain without some amount of reasonable doubt, but evolution is light years closer to absolute certainty then 9/11 theories.
Is death certain? A lot of people disagree and would swear up and down there is
an afterlife. A lot of people believe in heaven and base their entire lives around it.
Furthermore to add to this 100% finality you are so positive about.... We are just a collection of vibrating energy patterns. Energy is never destroyed, it never dies, just changes configuration. Nobody can say for certain what is to be after this shift in energy.
I don't limit myself or my thoughts and understanding to what I'm told to believe.
Especially if the person(s) telling me are irrefutably proven pathological liars (Bush Cheney et al)
I suppose by default that makes me a ranting, raving lunatic...
I can live with that....
Look at all the people calling Ron Paul crazy...haha
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Is death certain? A lot of people disagree and would swear up and down there is
an afterlife. A lot of people believe in heaven and base their entire lives around it.
Furthermore to add to this 100% finality you are so positive about.... We are just a collection of vibrating energy patterns. Energy is never destroyed, it never dies, just changes configuration. Nobody can say for certain what is to be after this shift in energy.
I don't limit myself or my thoughts and understanding to what I'm told to believe.
Especially if the person(s) telling me are irrefutably proven pathological liars (Bush Cheney et al)
I suppose by default that makes me a ranting, raving lunatic...
I can live with that....
Look at all the people calling Ron Paul crazy...haha
No it doesn't make you a ranting raving lunatic, but you still are a pompous ass. Our bodies die, what transpires after that is up to each person's individual beliefs. So death of our physical being is a certainty.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
Not if half of the "evidence" could also prove the alternative point of view which is the government didn't take the threat of a terrorist attack seriously or just let it happen.
Why would I do that? A scientific theory is different from a normal theory. A scientific theory is true if it fits all observations and will stay true until an observation contradicts it. Gravity is also a theory, no one could show you a smoking gun about it either because they simply don't exist for these types of theories.
The scale has tipped past the 50/50 point. If you see the official story as the 51%.well that's your prerogative. Additional time will be required for you to base a more solid conclusion....it should be anyways in this case.
Looking at the findings and automatically concluding either way that someone is a ranting raving etc.. etc.. so and so lunatic is a bit past ridiculous already.
The term "strong plausibility" carries significant weight for me.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
No it doesn't make you a ranting raving lunatic, but you still are a pompous ass. Our bodies die, what transpires after that is up to each person's individual beliefs. So death of our physical being is a certainty.
And that would be your belief... so ?
What does it prove?
zippo?
see?
inside the box thinking..
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
The scale has tipped past the 50/50 point. If you see the official story as the 51%.well that's your prerogative. Additional time will be required for you to base a more solid conclusion....it should be anyways in this case.
Looking at the findings and automatically concluding either way that someone is a ranting raving etc.. etc.. so and so lunatic is a bit past ridiculous already.
The term "strong plausibility" carries significant weight for me.
But you are preaching a "strong plausibility" you are stating it as fact that the US government orchestrated the attacks, which is clearly not the case.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
Because you deny all other possibilities based on YOUR beliefs while denouncing others despite irrefutable proof. Conditioning of thought invented by those before you that race you towards an immediate conclusion. They made the box, and you're running around in it yelling 100%! 100%!
inside the box....
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
But you are preaching a "strong plausibility" you are stating it as fact that the US government orchestrated the attacks, which is clearly not the case.
Simply not the case?
Really? So all the questions, concerns, and facts disputing 9/11 have all been addressed and put soundly to sleep?
They have?!?!
Holy fuck? How long was I at the gym for? I could swear it was only a few hours?!
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Because you deny all other possibilities based on YOUR beliefs while denouncing others despite irrefutable proof. Conditioning of thought invented by those before you that race you towards an immediate conclusion. They made the box, and you're running around in it yelling 100%! 100%!
inside the box....
I don't deny any possibility. You think because I don't agree with you on this issue that I'm some fool who believes everything the government spoon feeds me. That is where you are greatly mistaken. My opinions of what occurred on 9/11 have nothing to do with what the Bush administration's story of the events are. I came to my opinion through my own reading and researching into the issue, not because some fucking talking head on the TV told me what to believe in. You would be suprised as to how many issues we probably agree one with maybe the exception of this one.
As to the issue at hand you don't have irrefutable proof. I don't have irrefutable proof. No one but the people in control have that. What we have it tid bits of information that we put together and not everyone is going to come up with the same answer. Could the government have orchestrated 9/11, of course they could have. They definitely have to power and ability to do so. With all that is known laid out before me I came to the conclusion that the government did not plan it but they definitely didn't do anything to stop it. You see the same evidence and see different which is fine. I said a few stupid things at the start of this thread that where uncalled for, which I have apologized for because I honestly respect everyone's opinion. What I do not respect is the belittling of people who do not share the same opinion, yes I know I did that myself and again I apologize. Yes a lot of our back and forth was me, and you, being a-holes. So let's put this to rest. I believe that the government didn't plan it you do, but I'm sure that we can both agree that wether in this life or the next these assholes get what's coming to them. When I say these assholes I'm speaking about the people in our government.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
Someone should add up all the abnormal coincidences, I'd be curious to see how big the number was.
