The Great Derangement: If Cheney & Co. Had Really Plotted the 9/11 Attacks ...

RolandTD20Kdrummer

MakingWaves wrote:

Again, what makes you think that I believe this. Because I don't believe your fantasy story of the events of 9/11??

You are obviously a smart guy but it isn't very smart to conclude something like this because someone believes differently.

So you believe Bush is right , but don't want to do anything about it?

I suppose that's your prerogative.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

mammasan wrote:

Who said I believed the government's story. I simply stated that I don't believe that the government executed the attacks. Also just to clear up the confusion, to help prevent you from looking like an even bigger ass than you already do, I have never since day one supported our invasion of Iraq nor to I support the over-all war against terrorism. You cannot fight an ideal with military might. So you can keep your extremely inaccurate childish assumption to yourself.

If you believe Bush is telling the truth on 9/11. Then you should be supporting him.

MakingWaves

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

So you believe Bush is right , but don't want to do anything about it?

I suppose that's your prerogative.

No, I don't believe Bush is 100% right and I am going to do something about it by not voting for Bush III (Cheney).

Do I think the government could have had knowledge of the attacks but ignored that knowledge out of sheer ignorance? Maybe, or maybe they were so egotistical that they didn't think it could happen to us.

Did they use these attacks as an excuse to attack Iraq? YES

Did they plan and orchestrate the attacks? No, not possible in my opinion.

Nevermind

How did building 7 fall again?

MakingWaves

Nevermind wrote:

How did building 7 fall again?

Just go to page 6 and read the post that summarizes about how it all went down. It will answer all your questions.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

MakingWaves wrote:

No, I don't believe Bush is 100% right and I am going to do something about it by not voting for Bush III (Cheney).

Do I think the government could have had knowledge of the attacks but ignored that knowledge out of sheer ignorance? Maybe, or maybe they were so egotistical that they didn't think it could happen to us.

Did they use these attacks as an excuse to attack Iraq? YES

Did they plan and orchestrate the attacks? No, not possible in my opinion.

It's a black and white situation....you can't pick and choose. 9/11 was a fork in the road. If 9/11 happened at face value like Bush said, your country is under attack. You are under attack. You have a moral obligation to support your president or you are a traitor.

mammasan

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

If you believe Bush is telling the truth on 9/11. Then you should be supporting him.

I never said he was telling the truth. Like I said I believe that the government fucked up royally. Now the question is was it done intentionally or not?

Your problem is that you only see the issue as black and white. Either you believe that the US government orchestrated the attacks or you are a neo-con pasty. There are many people who do not support this administration's action but who do not believe that they orchestrated the attacks simply because the facts to don't line up to prove so.

MakingWaves

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

It's a black and white situation....you can't pick and choose. 9/11 was a fork in the road. If 9/11 happened at face value like Bush said, your country is under attack. You are under attack. You have a moral obligation to support your president.

ummmmm......ok.???

mammasan

Nevermind wrote:

How did building 7 fall again?

By controlled demolition. I guess that is where they orchestrated everything and they needed to make sure that they destroyed the evidence and toppling a 40+ story building is far easier then using a paper shredder.

mammasan

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

It's a black and white situation....you can't pick and choose. 9/11 was a fork in the road. If 9/11 happened at face value like Bush said, your country is under attack. You are under attack. You have a moral obligation to support your president or you are a traitor.

Now you sound like Bush. You are either with us or against us.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

mammasan wrote:

I never said he was telling the truth. Like I said I believe that the government fucked up royally. Now the question is was it done intentionally or not?

Your problem is that you only see the issue as black and white. Either you believe that the US government orchestrated the attacks or you are a neo-con pasty. There are many people who do not support this administration's action but who do not believe that they orchestrated the attacks simply because the facts to don't line up to prove so.

You either believe what you were told about 9/11 or not. You can't have your cake and it eat too in this scenario.

"you are either with us, or you are with the terrorists" is what he told you.

Pick your side. If 9/11 was real, you now have a moral obligation to defend your country.

Support your leader.

Nevermind

Nevermind wrote:

How did building 7 fall again?

Still no serious answer?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

mammasan wrote:

Now you sound like Bush. You are either with us or against us.

That's the reality. Your country was attacked, you are at war.

MakingWaves

Nevermind wrote:

Still no serious answer?

They blew it up with either demolition or lasers from space. No other explanation will make sense to you so why bother answering. Other explanations have been posted over and over on here yet the question still comes up. So it must be demolition or lasers from space as I have seen both of these explanations posted on here.

MakingWaves

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

You either believe what you were told about 9/11 or not. You can't have your cake and it eat too in this scenario.

"you are either with us, or you are with the terrorists" is what he told you.

Pick your side. If 9/11 was real, you now have a moral obligation to defend your country.

Support your leader.

I'm sorry but you can have your cake and eat it too in this scenario. It's called common sense and I choose to us it in this scenario.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

MakingWaves wrote:

I'm sorry but you can have your cake and eat it too in this scenario. It's called common sense and I choose to us it in this scenario.

explain this common sense...

MakingWaves

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

explain this common sense...

Well you did make me laugh so I will end my part in this debate on that high note.

Peace and I wish i could meet you at a show and buy you a beer.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

MakingWaves wrote:

Well you did make me laugh so I will end my part in this debate on that high note.

Peace and I wish i could meet you at a show and buy you a beer.

So terrorism does not exist, but your country got attacked by it?

Or....you would just not rather not defend your country is your answer. Someone else will do it right?

Which?

You don't have to answer.

(I'll take the show and beer thanks :cool: .)

Its Evolution Baby

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

So terrorism does not exist, but your country got attacked by it?

Or....you would just not rather not defend your country is your answer. Someone else will do it right?

Which?

You don't have to answer.

(I'll take the show and beer thanks :cool: .)

I can't speak for everyone but I was initially behind the President after 9/11 and the invasion of Afghanistan. He lost me and many others with the unnecessary and unjust war in Iraq.

I think we still have work to do against Al Queda in the region.

Carlos D

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

That's the reality. Your country was attacked, you are at war.

On that logic,if what you say is true shouldn't you be outside the White House with a gun right now trying to save us all?