** KAMALA HARRIS FOR PRESIDENT -PART DEUX **

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,105
    Polls and a cup of coffee will get you a ham sammich.

    I figure that there are a number of repubs who are remaining silent but will vote Harris and a number of repubs who are remaining silent and voting POOTWH. Both are embarrassed and afraid of the respective backlash. One can hope the former has greater numbers.
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  • Philly NJ
    Philly NJ Posts: 245
    njhaley1 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Liz Cheney endorses Harris for president

    It's the latest high-profile Republican endorsement for Vice President Kamala Harris' presidential bid.
    Get more news
    on






    Sept. 4, 2024, 6:17 PM EDT
    By Kelly O'Donnell, Gabe Gutierrez and Megan Lebowitz

    WASHINGTON — Former Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., on Wednesday endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris for president, the latest high-profile Republican endorsement for Democrats.

    Cheney's comments took place during an appearance at Duke University’s Sanford School of Public Policy.


    continues.....


    Damn, son. Still need Cindy McCain, Mitt Romney, GWB.

    I'm guessing some or all will also hold for maximum impact. 


    Liz Cheney
    ·
    Aug 11, 2020
    Kamala Harris is a radical liberal who would raise taxes, take away guns & health insurance, and explode the size and power of the federal gov’t. She wants to recreate America in the image of what’s happening on the streets of Portland & Seattle. We won’t give her the chance.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,769
    edited September 2024
    Philly NJ said:
    njhaley1 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Liz Cheney endorses Harris for president

    It's the latest high-profile Republican endorsement for Vice President Kamala Harris' presidential bid.
    Get more news
    on






    Sept. 4, 2024, 6:17 PM EDT
    By Kelly O'Donnell, Gabe Gutierrez and Megan Lebowitz

    WASHINGTON — Former Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., on Wednesday endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris for president, the latest high-profile Republican endorsement for Democrats.

    Cheney's comments took place during an appearance at Duke University’s Sanford School of Public Policy.


    continues.....


    Damn, son. Still need Cindy McCain, Mitt Romney, GWB.

    I'm guessing some or all will also hold for maximum impact. 


    Liz Cheney
    ·
    Aug 11, 2020
    Kamala Harris is a radical liberal who would raise taxes, take away guns & health insurance, and explode the size and power of the federal gov’t. She wants to recreate America in the image of what’s happening on the streets of Portland & Seattle. We won’t give her the chance.
    & since then Liz Cheney has woke the f up to the reality of our situation. 

    You should too. 
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    Philly NJ said:
    njhaley1 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Liz Cheney endorses Harris for president

    It's the latest high-profile Republican endorsement for Vice President Kamala Harris' presidential bid.
    Get more news
    on






    Sept. 4, 2024, 6:17 PM EDT
    By Kelly O'Donnell, Gabe Gutierrez and Megan Lebowitz

    WASHINGTON — Former Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., on Wednesday endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris for president, the latest high-profile Republican endorsement for Democrats.

    Cheney's comments took place during an appearance at Duke University’s Sanford School of Public Policy.


    continues.....


    Damn, son. Still need Cindy McCain, Mitt Romney, GWB.

    I'm guessing some or all will also hold for maximum impact. 


    Liz Cheney
    ·
    Aug 11, 2020
    Kamala Harris is a radical liberal who would raise taxes, take away guns & health insurance, and explode the size and power of the federal gov’t. She wants to recreate America in the image of what’s happening on the streets of Portland & Seattle. We won’t give her the chance.
    Were you at all concerned when JD Vance called Trump America’s Hitler?
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  • Gern Blansten
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    Philly NJ said:
    njhaley1 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Liz Cheney endorses Harris for president

    It's the latest high-profile Republican endorsement for Vice President Kamala Harris' presidential bid.
    Get more news
    on






    Sept. 4, 2024, 6:17 PM EDT
    By Kelly O'Donnell, Gabe Gutierrez and Megan Lebowitz

    WASHINGTON — Former Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., on Wednesday endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris for president, the latest high-profile Republican endorsement for Democrats.

    Cheney's comments took place during an appearance at Duke University’s Sanford School of Public Policy.


    continues.....


    Damn, son. Still need Cindy McCain, Mitt Romney, GWB.

    I'm guessing some or all will also hold for maximum impact. 


    Liz Cheney
    ·
    Aug 11, 2020
    Kamala Harris is a radical liberal who would raise taxes, take away guns & health insurance, and explode the size and power of the federal gov’t. She wants to recreate America in the image of what’s happening on the streets of Portland & Seattle. We won’t give her the chance.
    yeah...and still a better choice then orange fuckface
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  • Tim Simmons
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    But yeah, fuck her. 
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    Philly NJ said:
    njhaley1 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Liz Cheney endorses Harris for president

    It's the latest high-profile Republican endorsement for Vice President Kamala Harris' presidential bid.
    Get more news
    on






    Sept. 4, 2024, 6:17 PM EDT
    By Kelly O'Donnell, Gabe Gutierrez and Megan Lebowitz

    WASHINGTON — Former Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., on Wednesday endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris for president, the latest high-profile Republican endorsement for Democrats.

