Is Obama going to stop the war?

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  • I just now saw it.

    You really think covert ops could have gotten the job done in Afghanistan? Taken care of Al Qaeda and eliminated the Taliban regime?

    Could it have worked in Iraq? Maybe. It doesn't matter, though. We wouldn't have needed to take Sadaam out anyway. He posed no threat to us though.

    plus the Taliban had nothing to do with 911

    it was the group we trained to fight the Soviets that were the problem

    we called them Freedom Fighters when we were training them

    why is the Taliban guilty?

    human rights violations?

    we have committed more human rights violations that they ever dreamed of
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  • so you agree War is not needed

    and ask yourself this, have we gotten the job done this way?

    also why can reporters find Osama but our Military can't?

    something is wrong with that, seriously

    No, I do not agree that war is not needed. In Afghanistan it was, in Iraq it clearly was not. Why do you keep assuming that I support the war in Iraq? Look at my fucking signature.

    Do I think we had the job done in Afghanistan? No, but we were pretty close. We had Bin Laden at Torra Bora and we just missed him. While we were hot on his trails we shifted our focus to the clusterfuck of Iraq. I have no idea why we can't find him. We can't find him because we have limited resources there and the President could give a shit about finding him.
  • plus the Taliban had nothing to do with 911

    it was the group we trained to fight the Soviets that were the problem

    we called them Freedom Fighters when we were training them

    why is the Taliban guilty?

    human rights violations?

    we have committed more human rights violations that they ever dreamed of

    They are guilty because they let all of this happen under their noses. They would not let us come into their country to go after Al Qaeda. As much as I hate to use the word, they were "harboring" the terrorists who had just killed 3,000 American civilians. That's guilty by association in my book.
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    No, I do not agree that war is not needed. In Afghanistan it was, in Iraq it clearly was not. Why do you keep assuming that I support the war in Iraq? Look at my fucking signature.

    Do I think we had the job done in Afghanistan? No, but we were pretty close. We had Bin Laden at Torra Bora and we just missed him. While we were hot on his trails we shifted our focus to the clusterfuck of Iraq. I have no idea why we can't find him. We can't find him because we have limited resources there and the President could give a shit about finding him.
    Our government has let Osama go many times. Most likely he died in December of 01. All his recent videos have been proven fake.
  • No, I do not agree that war is not needed. In Afghanistan it was, in Iraq it clearly was not. Why do you keep assuming that I support the war in Iraq? Look at my fucking signature.

    Do I think we had the job done in Afghanistan? No, but we were pretty close. We had Bin Laden at Torra Bora and we just missed him. While we were hot on his trails we shifted our focus to the clusterfuck of Iraq. I have no idea why we can't find him. We can't find him because we have limited resources there and the President could give a shit about finding him.

    repeating what Bush says will not lend you any credibilty here my friend

    i use that term friend loosley

    ps: so we are too busy building Permanent Bases in Iraq to finish the job we set out to do, do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds?
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  • Nevermind wrote:
    Our government has let Osama go many times. Most likely he died in December of 01. All his recent videos have been proven fake.

    How have they been proven fake? Show me something that shows this and I'll base an opinion on it.
  • Nevermind wrote:
    Our government has let Osama go many times. Most likely he died in December of 01. All his recent videos have been proven fake.

    thank you

    i was gonna say that, but most people believe he is still alive

    i was gonna let him keep living in his fantasy world
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  • repeating what Bush says will not lend you any credibilty here my friend

    i use that term friend loosley

    ps: so we are too busy building Permanent Bases in Iraq to finish the job we set out to do, do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds?

    How am I repeating what Bush has said?

    Go ahead, use it "loosley"...whatever the hell that means.

    About your "ps"- I never said anything close to that at all.
  • How have they been proven fake? Show me something that shows this and I'll base an opinion on it.

    Benazir Bhutto clearly stated in a BBC interview about a month before we assassinated her the man's name who murdered Bin Laden

    like i said b4, do some research
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  • thank you

    i was gonna say that, but most people believe he is still alive

    i was gonna let him keep living in his fantasy world

    I'm clearly the one living in a fantasy world. You don't even read what people say. You've got it in your head what you think they're saying and spew it out as if it were fact they said that.
  • No, but we were pretty close. We had Bin Laden at Torra Bora and we just missed him. While we were hot on his trails we shifted our focus to the clusterfuck of Iraq.

    you did say that
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  • Benazir Bhutto clearly stated in a BBC interview about a month before we assassinated her the man's name who murdered Bin Laden

    like i said b4, do some research

    Well this is the first I've heard of it and I will do some research.
  • They are guilty because they let all of this happen under their noses. They would not let us come into their country to go after Al Qaeda. As much as I hate to use the word, they were "harboring" the terrorists who had just killed 3,000 American civilians. That's guilty by association in my book.

    with that thinking you are guilty by association for the million dead people in Iraq, right?
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  • you did say that

    I said that the President shifted all of our resources to Iraq and took his eye off of Osama Bin Laden. How that is my fault of my candidates fault is beyond me.
  • with that thinking you are guilty by association for the million dead people in Iraq, right?

