** KAMALA HARRIS FOR PRESIDENT -PART DEUX **

Gern Blansten

Philly NJ said:

Tim Simmons said:

But sure. What would you like to discuss? How the poll numbers look stronger everyday? The convention this week? Her economic plan? 

Tim Simmons said:

But sure. What would you like to discuss? How the poll numbers look stronger everyday? The convention this week? Her economic plan? 

Ok, give us your reasons to vote for Harris. Include in your response how much better/worse the country is after four years of Harris/Biden.  Also include why she basically finished last in the 2016 Dem primary.  Also include how she became the Dem nominee without any input from the American public.

LOL...explain trumps medal of honor speech 

mickeyrat

gift article.....

https://wapo.st/3ABKjtI

What Kamala Harris did – and didn’t do – on immigration and the border
By Toluse Olorunnipa and Maria Sacchetti
August 17, 2024 at 8:00 ET
Two months into his presidency, Joe Biden confronted a political crisis: The number of migrants illegally crossing the southern border into the United States was soaring. So he asked Vice President Kamala Harris to lead the administration’s diplomatic efforts to reduce problems at the border.
That assignment included working with three Central American countries — El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras — to improve living conditions and lower the odds that migrants would leave those countries for reasons including poverty, gang violence and corruption.
But Republicans quickly seized on the apparent diplomatic opportunity for Harris, referring to her as the country’s “border czar” responsible for all issues related to the U.S.-Mexico line. Now, more than three years later, her role is a potential political liability as she runs for president as the Democratic nominee and polls show voters broadly disapprove of the Biden administration’s handling of the border.
Harris, in fact, has never been in charge of the border. The Department of Homeland Security manages migration. Her immigration role for the Biden administration has included boosting U.S. aid to Central America, traveling to the region and discouraging potential migrants from making the dangerous journey to the United States.
Migration from the three Central American countries during the Biden administration has fallen 35 percent, from about 683,890 to 447,270 in 2023, lower than it was in 2019 under Trump. But analysts say it is difficult to tie the reduction in numbers to Harris’s efforts, and there have been increases in migration from other countries.

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Philly NJ

Gern Blansten said:

Philly NJ said:

Tim Simmons said:

But sure. What would you like to discuss? How the poll numbers look stronger everyday? The convention this week? Her economic plan? 

Tim Simmons said:

But sure. What would you like to discuss? How the poll numbers look stronger everyday? The convention this week? Her economic plan? 

Ok, give us your reasons to vote for Harris. Include in your response how much better/worse the country is after four years of Harris/Biden.  Also include why she basically finished last in the 2016 Dem primary.  Also include how she became the Dem nominee without any input from the American public.

LOL...explain trumps medal of honor speech 

Like I said, ask about Harris, get Trump response. TDS at its best. No known cure at this point.

Gern Blansten

Philly NJ said:

Gern Blansten said:

Philly NJ said:

Tim Simmons said:

But sure. What would you like to discuss? How the poll numbers look stronger everyday? The convention this week? Her economic plan? 

Tim Simmons said:

But sure. What would you like to discuss? How the poll numbers look stronger everyday? The convention this week? Her economic plan? 

Ok, give us your reasons to vote for Harris. Include in your response how much better/worse the country is after four years of Harris/Biden.  Also include why she basically finished last in the 2016 Dem primary.  Also include how she became the Dem nominee without any input from the American public.

LOL...explain trumps medal of honor speech 

Like I said, ask about Harris, get Trump response. TDS at its best. No known cure at this point.

It's not tds. Literally anything would be better than trump. He's a fucking moron. Your question is just bait because you clearly have no idea how this economy works and you are in denial as to the economy that trump left when he lost the election. 

gimmesometruth27

Philly NJ said:

Tim Simmons said:

But sure. What would you like to discuss? How the poll numbers look stronger everyday? The convention this week? Her economic plan? 

Tim Simmons said:

But sure. What would you like to discuss? How the poll numbers look stronger everyday? The convention this week? Her economic plan? 

