did you ever watch the scene from sex and the city where that one redheaded chick... the one with short hair. gets mad at her housecleaning lady for telling her God bless you and throwing the sign of the cross at her?
dude. thats different. the cleaning lady replaced her vibrator with a cross. you cant put batteries in a cross!
dude. thats different. the cleaning lady replaced her vibrator with a cross. you cant put batteries in a cross!
no, no, i clearly remember. not only did she change her vibrator with a cross but she prior to that she would always throw the sign of the cross at her. even prior to that incident she'd always feel bothered by her throwing the sign of the cross and doing her religious rituals.
This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
im just still bitter about the fact that he never backs his shit up. he drops these things but wont prove any of them. said he was a lawyer but knew less about the constitution than a first year and 2 bored people surfing the internet. i smell bullshit, and i call it. if he stepped up to the plate, id not have to call him on it. but i find it mighty suspicious that no matter what the debate or topic is, he claims to have had some amazing personal insight into this based on a lifetime of training, then disappears without supporting any of his wild allegations. it's annoying. this was the first time i've ever gotten a straight response from him.
But why does it matter so much to you? And if even if it does, I mean come on ss, bitter? :rolleyes:
Perhaps, as he is possibly almost twice your age, he has done a lot of things in his life and maybe he doesn't want to be specific about details on a thread?
I mean if you really wanted to know specifics, then perhaps pm would be the way to go? Although I wouldn't blame him if you didn't get any answers there either. If I felt you were that angry at me, I surely wouldn't be telling you personal stuff, hence me no longer speaking to anihmus.
And maybe this all gets back to the focus thing I was talking about before?
I've seen plenty of threads where OLS has posted really interesting, factual information. I've also seen threads where he has posted things that I don't personally agree with. But I don't see him as some kind of monster. I don't understand why you have focused on attacking him personally. I mean what difference does he make to your life really?
And how does any of this have any bearing on the original post of the thread?
why do athiests have so much anger toward those of religion? religious threads here turn into athiest trying to prove those of religion are wrong. why? where does this anger come from. if you tell someone of religion that you are athiest; they feel sorry for you and maybe pray for you; which is an act of compassion to them. yet athiests can't wait to jump on someone trying to prove they're wrong. they disrespect that person and thier beliefs. are these the attributes of a "good" person?
i have no problem with religion. Its great, if thats what you need to help you live a good life, then have at it. I will debate with someone if they ask me a question about it. I do not start threads about it, nor do I call anyone names. you are making assumptions about atheist, and you know what they say about assumptions.
Stop making assumptions about me, or i'll start making them about you.
i have no problem with religion. Its great, if thats what you need to help you live a good life, then have at it. I will debate with someone if they ask me a question about it. I do not start threads about it, nor do I call anyone names. you are making assumptions about atheist, and you know what they say about assumptions.
Stop making assumptions about me, or i'll start making them about you.
well, i think he's justified in starting this thread because certain folks in here have started threads that speak mainly against the traditions and teachings of christianity and most seem to agree with those "assumptions" they make of it as well.
This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
did you ever watch the scene from sex and the city where that one redheaded chick... the one with short hair. gets mad at her housecleaning lady for telling her God bless you and throwing the sign of the cross at her?
well, i think he's justified in starting this thread because certain folks in here have started threads that speak mainly against the traditions and teachings of christianity and most seem to agree with those "assumptions" they make of it as well.
oh I get that part, but do you think he would make a thread if we we fighting about hindi? Nope, also he is upset because atheist make assumptions about christ, but its okay for him to make vast sweeping assumptions about athieist?
oh I get that part, but do you think he would make a thread if we we fighting about hindi? Nope, also he is upset because atheist make assumptions about christ, but its okay for him to make vast sweeping assumptions about athieist?
why not stop making assumptions about everyone altogether? wouldn't that make it easier to understand?
This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
Great. Except...in all your intelligence...you still haven't figured out that it doesn't bother me if they bash religion, but it does bother them if I am pro-religion.
You don't have a real great grasp of the obvious, huh?
if it doesn't bother you, why do you go into obviously atheist threads and start talking about Jesus and how bad YOU feel that were all going to hell?
If It didn't bother you, you could ignore it....
Say out of the anti-god threads, and we'll stay out of the Jesus is awsome thread...........
But why does it matter so much to you? And if even if it does, I mean come on ss, bitter? :rolleyes:
Perhaps, as he is possibly almost twice your age, he has done a lot of things in his life and maybe he doesn't want to be specific about details on a thread?
