Is Obama going to stop the war?

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  • and your Candidate is part of the problem

    you wait and see what happens if he wins

    you'll see, and you'll be sorry

    We will have to wait and see. I'm sure you'll be the first one here saying how wrong you were when Obama pulls the troops out of Iraq. You seem like the type to admit when you are wrong.
  • agreed, i gave up on Ron Paul after Super Tuesday

    I still think he is the best Candidate

    and I still believe in most of his philosophies

    but they will not allow him to win

    Ron Pauls stances are not in line with mainstream Republican voters. That is why he won't win. No one is keeping him from winning. Like your signature states, "Change don't come at once, it's a wave building before it breaks". I think the Ron Paul movement will spark something on the GOP side that we won't see results to for years to come.
  • We can agree to disagree on the aspect of the Taliban offering Osama. I've seen plenty of arguments for both sides.

    We are on the same page w/ the warmongering profiteers connected to the Bush administration. It's sickening what they have got away with.

    Our difference is you think that would continue w/ Obama. I do not. Lets just leave it at that as a difference of opinions.

    but it will continue, go and find who the main contributors are to his campaign

    it might surprise you

    if he gets in office he is gonna owe all the same people that Bush owed for placing him in office

    no one rides for free

    pay the piper
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  • Ron Pauls stances are not in line with mainstream Republican voters. That is why he won't win. No one is keeping him from winning. Like your signature states, "Change don't come at once, it's a wave building before it breaks". I think the Ron Paul movement will spark something on the GOP side that we won't see results to for years to come.

    maybe.......

    my opinion is that they will run him out of his House Seat now

    he is a threat to the status quo
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  • but it will continue, go and find who the main contributors are to his campaign

    it might surprise you

    if he gets in office he is gonna owe all the same people that Bush owed for placing him in office

    no one rides for free

    pay the piper

    If I didn't have personal experience w/ the guy, I would probably have the same question. I do know though that he is as honest on the political side of things as he is personally. Out of every politician I have worked with, he is hands down the most honest---and I've worked with some great legislators.

    We'll just have to wait and see who is correct on this. If he doesn't win the nomination we'll have to wait a while I believe.
  • We will have to wait and see. I'm sure you'll be the first one here saying how wrong you were when Obama pulls the troops out of Iraq. You seem like the type to admit when you are wrong.

    if he pulls out the troops I'll be so happy I'll shit on myself, and yes I will admit I was wrong

    but i don't think it will play out that way

    I want all the troops home from both Wars, that's what I want, not just Iraq
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  • maybe.......

    my opinion is that they will run him out of his House Seat now

    he is a threat to the status quo

    I think he's got too big of a target on him now. They can't just go after him now. It's a lot like w/ Obama. Ron Paul is a movement and that's something that is hard to touch.

    That's all for me for today. It's been a pleasure once we got it civilized.
  • I think he's got too big of a target on him now. They can't just go after him now. It's a lot like w/ Obama. Ron Paul is a movement and that's something that is hard to touch.

    That's all for me for today. It's been a pleasure once we got it civilized.

    I still disagree with you on many things, but yes we can agree to disagree

    isn't that what this section is for?
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  • I think he's got too big of a target on him now. They can't just go after him now. It's a lot like w/ Obama. Ron Paul is a movement and that's something that is hard to touch.

    That's all for me for today. It's been a pleasure once we got it civilized.

    they are already beginning to run Kucinich out of his office which he has held for years and that's your party

    what makes you think Ron Paul will be any different?

    the Republicans are just as cut throat as the Democrats, if not more
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  • they are already beginning to run Kucinich out of his office which he has held for years and that's your party

    what makes you think Ron Paul will be any different?

    the Republicans are just as cut throat as the Democrats, if not more

    Last post of the day...

    To make it simple, Paul has brought a lot of new voters to the Republican Party, Dennis has not. Dennis has caught the extreme left of the Dems but did not bring in new Dems.
  • prismprism Posts: 2,440
    plus Obama is a Member of the CFR, same buddies as Bush

    do some research

    ah skippy, you got that wrong

    http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/CFRMembers.html#O


    go right ahead and scroll through the entire list...you will not find Obama listed because he is NOT a member of the CFR
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  • prism wrote:
    ah skippy, you got that wrong

    http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/CFRMembers.html#O


    go right ahead and scroll through the entire list...you will not find Obama listed because he is NOT a member of the CFR

    watch this

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=_Qy97pFDLig

    why is he giving speeches at the CFR if he's not a Member?
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  • and this

    http://www.cfr.org/bios/11603/barack_obama.html

    if you need more sources i can find 'em

    he IS CFR scum
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  • and this

    http://www.cfr.org/bios/11603/barack_obama.html

    if you need more sources i can find 'em

    he IS CFR scum

    and this sounds exactly like what Bush was preaching before invading Iraq, doesn't it?