Ok, give us your reasons to vote for Harris. Include in your response how much better/worse the country is after four years of Harris/Biden.  Also include why she basically finished last in the 2016 Dem primary.  Also include how she became the Dem nominee without any input from the American public.

i like how the new guy comes in and starts giving everyone assignments.

why don't you tell us what trump did that deserves a 2nd term after being impeached twice, as well as being a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist? doesn't character matter to you?

i am voting harris because i will never in a billion years vote for a republican. not even for dog catcher.

gimmesometruth27

Philly NJ said:

Gern Blansten said:

Philly NJ said:

Merkin Baller said:

A new tariff on all imports combined with a concerted effort to deport  much needed laborers from an already depleted workforce will surely bring prices down and ease inflation, how could they not? What a well thought out plan. 

Not sure of your position, but a vast majority of Americans are against illegal immigration. Yes, we are in a bad spot with inflation, thanks to Harris/Biden.  Remember the great Biden/Harris Inflation Reduction Act? Once again, we were all lied to and deceived. 

LOL check the latest inflation news 

Please tell us about the latest inflation news.  Hint: if you are intellectually honest you will include in your response that prices are still 30% to 80% higher and still increasing but at a lower rate. 

what is 80% higher than it used to be? 

Philly NJ

gimmesometruth27 said:

Philly NJ said:

Tim Simmons said:

But sure. What would you like to discuss? How the poll numbers look stronger everyday? The convention this week? Her economic plan? 

Tim Simmons said:

But sure. What would you like to discuss? How the poll numbers look stronger everyday? The convention this week? Her economic plan? 

Ok, give us your reasons to vote for Harris. Include in your response how much better/worse the country is after four years of Harris/Biden.  Also include why she basically finished last in the 2016 Dem primary.  Also include how she became the Dem nominee without any input from the American public.

i like how the new guy comes in and starts giving everyone assignments.

why don't you tell us what trump did that deserves a 2nd term after being impeached twice, as well as being a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist? doesn't character matter to you?

i am voting harris because i will never in a billion years vote for a republican. not even for dog catcher.

Thanks for sharing your informed voting philosophy.  Obviously no need to engage in debate with you. Good luck.

gimmesometruth27

Philly NJ said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Philly NJ said:

Tim Simmons said:

But sure. What would you like to discuss? How the poll numbers look stronger everyday? The convention this week? Her economic plan? 

Tim Simmons said:

But sure. What would you like to discuss? How the poll numbers look stronger everyday? The convention this week? Her economic plan? 

Ok, give us your reasons to vote for Harris. Include in your response how much better/worse the country is after four years of Harris/Biden.  Also include why she basically finished last in the 2016 Dem primary.  Also include how she became the Dem nominee without any input from the American public.

i like how the new guy comes in and starts giving everyone assignments.

why don't you tell us what trump did that deserves a 2nd term after being impeached twice, as well as being a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist? doesn't character matter to you?

i am voting harris because i will never in a billion years vote for a republican. not even for dog catcher.

Thanks for sharing your informed voting philosophy.  Obviously no need to engage in debate with you. Good luck.

back atcha. 

The Juggler

Philly NJ said:

Gern Blansten said:

Philly NJ said:

Merkin Baller said:

A new tariff on all imports combined with a concerted effort to deport  much needed laborers from an already depleted workforce will surely bring prices down and ease inflation, how could they not? What a well thought out plan. 

Not sure of your position, but a vast majority of Americans are against illegal immigration. Yes, we are in a bad spot with inflation, thanks to Harris/Biden.  Remember the great Biden/Harris Inflation Reduction Act? Once again, we were all lied to and deceived. 

LOL check the latest inflation news 

Please tell us about the latest inflation news.  Hint: if you are intellectually honest you will include in your response that prices are still 30% to 80% higher and still increasing but at a lower rate. 

