Of course Roland will not answer any of my questions because by doing so we will all see how batty this whole conspiracy theory is.
You went on a rant...plain and simple.
again splitting hairs is what you want to do, on what your interpretation of reality is...which is pointless and stupid from a time perspective..
Go fight the war on terrorism. if you believe the case is bulletproof.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
The terrorists did it all right? Sign up for the neo-con cause that you admire so much and believe in at face value, do as you're are told, and start killing terrorists.
Simple. What are you waiting for?
You are so predictable.
I told you they would ignore that post and just ask more questions or say something this ignorant.
That post broke down everything you believe happened and when you read it all together it is easy to understand why some people see the story as being truly unbelievable.
I won't stoop to your level and insinuate that people are stupid for believing differently. Because in the end I can't blame you because there is no way that you would know that I can't stand politicians or the way our country has been run the past few years. It is just easier for you and your propaganda to paint with broad strokes and lump people into categories.
But who cares! I'm going to see Pearl Jam in 24 days.
Seeing visions of falling up somehow.
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Oh I see so because I don't believe in your fairy tale version of events I'm a willing supporter of the Neo-Con agenda. Damn Roland you are so smart you pegged me. Now you can (OH OH OH OH OH…splat) get off on being the coolest smartest kid on the board.
Go fight the war on terrorism You believe in it.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I told you they would ignore that post and just ask more questions or say something this ignorant.
That post broke down everything you believe happened and when you read it all together it is easy to understand why some people see the story as being truly unbelievable.
I won't stoop to your level and insinuate that people are stupid for believing differently. Because in the end I can't blame you because there is no way that you would know that I can't stand politicians or the way our country has been run the past few years. It is just easier for you and your propaganda to paint with broad strokes and lump people into categories.
But who cares! I'm going to see Pearl Jam in 24 days.
Go fight the war on terror if you're sold on it...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Go fight the war on terror of you're so sold on it...
Again, what makes you think that I believe this. Because I don't believe your fantasy story of the events of 9/11??
You are obviously a smart guy but it isn't very smart to conclude something like this because someone believes differently.
Seeing visions of falling up somehow.
Pensacola '94 New Orleans '95 Birmingham '98 New Orleans '00 New Orleans '03 Tampa '08 New Orleans '10 - Jazzfest New Orleans '16 - Jazzfest Fenway Park '18 St. Louis '22
again splitting hairs is what you want to do, on what your interpretation of reality is...which is pointless and stupid from a time perspective..
Go fight the war on terrorism. if you believe the case is bulletproof.
You crack me up man. You are so predictable it's actually pretty entertaining. You have the same MO every time. Some one disagrees with you, you debate back and forth. The person hands you the internet equivalent of a smack down and you resort to calling them Neo-Cons and making wild unsubstanciated assumptions about them.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
Again, what makes you think that I believe this. Because I don't believe your fantasy story of the events of 9/11??
You are obviously a smart guy but it isn't very smart to conclude something like this because someone believes differently.
He does that because he has no leg to stand on. I clearly outlined what he believes occurred that day and any logical person can see how utterly ridiculous that is. So since he can't defend his stance he will resort to making stupid assumptions about the people who disagree with him. It's what he always does.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
You crack me up man. You are so predictable it's actually pretty entertaining. You have the same MO every time. Some one disagrees with you, you debate back and forth. The person hands you the internet equivalent of a smack down and you resort to calling them Neo-Cons and making wild unsubstanciated assumptions about them.
You crack me up also. It's beyond convincing you of anything because you only want to see what you want to see, and not address anything I've pointed out. You're pretty predictable also in that regard. You trust the govt at face value to what they say so...are you a patriot or traitor?
A real patriot would be over there fighting for the cause they truly believe in instead of sitting behind a computer chatting on a forum about it.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
He does that because he has no leg to stand on. I clearly outlined what he believes occurred that day and any logical person can see how utterly ridiculous that is. So since he can't defend his stance he will resort to making stupid assumptions about the people who disagree with him. It's what he always does.
hubris
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
You crack me up also. It's beyond convincing you of anything because you only want to see what you want to see, and not address anything I've pointed out. You're pretty predictable also in that regard. You trust the govt at face value to what they say so...are you a patriot or traitor?
A real patriot would be over there fighting for the cause they truly believe in instead of sitting behind a computer chatting on a forum about it.