    Cheney's comments took place during an appearance at Duke University’s Sanford School of Public Policy.


    continues.....


    Damn, son. Still need Cindy McCain, Mitt Romney, GWB.

    I'm guessing some or all will also hold for maximum impact. 


    Liz Cheney
    ·
    Aug 11, 2020
    Kamala Harris is a radical liberal who would raise taxes, take away guns & health insurance, and explode the size and power of the federal gov’t. She wants to recreate America in the image of what’s happening on the streets of Portland & Seattle. We won’t give her the chance.
    i just checked and this was definitely stated prior to 1/6/2021.

    maga logic- people are definitely not allowed to change their mind or do what they believe is the right thing. they are always tied to their old opinions and must continue to show public fealty to trump...
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,546
    Philly NJ said:
    njhaley1 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Liz Cheney endorses Harris for president

    It's the latest high-profile Republican endorsement for Vice President Kamala Harris' presidential bid.
    Get more news
    on






    Sept. 4, 2024, 6:17 PM EDT
    By Kelly O'Donnell, Gabe Gutierrez and Megan Lebowitz

    WASHINGTON — Former Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., on Wednesday endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris for president, the latest high-profile Republican endorsement for Democrats.

    Cheney's comments took place during an appearance at Duke University’s Sanford School of Public Policy.


    continues.....


    Damn, son. Still need Cindy McCain, Mitt Romney, GWB.

    I'm guessing some or all will also hold for maximum impact. 


    Liz Cheney
    ·
    Aug 11, 2020
    Kamala Harris is a radical liberal who would raise taxes, take away guns & health insurance, and explode the size and power of the federal gov’t. She wants to recreate America in the image of what’s happening on the streets of Portland & Seattle. We won’t give her the chance.
    This doesn’t have the impact you think it has. This either means that Cheney’s endorsing her despite her being a radical commie, because Trump is worse, or that she’s not an actual
    radical commie. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,370
    edited September 2024
    Go Beavers said:
    Philly NJ said:
    njhaley1 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Liz Cheney endorses Harris for president

    It's the latest high-profile Republican endorsement for Vice President Kamala Harris' presidential bid.
    Get more news
    on






    Sept. 4, 2024, 6:17 PM EDT
    By Kelly O'Donnell, Gabe Gutierrez and Megan Lebowitz

    WASHINGTON — Former Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., on Wednesday endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris for president, the latest high-profile Republican endorsement for Democrats.

    Cheney's comments took place during an appearance at Duke University’s Sanford School of Public Policy.


    continues.....


    Damn, son. Still need Cindy McCain, Mitt Romney, GWB.

    I'm guessing some or all will also hold for maximum impact. 


    Liz Cheney
    ·
    Aug 11, 2020
    Kamala Harris is a radical liberal who would raise taxes, take away guns & health insurance, and explode the size and power of the federal gov’t. She wants to recreate America in the image of what’s happening on the streets of Portland & Seattle. We won’t give her the chance.
    This doesn’t have the impact you think it has. This either means that Cheney’s endorsing her despite her being a radical commie, because Trump is worse, or that she’s not an actual
    radical commie. 

    maybe its fuckstick that is.....
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  • njhaley1
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    Philly NJ said:
    njhaley1 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Liz Cheney endorses Harris for president

    It's the latest high-profile Republican endorsement for Vice President Kamala Harris' presidential bid.
    Get more news
    on






    Sept. 4, 2024, 6:17 PM EDT
    By Kelly O'Donnell, Gabe Gutierrez and Megan Lebowitz

    WASHINGTON — Former Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., on Wednesday endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris for president, the latest high-profile Republican endorsement for Democrats.

    Cheney's comments took place during an appearance at Duke University’s Sanford School of Public Policy.


    continues.....


    Damn, son. Still need Cindy McCain, Mitt Romney, GWB.

    I'm guessing some or all will also hold for maximum impact. 


    Liz Cheney
    ·
    Aug 11, 2020
    Kamala Harris is a radical liberal who would raise taxes, take away guns & health insurance, and explode the size and power of the federal gov’t. She wants to recreate America in the image of what’s happening on the streets of Portland & Seattle. We won’t give her the chance.
    Trump must be really bad for her to endorse Kamala now, then. 
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,525
    Gern Blansten said:
    "allowing alleged criminal activity"....hmmm

    yeah judge I didn't rob this bank but I held the door open for the robbers and helped them load up their trunk with cash before I drove them away
    Running a social media platform with millions of users where a couple users engage in criminal activity is not remotely comparable to directly taking part in a bank robbery.

