Is Obama going to stop the war?

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  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    cornnifer wrote:
    He never voted for it, and was very public and outspoken in his opposition to it. His opposition to the Iraq war is very much on the record. Give it up.


    give what up...you think im trying to trick you?? you idiots are trying to tell people that the senate has no power


    you give it up! whya re you blindly following lies...whats its advantage to you..why the fuck are you lying to yourself..it makes no sense.. im not harming you
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    MrSmith wrote:
    there seems to be a lot you dont understand.

    2 questions:

    what is McCain's stance on the war?

    what can democratic congressman who are against the war do to stop the war tommorrow?

    since you didnt answer the questions i thought i'd repost them for you to give you another chance
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    cornnifer wrote:
    He never voted for it, and was very public and outspoken in his opposition to it. His opposition to the Iraq war is very much on the record. Give it up.


    who gives a shit about his opposition..what does that do for us?
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    MrSmith wrote:
    since you didnt answer the questions i thought i'd repost them for you to give you another chance


    McCain does not want to withdrawal troops and he is still Interested in finding bin laden which a a good thing..


    and what can they do to stop war?


    1)they have to attend
    2)vote
    3) pass bills so that the president can veto them daily
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    macgyver06 wrote:
    1)they have to attend
    2)vote
    3) pass bills so that the president can veto them daily

    and this accomplishes what?

    which accomplishes more? defeating a pro war presidential candidate in an election or showing up in Washington for meaningless votes?
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    macgyver06 wrote:
    ??

    That doesn't sound like "continuation of the war" to you....
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  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    ledvedderman wrote:
    That doesn't sound like "continuation of the war" to you....


    i understand that... dude.. its not his platform! he isnt going to get in debates and tell you he is going to war with iran..he isnt going to tell you we are sending millions more to iraq... ITS NOT HIS PLATFORM AND IS NO PRESIDENTS PLATFORM
  • MasterFramer
    MasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    macgyver06 wrote:
    you still dont understand the concept...which is making it hard to argue

    HIS PLATFORM IS NOT CONTINUATION OF WAR

    Exactly, Obama said in Seattle he wants to end the war by 2009. It is amazing at this point in the process people are still trying to distort his positions. Its not going to work. He will sweep tomorrow and use that momentum to take with Ohio or Texas OR both. Get ready for Obama vs McCain.
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  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    MrSmith wrote:
    and this accomplishes what?

    which accomplishes more? defeating a pro war presidential candidate in an election or showing up in Washington for meaningless votes?

    hahahahahahahaahahahahahahaahahahahaa i hope you are kidding with this question
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    MasterFramer wrote:
    Exactly, Obama said in Seattle he wants to end the war by 2009. It is amazing at this point in the process people are still trying to distort his positions. Its not going to work. He will sweep tomorrow and use that momentum to take with Ohio or Texas OR both. Get ready for Obama vs McCain.



    end what war!?

    it is amazing you accept half truths. and are some kind of fan of another human who has done nothing for you
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    macgyver06 wrote:
    i understand that... dude.. its not his platform! he isnt going to get in debates and tell you he is going to war with iran..he isnt going to tell you we are sending millions more to iraq... ITS NOT HIS PLATFORM AND IS NO PRESIDENTS PLATFORM

    I will agree with you here. However, McCain has done plenty of tough talking on Iran that would lead the far right hawkish wing to believe he would go after Iran. Sometimes that is all it takes.
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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    macgyver06 wrote:
    hahahahahahahaahahahahahahaahahahahaa i hope you are kidding with this question

    hahah you are completely lost.

    by the way: answer it
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    macgyver06 wrote:
    end what war!?

    it is amazing you accept half truths. and are some kind of fan of another human who has done nothing for you

    Now we're just splitting hairs. I'm sure he means Iraq.
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  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    ledvedderman wrote:
    Now we're just splitting hairs. I'm sure he means Iraq.


    im against war at any cost... these people arent... and you dont recognize it!
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    MrSmith wrote:
    hahah you are completely lost.

    by the way: answer it


    Im not answering a question that suggests the president is more powerful than the senate..

    i am educated.
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    macgyver06 wrote:
    i understand that... dude.. its not his platform! he isnt going to get in debates and tell you he is going to war with iran..he isnt going to tell you we are sending millions more to iraq... ITS NOT HIS PLATFORM AND IS NO PRESIDENTS PLATFORM

    He IS going into debates and voicing his support for continuing the war and supporting troop surges! do you deny this? do you need a youtube clip or something? have you watched any of the debates? THIS IS PART OF HIS PLATFORM
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    macgyver06 wrote:
    Im not answering a question that suggests the president is more powerful than the senate..

    i am educated.

    so the president can't veto every bill that gets sent his way?

    he is more powerful than the senate (and the house, which you keep leaving out) if they cant get enough votes to override a veto.

    how can you deny this?
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    and by the way. what is your education?
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    MrSmith wrote:
    He IS going into debates and voicing his support for continuing the war and supporting troop surges! do you deny this? do you need a youtube clip or something? have you watched any of the debates? THIS IS PART OF HIS PLATFORM


    THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    MrSmith wrote:
    so the president can't veto every bill that gets sent his way?

    he is more powerful than the senate (and the house, which you keep leaving out) if they cant get enough votes to override a veto.

    how can you deny this?


    you dont understand the system.. you think these votes go unnoticed? you dont think if there are votes everyday to end this thing it would go unnoticed by us??


    use your brain..thats all iask... think about the idea of voting to end this thing everyday and the kind of pressure it would put on those who would like to keep their jobs in the senate and the president himself.

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