Also why no investigation into the put options?
I could've sworn someone posted a link on this board sometime, maybe four months ago that led to an article on this topic. Some journalist managed to talk to a lady who worked for a group that was trying to do a some investigation on this independently but all they eventually found out was that whatever info there was on it was destroyed.
I wish I could remember where it was I read that...if I do I'll be sure to post it.
EDIT: Well, I managed to find what I think was it. Don't know much about that website though...
Comments
Nothing is 100% certain in life except death, but to say that evolution is some how some unproven theory just shows how detached to reality you truly are. Could 9/11 have been an inside job, possibly. I don't believe it was and that is my opinion. Your problem is that you cannot accept other's opinion if they don't align with yours. I could have easily had a mature discussion with you about like I have had with people like abook, but you are a pompous ass who attempts to belittle anyone who doesn't share your opinion. You have no ability to carry on a mature debate about any topic so why should I continue to try to have an adult conversation with the likes of you. I'm done with this topic and with trying to reason with a child.
OH no Drifting is so far superior to me because I play Rock Band. I must be such an ignorant bastard because I would rather spend time playing a video game with my son and not sit on a message board talking about conspiracy theories. Poor me.
Ok mr attached to reality. Show me the smoking gun proof of evolution.
Show me.
What specific evidence is it that no one can argue about.
I wanna see it.
The one piece of evidence that finally closes the argument on evolution definitively.
Show it to me.
(your posts keep regressing btw)
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
I think you're going ahead of your own arguments in your conclusions, for instance : This can mean many things, among which the theory supported by mammasan, that the government was fully aware of the risk of an attack and did nothing to stop it.
Just like the other thread (with the petition to reopen 911), you and drifting are going way ahead of things in your conclusions.
Everyone agrees that :
1- the investigation on this event has been botched
2- not everything is clear concerning this day and a real investigation would be nice
That's all you can infer right now. That a new, "real", investigation is needed. Treating people with contempt because they aren't drawing (very) early conclusions is not an argument, and it definitely doesn't do anything for the nice goal everyone would like to attain : actually know what happened.
Here is an article that took me all of 2 seconds to find.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/03/0308_060308_evolution.html
I repeat myself again I don't give a rat's ass what you think of my posts. You just keep proving my point again and again about what a pompous ass you are.
With all due respect (and that isn't much),
these type of discussions usually degrade after people like YOU start calling anyone who questions the "official story" something like "nutters", "tin foil hat wearers" or worse.
You aren't likely to gain a lot of respect from me, roland, or anyone else, quite frankly, when you open your arguments to a thread that was started amicably by insulting someone.
You can't expect to start your contributions to a thread with bullshit like:
and then expect anyone to give a shit about respecting your feeling or opinion.
The OP in this thread is a straight bash against anyone who happens to see things differently, so of course 911 truth folks will come out swinging in here.
But people like YOU are the ones behaving like true pompous asses.
To be honest, there is plenty of guilt to go round on that acount, but start by looking at your own actions, why don't you, before you go accusing others.
:cool:
If I opened it now would you not understand?
I'm just putting the argument back into the face of those in complete and utter denial of so many facts.
They all want smoking gun definitive proof that 9/11 was a conspiracy or people are "fucking ranting childish pompous ass lunatics."
At some point a theory, as evidence mounts, becomes as good as definitive proof.
Dead simple and succinct analogy.
prove evolution beyond ALL reason of a doubt. Show me the smoking gun that ends all discussion on evolution.
Go ahead and show me it...
I'll be waiting.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
If you check back you will see that i started in with that after Roland implied that I was a neo-con and that I could process information properly. I even went so far as to apologize for my rash words, but of course that wouldn't matter to someone like Roland because if you don't agree with him you are obviously wrong and deserve his belittlement. Lastly I could give a fuck if you respect me or not. You don't mean a damn thing to me. You are a fucking name on a computer screen.
Are you kidding you actually went out to get a random article to back up a philosophical argument?
Show me the headline that says "evolution has been proven".... the argument is over.
and BTW I actually posted that information on this site in the first place....ffs
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
No.
Actualy if you check back, you will see that the ONLY post between your rude comment and the original post is MINE.
Nice lie though.
And i can tell you don't give a fuck.
Hey, here is your cookie:
cookie
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Did you read the article or are you just shrugging it off because it proves you wrong.
You stand corrected so I apologize.
Robin Williams is an over-rated comedian by the way. His dramatic performances are much better.
upon reading this
I have to honesty...ask how old are you? I'm serious, Do I have to link the thread I started on it here in the first place? It was only like a week ago
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
while i generaly support evolution as a concept,
the article you linked is littered with the words "suggests", "suggested" and "apparently" ... not exactly words that connotate a high degree of certainty.
