The Great Derangement: If Cheney & Co. Had Really Plotted the 9/11 Attacks ...

RolandTD20Kdrummer

MakingWaves wrote:

Great post, but they will pretty much ignore your post as it makes too much sense and just ask other questions.

You better get yourself overseas son... times a wasting.

MakingWaves

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

You better get yourself overseas son... times a wasting.

I'm sorry, but I have no idea what you mean.

mammasan

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

You had to write a novel?

I could have summarized that entire point in a sentence or two....but anyhow.

You think there was compliance no? They looked the other way right?

I believe that the government fucked up royally. Now wether that fuck up was intentional or just merely a product of their stupidity I don't know, but to me that is the question that needs to be answered.

All of this 9/11 Truth Movement crap about the government actually executing the attacks is not helping the situation only making it worse. You people are no different, in my opinion, than the uber-patriots who still try to convince people that the terrorists attacked us because they hate our liberties. It's the spreading of dis-information for the sole reason of promoting an agenda. Meanwhile the truth continues to get buried and any individual who is honestly pursuing the truth has lost all credibility because they get lumped in with the 9/11 Truthers.

I am more apt to believe L. Ron Hubbard's version of how we came to be, traveling on this planet on DC-10s and the behest of Xenon, than I am to believing that fable about the government orchestrating the 9/11 attacks.

mammasan

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

Why is that? We had a good conversation yesterday without getting antagonizing. I brought up some good points. I thought we were able to see that both sides have good points and were able to move past getting angry that one chooses to see it differently than the other.

Read my previous post and you will see why.

jeffbr

MakingWaves wrote:

I'm sorry, but I have no idea what you mean.

He suffers from delusions that everyone who doesn't believe in fairy tales is a neocon for some reason.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

MakingWaves wrote:

I'm sorry, but I have no idea what you mean.

The terrorists did it all right? Sign up for the neo-con cause that you admire so much and believe in at face value, do as you're are told, and start killing terrorists.

Simple. What are you waiting for?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

mammasan wrote:

I believe that the government fucked up royally. Now wether that fuck up was intentional or just merely a product of their stupidity I don't know, but to me that is the question that needs to be answered.

All of this 9/11 Truth Movement crap about the government actually executing the attacks is not helping the situation only making it worse. You people are no different, in my opinion, than the uber-patriots who still try to convince people that the terrorists attacked us because they hate our liberties. It's the spreading of dis-information for the sole reason of promoting an agenda. Meanwhile the truth continues to get buried and any individual who is honestly pursuing the truth has lost all credibility because they get lumped in with the 9/11 Truthers.

I am more apt to believe L. Ron Hubbard's version of how we came to be, traveling on this planet on DC-10s and the behest of Xenon, than I am to believing that fable about the government orchestrating the 9/11 attacks.

Ahh I get it. You should be overseas also.

mammasan

MakingWaves wrote:

Great post, but they will pretty much ignore your post as it makes too much sense and just ask other questions.

Of course Roland will not answer any of my questions because by doing so we will all see how batty this whole conspiracy theory is.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

jeffbr wrote:

He suffers from delusions that everyone who doesn't believe in fairy tales is a neocon for some reason.

If you believe what you are told by this administration you should stand up for it.

You know what that means right?

mammasan

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Ahh I get it. You should be overseas also.

Oh I see so because I don't believe in your fairy tale version of events I'm a willing supporter of the Neo-Con agenda. Damn Roland you are so smart you pegged me. Now you can (OH OH OH OH OH…splat) get off on being the coolest smartest kid on the board.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

mammasan wrote:

Of course Roland will not answer any of my questions because by doing so we will all see how batty this whole conspiracy theory is.

You went on a rant...plain and simple.

again splitting hairs is what you want to do, on what your interpretation of reality is...which is pointless and stupid from a time perspective..

Go fight the war on terrorism. if you believe the case is bulletproof.

MakingWaves

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

The terrorists did it all right? Sign up for the neo-con cause that you admire so much and believe in at face value, do as you're are told, and start killing terrorists.

Simple. What are you waiting for?

You are so predictable.