Tell us you know nothing about economics without telling us you know nothing about economics. I have news for you, professor: prices have been increasing literally your entire life. That is a sign of a healthy economy. Only during recessions, when the economy is shrinking, do you see inflation decreasing. Are you hopeful for a recession? The first chart below illustrates this perfectly for you.

The inflation rate is right now similar to where it was during the Trump administration. If, like the other magas in here, you want to see inflation rate decrease and you yearn for the days of 2020 and 2009....well, ask yourself what was happening in the world during those timeframes. 

The result of the global pandemic caused inflation to spike all across the world. Do you think the Italians wake up every day and blame Joe Biden for the higher cost of shit in their country? As the second chart points out, the US has handled the the inflation issue better than any other country in the world.....but imposing tariffs on all imports while deporting millions of people, like Trump has said he wants to do, will most likely cause inflation to start spiking again. This is referenced in the link below. 

https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/trump-win-economists-see-revived-inflation-more-wary-fed-2024-07-25/

The Juggler

Philly NJ said:

Merkin Baller said:

A new tariff on all imports combined with a concerted effort to deport  much needed laborers from an already depleted workforce will surely bring prices down and ease inflation, how could they not? What a well thought out plan. 

Not sure of your position, but a vast majority of Americans are against illegal immigration. Yes, we are in a bad spot with inflation, thanks to Harris/Biden.  Remember the great Biden/Harris Inflation Reduction Act? Once again, we were all lied to and deceived. 

Has the rate of inflation gone up or down over the last couple years since the Inflation Reduction Act was passed?

How has the United states faired verses the rest of the world regarding fighting inflation?

Do you think the rest of the world blames Biden/Harris for their inflation too...or do you think they acknowledge that there was some kind of global event a few years ago the kickstarted the issue all around the world?

Do you think you'd garner more respect here if your arguments were not lathered up in disingenuous bullshit?

Merkin Baller

Intellectual honesty indeed. 

Philly NJ

The Juggler said:

Philly NJ said:

Gern Blansten said:

Philly NJ said:

Merkin Baller said:

A new tariff on all imports combined with a concerted effort to deport  much needed laborers from an already depleted workforce will surely bring prices down and ease inflation, how could they not? What a well thought out plan. 

Not sure of your position, but a vast majority of Americans are against illegal immigration. Yes, we are in a bad spot with inflation, thanks to Harris/Biden.  Remember the great Biden/Harris Inflation Reduction Act? Once again, we were all lied to and deceived. 

LOL check the latest inflation news 

Please tell us about the latest inflation news.  Hint: if you are intellectually honest you will include in your response that prices are still 30% to 80% higher and still increasing but at a lower rate. 

Tell us you know nothing about economics without telling us you know nothing about economics. I have news for you, professor: prices have been increasing literally your entire life. That is a sign of a healthy economy. Only during recessions, when the economy is shrinking, do you see inflation decreasing. Are you hopeful for a recession? The first chart below illustrates this perfectly for you.

The inflation rate is right now similar to where it was during the Trump administration. If, like the other magas in here, you want to see inflation rate decrease and you yearn for the days of 2020 and 2009....well, ask yourself what was happening in the world during those timeframes. 

The result of the global pandemic caused inflation to spike all across the world. Do you think the Italians wake up every day and blame Joe Biden for the higher cost of shit in their country? As the second chart points out, the US has handled the the inflation issue better than any other country in the world.....but imposing tariffs on all imports while deporting millions of people, like Trump has said he wants to do, will most likely cause inflation to start spiking again. This is referenced in the link below. 

https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/trump-win-economists-see-revived-inflation-more-wary-fed-2024-07-25/

I certainly did not say what you inferred.  So you understand, my point is that the inflation rate has been significantly higher under Harris/Biden, mostly due to their polices.  Read some Milton Freeman quotes below regarding inflation. I don't necessarily agree that is always about monetary policy. For example, due to Harris/Biden energy policies, the cost of energy is significantly higher.  Energy costs are a part of production costs for all goods. Therefore, higher energy costs results in higher prices for goods:

Milton Friedman: It is always and everywhere, a monetary phenomenon. It's always and everywhere, a result of too much money, of a more rapid increase in the quantity of money than an output. Moreover, in the modern era, the important next step is to recognize that today, governments control the quantity of money. So that as a result, inflation in the United States is made in Washington and nowhere else.

