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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,027
    teskeinc said:

    Problem is over the last several years, they use it so often to things that aren’t really racist, it loses the real meaning and people just disregard it as another virtue signaler. Like the boy who cried wolf.

    Exactly. Like calling people Communists. Or Pedophiles. 

  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,027
    teskeinc said:
     It’s not racist, even if he did it intentionally. 


    If you do it intentionally, you're trying to be a dick for some reason and its worth drilling down into why. 

  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,027
    Its almost like there are dopes on both sides who just level attacks at the other without any real critical thinking. Just posting pejoratives, making broad blanket accusations, just trying to go toe to toe with nastiness without considering if you truly are contributing to the dialog or the noise.  
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,479
    edited August 22
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,027
    edited August 22
    bottom line. sometimes things are racist and people are being racist. Sometimes people are dopes or misspeak. You can say sorry and try to do better. Yes, its a disservice to rooting out real racism to just level accusations at people without the full story or context or consideration. But also, there are real fucking assholes out there who want to stir shit up, and its worth considering, Why are people on edge about these sort of people.  
  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,679
    Tim Simmons said:
    teskeinc said:
     It’s not racist, even if he did it intentionally. 


    If you do it intentionally, you're trying to be a dick for some reason and its worth drilling down into why. 

    It’s kind of like here if you say anything demeaning about Kamala it’s labeled misogynist or sexist. People are soft now. If you grew up in the 70s or 80s you were probably called every name in the book. Friends called each other every name in the book and we just laughed and gave it right back. We ushered in the era of everyone gets a trophy, safe spaces and snowflakes and if you say anything about anyone you’re automatically a racist.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,421
    teskeinc said:


    Kamala the Ugandan Headhunter. He was from Mississippi tho. Was a great character in the WWF.


    lol yeah ok wrestling the total fake sport 😂😂
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,479
    teskeinc said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    teskeinc said:
     It’s not racist, even if he did it intentionally. 


    If you do it intentionally, you're trying to be a dick for some reason and its worth drilling down into why. 

    It’s kind of like here if you say anything demeaning about Kamala it’s labeled misogynist or sexist. People are soft now. If you grew up in the 70s or 80s you were probably called every name in the book. Friends called each other every name in the book and we just laughed and gave it right back. We ushered in the era of everyone gets a trophy, safe spaces and snowflakes and if you say anything about anyone you’re automatically a racist.

    key aspect here is among friends. talked shit with others , fights occured.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,421
    teskeinc said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    teskeinc said:
     It’s not racist, even if he did it intentionally. 


    If you do it intentionally, you're trying to be a dick for some reason and its worth drilling down into why. 

    It’s kind of like here if you say anything demeaning about Kamala it’s labeled misogynist or sexist. People are soft now. If you grew up in the 70s or 80s you were probably called every name in the book. Friends called each other every name in the book and we just laughed and gave it right back. We ushered in the era of everyone gets a trophy, safe spaces and snowflakes and if you say anything about anyone you’re automatically a racist.
    So that makes it ok to be an asshole 😂😂 
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,027
    edited August 22
    teskeinc said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    teskeinc said:
     It’s not racist, even if he did it intentionally. 


    If you do it intentionally, you're trying to be a dick for some reason and its worth drilling down into why. 

    It’s kind of like here if you say anything demeaning about Kamala it’s labeled misogynist or sexist. People are soft now. If you grew up in the 70s or 80s you were probably called every name in the book. Friends called each other every name in the book and we just laughed and gave it right back. We ushered in the era of everyone gets a trophy, safe spaces and snowflakes and if you say anything about anyone you’re automatically a racist.
    There is nothing wrong with being kind or empathetic. What does any of that old behavior foster? A thicker skin so you can endure more of it? 



  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,679
    josevolution said:
    teskeinc said:


    Kamala the Ugandan Headhunter. He was from Mississippi tho. Was a great character in the WWF.


    lol yeah ok wrestling the total fake sport 😂😂
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,878
    teskeinc said:
    josevolution said:
    teskeinc said:


    Kamala the Ugandan Headhunter. He was from Mississippi tho. Was a great character in the WWF.


    lol yeah ok wrestling the total fake sport 😂😂
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,878
    edited August 23
    EdsonNascimento said:
    The Juggler said:
    pjl44 said:
    EdsonNascimento said:
    Gern Blansten said:


    53/47 Harris...I can live with that
    Sorry to tell you but National polls always lean Dem for whatever reason (probably b/c they're the ones that care more to participate). I think (didn't re-look it up), but Biden was ahead 8 points in polls and won by 4.  In addition. Dems need to win by more than 3 and probably be ahead by like 7 in polls to win b/c they have "wasted" votes in big cities (unless there's some unusual distribution). Winning NYC, Chitown and LA by 5 million each doesn't change the outcomes of those states, but makes the Nat'l overall skew.

    So, you really shouldn't be happy with 2.3. Trump wins easily if that's the actual polling at this time.
    That's not a poll. The 53% is a probability.
    Lol...right.

    Next he will tell you Silver was wrong in 2016...even though he was much closer than most. 
    Hey, I love Nate Silver.  If I was trusting any of these projections, he's the one I'd trust.  538 no longer belongs to him. HE sold but, but brilliantly kept access to the models. He's critiqued the 538 models that have strayed b/c they don't have his updates.  

    So, Nate Silver does have his own projection that's not longer called 538.  That's right - a corporation paid him 10s of millions of dollars for a projection that was only good the moment he gave it to them. From there, you need the right person to adjust it.  