Who said I believed the government's story. I simply stated that I don't believe that the government executed the attacks. Also just to clear up the confusion, to help prevent you from looking like an even bigger ass than you already do, I have never since day one supported our invasion of Iraq nor to I support the over-all war against terrorism. You cannot fight an ideal with military might. So you can keep your extremely inaccurate childish assumption to yourself.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
Again, what makes you think that I believe this. Because I don't believe your fantasy story of the events of 9/11??
You are obviously a smart guy but it isn't very smart to conclude something like this because someone believes differently.
So you believe Bush is right , but don't want to do anything about it?
I suppose that's your prerogative.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Who said I believed the government's story. I simply stated that I don't believe that the government executed the attacks. Also just to clear up the confusion, to help prevent you from looking like an even bigger ass than you already do, I have never since day one supported our invasion of Iraq nor to I support the over-all war against terrorism. You cannot fight an ideal with military might. So you can keep your extremely inaccurate childish assumption to yourself.
If you believe Bush is telling the truth on 9/11. Then you should be supporting him.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
So you believe Bush is right , but don't want to do anything about it?
I suppose that's your prerogative.
No, I don't believe Bush is 100% right and I am going to do something about it by not voting for Bush III (Cheney).
Do I think the government could have had knowledge of the attacks but ignored that knowledge out of sheer ignorance? Maybe, or maybe they were so egotistical that they didn't think it could happen to us.
Did they use these attacks as an excuse to attack Iraq? YES
Did they plan and orchestrate the attacks? No, not possible in my opinion.
Seeing visions of falling up somehow.
Pensacola '94 New Orleans '95 Birmingham '98 New Orleans '00 New Orleans '03 Tampa '08 New Orleans '10 - Jazzfest New Orleans '16 - Jazzfest Fenway Park '18 St. Louis '22
Just go to page 6 and read the post that summarizes about how it all went down. It will answer all your questions.
Seeing visions of falling up somehow.
Pensacola '94 New Orleans '95 Birmingham '98 New Orleans '00 New Orleans '03 Tampa '08 New Orleans '10 - Jazzfest New Orleans '16 - Jazzfest Fenway Park '18 St. Louis '22
No, I don't believe Bush is 100% right and I am going to do something about it by not voting for Bush III (Cheney).
Do I think the government could have had knowledge of the attacks but ignored that knowledge out of sheer ignorance? Maybe, or maybe they were so egotistical that they didn't think it could happen to us.
Did they use these attacks as an excuse to attack Iraq? YES
Did they plan and orchestrate the attacks? No, not possible in my opinion.
It's a black and white situation....you can't pick and choose. 9/11 was a fork in the road. If 9/11 happened at face value like Bush said, your country is under attack. You are under attack. You have a moral obligation to support your president or you are a traitor.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
If you believe Bush is telling the truth on 9/11. Then you should be supporting him.
I never said he was telling the truth. Like I said I believe that the government fucked up royally. Now the question is was it done intentionally or not?
Your problem is that you only see the issue as black and white. Either you believe that the US government orchestrated the attacks or you are a neo-con pasty. There are many people who do not support this administration's action but who do not believe that they orchestrated the attacks simply because the facts to don't line up to prove so.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
It's a black and white situation....you can't pick and choose. 9/11 was a fork in the road. If 9/11 happened at face value like Bush said, your country is under attack. You are under attack. You have a moral obligation to support your president.
ummmmm......ok.???
Seeing visions of falling up somehow.
Pensacola '94 New Orleans '95 Birmingham '98 New Orleans '00 New Orleans '03 Tampa '08 New Orleans '10 - Jazzfest New Orleans '16 - Jazzfest Fenway Park '18 St. Louis '22
By controlled demolition. I guess that is where they orchestrated everything and they needed to make sure that they destroyed the evidence and toppling a 40+ story building is far easier then using a paper shredder.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
It's a black and white situation....you can't pick and choose. 9/11 was a fork in the road. If 9/11 happened at face value like Bush said, your country is under attack. You are under attack. You have a moral obligation to support your president or you are a traitor.
Now you sound like Bush. You are either with us or against us.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
I never said he was telling the truth. Like I said I believe that the government fucked up royally. Now the question is was it done intentionally or not?
Your problem is that you only see the issue as black and white. Either you believe that the US government orchestrated the attacks or you are a neo-con pasty. There are many people who do not support this administration's action but who do not believe that they orchestrated the attacks simply because the facts to don't line up to prove so.