    If I am than so are you.
  • I said that the President shifted all of our resources to Iraq and took his eye off of Osama Bin Laden. How that is my fault of my candidates fault is beyond me.

    put the joint down and pay attention to the conversation, ok?

    go back and read

    your candidate is a member of the CFR the same organization that placed Bush in power

    isn't that your guilty by association theory?
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  • If I am than so are you.

    how so, I never once was blinded by the MSM lies

    but i bet you fell, hook, line, and sinker
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  • your candidate is a member of the Republican Party, the same organization that placed Bush in power

    How's that sound for Ron Paul? Oh, we can't touch him. He isn't guilty by association.

    If Obama is so neck deep in the CFR don't you think they would have had him never mention anything about sending troops into Pakistan to find Osama, or that they would have him pipe down on the removal of US troops.

    Put your political cap on and answer those.
  • how so, I never once was blinded by the MSM lies

    but i bet you fell, hook, line, and sinker

    Can't say I ever fell for that one.
  • the only thing the Taliban is guilty of is human rights violations

    again, do your research, the Taliban offered a deal with the U.S. Government to turn over Osama if the U.S. would produce proof that he was the guilty party

    even on Osama's FBI record it does not mention 911
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  • Can't say I ever fell for that one.

    one for leddipshit
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  • How's that sound for Ron Paul? Oh, we can't touch him. He isn't guilty by association.

    If Obama is so neck deep in the CFR don't you think they would have had him never mention anything about sending troops into Pakistan to find Osama, or that they would have him pipe down on the removal of US troops.

    Put your political cap on and answer those.

    but he is trying to change the party from the inside, all you can produce is a "Redeployment" Bill

    hahahahahahahaha

    at least Ron Paul does stand for change, he's not just lying about it to get votes

    why do you think he's been blackballed?
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  • the only thing the Taliban is guilty of is human rights violations

    again, do your research, the Taliban offered a deal with the U.S. Government to turn over Osama if the U.S. would produce proof that he was the guilty party

    even on Osama's FBI record it does not mention 911

    I've done more than enough research, sonny boy.

    Believe it or not, 2 years ago I was one of the biggest 9/11 cover up guys on this board. I went round after round with jlew on it. I did more and more research and have formed my own opinion on how it all went down.
  • but he is trying to change the party from the inside, all you can produce is a "Redeployment" Bill

    hahahahahahahaha

    at least Ron Paul does stand for change, he's not just lying about it to get votes

    why do you think he's been blackballed?

    He's been blackballed because he's an anti-war Republican running for President on the Republican ticket.
  • He's been blackballed because he's an anti-war Republican running for President on the Republican ticket.

    you just said what i said

    he's trying to change the party from within

    thank you for making my point so clear
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  • you just said what i said

    he's trying to change the party from within

    thank you for making my point so clear

    No problem. (Someones got to clear up your jargon) I agree 100% that Ron Paul is trying to change the party. He's up against some powerful foes on his side of the aisle. I would love to see the Republican party get back to their original form which Dr. Paul is spearheading...I just don't see it happening.
  • I've done more than enough research, sonny boy.

    Believe it or not, 2 years ago I was one of the biggest 9/11 cover up guys on this board. I went round after round with jlew on it. I did more and more research and have formed my own opinion on how it all went down.

    it doesn't sound like it if you are blaming the Taliban for 911 because of association

    they actually tried to be diplomatic and end the War b4 it started

    but Bush and his Warmonger Buddies would have no part of that

    War = Money for Haliburton, Exxon, Mobil, Bell Helicopter, etc, etc, etc
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  • No problem. (Someones got to clear up your jargon) I agree 100% that Ron Paul is trying to change the party. He's up against some powerful foes on his side of the aisle. I would love to see the Republican party get back to their original form which Dr. Paul is spearheading...I just don't see it happening.

    and your Candidate is part of the problem

    you wait and see what happens if he wins

    you'll see, and you'll be sorry
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  • it doesn't sound like it if you are blaming the Taliban for 911 because of association

    they actually tried to be diplomatic and end the War b4 it started

    but Bush and his Warmonger Buddies would have no part of that

    War = Money for Haliburton, Exxon, Mobil, Bell Helicopter, etc, etc, etc

    We can agree to disagree on the aspect of the Taliban offering Osama. I've seen plenty of arguments for both sides.

    We are on the same page w/ the warmongering profiteers connected to the Bush administration. It's sickening what they have got away with.

    Our difference is you think that would continue w/ Obama. I do not. Lets just leave it at that as a difference of opinions.
  • No problem. (Someones got to clear up your jargon) I agree 100% that Ron Paul is trying to change the party. He's up against some powerful foes on his side of the aisle. I would love to see the Republican party get back to their original form which Dr. Paul is spearheading...I just don't see it happening.

    agreed, i gave up on Ron Paul after Super Tuesday

    I still think he is the best Candidate

    and I still believe in most of his philosophies

    but they will not allow him to win
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