:cool:
we are verging on way way off topic, btw.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
There is no other seemingly reasonable explanation.
edit:
In any event
I'm going to gym for a nice workout and a steam...have fun slaving at the wheel for massa folks
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Really captain herbal life?
bullshit.
i prefer when he mixes it up, and believe that Good Morning Vietnam and Dead Poets Society stand as probably two of his greatest film rolls ever. GMV, in particular, is one of my all time favorite movies.
Williams is one of the pioneers of modern humor, in all its vulgar hillarity. And there is and never will be any one as good at spazing out and making frantic jokes.
Do you not remember Live at the Met, any of the Comic Reliefs or what have you? Holy fuck man.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
True but evolution is supported by mountains of scientific evidence. To compair evolution to 9/11 conspiracy theories is ridiculous. While one has been studied and documented for decades by some of the leading minds in the field , 9/11 theories have not. As I stated the only thing in life that is 100% certain is death. Nothing else in life can be qualified as 100% certain without some amount of reasonable doubt, but evolution is light years closer to absolute certainty then 9/11 theories.
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Again there you go with a condescending tone because someone doesn't agree with you.
Why would I do that? A scientific theory is different from a normal theory. A scientific theory is true if it fits all observations and will stay true until an observation contradicts it. Gravity is also a theory, no one could show you a smoking gun about it either because they simply don't exist for these types of theories.
Is death certain? A lot of people disagree and would swear up and down there is
an afterlife. A lot of people believe in heaven and base their entire lives around it.
Furthermore to add to this 100% finality you are so positive about.... We are just a collection of vibrating energy patterns. Energy is never destroyed, it never dies, just changes configuration. Nobody can say for certain what is to be after this shift in energy.
I don't limit myself or my thoughts and understanding to what I'm told to believe.
Especially if the person(s) telling me are irrefutably proven pathological liars (Bush Cheney et al)
I suppose by default that makes me a ranting, raving lunatic...
I can live with that....
Look at all the people calling Ron Paul crazy...haha
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
No it doesn't make you a ranting raving lunatic, but you still are a pompous ass. Our bodies die, what transpires after that is up to each person's individual beliefs. So death of our physical being is a certainty.
The scale has tipped past the 50/50 point. If you see the official story as the 51%.well that's your prerogative. Additional time will be required for you to base a more solid conclusion....it should be anyways in this case.
Looking at the findings and automatically concluding either way that someone is a ranting raving etc.. etc.. so and so lunatic is a bit past ridiculous already.
The term "strong plausibility" carries significant weight for me.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
And that would be your belief... so ?
What does it prove?
zippo?
see?
inside the box thinking..
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
But you are preaching a "strong plausibility" you are stating it as fact that the US government orchestrated the attacks, which is clearly not the case.
And why is that inside the box thinking?
Because you deny all other possibilities based on YOUR beliefs while denouncing others despite irrefutable proof. Conditioning of thought invented by those before you that race you towards an immediate conclusion. They made the box, and you're running around in it yelling 100%! 100%!
inside the box....
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Simply not the case?
Really? So all the questions, concerns, and facts disputing 9/11 have all been addressed and put soundly to sleep?
They have?!?!
Holy fuck? How long was I at the gym for? I could swear it was only a few hours?!
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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I don't deny any possibility. You think because I don't agree with you on this issue that I'm some fool who believes everything the government spoon feeds me. That is where you are greatly mistaken. My opinions of what occurred on 9/11 have nothing to do with what the Bush administration's story of the events are. I came to my opinion through my own reading and researching into the issue, not because some fucking talking head on the TV told me what to believe in. You would be suprised as to how many issues we probably agree one with maybe the exception of this one.
As to the issue at hand you don't have irrefutable proof. I don't have irrefutable proof. No one but the people in control have that. What we have it tid bits of information that we put together and not everyone is going to come up with the same answer. Could the government have orchestrated 9/11, of course they could have. They definitely have to power and ability to do so. With all that is known laid out before me I came to the conclusion that the government did not plan it but they definitely didn't do anything to stop it. You see the same evidence and see different which is fine. I said a few stupid things at the start of this thread that where uncalled for, which I have apologized for because I honestly respect everyone's opinion. What I do not respect is the belittling of people who do not share the same opinion, yes I know I did that myself and again I apologize. Yes a lot of our back and forth was me, and you, being a-holes. So let's put this to rest. I believe that the government didn't plan it you do, but I'm sure that we can both agree that wether in this life or the next these assholes get what's coming to them. When I say these assholes I'm speaking about the people in our government.
I could've sworn someone posted a link on this board sometime, maybe four months ago that led to an article on this topic. Some journalist managed to talk to a lady who worked for a group that was trying to do a some investigation on this independently but all they eventually found out was that whatever info there was on it was destroyed.
I wish I could remember where it was I read that...if I do I'll be sure to post it.
EDIT: Well, I managed to find what I think was it. Don't know much about that website though...
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/illegaltades.html