Friedman: If you listen to people in Washington and talk, they will tell you that inflation is produced by greedy businessmen or it's produced by grasping unions or it's produced by spendthrift consumers, or maybe, it's those terrible Arab Sheikhs who are producing it. Now, of course, businessmen are greedy. Who of us isn't? Trade unions are grasping. Who of us isn't? And there's no doubt that the consumer is a spendthrift. At least every man knows that about his wife.

Friedman: But none of them produce inflation for the very simple reason that neither the businessman, nor the trade union, nor the housewife has a printing press in their basement on which they can turn out those green pieces of paper we call money.

Halifax2TheMax

Philly NJ said:

Tim Simmons said:

But sure. What would you like to discuss? How the poll numbers look stronger everyday? The convention this week? Her economic plan? 

Tim Simmons said:

But sure. What would you like to discuss? How the poll numbers look stronger everyday? The convention this week? Her economic plan? 

Ok, give us your reasons to vote for Harris. Include in your response how much better/worse the country is after four years of Harris/Biden.  Also include why she basically finished last in the 2016 Dem primary.  Also include how she became the Dem nominee without any input from the American public.

1. She’s a normal person and not a weirdo. I like her laugh and smile. She pulled herself up by her bootstraps and made something of herself.

2. country is much better off. No active US involvement in foreign conflicts. Stock market up to record highs. Covid appears to be a thing of the past. Unemployment below 5% still. Supply chain fixed, highway and bridge collapses addressed and effects mitigated. Competent cabinet officers getting things done. Tax receipts up. Strategic oil release and resupply profitable for the treasury. Most diverse administration and court appointments in history. Blue states doing well in many indicators, red states dragging us down but POTUS can’t fix stupid.

3. crowded field with a broad range of diverse candidates and $$$$$.

4. A ticket, a pair of candidates are voted upon after the primaries and the POTUS candidate selects their running mate. 80 million + Americans have already voted for her and given the choice between an old decrepit, deranged and delusional candidate and a normal person, Dems are enthusiastic about electing the first woman POTUS as they were electing the first black man POTUS, and a normal person over a complete fucking weirdo. Things about Dems is that they don’t goose step.

5. in what year do you figure you’ll be replaced?

The Juggler

Philly NJ said:

The Juggler said:

Philly NJ said:

Gern Blansten said:

Philly NJ said:

Merkin Baller said:

A new tariff on all imports combined with a concerted effort to deport  much needed laborers from an already depleted workforce will surely bring prices down and ease inflation, how could they not? What a well thought out plan. 

Not sure of your position, but a vast majority of Americans are against illegal immigration. Yes, we are in a bad spot with inflation, thanks to Harris/Biden.  Remember the great Biden/Harris Inflation Reduction Act? Once again, we were all lied to and deceived. 

LOL check the latest inflation news 

Please tell us about the latest inflation news.  Hint: if you are intellectually honest you will include in your response that prices are still 30% to 80% higher and still increasing but at a lower rate. 

Tell us you know nothing about economics without telling us you know nothing about economics. I have news for you, professor: prices have been increasing literally your entire life. That is a sign of a healthy economy. Only during recessions, when the economy is shrinking, do you see inflation decreasing. Are you hopeful for a recession? The first chart below illustrates this perfectly for you.

The inflation rate is right now similar to where it was during the Trump administration. If, like the other magas in here, you want to see inflation rate decrease and you yearn for the days of 2020 and 2009....well, ask yourself what was happening in the world during those timeframes. 

