Is Obama going to stop the war?

ledvedderman

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and your Candidate is part of the problem

you wait and see what happens if he wins

you'll see, and you'll be sorry

We will have to wait and see. I'm sure you'll be the first one here saying how wrong you were when Obama pulls the troops out of Iraq. You seem like the type to admit when you are wrong.

ledvedderman

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agreed, i gave up on Ron Paul after Super Tuesday

I still think he is the best Candidate

and I still believe in most of his philosophies

but they will not allow him to win

Ron Pauls stances are not in line with mainstream Republican voters. That is why he won't win. No one is keeping him from winning. Like your signature states, "Change don't come at once, it's a wave building before it breaks". I think the Ron Paul movement will spark something on the GOP side that we won't see results to for years to come.

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We can agree to disagree on the aspect of the Taliban offering Osama. I've seen plenty of arguments for both sides.

We are on the same page w/ the warmongering profiteers connected to the Bush administration. It's sickening what they have got away with.

Our difference is you think that would continue w/ Obama. I do not. Lets just leave it at that as a difference of opinions.

but it will continue, go and find who the main contributors are to his campaign

it might surprise you

if he gets in office he is gonna owe all the same people that Bush owed for placing him in office

no one rides for free

pay the piper

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ledvedderman wrote:

Ron Pauls stances are not in line with mainstream Republican voters. That is why he won't win. No one is keeping him from winning. Like your signature states, "Change don't come at once, it's a wave building before it breaks". I think the Ron Paul movement will spark something on the GOP side that we won't see results to for years to come.

maybe.......

my opinion is that they will run him out of his House Seat now

he is a threat to the status quo

ledvedderman

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but it will continue, go and find who the main contributors are to his campaign

it might surprise you

if he gets in office he is gonna owe all the same people that Bush owed for placing him in office

no one rides for free

pay the piper

If I didn't have personal experience w/ the guy, I would probably have the same question. I do know though that he is as honest on the political side of things as he is personally. Out of every politician I have worked with, he is hands down the most honest---and I've worked with some great legislators.

We'll just have to wait and see who is correct on this. If he doesn't win the nomination we'll have to wait a while I believe.

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ledvedderman wrote:

We will have to wait and see. I'm sure you'll be the first one here saying how wrong you were when Obama pulls the troops out of Iraq. You seem like the type to admit when you are wrong.

if he pulls out the troops I'll be so happy I'll shit on myself, and yes I will admit I was wrong

but i don't think it will play out that way

I want all the troops home from both Wars, that's what I want, not just Iraq

ledvedderman

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maybe.......

my opinion is that they will run him out of his House Seat now

he is a threat to the status quo

I think he's got too big of a target on him now. They can't just go after him now. It's a lot like w/ Obama. Ron Paul is a movement and that's something that is hard to touch.

That's all for me for today. It's been a pleasure once we got it civilized.

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ledvedderman wrote:

I think he's got too big of a target on him now. They can't just go after him now. It's a lot like w/ Obama. Ron Paul is a movement and that's something that is hard to touch.

That's all for me for today. It's been a pleasure once we got it civilized.

I still disagree with you on many things, but yes we can agree to disagree

isn't that what this section is for?

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ledvedderman wrote:

I think he's got too big of a target on him now. They can't just go after him now. It's a lot like w/ Obama. Ron Paul is a movement and that's something that is hard to touch.

That's all for me for today. It's been a pleasure once we got it civilized.

they are already beginning to run Kucinich out of his office which he has held for years and that's your party

what makes you think Ron Paul will be any different?

the Republicans are just as cut throat as the Democrats, if not more

ledvedderman

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they are already beginning to run Kucinich out of his office which he has held for years and that's your party

what makes you think Ron Paul will be any different?

the Republicans are just as cut throat as the Democrats, if not more

Last post of the day...

To make it simple, Paul has brought a lot of new voters to the Republican Party, Dennis has not. Dennis has caught the extreme left of the Dems but did not bring in new Dems.

prism

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plus Obama is a Member of the CFR, same buddies as Bush

do some research

ah skippy, you got that wrong

http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/CFRMembers.html#O


go right ahead and scroll through the entire list...you will not find Obama listed because he is NOT a member of the CFR

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prism wrote:

ah skippy, you got that wrong

http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/CFRMembers.html#O


go right ahead and scroll through the entire list...you will not find Obama listed because he is NOT a member of the CFR

watch this

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_Qy97pFDLig

why is he giving speeches at the CFR if he's not a Member?

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and this

http://www.cfr.org/bios/11603/barack_obama.html

if you need more sources i can find 'em

he IS CFR scum

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and this

http://www.cfr.org/bios/11603/barack_obama.html

if you need more sources i can find 'em

he IS CFR scum

and this sounds exactly like what Bush was preaching before invading Iraq, doesn't it?

Like Clinton, Obama says the government’s priority should be preventing terrorist groups from obtaining weapons of mass destruction.

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and this

In a speech to the Chicago Council on Global Affairs in April 2007, Sen. Obama (D-IL) advocated the expansion of the military to include an additional sixty-five thousand army soldiers and twenty-seven thousand marines. He also called for an increase in the number of Arabic speakers in the military.

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prism wrote:

ah skippy, you got that wrong

http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/CFRMembers.html#O


go right ahead and scroll through the entire list...you will not find Obama listed because he is NOT a member of the CFR

also this site is not current

scroll down to the bottom

Source: Council on Foreign Relations 2006 Annual Report (for names) and various websites via Google.com (for description)

ledvedderman

I have seen Obama speak to the Illinois Education Association, does that make him a teacher.

I also saw Ron Paul speak to CPAC last week. Does that put him on par with Bush and Dick?

ledvedderman

For the record, you want nuclear weapons in the hands of terrorists?

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ledvedderman wrote:

For the record, you want nuclear weapons in the hands of terrorists?

no I just dont think that scaring the public about WMDs is the way to go about policy issues

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ledvedderman wrote:

I have seen Obama speak to the Illinois Education Association, does that make him a teacher.

I also saw Ron Paul speak to CPAC last week. Does that put him on par with Bush and Dick?

CPAC is a Conservative Organization

did you see how they booed McCain????

I loved it

and for the record Bush is not a Conservative, he is a Right Wing Neo Con

big difference