    There is a legitimate argument here but you guys aren't getting close to it: What responsibility does a social media company have to comply with law enforcement requests? Which requests should you comply with and which should you resist as government overreach? Very complicated questions and probably better for "over beers" vs a message board conversation.

    I only brought up this case as a reference point for why the Harris clip surfaced. My feelings on it are complex.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,525
    mickeyrat said:
    pjl44 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    pjl44 said:
    It's exactly the point of the clip. It's surfacing again because of Pavel Durov's arrest, Reich's Guardian piece, etc.
    This guy was arrested and he's being charged with money laundry is he not? So tell me what does that have to do with free speech.

    He is not, no
    fair enough. I read that in an early article. it may have been he's suspected of that.  BUT then theres this.
    so, same question. What do these have to so with free speech?

    The core of the issue with him is when and how should a social media company comply with government or law enforcement? There can be very obvious cases like if they're investigating a murder. But what if the FBI reached out for all of Jake Tapper's activity and won't tell you why. In what scenarios can you refuse? Or should you refuse? And how do you write a rugged internal policy around that?
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,525
    edited September 2024
    Tim Simmons said:
    That’s like a topped off Pinot Grigio for the MSNBC moms. 

    Fuck that woman and her family. 
    The embrace of Liz Cheney and the most duplicitous McCain staffers who founded the Lincoln Project. Continues to flummox me! My enemy's enemy is hairy territory.
    Post edited by pjl44 on
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited September 2024
    pjl44 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    That’s like a topped off Pinot Grigio for the MSNBC moms. 

    Fuck that woman and her family. 
    The embrace of Liz Cheney and the most duplicitous McCain staffers who founded the Lincoln Project. Continues to flummox me! My enemy's enemy is hairy territory.
    Really? It should not flummox you when you consider how much of a danger Trump represents in general. These people rightly recognize that if things don't go well for Harris then they can just vote her out in four years and that she'd accept the results of the election.

    Conversely the other guy already tried to reverse the outcome of an election. That is all most rational people need to know.

    It's not a normal election and it is not overly complicated. 
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,525
    The Juggler said:
    pjl44 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    That’s like a topped off Pinot Grigio for the MSNBC moms. 

    Fuck that woman and her family. 
    The embrace of Liz Cheney and the most duplicitous McCain staffers who founded the Lincoln Project. Continues to flummox me! My enemy's enemy is hairy territory.
    Really? It should not flummox you when you consider how much of a danger Trump represents in general. These people rightly recognize that if things don't go well for Harris then they can just vote her out in four years. Conversely the other guy already tried to reverse the outcome of an election. That is all most rational people care about. It's not a normal election and it is not overly complicated. 
    The Lincoln Project engages in a lot of shit that is bad societally and also occasionally backfires. You have to be a pretty bloodless "ends justify the means" type to appreciate their work.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/oct/30/lincoln-project-glenn-youngkin-virginia-event
  • josevolution
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    Philly NJ said:
    njhaley1 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Liz Cheney endorses Harris for president

    It's the latest high-profile Republican endorsement for Vice President Kamala Harris' presidential bid.
    Get more news
    on






    Sept. 4, 2024, 6:17 PM EDT
    By Kelly O'Donnell, Gabe Gutierrez and Megan Lebowitz

    WASHINGTON — Former Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., on Wednesday endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris for president, the latest high-profile Republican endorsement for Democrats.

    Cheney's comments took place during an appearance at Duke University’s Sanford School of Public Policy.


    continues.....


    Damn, son. Still need Cindy McCain, Mitt Romney, GWB.

    I'm guessing some or all will also hold for maximum impact. 


    Liz Cheney
    ·
    Aug 11, 2020
    Kamala Harris is a radical liberal who would raise taxes, take away guns & health insurance, and explode the size and power of the federal gov’t. She wants to recreate America in the image of what’s happening on the streets of Portland & Seattle. We won’t give her the chance.
    Hey did attend the show last night? You know the show where Ed called out the judges for trampling women’s productive rights or the gun problem we have in this nation? 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • The Juggler
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    pjl44 said:
    The Juggler said:
    pjl44 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    That’s like a topped off Pinot Grigio for the MSNBC moms. 