You either believe what you were told about 9/11 or not. You can't have your cake and it eat too in this scenario.
"you are either with us, or you are with the terrorists" is what he told you.
Pick your side. If 9/11 was real, you now have a moral obligation to defend your country.
Support your leader.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Now you sound like Bush. You are either with us or against us.
That's the reality. Your country was attacked, you are at war.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
They blew it up with either demolition or lasers from space. No other explanation will make sense to you so why bother answering. Other explanations have been posted over and over on here yet the question still comes up. So it must be demolition or lasers from space as I have seen both of these explanations posted on here.
Seeing visions of falling up somehow.
Pensacola '94 New Orleans '95 Birmingham '98 New Orleans '00 New Orleans '03 Tampa '08 New Orleans '10 - Jazzfest New Orleans '16 - Jazzfest Fenway Park '18 St. Louis '22
You either believe what you were told about 9/11 or not. You can't have your cake and it eat too in this scenario.
"you are either with us, or you are with the terrorists" is what he told you.
Pick your side. If 9/11 was real, you now have a moral obligation to defend your country.
Support your leader.
I'm sorry but you can have your cake and eat it too in this scenario. It's called common sense and I choose to us it in this scenario.
Seeing visions of falling up somehow.
Pensacola '94 New Orleans '95 Birmingham '98 New Orleans '00 New Orleans '03 Tampa '08 New Orleans '10 - Jazzfest New Orleans '16 - Jazzfest Fenway Park '18 St. Louis '22
I'm sorry but you can have your cake and eat it too in this scenario. It's called common sense and I choose to us it in this scenario.
explain this common sense...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Well you did make me laugh so I will end my part in this debate on that high note.
Peace and I wish i could meet you at a show and buy you a beer.
Seeing visions of falling up somehow.
Pensacola '94 New Orleans '95 Birmingham '98 New Orleans '00 New Orleans '03 Tampa '08 New Orleans '10 - Jazzfest New Orleans '16 - Jazzfest Fenway Park '18 St. Louis '22
Well you did make me laugh so I will end my part in this debate on that high note.
Peace and I wish i could meet you at a show and buy you a beer.
So terrorism does not exist, but your country got attacked by it?
Or....you would just not rather not defend your country is your answer. Someone else will do it right?
Which?
You don't have to answer.
(I'll take the show and beer thanks :cool: .)
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
So terrorism does not exist, but your country got attacked by it?
Or....you would just not rather not defend your country is your answer. Someone else will do it right?
Which?
You don't have to answer.
(I'll take the show and beer thanks :cool: .)
I can't speak for everyone but I was initially behind the President after 9/11 and the invasion of Afghanistan. He lost me and many others with the unnecessary and unjust war in Iraq.
I think we still have work to do against Al Queda in the region.
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You went on a rant...plain and simple.
again splitting hairs is what you want to do, on what your interpretation of reality is...which is pointless and stupid from a time perspective..
Go fight the war on terrorism. if you believe the case is bulletproof.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
You are so predictable.
I told you they would ignore that post and just ask more questions or say something this ignorant.
That post broke down everything you believe happened and when you read it all together it is easy to understand why some people see the story as being truly unbelievable.
I won't stoop to your level and insinuate that people are stupid for believing differently. Because in the end I can't blame you because there is no way that you would know that I can't stand politicians or the way our country has been run the past few years. It is just easier for you and your propaganda to paint with broad strokes and lump people into categories.
But who cares! I'm going to see Pearl Jam in 24 days.
Pensacola '94
New Orleans '95
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New Orleans '00
New Orleans '03
Tampa '08
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Go fight the war on terrorism You believe in it.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Go fight the war on terror if you're sold on it...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Again, what makes you think that I believe this. Because I don't believe your fantasy story of the events of 9/11??
You are obviously a smart guy but it isn't very smart to conclude something like this because someone believes differently.
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New Orleans '95
Birmingham '98
New Orleans '00
New Orleans '03
Tampa '08
New Orleans '10 - Jazzfest
New Orleans '16 - Jazzfest
Fenway Park '18
St. Louis '22
You crack me up man. You are so predictable it's actually pretty entertaining. You have the same MO every time. Some one disagrees with you, you debate back and forth. The person hands you the internet equivalent of a smack down and you resort to calling them Neo-Cons and making wild unsubstanciated assumptions about them.
