Is Obama going to stop the war?

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  • prismprism Posts: 2,440
    In January 2007, he introduced legislation in the Senate to remove all of our combat troops from Iraq by March 2008.



    what was that about how he hasn't done anything thus far as a Senator to make an attempt at getting out of Iraq?
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  • prism wrote:
    In January 2007, he introduced legislation in the Senate to remove all of our combat troops from Iraq by March 2008.



    what was that about how he hasn't done anything thus far as a Senator to make an attempt at getting out of Iraq?

    "Down goes Frazier! Down goes Frazier!"
  • chipboy wrote:
    What's the general concensus?

    no, he has no plan for change, just a catch phrase gullible people are buying into
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  • prism wrote:
    In January 2007, he introduced legislation in the Senate to remove all of our combat troops from Iraq by March 2008.



    what was that about how he hasn't done anything thus far as a Senator to make an attempt at getting out of Iraq?

    source it.......
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  • "Down goes Frazier! Down goes Frazier!"

    if Obama was really against the war, he would grab a m16 and storm the White House. he's such a fake.
  • prismprism Posts: 2,440
    "Down goes Frazier! Down goes Frazier!"


    LOL! :D:p
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  • If Obama were really against the war he would blow up every country. No other countries in the world= no more foreign wars.

    It's just that simple folks.
  • prismprism Posts: 2,440
    source it.......

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/30/AR2007013001586.html

    edit: i see that ledvedderman already has but this is an additional source
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  • hahahahahaha

    "Phased Redeployment" does not mean stopping the War

    it means starting another War

    the important word is "Redeployment"
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  • hahahahahaha

    "Phased Redeployment" does not mean stopping the War

    it means starting another War

    the important word is "Redeployment"

    Is that what it means you legislative guru you? I don't know if this is what the wording meant, but wouldn't it make sense to have our troops in a war against a group that attacked us? Redeploy the troops to Afghanistan which has fallen into chaos since we took the eye of the ball to go into Iraq.
  • Is that what it means you legislative guru you? I don't know if this is what the wording meant, but wouldn't it make sense to have our troops in a war against a group that attacked us? Redeploy the troops to Afghanistan which has fallen into chaos since we took the eye of the ball to go into Iraq.

    here are the facts

    8 PERMANENT Military bases have been built in Iraq, plus the largest U.S. Embassy in the World

    we are never leaving there

    if you research Bush's signing statements, we will be permanently in Iraq forever, plus the Agreement arranged by Bush and our installed Dictator in Iraq plainly states we are there to stay, it is actually a Treaty for us to extend the War indefinitely

    just like Korea, just like Japan, just like Germany, etc, etc, etc
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  • here are the facts

    8 PERMANENT Military bases have been built in Iraq, plus the largest U.S. Embassy in the World

    we are never leaving there

    if you research Bush's signing statements, we will be permanently in Iraq forever, plus the Agreement arranged by Bush and our installed Dictator in Iraq plainly states we are there to stay, it is actually a Treaty for us to extend the War indefinitely

    just like Korea, just like Japan, just like Germany, etc, etc, etc

    Source that shows those bases have to be filled w/ permanent troops?
  • Is that what it means you legislative guru you? I don't know if this is what the wording meant, but wouldn't it make sense to have our troops in a war against a group that attacked us? Redeploy the troops to Afghanistan which has fallen into chaos since we took the eye of the ball to go into Iraq.

    so you arent' against War

    at least you are honest

    don't you think we've destroyed both of those Countries and killed countless innocent people

    I would say we are even for the damage done on 911

    actually we caused way more damage to them than they could ever do to us

    War is not the answer when a covert operation would accomplish the same thing without all the innocent bloodshed

    War is Profitable for the Establishment and their buddies

    don't you see what's goin on?
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  • Source that shows those bases have to be filled w/ permanent troops?

    they won't be filled with permanent troops until they institute the Draft, which has been introduced under various bills since 911

    but the fact that they are Permanent Bases really says it all
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  • so you arent' against War

    at least you are honest

    don't you think we've destroyed both of those Countries and killed countless innocent people

    I would say we are even for the damage done on 911

    actually we caused way more damage to them than they could ever do to us

    War is not the answer when a covert operation would accomplish the same thing without all the innocent bloodshed

    War is Profitable for the Establishment and their buddies

    don't you see what's goin on?

    I am against wars of choice. A war of retaliation is totally different in, in my book. You can't just let someone come in and kill 3,000 of your citizens and on the next day look those people in the eye who lost loved ones and say "we're going to let them get away with this one".