    And I'm sure he'll say it's close to 50/50 also.  But, in the end, none of that is relevant.  I'm just trying to guid you to the most important number in the quote - the 2.3 point polling advantage. That's most likely not enough for Harris to win as the real election will skew against that number and Dems always need more votes to win b/c of the cities producing votes that don't effect the electoral college.

    So, keep arguing. I'm not saying who's gonna win.  I'm just trying to point out that those probabilities (especially a basically 50/50 for an incumbent should not let you sleep well at night). But, you keep doing you.
    Umm, yes. I am well aware Silver left...that is precisely why I said I hoped to see 538's model soon. ^

    Biden was 3-5 points down a month ago. Harris is now up 3ish. Quite an enormous swing in 4 weeks. But where do you see anyone saying that is good enough? It's been a month and her campaign is clearly the one with the momentum.

    Two things.
    -Trump is not the same Trump of 4 and 8 years ago. The act is tired and his campaign theme of running against the old dementia candidate has done a complete 180 on him and he is struggling to waddle his way through it.

    -This is a new world post Dobbs and it's been the Dems, not Trump's maga candidates, who have been underestimated in the polls since then. I don't think Biden would have experienced some of ...whatever that is. I do think Harris will though. Also Trump's primary performance was relatively weak considering he's essentially an incumbent.

    So...thanks for your...input. Good effort.


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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,901
    teskeinc said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    teskeinc said:
     It’s not racist, even if he did it intentionally. 


    If you do it intentionally, you're trying to be a dick for some reason and its worth drilling down into why. 

    It’s kind of like here if you say anything demeaning about Kamala it’s labeled misogynist or sexist. People are soft now. If you grew up in the 70s or 80s you were probably called every name in the book. Friends called each other every name in the book and we just laughed and gave it right back. We ushered in the era of everyone gets a trophy, safe spaces and snowflakes and if you say anything about anyone you’re automatically a racist.
    you're right. people getting all triggered about pronouns and tampons in bathrooms and other things that have no affect on them sure are pathetic snowflakes. 
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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,679
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    teskeinc said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    teskeinc said:
     It’s not racist, even if he did it intentionally. 


    If you do it intentionally, you're trying to be a dick for some reason and its worth drilling down into why. 

    It’s kind of like here if you say anything demeaning about Kamala it’s labeled misogynist or sexist. People are soft now. If you grew up in the 70s or 80s you were probably called every name in the book. Friends called each other every name in the book and we just laughed and gave it right back. We ushered in the era of everyone gets a trophy, safe spaces and snowflakes and if you say anything about anyone you’re automatically a racist.
    you're right. people getting all triggered about pronouns and tampons in bathrooms and other things that have no affect on them sure are pathetic snowflakes. 
    I don’t think offended is the word to describe it. It’s more or less weird or unnecessary. My kid is in 5th grade, I never asked him or he never said anything if there is a dispenser. It’s just weird there needs to be legislative time spent on it. 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,103
    Panatta was great... Can't believe he's 86
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,027
    teskeinc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    teskeinc said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    teskeinc said:
     It’s not racist, even if he did it intentionally. 


    If you do it intentionally, you're trying to be a dick for some reason and its worth drilling down into why. 

    It’s kind of like here if you say anything demeaning about Kamala it’s labeled misogynist or sexist. People are soft now. If you grew up in the 70s or 80s you were probably called every name in the book. Friends called each other every name in the book and we just laughed and gave it right back. We ushered in the era of everyone gets a trophy, safe spaces and snowflakes and if you say anything about anyone you’re automatically a racist.
    you're right. people getting all triggered about pronouns and tampons in bathrooms and other things that have no affect on them sure are pathetic snowflakes. 
    I don’t think offended is the word to describe it. It’s more or less weird or unnecessary. My kid is in 5th grade, I never asked him or he never said anything if there is a dispenser. It’s just weird there needs to be legislative time spent on it. 
    So, is the alternative to not spend any time on it and just leave people out to dry? 
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,027
    edited August 23
    Taking care of people is never weird. I’m sorry if having conversations with your kids about stuff you didn’t plan on is awkward. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,956
    Kinzinger is sending some serious zings at POOTWH. “A small man claiming to be big. Weirdly obsessed with Putin.”
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,901
    Tim Simmons said:
    Taking care of people is never weird. I’m sorry if having conversations with your kids about stuff you didn’t plan on is awkward. 
    this ^^^. 

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,901
    this episode of the simpsons about sums up the Republican party, here, represented by Homer Simpson:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2_ecET8X7A
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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,431
    Tim Simmons said:
    Taking care of people is never weird. I’m sorry if having conversations with your kids about stuff you didn’t plan on is awkward. 
    It's one of the least controversial aspects of a highly controversial movement, so by default it generates an outsized amount of pushback. If it was 90% about bathroom accommodations, it would be far less of an issue.
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  • njhaley1njhaley1 Posts: 780
    This speech is profoundly powerful. Hard not to picture the current republican party left behind in the... Rearviewmirror. 
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,431
    These campaigns are staffed by the most annoying assholes


  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,956
    njhaley1 said:
    This speech is profoundly powerful. Hard not to picture the current republican party left behind in the... Rearviewmirror. 
    A bright, shiny future around the bend or the 1950s are calling.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,103
    She did great. She'll tear trump to shreds in the debates. It's going to be glorious. 
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