Kamala Harris VEEP Pick

HughFreakingDillon

benjs said:

njhaley1 said:

benjs said:

njhaley1 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

lastexit78 said:

Bentleyspop said:

Walz is killing it in this speech.

"These guys are creepy and just weird as hell"

Most energized I’ve been about this party since prime Obama. I thought they were cooked a few weeks ago, can’t believe they spun that mess into this, total miracle, now just gotta keep the momentum going.

it's been fun to watch. i hate how it went down with biden being pressured out, but i believe deep down he is seeing this and knows he made the right choice.

You cannot convince me that this wasn't all planned, that Biden's week of prep wasn't actually prep to make him seem bewildered enough to push people to call for him to stand down, meanwhile the Kamala machine was getting tuned up behind the curtain and ready to roar out of the gates.

Trump and his merch army spends all sorts of time, money, and effort targeting FJB and Biden pulls the rug out under him after he's secured the ticket, named his running mate, and can't back out unless he's physically incapable of running.

I don't watch wrestling, but this seems like a classic wrestling ploy - straight out of the Vince McMahon playbook. By gawd that's Kamala's music! 

You guys are hilarious. When he does well, it’s performance enhancing drugs. When he does badly, he’s inept and senile. When he does badly and does something about it, the 81 year old was actually just playing 81 for theatre to fool the crowd. All avenues, no matter how patently absurd, lead to criticism of Democrats - how you guys think Democrats would ever take you seriously with such unsophisticated, inauthentic, and predictable behaviour like that is beyond me. 

What do you mean "you guys?" If it's not clear, I'm liberal, love the fresh ticket, and spell behavior without a "u". 

My apologies for grouping you in with Republicans - I hope you can understand the confusion, as the three scenarios I laid out are right-wing talking points for the situation, and you referenced one of them. 

No apologies for my Canadian spelling choices though  

it ain't a choice ben. it's just correct. it's all aboot correctness!

Spiritual_Chaos

Tim Waltz

Gern Blansten said:

pjl44 said:

Interesting 

https://open.substack.com/pub/thebulwark/p/trump-world-fueled-anti-shapiro-whisper-campaign

yeah they have been suggesting that tRump's camp was directing the choice of VP. I find that hard to believe.

With sources saying consultans and ppl around Kamala was pushing Shapiro, but she went with Walz due to her vibing with him. I find that very far fetched. 

Not saying they could t have tried. 

Gern Blansten

Josh Shapiro

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Gern Blansten said:

pjl44 said:

Interesting 

https://open.substack.com/pub/thebulwark/p/trump-world-fueled-anti-shapiro-whisper-campaign

yeah they have been suggesting that tRump's camp was directing the choice of VP. I find that hard to believe.

With sources saying consultans and ppl around Kamala was pushing Shapiro, but she went with Walz due to her vibing with him. I find that very far fetched. 

Not saying they could t have tried. 

I heard that she was more impressed with Walz having no desire to run for POTUS in the future. But it's all grapevine stuff until she confirms anything.

Johnny Abruzzo

Mark Kelly

After the debate the Trump team should've at least had a plan for if Biden chose to drop out. I was told this was a disciplined and competent campaign operation. All I see is utterly fact-free ads from a "nurse" about the "border czar" and "illegals flooding ER's" - same ridiculously lying ad playing over and over. Nobody believes you, except for the zombies that already buy this stuff.

curmudgeoness

Josh Shapiro

Gern Blansten said:

The difference in tone between a Harris rally and tRump rally is amazing. tRump is just moping around about being held accountable, crying about fake election fraud, doom and gloom as to how bad everything will be if he loses even though he lost four years ago, etc.

Those differences will magnify over the next 90 days as tRump gets more desperate and the polls start to slide against him. Internally he sees the writing on the wall.

No policy, nothing about the needs of the voters, just an airing of grievances. Every day is Festivus for him.

Gern Blansten

Josh Shapiro

To be determined is what effect the tRump's basically taking over the RNC will have. Scaramucci says that the RNC closed a bunch of field offices that would normally be registering people to vote, etc.

teskeinc

Kamala trying to play both sides. Husband is a Jew, having Shapiro as a running mate would anger the anti-Semitic part of the party which she desperately needs especially in Michigan. Walz being from Minnesota, and fairly well liked there, seems to lock up that state. It does leave Pennsylvania for Trump to take now.

Right now it’s trying to hide her far left history and trying to paint her as a moderate. Walz looks like a reasonable Midwest older white guy despite his record in Minnesota. Look for the media to continue to push a moderate ticket and hide both of their radical left records, while pandering to the individual minority groups they need to win.

HughFreakingDillon

R's can't have it both ways. She was once painted as a ruthless AG that just locked everyone up and threw away the key. Now she's a "far left". 

Also, the "anti-semitic part of the party" is laughable. 

Minnesota was never in jeopardy. 

Gern Blansten

Josh Shapiro

teskeinc said:

Kamala trying to play both sides. Husband is a Jew, having Shapiro as a running mate would anger the anti-Semitic part of the party which she desperately needs especially in Michigan. Walz being from Minnesota, and fairly well liked there, seems to lock up that state. It does leave Pennsylvania for Trump to take now.