I mean if you really wanted to know specifics, then perhaps pm would be the way to go? Although I wouldn't blame him if you didn't get any answers there either. If I felt you were that angry at me, I surely wouldn't be telling you personal stuff, hence me no longer speaking to anihmus.
And maybe this all gets back to the focus thing I was talking about before?
I've seen plenty of threads where OLS has posted really interesting, factual information. I've also seen threads where he has posted things that I don't personally agree with. But I don't see him as some kind of monster. I don't understand why you have focused on attacking him personally. I mean what difference does he make to your life really?
And how does any of this have any bearing on the original post of the thread?
i dont think i ever said he was a monster. i said he was full of shit. like i said, he reminds me of that kid in junior high that always made up something to have the coolest story. it was annoying then and it's annoying now. if he wants to throw that shit out there, then he can expect to be called on it. you went to tell me about the constitution, then prove you know what you're talking about. he didnt. he got schooled by hippiemom. this is a forum about debate. if you want to jerk each other's egos off and flirt and giggle about your crushes, go to aet. he can handle himself and he always has. but if he doesn't want to be asked about these mysterious experiences, he shouldn't be citing to them as reasons for the rest of us to believe he is right.
it has to do with the thread becos once again, he claimed there were some 619 commandments that every law ever made was based upon and that encompasses all of human morality. i and several others asked what these were as we had never heard of them and there was no reply. i figured it was another of his unsubstantiated claims. for once though, he gave a real answer (they are in the koran) and so i asked where i could see the list. still have not gotten a response. people have tried searching for them... but the only google search result for 619 commandments is... yup, the posts he has made on this board. might strange dont you think?
There are so many things wrong with this post I don't know where to begin.
Where do you get that the 'act of praying' is 'disrespectful' to anyone's beliefs, much less the atheist?
if an atheist doesn't believe, what the heck would they need prayer for. What is prayer? To pray? To atheist is means nothing more than a waste of time, and quite frankly I would think insulting to them. Insulting=disrespecting to me.
if an atheist doesn't believe, what the heck would they need prayer for. What is prayer? To pray? To atheist is means nothing more than a waste of time, and quite frankly I would think insulting to them. Insulting=disrespecting to me.
You're not giving much proof to back your statement. At best, you're making the assumption that "atheists" don't understand prayer. I don't think this is so.
You're not giving much proof to back your statement. At best, you're making the assumption that "atheists" don't understand prayer. I don't think this is so.
It's not that they don't understand, it's not wanted or needed. It's like unwanted advice.
I feel sorry for athiests because I believe they are ultimately going to hell unless they change. I'm not sure why any of them would care that I was religious.
What about agnostic people? Does god make them sit on the stairs halfway between heaven and hell to think about what they've done???
You're not giving much proof to back your statement. At best, you're making the assumption that "atheists" don't understand prayer. I don't think this is so.
okay, here is a hypotetical situation for you,
Lets say I am a satianist, And I know that you are A Christian. I then tell you that I'll pray to satan for you, because you are so confused and blind, and I just want you to see the light.
Wouldn't that be disrespectful to you? You wouldn't see that as insulting, because thats basicly what you are doing to an atheist.
Ps Just to head this one off, no thats not any diffrent, and no I am not a satinist.
i think it would be cool to get a time-out from god....;)..............i probably deserve it.......:)
lol, but seriously. I don't believe in God, but I don't not believe in him. I am totally accepting of him if he is the truth, but I have no evidence besides people telling me who want to believe in him.. If there really is a god, I'm sure he'd understand why people might be confused. If not, then he's an asshole. I have a hard time believe god would be an asshole.
lol, but seriously. I don't believe in God, but I don't not believe in him. I am totally accepting of him if he is the truth, but I have no evidence besides people telling me who want to believe in him.. If there really is a god, I'm sure he'd understand why people might be confused. If not, then he's an asshole. I have a hard time believe god would be an asshole.
i agree 100%.........i have no problem with god or religion.........from a historical perspective its fascinating......and the main thing i got from my catholic upbringing was that god loves me.........i don't have a problem with that...:)
Lets say I am a satianist, And I know that you are A Christian. I then tell you that I'll pray to satan for you, because you are so confused and blind, and I just want you to see the light.
Wouldn't that be disrespectful to you? You wouldn't see that as insulting, because thats basicly what you are doing to an atheist.
Ps Just to head this one off, no thats not any diffrent, and no I am not a satinist.
That's an interesting evolution to your original post.
I guess all I can tell you is that I believe Humans are all pretty much the same, regardless of what traditions are practiced and are come to be known as truth in the vocabulary. We all have the same basic needs, regardless of stories.
if an atheist doesn't believe, what the heck would they need prayer for. What is prayer? To pray? To atheist is means nothing more than a waste of time, and quite frankly I would think insulting to them. Insulting=disrespecting to me.