He does that because he has no leg to stand on. I clearly outlined what he believes occurred that day and any logical person can see how utterly ridiculous that is. So since he can't defend his stance he will resort to making stupid assumptions about the people who disagree with him. It's what he always does.
You crack me up also. It's beyond convincing you of anything because you only want to see what you want to see, and not address anything I've pointed out. You're pretty predictable also in that regard. You trust the govt at face value to what they say so...are you a patriot or traitor?
A real patriot would be over there fighting for the cause they truly believe in instead of sitting behind a computer chatting on a forum about it.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
hubris
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Who said I believed the government's story. I simply stated that I don't believe that the government executed the attacks. Also just to clear up the confusion, to help prevent you from looking like an even bigger ass than you already do, I have never since day one supported our invasion of Iraq nor to I support the over-all war against terrorism. You cannot fight an ideal with military might. So you can keep your extremely inaccurate childish assumption to yourself.
So you believe Bush is right , but don't want to do anything about it?
I suppose that's your prerogative.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
If you believe Bush is telling the truth on 9/11. Then you should be supporting him.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
No, I don't believe Bush is 100% right and I am going to do something about it by not voting for Bush III (Cheney).
Do I think the government could have had knowledge of the attacks but ignored that knowledge out of sheer ignorance? Maybe, or maybe they were so egotistical that they didn't think it could happen to us.
Did they use these attacks as an excuse to attack Iraq? YES
Did they plan and orchestrate the attacks? No, not possible in my opinion.
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New Orleans '95
Birmingham '98
New Orleans '00
New Orleans '03
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New Orleans '16 - Jazzfest
Fenway Park '18
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Just go to page 6 and read the post that summarizes about how it all went down. It will answer all your questions.
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It's a black and white situation....you can't pick and choose. 9/11 was a fork in the road. If 9/11 happened at face value like Bush said, your country is under attack. You are under attack. You have a moral obligation to support your president or you are a traitor.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
I never said he was telling the truth. Like I said I believe that the government fucked up royally. Now the question is was it done intentionally or not?
Your problem is that you only see the issue as black and white. Either you believe that the US government orchestrated the attacks or you are a neo-con pasty. There are many people who do not support this administration's action but who do not believe that they orchestrated the attacks simply because the facts to don't line up to prove so.
ummmmm......ok.???
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By controlled demolition. I guess that is where they orchestrated everything and they needed to make sure that they destroyed the evidence and toppling a 40+ story building is far easier then using a paper shredder.
Now you sound like Bush. You are either with us or against us.
You either believe what you were told about 9/11 or not. You can't have your cake and it eat too in this scenario.
"you are either with us, or you are with the terrorists" is what he told you.
Pick your side. If 9/11 was real, you now have a moral obligation to defend your country.
Support your leader.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
That's the reality. Your country was attacked, you are at war.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
They blew it up with either demolition or lasers from space. No other explanation will make sense to you so why bother answering. Other explanations have been posted over and over on here yet the question still comes up. So it must be demolition or lasers from space as I have seen both of these explanations posted on here.
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New Orleans '95
Birmingham '98
New Orleans '00
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Tampa '08
New Orleans '10 - Jazzfest
New Orleans '16 - Jazzfest
Fenway Park '18
St. Louis '22
I'm sorry but you can have your cake and eat it too in this scenario. It's called common sense and I choose to us it in this scenario.
Pensacola '94
New Orleans '95
Birmingham '98
New Orleans '00
New Orleans '03
Tampa '08
New Orleans '10 - Jazzfest
New Orleans '16 - Jazzfest
Fenway Park '18
St. Louis '22
explain this common sense...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Well you did make me laugh so I will end my part in this debate on that high note.
Peace and I wish i could meet you at a show and buy you a beer.
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New Orleans '95
Birmingham '98
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St. Louis '22
So terrorism does not exist, but your country got attacked by it?
Or....you would just not rather not defend your country is your answer. Someone else will do it right?
Which?
You don't have to answer.
(I'll take the show and beer thanks :cool: .)
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
I can't speak for everyone but I was initially behind the President after 9/11 and the invasion of Afghanistan. He lost me and many others with the unnecessary and unjust war in Iraq.
I think we still have work to do against Al Queda in the region.
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On that logic,if what you say is true shouldn't you be outside the White House with a gun right now trying to save us all?
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.
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