    War is hell. It does no one good, except those who profit. Right now it is profitable for the buddies of the administartion, but a Obama administration wouldn't give no bid contracts to cronies.
  • they won't be filled with permanent troops until they institute the Draft, which has been introduced under various bills since 911

    but the fact that they are Permanent Bases really says it all

    So you debunked your own reply w/ another reply. There will be no draft. It has been introduced, but it will never pass. It's a political ploy being used right now.
  • I am against wars of choice. A war of retaliation is totally different in, in my book. You can't just let someone come in and kill 3,000 of your citizens and on the next day look those people in the eye who lost loved ones and say "we're going to let them get away with this one".

    War is hell. It does no one good, except those who profit. Right now it is profitable for the buddies of the administartion, but a Obama administration wouldn't give no bid contracts to cronies.

    so 3000 innocent American Civilians killed on 911

    plus 4000 American Soldiers killed

    equals a Million dead Iraqis

    this math doesnt seem to make sense

    and that's not counting all the innocent people we have killed in the actual Country that attacked us
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  • So you debunked your own reply w/ another reply. There will be no draft. It has been introduced, but it will never pass. It's a political ploy being used right now.

    it will pass sooner or later

    their persistence is proof of that
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  • so 3000 innocent American Civilians killed on 911

    plus 4000 American Soldiers killed

    equals a Million dead Iraqis

    this math doesnt seem to make sense

    and that's not counting all the innocent people we have killed in the actual Country that attacked us

    Why are you comparing Iraq to 9/11? If you had the use of your eyes and the ability to read you would see that I said I was against a war of choice...like Iraq.
  • I am against wars of choice. A war of retaliation is totally different in, in my book. You can't just let someone come in and kill 3,000 of your citizens and on the next day look those people in the eye who lost loved ones and say "we're going to let them get away with this one".

    War is hell. It does no one good, except those who profit. Right now it is profitable for the buddies of the administartion, but a Obama administration wouldn't give no bid contracts to cronies.

    plus Obama is a Member of the CFR, same buddies as Bush

    do some research
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  • it will pass sooner or later

    their persistence is proof of that

    No, it won't. The draft won't come back.
  • Why are you comparing Iraq to 9/11? If you had the use of your eyes and the ability to read you would see that I said I was against a war of choice...like Iraq.

    I'm against a War of anykind when we have the ability to use covert ops to accomplish the same thing

    and also is more precise and not destructive to the infrastructure of a Country

    doesn't that make sense?
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  • No, it won't. The draft won't come back.

    they are counting on you to think that way
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  • plus Obama is a Member of the CFR, same buddies as Bush

    do some research

    Ooooh there it is. The CFR card. When you are pinned in a corner you pull that out. I'm just curious, do you know what the CFR is? It's almost like me saying your boy Ron Paul has the same buddies as Bush because they are both Republicans from Texas.

    Don't you think the CFR would have stepped in by now if he was so close to them to tell him to cool it on the anti-war front?

    EDIT-

    When Obama mentioned going into Pakistan to get Osama Bin Laden... how UN-CFR'y of him.
  • they are counting on you to think that way

    No. They are counting on people like you to get all sorts of crazy about the draft.

    Politically the draft makes no sense for either party.
  • Ooooh there it is. The CFR card. When you are pinned in a corner you pull that out. I'm just curious, do you know what the CFR is? It's almost like me saying your boy Ron Paul has the same buddies as Bush because they are both Republicans from Texas.

    Don't you think the CFR would have stepped in by now if he was so close to them to tell him to cool it on the anti-war front?

    the CFR is real and their agenda is public

    plus they know Obama is pro war, say anti war all you want buddy

    wink wink nod nod

    (Obama is just more of the same, I am just speaking the Truth you don't want to hear)
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  • I'm against a War of anykind when we have the ability to use covert ops to accomplish the same thing

    and also is more precise and not destructive to the infrastructure of a Country

    doesn't that make sense?

    you never answered this
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  • you never answered this

    I just now saw it.

    You really think covert ops could have gotten the job done in Afghanistan? Taken care of Al Qaeda and eliminated the Taliban regime?

    Could it have worked in Iraq? Maybe. It doesn't matter, though. We wouldn't have needed to take Sadaam out anyway. He posed no threat to us though.
  • I just now saw it.

    You really think covert ops could have gotten the job done in Afghanistan? Taken care of Al Qaeda and eliminated the Taliban regime?

    Could it have worked in Iraq? Maybe. It doesn't matter, though. We wouldn't have needed to take Sadaam out anyway. He posed no threat to us though.

    so you agree War is not needed

    and ask yourself this, have we gotten the job done this way?

    also why can reporters find Osama but our Military can't?

    something is wrong with that, seriously
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