The result of the global pandemic caused inflation to spike all across the world. Do you think the Italians wake up every day and blame Joe Biden for the higher cost of shit in their country? As the second chart points out, the US has handled the the inflation issue better than any other country in the world.....but imposing tariffs on all imports while deporting millions of people, like Trump has said he wants to do, will most likely cause inflation to start spiking again. This is referenced in the link below. 

https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/trump-win-economists-see-revived-inflation-more-wary-fed-2024-07-25/

I certainly did not say what you inferred.  So you understand, my point is that the inflation rate has been significantly higher under Harris/Biden, mostly due to their polices.  

So, did the Harris/Biden polices affect the inflation rate across the entire world too? Or is it just some big coincidence that inflation spiked everywhere while the world was in the middle of a global pandemic? 

Inflation rate was over 9% a couple years ago. It is below 3% now. The Inflation Reduction Act was enacted two years ago. 

gimmesometruth27

The Juggler said:

Philly NJ said:

The Juggler said:

Philly NJ said:

Gern Blansten said:

Philly NJ said:

Merkin Baller said:

A new tariff on all imports combined with a concerted effort to deport  much needed laborers from an already depleted workforce will surely bring prices down and ease inflation, how could they not? What a well thought out plan. 

Not sure of your position, but a vast majority of Americans are against illegal immigration. Yes, we are in a bad spot with inflation, thanks to Harris/Biden.  Remember the great Biden/Harris Inflation Reduction Act? Once again, we were all lied to and deceived. 

LOL check the latest inflation news 

Please tell us about the latest inflation news.  Hint: if you are intellectually honest you will include in your response that prices are still 30% to 80% higher and still increasing but at a lower rate. 

Tell us you know nothing about economics without telling us you know nothing about economics. I have news for you, professor: prices have been increasing literally your entire life. That is a sign of a healthy economy. Only during recessions, when the economy is shrinking, do you see inflation decreasing. Are you hopeful for a recession? The first chart below illustrates this perfectly for you.

The inflation rate is right now similar to where it was during the Trump administration. If, like the other magas in here, you want to see inflation rate decrease and you yearn for the days of 2020 and 2009....well, ask yourself what was happening in the world during those timeframes. 

The result of the global pandemic caused inflation to spike all across the world. Do you think the Italians wake up every day and blame Joe Biden for the higher cost of shit in their country? As the second chart points out, the US has handled the the inflation issue better than any other country in the world.....but imposing tariffs on all imports while deporting millions of people, like Trump has said he wants to do, will most likely cause inflation to start spiking again. This is referenced in the link below. 

https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/trump-win-economists-see-revived-inflation-more-wary-fed-2024-07-25/

I certainly did not say what you inferred.  So you understand, my point is that the inflation rate has been significantly higher under Harris/Biden, mostly due to their polices.  

So, did the Harris/Biden polices affect the inflation rate across the entire world too? Or is it just some big coincidence that inflation spiked everywhere while the world was in the middle of a global pandemic? 

Inflation rate was over 9% a couple years ago. It is below 3% now. The Inflation Reduction Act was enacted two years ago. 

so by this rationale, the inflation reduction act worked.

i'm sold.

Tim Simmons

Philly NJ said:

Tim Simmons said:

But sure. What would you like to discuss? How the poll numbers look stronger everyday? The convention this week? Her economic plan? 

Tim Simmons said:

But sure. What would you like to discuss? How the poll numbers look stronger everyday? The convention this week? Her economic plan? 

Ok, give us your reasons to vote for Harris. Include in your response how much better/worse the country is after four years of Harris/Biden.  Also include why she basically finished last in the 2016 Dem primary.  Also include how she became the Dem nominee without any input from the American public.

Will you provide a bluebook?

Sure no problem. Overall, I do think American is doing very well (TBH, its always been and still is Great, well economically and as a place to live and work) and I think staying the current course is the best plan of action. 4 years ago we were in the throughs of covid, we were struggling as a nation and economy and the Biden Harris admin has pulled us out of it, so much so we are thriving economically with Joblessness at 30 year lows and a stock market higher than ever (which means 401ks and retirement plans are flourishing). Granted the admin's stimulus packages have contributed to the inflation rate, but it was bound to happen because of the covid downturns of production and increased demand for goods. The trade offs of not doing stimulus would be slower economic recovery if not for the stimulus. As of now, inflation seems to be easing. 