I told you they would ignore that post and just ask more questions or say something this ignorant.

That post broke down everything you believe happened and when you read it all together it is easy to understand why some people see the story as being truly unbelievable.

I won't stoop to your level and insinuate that people are stupid for believing differently. Because in the end I can't blame you because there is no way that you would know that I can't stand politicians or the way our country has been run the past few years. It is just easier for you and your propaganda to paint with broad strokes and lump people into categories.

But who cares! I'm going to see Pearl Jam in 24 days.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

mammasan wrote:

Oh I see so because I don't believe in your fairy tale version of events I'm a willing supporter of the Neo-Con agenda. Damn Roland you are so smart you pegged me. Now you can (OH OH OH OH OH…splat) get off on being the coolest smartest kid on the board.

Go fight the war on terrorism You believe in it.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

MakingWaves wrote:

You are so predictable.

I told you they would ignore that post and just ask more questions or say something this ignorant.

That post broke down everything you believe happened and when you read it all together it is easy to understand why some people see the story as being truly unbelievable.

I won't stoop to your level and insinuate that people are stupid for believing differently. Because in the end I can't blame you because there is no way that you would know that I can't stand politicians or the way our country has been run the past few years. It is just easier for you and your propaganda to paint with broad strokes and lump people into categories.

But who cares! I'm going to see Pearl Jam in 24 days.

Go fight the war on terror if you're sold on it...

MakingWaves

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Go fight the war on terror of you're so sold on it...

Again, what makes you think that I believe this. Because I don't believe your fantasy story of the events of 9/11??

You are obviously a smart guy but it isn't very smart to conclude something like this because someone believes differently.

mammasan

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

You went on a rant...plain and simple.

again splitting hairs is what you want to do, on what your interpretation of reality is...which is pointless and stupid from a time perspective..

Go fight the war on terrorism. if you believe the case is bulletproof.

You crack me up man. You are so predictable it's actually pretty entertaining. You have the same MO every time. Some one disagrees with you, you debate back and forth. The person hands you the internet equivalent of a smack down and you resort to calling them Neo-Cons and making wild unsubstanciated assumptions about them.

mammasan

MakingWaves wrote:

Again, what makes you think that I believe this. Because I don't believe your fantasy story of the events of 9/11??

You are obviously a smart guy but it isn't very smart to conclude something like this because someone believes differently.

He does that because he has no leg to stand on. I clearly outlined what he believes occurred that day and any logical person can see how utterly ridiculous that is. So since he can't defend his stance he will resort to making stupid assumptions about the people who disagree with him. It's what he always does.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

mammasan wrote:

You crack me up man. You are so predictable it's actually pretty entertaining. You have the same MO every time. Some one disagrees with you, you debate back and forth. The person hands you the internet equivalent of a smack down and you resort to calling them Neo-Cons and making wild unsubstanciated assumptions about them.

You crack me up also. It's beyond convincing you of anything because you only want to see what you want to see, and not address anything I've pointed out. You're pretty predictable also in that regard. You trust the govt at face value to what they say so...are you a patriot or traitor?

A real patriot would be over there fighting for the cause they truly believe in instead of sitting behind a computer chatting on a forum about it.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

mammasan wrote:

He does that because he has no leg to stand on. I clearly outlined what he believes occurred that day and any logical person can see how utterly ridiculous that is. So since he can't defend his stance he will resort to making stupid assumptions about the people who disagree with him. It's what he always does.

hubris

mammasan

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

You crack me up also. It's beyond convincing you of anything because you only want to see what you want to see, and not address anything I've pointed out. You're pretty predictable also in that regard. You trust the govt at face value to what they say so...are you a patriot or traitor?

A real patriot would be over there fighting for the cause they truly believe in instead of sitting behind a computer chatting on a forum about it.

Who said I believed the government's story. I simply stated that I don't believe that the government executed the attacks. Also just to clear up the confusion, to help prevent you from looking like an even bigger ass than you already do, I have never since day one supported our invasion of Iraq nor to I support the over-all war against terrorism. You cannot fight an ideal with military might. So you can keep your extremely inaccurate childish assumption to yourself.