    Like Clinton, Obama says the government’s priority should be preventing terrorist groups from obtaining weapons of mass destruction.
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  • and this

    In a speech to the Chicago Council on Global Affairs in April 2007, Sen. Obama (D-IL) advocated the expansion of the military to include an additional sixty-five thousand army soldiers and twenty-seven thousand marines. He also called for an increase in the number of Arabic speakers in the military.
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  • prism wrote:
    ah skippy, you got that wrong

    http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/CFRMembers.html#O


    go right ahead and scroll through the entire list...you will not find Obama listed because he is NOT a member of the CFR

    also this site is not current

    scroll down to the bottom

    Source: Council on Foreign Relations 2006 Annual Report (for names) and various websites via Google.com (for description)
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  • I have seen Obama speak to the Illinois Education Association, does that make him a teacher.

    I also saw Ron Paul speak to CPAC last week. Does that put him on par with Bush and Dick?
  • For the record, you want nuclear weapons in the hands of terrorists?
  • For the record, you want nuclear weapons in the hands of terrorists?

    no I just dont think that scaring the public about WMDs is the way to go about policy issues
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  • I have seen Obama speak to the Illinois Education Association, does that make him a teacher.

    I also saw Ron Paul speak to CPAC last week. Does that put him on par with Bush and Dick?

    CPAC is a Conservative Organization

    did you see how they booed McCain????

    I loved it

    and for the record Bush is not a Conservative, he is a Right Wing Neo Con

    big difference
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  • CPAC is a Conservative Organization

    did you see how they booed McCain????

    I loved it

    and for the record Bush is not a Conservative, he is a Right Wing Neo Con

    big difference

    Bush is not a conservative but he is a neo con? I know he isn't a Ron Paul conservative, but to the membrs of CPAC he is.
  • Bush is not a conservative but he is a neo con? I know he isn't a Ron Paul conservative, but to the membrs of CPAC he is.

    Bush is a Right Wing Neo Con who deserted the Conservative Movement moment the day he was sworn in........

    (empty promises)
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  • just like Obama will desert you......
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  • no I just dont think that scaring the public about WMDs is the way to go about policy issues

    I agree and that is why I am supporting Obama. He is the only candidate who wants to have open discussions with our enemies and not tough talking.

    Senator Clinton has even used the fear mongering in this election. None of that from the Obama camp.
  • prismprism Posts: 2,440
    and this

    http://www.cfr.org/bios/11603/barack_obama.html

    if you need more sources i can find 'em

    he IS CFR scum


    :rolleyes:

    show me a source that with the current membership list for the CFR that isn't from the blog of one of RP supporters, if a list taken from 2006 isn't good enough for you


    oh my GAWD, Skippy! Ron Paul must be a member of the CFR too! just take a lookie http://www.cfr.org/bios/13303/ron_paul.html
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  • and this sounds exactly like what Bush was preaching before invading Iraq, doesn't it?

    Like Clinton, Obama says the government’s priority should be preventing terrorist groups from obtaining weapons of mass destruction.

    sounds like fearmongering to me

    why must he say this?

    that should be a given, it's just to scare votes outta people, right?
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  • prism wrote:
    :rolleyes:

    show me a source that with the current membership list for the CFR that isn't from the blog of one of RP supporters, if a list taken from 2006 isn't good enough for you


    oh my GAWD, Skippy! Ron Paul must be a member of the CFR too! just take a lookie http://www.cfr.org/bios/13303/ron_paul.html

    damnit

    point well taken

    i still think you suck
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  • has anyone heard this before?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znavFjNw6IQ

    it's completely off topic but I wanted to share it
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  • chipboy wrote:

    Is Obama going to stop the war?

    What's the general concensus?


    He's on the record more than a few times now for giving full and undying military support for Israel.

    Unless he expects Israel and the Palestinians (and pretty much the middle east at this point) to miraculously get along in the very, very near future, he is essentially just talking about what he would like to do if there was no conflict. Well...there is conflict.

    He either has a magic wand, he is in fact Jesus returned incognito, he's either outright lying or kidding himself and his supporters if he thinks he can give full military support and take a peace stance at the same time.

    laughable really...
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