Is Obama going to stop the war?

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  • MasterFramer
    MasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    Im still here wrote:
    all the Newspapers are owned by 6 Corporations

    credible?

    Oh Jesus Fucking Christ... a source that can be vetted you dolt!
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  • MasterFramer
    MasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    Im still here wrote:
    he said Israel is our Lynchpin in the Middle East??????

    why can't we just stay out of it??????

    why are we siding with the agressors?

    Now you are showing your age... which explains a lot...
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  • prism
    prism Posts: 2,440
    MasterFramer wrote:
    *gasp!!! He's going to nuke Iran the second he get to office... he fooled us all!!!

    :rolleyes:

    now if we just knew where to find a tin-foil hat to protect us from this impending nuclear anniliation.....

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  • Im still here
    Im still here Posts: 826
    Im still here wrote:
    Well, keep in mind what the remark actually, if you had the whole thing, said. And what I said is nobody has suffered more than the Palestinian people from the failure of the Palestinian leadership to recognize Israel, to renounce violence, and to get serious about negotiating peace and security for the region. Israel is the linchpin of much of our efforts in the Middle East.
    Source: 2007 South Carolina Democratic primary debate, on MSNBC Apr 26, 2007

    http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Barack_Obama_Foreign_Policy.htm

    if he sees both sides then why does he not say anything about Israel's part in the situation?

    why doesn't he say he wants Israel to renounce violence too?

    just the Palestinians

    ....and he actually said this, this is a direct quote
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  • Im still here
    Im still here Posts: 826
    MasterFramer wrote:
    Oh Jesus Fucking Christ... a source that can be vetted you dolt!

    you can't argue with the Truth can you?

    the fact remains you are being lied to by MSM in the interest of 6 Corporations and a Fascist Government
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  • Im still here
    Im still here Posts: 826
    MasterFramer wrote:
    Now you are showing your age... which explains a lot...

    I'm willing to bet I'm older and alot smarter than you are

    my IQ = 132

    argue with that you moron
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  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    Im still here wrote:
    I'm willing to bet I'm older and alot smarter than you are

    my IQ = 132

    argue with that you moron

    i'll argue it. The last test i took says i've got 10 to 15 points on you. Who cares. IQ means dick. Argue THAT.
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  • Im still here
    Im still here Posts: 826
    cornnifer wrote:
    i'll argue it. The last test i took says i've got 10 to 15 points on you. Who cares. IQ means dick. Argue THAT.

    I would be willing to bet your are a Woman. But out of respect I will ask, are you a Woman?
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  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    Im still here wrote:
    I would be willing to bet your are a Woman. But out of respect I will ask, are you a Woman?

    Sorry, you lose again. i suggest cashing in what chips you have left and going home.
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  • Im still here
    Im still here Posts: 826
    cornnifer wrote:
    Sorry, you lose again. i suggest cashing in what chips you have left and going home.

    hahahahahaha, out of all the people here you seem to make the most sense constantly

    maybe i'll go read some of your posts
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Ah yes. The Ron Paul supporters and their IQ's. There's a card that has been beat to death on this board.

    Reviewing your posts and your amazing use of grammar make me think you are full of shit.
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  • Im still here
    Im still here Posts: 826
    ledvedderman wrote:
    Ah yes. The Ron Paul supporters and their IQ's. There's a card that has been beat to death on this board.

    Reviewing your posts and your amazing use of grammar make me think you are full of shit.

    hahahahaha
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Im still here wrote:
    hahahahaha

    Bragging about IQ is like bragging about your dick. No one really gives a fuck.. If you have to boast about it---chances are you are lying.

    I have known some brilliant people that have low IQ's and I know some people with high IQ's who have the worst social skills and appear near brain dead.
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  • Im still here
    Im still here Posts: 826
    ledvedderman wrote:
    Bragging about IQ is like bragging about your dick. No one really gives a fuck.. If you have to boast about it---chances are you are lying.

    I have known some brilliant people that have low IQ's and I know some people with high IQ's who have the worst social skills and appear near brain dead.

    I'm sure someone with a low IQ would see it that way..... (probably a small dick too)
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  • MasterFramer
    MasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    ledvedderman wrote:
    Bragging about IQ is like bragging about your dick. No one really gives a fuck.. If you have to boast about it---chances are you are lying.

    I have known some brilliant people that have low IQ's and I know some people with high IQ's who have the worst social skills and appear near brain dead.

    A kid I went to prep school with got 1600 on SATs had a 4.2 GPA... went to one of the top schools in the country, not a big one like Harvard or Princeton, one of those tiny 600 person colleges that crank out think tankers...total genius but a total goon. Last I heard he was unemployed...
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    MasterFramer wrote:
    ANY one of the presidential candidates would have a similar stance on this issue, if not more aggressive looking at their records. If anyone in the running (and has a chance to be elected nationally) has a chance at fixing things over there it is Obama... it sure as hell isn't Mr. 100 years...

    Actually no that's not correct. . Not every candidate wants to support Israel militarily. Off the top of my head, two candidates in particular outright denounce it.

    As well...didn't Obama vote for the Patriot act? that's a bit screwy as well.
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  • Mutiny! he cried
    Mutiny! he cried Posts: 162
    ledvedderman wrote:
    How many Democrats did you see running anti-war in 2004? Not many. The country was still on 9/11 hangover and the President kept putting out phony terror threats to keep it all fresh in the publics mind.

    Obama was one of the few.

    Did you watch that video yet?


    one of the few you say???????

    sorry, ledvedderman, but it seems now the obama supporters have you pegged as a fool
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