Is Obama going to stop the war?

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ledvedderman wrote:

No, but we were pretty close. We had Bin Laden at Torra Bora and we just missed him. While we were hot on his trails we shifted our focus to the clusterfuck of Iraq.

you did say that

ledvedderman

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Benazir Bhutto clearly stated in a BBC interview about a month before we assassinated her the man's name who murdered Bin Laden

like i said b4, do some research

Well this is the first I've heard of it and I will do some research.

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ledvedderman wrote:

They are guilty because they let all of this happen under their noses. They would not let us come into their country to go after Al Qaeda. As much as I hate to use the word, they were "harboring" the terrorists who had just killed 3,000 American civilians. That's guilty by association in my book.

with that thinking you are guilty by association for the million dead people in Iraq, right?

ledvedderman

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you did say that

I said that the President shifted all of our resources to Iraq and took his eye off of Osama Bin Laden. How that is my fault of my candidates fault is beyond me.

ledvedderman

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with that thinking you are guilty by association for the million dead people in Iraq, right?

If I am than so are you.

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ledvedderman wrote:

I said that the President shifted all of our resources to Iraq and took his eye off of Osama Bin Laden. How that is my fault of my candidates fault is beyond me.

put the joint down and pay attention to the conversation, ok?

go back and read

your candidate is a member of the CFR the same organization that placed Bush in power

isn't that your guilty by association theory?

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ledvedderman wrote:

If I am than so are you.

how so, I never once was blinded by the MSM lies

but i bet you fell, hook, line, and sinker

ledvedderman

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your candidate is a member of the Republican Party, the same organization that placed Bush in power

How's that sound for Ron Paul? Oh, we can't touch him. He isn't guilty by association.

If Obama is so neck deep in the CFR don't you think they would have had him never mention anything about sending troops into Pakistan to find Osama, or that they would have him pipe down on the removal of US troops.

Put your political cap on and answer those.

ledvedderman

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how so, I never once was blinded by the MSM lies

but i bet you fell, hook, line, and sinker

Can't say I ever fell for that one.

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the only thing the Taliban is guilty of is human rights violations

again, do your research, the Taliban offered a deal with the U.S. Government to turn over Osama if the U.S. would produce proof that he was the guilty party

even on Osama's FBI record it does not mention 911

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ledvedderman wrote:

Can't say I ever fell for that one.

one for leddipshit

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ledvedderman wrote:

How's that sound for Ron Paul? Oh, we can't touch him. He isn't guilty by association.

If Obama is so neck deep in the CFR don't you think they would have had him never mention anything about sending troops into Pakistan to find Osama, or that they would have him pipe down on the removal of US troops.

Put your political cap on and answer those.

but he is trying to change the party from the inside, all you can produce is a "Redeployment" Bill

hahahahahahahaha

at least Ron Paul does stand for change, he's not just lying about it to get votes

why do you think he's been blackballed?

ledvedderman

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the only thing the Taliban is guilty of is human rights violations

again, do your research, the Taliban offered a deal with the U.S. Government to turn over Osama if the U.S. would produce proof that he was the guilty party

even on Osama's FBI record it does not mention 911

I've done more than enough research, sonny boy.

Believe it or not, 2 years ago I was one of the biggest 9/11 cover up guys on this board. I went round after round with jlew on it. I did more and more research and have formed my own opinion on how it all went down.

ledvedderman

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but he is trying to change the party from the inside, all you can produce is a "Redeployment" Bill

hahahahahahahaha

at least Ron Paul does stand for change, he's not just lying about it to get votes

why do you think he's been blackballed?

He's been blackballed because he's an anti-war Republican running for President on the Republican ticket.

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ledvedderman wrote:

He's been blackballed because he's an anti-war Republican running for President on the Republican ticket.

you just said what i said

he's trying to change the party from within

thank you for making my point so clear

ledvedderman

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you just said what i said

he's trying to change the party from within

thank you for making my point so clear

No problem. (Someones got to clear up your jargon) I agree 100% that Ron Paul is trying to change the party. He's up against some powerful foes on his side of the aisle. I would love to see the Republican party get back to their original form which Dr. Paul is spearheading...I just don't see it happening.

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ledvedderman wrote:

I've done more than enough research, sonny boy.

Believe it or not, 2 years ago I was one of the biggest 9/11 cover up guys on this board. I went round after round with jlew on it. I did more and more research and have formed my own opinion on how it all went down.

it doesn't sound like it if you are blaming the Taliban for 911 because of association

they actually tried to be diplomatic and end the War b4 it started

but Bush and his Warmonger Buddies would have no part of that

War = Money for Haliburton, Exxon, Mobil, Bell Helicopter, etc, etc, etc

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ledvedderman wrote:

No problem. (Someones got to clear up your jargon) I agree 100% that Ron Paul is trying to change the party. He's up against some powerful foes on his side of the aisle. I would love to see the Republican party get back to their original form which Dr. Paul is spearheading...I just don't see it happening.

and your Candidate is part of the problem

you wait and see what happens if he wins

you'll see, and you'll be sorry

ledvedderman

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it doesn't sound like it if you are blaming the Taliban for 911 because of association

they actually tried to be diplomatic and end the War b4 it started

but Bush and his Warmonger Buddies would have no part of that

War = Money for Haliburton, Exxon, Mobil, Bell Helicopter, etc, etc, etc

We can agree to disagree on the aspect of the Taliban offering Osama. I've seen plenty of arguments for both sides.

We are on the same page w/ the warmongering profiteers connected to the Bush administration. It's sickening what they have got away with.

Our difference is you think that would continue w/ Obama. I do not. Lets just leave it at that as a difference of opinions.

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ledvedderman wrote:

No problem. (Someones got to clear up your jargon) I agree 100% that Ron Paul is trying to change the party. He's up against some powerful foes on his side of the aisle. I would love to see the Republican party get back to their original form which Dr. Paul is spearheading...I just don't see it happening.

agreed, i gave up on Ron Paul after Super Tuesday

I still think he is the best Candidate

and I still believe in most of his philosophies

but they will not allow him to win