Atheists might meditate, which is effectively the same thing.
I'd like to make a distinction between atheist and anti-theist. For example, I am a borderline anti-theist.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
That's an interesting evolution to your original post.
I guess all I can tell you is that I believe Humans are all pretty much the same, regardless of what traditions are practiced and are come to be known as truth in the vocabulary. We all have the same basic needs, regardless of stories.
how so? I am attempting to describe to you, how I feel when someone tells me that they will pray for me. I have no problem that you believe in god, I have a problem in the fact that because i don't I am to be pitied and looked down on.
That is what bothers me, not that fact that jesus is your savior.
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dude. thats different. the cleaning lady replaced her vibrator with a cross. you cant put batteries in a cross!
But why does it matter so much to you? And if even if it does, I mean come on ss, bitter? :rolleyes:
Perhaps, as he is possibly almost twice your age, he has done a lot of things in his life and maybe he doesn't want to be specific about details on a thread?
I mean if you really wanted to know specifics, then perhaps pm would be the way to go? Although I wouldn't blame him if you didn't get any answers there either. If I felt you were that angry at me, I surely wouldn't be telling you personal stuff, hence me no longer speaking to anihmus.
And maybe this all gets back to the focus thing I was talking about before?
I've seen plenty of threads where OLS has posted really interesting, factual information. I've also seen threads where he has posted things that I don't personally agree with. But I don't see him as some kind of monster. I don't understand why you have focused on attacking him personally. I mean what difference does he make to your life really?
And how does any of this have any bearing on the original post of the thread?
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Stop making assumptions about me, or i'll start making them about you.
Well I've been known to be quite the blasphemer! So just add it to the list!
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Never really bothered with Sex In The City.
I'd rather be doing than watching.
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I'll be back later, to check on your work!
Have a good day, or evening.
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pfft! Guess you haven't been around much then.
Nothing forward about it. Just a statement of fact. Interpret it anyway you like.:)
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nice! what degree you going for? i still know quite a few people there.
If It didn't bother you, you could ignore it....
Say out of the anti-god threads, and we'll stay out of the Jesus is awsome thread...........
i dont think i ever said he was a monster. i said he was full of shit. like i said, he reminds me of that kid in junior high that always made up something to have the coolest story. it was annoying then and it's annoying now. if he wants to throw that shit out there, then he can expect to be called on it. you went to tell me about the constitution, then prove you know what you're talking about. he didnt. he got schooled by hippiemom. this is a forum about debate. if you want to jerk each other's egos off and flirt and giggle about your crushes, go to aet. he can handle himself and he always has. but if he doesn't want to be asked about these mysterious experiences, he shouldn't be citing to them as reasons for the rest of us to believe he is right.
it has to do with the thread becos once again, he claimed there were some 619 commandments that every law ever made was based upon and that encompasses all of human morality. i and several others asked what these were as we had never heard of them and there was no reply. i figured it was another of his unsubstantiated claims. for once though, he gave a real answer (they are in the koran) and so i asked where i could see the list. still have not gotten a response. people have tried searching for them... but the only google search result for 619 commandments is... yup, the posts he has made on this board. might strange dont you think?
if an atheist doesn't believe, what the heck would they need prayer for. What is prayer? To pray? To atheist is means nothing more than a waste of time, and quite frankly I would think insulting to them. Insulting=disrespecting to me.
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It's not that they don't understand, it's not wanted or needed. It's like unwanted advice.
i think it would be cool to get a time-out from god....;)..............i probably deserve it.......:)
Lets say I am a satianist, And I know that you are A Christian. I then tell you that I'll pray to satan for you, because you are so confused and blind, and I just want you to see the light.
Wouldn't that be disrespectful to you? You wouldn't see that as insulting, because thats basicly what you are doing to an atheist.
Ps Just to head this one off, no thats not any diffrent, and no I am not a satinist.
i agree 100%.........i have no problem with god or religion.........from a historical perspective its fascinating......and the main thing i got from my catholic upbringing was that god loves me.........i don't have a problem with that...:)
That's an interesting evolution to your original post.
I guess all I can tell you is that I believe Humans are all pretty much the same, regardless of what traditions are practiced and are come to be known as truth in the vocabulary. We all have the same basic needs, regardless of stories.
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Atheists might meditate, which is effectively the same thing.
I'd like to make a distinction between atheist and anti-theist. For example, I am a borderline anti-theist.
That is what bothers me, not that fact that jesus is your savior.