Statistically with Democratic presidents, the economy performs better. Their economic policies encourage faith in the markets and promote growth. Looking back at the past 30 years, the economy and employment has grown under democratic executive leadership and shrunk under republican leadership. That currently seems to be the case so I am fine staying the course. I see Harris as a continuation of Biden Admin policies. As I said a few posts up, I think the promotion of housing supply is a much needed policy. I'm iffy on the assistance aspect, but I could be won over, but also, its not that big of a deal to me because I own a home. I feel like the foreign policy of this admin has been successful and would like to see a continuation of it. 

As for her finishing "basically last" in the primary (she dropped out before before the primaries), well, there were other candidates that people preferred, but overwhelmingly people preferred Biden. Someones gotta be in last. This is not a ding on her record as prosecutor, DA or senator. People wanted someone who was second in command before to be in command and that was Biden. And to your question about her being the nominee without input from the American people, well, 1. She is VP, she is second in line to the presidency right now. People voter Biden and Her to those roles. So technically she was chosen by Democratic voters. If something were to happen to Biden she would be come president. Would you say the public needs input at that point as well? and 2. I think the polling and the support certainly indicate people are more than fine with her being the nominee. 




While I don't think these were good faith questions, I hope I answered them satisfactorily (it is Saturday after all) in a way that is in good faith. 

Tim Simmons

Philly NJ said:

mostly due to their polices.  

Can I get a citation on this? 

Go Beavers

Philly NJ said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Philly NJ said:

Tim Simmons said:

Cynicism (and certain politicians and media) make you think EVERYONE in DC is corrupt. Thats not true. There are hard working and good people there that believe in the idea of democracy. The problem is we don’t hold politicians and the system to account. Bringing in a new asshole doesn’t fix things. Voting for good people do. Blowing the system up doesn’t fix it either. 

But what aggravates people is, the system moves slowly. I could quote a PJ lyric but it’s cringe. Change happens slowly. Sorry that’s the way it is.

The system is broken.  What government institution do you have faith in? For me, not a single one I can think of. Career bureaucrats and career politicians have sold us all out for the good of themselves and their hidden (until recently) agendas. We are lied to everyday. Good people get punished by the system.

vote for trump tho. he will drain the swamp for sure given a 2nd opportunity.

Trump will try given the chance. The Swamp is powerful.  Funny how no one wants to talk about Harris/Biden on this Harris/Biden thread. They always revert back to Trump.

Incredible that people think Trump is anti corruption. 

Gern Blansten

Incredible ad buy from the Harris campaign today for labor day until the election. 

gimmesometruth27

Go Beavers said:

Philly NJ said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Philly NJ said:

Tim Simmons said:

Cynicism (and certain politicians and media) make you think EVERYONE in DC is corrupt. Thats not true. There are hard working and good people there that believe in the idea of democracy. The problem is we don’t hold politicians and the system to account. Bringing in a new asshole doesn’t fix things. Voting for good people do. Blowing the system up doesn’t fix it either. 

But what aggravates people is, the system moves slowly. I could quote a PJ lyric but it’s cringe. Change happens slowly. Sorry that’s the way it is.

The system is broken.  What government institution do you have faith in? For me, not a single one I can think of. Career bureaucrats and career politicians have sold us all out for the good of themselves and their hidden (until recently) agendas. We are lied to everyday. Good people get punished by the system.

vote for trump tho. he will drain the swamp for sure given a 2nd opportunity.

Trump will try given the chance. The Swamp is powerful.  Funny how no one wants to talk about Harris/Biden on this Harris/Biden thread. They always revert back to Trump.

Incredible that people think Trump is anti corruption. 

a convicted felon that was impeached for trying to extort ukraine into making up lies about the biden family is not anti corruption.

maga cannot grasp that fact.