Right now it’s trying to hide her far left history and trying to paint her as a moderate. Walz looks like a reasonable Midwest older white guy despite his record in Minnesota. Look for the media to continue to push a moderate ticket and hide both of their radical left records, while pandering to the individual minority groups they need to win.

radical left vs radical right

left is generally for the people and right is generally for only white christians

tbergs

teskeinc said:

Kamala trying to play both sides. Husband is a Jew, having Shapiro as a running mate would anger the anti-Semitic part of the party which she desperately needs especially in Michigan. Walz being from Minnesota, and fairly well liked there, seems to lock up that state. It does leave Pennsylvania for Trump to take now.

Right now it’s trying to hide her far left history and trying to paint her as a moderate. Walz looks like a reasonable Midwest older white guy despite his record in Minnesota. Look for the media to continue to push a moderate ticket and hide both of their radical left records, while pandering to the individual minority groups they need to win.

Hey, nice hot take. I keep seeing the right wing media act like they're the bastions of good by making sure liberals aren't getting screwed over by the democratic political machine. First a coup against Biden and now the anti-semitic claims. Nice try. Good thing Trump has the Yo-Semite vote locked up. Oh, by the way, if your wondering which party has more vocal and openly racist supporters/candidates, maybe send a mirror to them instead of donations. Maybe someone should look in to that...

teskeinc

HughFreakingDillon said:

R's can't have it both ways. She was once painted as a ruthless AG that just locked everyone up and threw away the key. Now she's a "far left". 

Also, the "anti-semitic part of the party" is laughable. 

Minnesota was never in jeopardy. 

Then Walz was probably the worst choice on the list for VP. 

Johnny Abruzzo

Mark Kelly

Walz's record in Minnesota is fucking amazing. I hope Shapiro can come anywhere near that record. It certainly puts Gavin Newsome and (the nation's worst governor) Kathy Hochul to shame.

tbergs

teskeinc said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

R's can't have it both ways. She was once painted as a ruthless AG that just locked everyone up and threw away the key. Now she's a "far left". 

Also, the "anti-semitic part of the party" is laughable. 

Minnesota was never in jeopardy. 

Then Walz was probably the worst choice on the list for VP. 

I think the reality is that the right is disappointed it isn't Shapiro because he would be an easier target for them. As a Minnesotan, I was hoping it wouldn't be Walz to keep him here, but he's a decent person who's dedicated his life to serving (military, teacher, politics) and isn't an elite. Shapiro has an elite edge to him that I don't think people would identify with as much here in the Midwest. Walz has the backing of unions and has shown he's for giving people of all backgrounds access to services to help promote equity across the board. What type of person is against giving women a right to choose, providing food for all children in need, lower med prices, infrastructure improvements and background checks for gun owners? Apparently you are.

The Juggler

Josh Shapiro

HughFreakingDillon said:

R's can't have it both ways. She was once painted as a ruthless AG that just locked everyone up and threw away the key. Now she's a "far left". 

Also, the "anti-semitic part of the party" is laughable. 

Minnesota was never in jeopardy. 

It's almost as if their argument is a tad....disingenuous 

tbergs

The Juggler said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

R's can't have it both ways. She was once painted as a ruthless AG that just locked everyone up and threw away the key. Now she's a "far left". 

Also, the "anti-semitic part of the party" is laughable. 

Minnesota was never in jeopardy. 

It's almost as if their argument is a tad....disingenuous 

You think? It's just....weird.

nicknyr15

Johnny Abruzzo said:

Walz's record in Minnesota is fucking amazing. I hope Shapiro can come anywhere near that record. It certainly puts Gavin Newsome and (the nation's worst governor) Kathy Hochul to shame.

Amen 

benjs

Gretchen Whitmer

teskeinc said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

R's can't have it both ways. She was once painted as a ruthless AG that just locked everyone up and threw away the key. Now she's a "far left". 

Also, the "anti-semitic part of the party" is laughable. 

Minnesota was never in jeopardy. 

Then Walz was probably the worst choice on the list for VP. 

If only more Democrats listened to Republican operatives and trolls for advice, maybe they'd have picked a smarter choice, like JD Vance.  

Kat

Right now.

LIVE: Kamala Harris & Tim Walz hold JOINT RALLY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCYkA3vIu84

Spiritual_Chaos

Tim Waltz

Kat said:

Right now.

LIVE: Kamala Harris & Tim Walz hold JOINT RALLY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCYkA3vIu84

But the semi finals table tennis match between Sweden and Japan is now. 

Spiritual_Chaos

Tim Waltz

teskeinc said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

R's can't have it both ways. She was once painted as a ruthless AG that just locked everyone up and threw away the key. Now she's a "far left". 

Also, the "anti-semitic part of the party" is laughable. 

Minnesota was never in jeopardy. 

Then Walz was probably the worst choice on the list for VP. 

Seems like from the response he was a pretty good choice.