    Fuck that woman and her family. 
    The embrace of Liz Cheney and the most duplicitous McCain staffers who founded the Lincoln Project. Continues to flummox me! My enemy's enemy is hairy territory.
    Really? It should not flummox you when you consider how much of a danger Trump represents in general. These people rightly recognize that if things don't go well for Harris then they can just vote her out in four years. Conversely the other guy already tried to reverse the outcome of an election. That is all most rational people care about. It's not a normal election and it is not overly complicated. 
    The Lincoln Project engages in a lot of shit that is bad societally and also occasionally backfires. You have to be a pretty bloodless "ends justify the means" type to appreciate their work.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/oct/30/lincoln-project-glenn-youngkin-virginia-event
    I don't care. The goal is to defeat maga and preserve democracy. They're on the right side of that battle.

    Like I said--this is not an overly complicated matter. 
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  • mrussel1
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    pjl44 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    "allowing alleged criminal activity"....hmmm

    yeah judge I didn't rob this bank but I held the door open for the robbers and helped them load up their trunk with cash before I drove them away
    Running a social media platform with millions of users where a couple users engage in criminal activity is not remotely comparable to directly taking part in a bank robbery.

    There is a legitimate argument here but you guys aren't getting close to it: What responsibility does a social media company have to comply with law enforcement requests? Which requests should you comply with and which should you resist as government overreach? Very complicated questions and probably better for "over beers" vs a message board conversation.

    I only brought up this case as a reference point for why the Harris clip surfaced. My feelings on it are complex.
    Okay let's use another analogy.  US Banks are required to comply with the Bank Secrecy Act.  It has a ton of requirements and I am happy to nerd out on OCC oversight rules, but let's stick to the one you probably have heard about.  Banks are required to file SARS reports any time daily transactions of individuals exceed $10k.  These are sent to FinCen and are part of standard KYC laws that every single national, state and credit union must adhere.  This helps the OCC and DOJ monitor for financial crimes.  

    So it's not like asking social media company to have TOS and reporting requirements to law enforcement, and to attend to law enforcement requests (with or without subpoena) is something crazy and Communist in this country.  Every single day the OCC makes data record requests of banks without a warrant and the banks adhere to them.  
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,525
    edited September 2024
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    "allowing alleged criminal activity"....hmmm

    yeah judge I didn't rob this bank but I held the door open for the robbers and helped them load up their trunk with cash before I drove them away
    Running a social media platform with millions of users where a couple users engage in criminal activity is not remotely comparable to directly taking part in a bank robbery.

    There is a legitimate argument here but you guys aren't getting close to it: What responsibility does a social media company have to comply with law enforcement requests? Which requests should you comply with and which should you resist as government overreach? Very complicated questions and probably better for "over beers" vs a message board conversation.

    I only brought up this case as a reference point for why the Harris clip surfaced. My feelings on it are complex.
    Okay let's use another analogy.  US Banks are required to comply with the Bank Secrecy Act.  It has a ton of requirements and I am happy to nerd out on OCC oversight rules, but let's stick to the one you probably have heard about.  Banks are required to file SARS reports any time daily transactions of individuals exceed $10k.  These are sent to FinCen and are part of standard KYC laws that every single national, state and credit union must adhere.  This helps the OCC and DOJ monitor for financial crimes.  

    So it's not like asking social media company to have TOS and reporting requirements to law enforcement, and to attend to law enforcement requests (with or without subpoena) is something crazy and Communist in this country.  Every single day the OCC makes data record requests of banks without a warrant and the banks adhere to them.  
    The SARS reports you mention are in my opinion a bad requirement, overreaching, and something I would support eliminating. Extending a similar policy to social media companies is something I would aggressively oppose.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    "allowing alleged criminal activity"....hmmm

    yeah judge I didn't rob this bank but I held the door open for the robbers and helped them load up their trunk with cash before I drove them away
    Running a social media platform with millions of users where a couple users engage in criminal activity is not remotely comparable to directly taking part in a bank robbery.

    There is a legitimate argument here but you guys aren't getting close to it: What responsibility does a social media company have to comply with law enforcement requests? Which requests should you comply with and which should you resist as government overreach? Very complicated questions and probably better for "over beers" vs a message board conversation.

    I only brought up this case as a reference point for why the Harris clip surfaced. My feelings on it are complex.
    Okay let's use another analogy.  US Banks are required to comply with the Bank Secrecy Act.  It has a ton of requirements and I am happy to nerd out on OCC oversight rules, but let's stick to the one you probably have heard about.  Banks are required to file SARS reports any time daily transactions of individuals exceed $10k.  These are sent to FinCen and are part of standard KYC laws that every single national, state and credit union must adhere.  This helps the OCC and DOJ monitor for financial crimes.  

    So it's not like asking social media company to have TOS and reporting requirements to law enforcement, and to attend to law enforcement requests (with or without subpoena) is something crazy and Communist in this country.  Every single day the OCC makes data record requests of banks without a warrant and the banks adhere to them.  
    The SARS reports you mention are in my opinion a bad requirement, overreaching, and something I would support eliminating. Extending a similar policy to social media companies is something I would aggressively oppose.
    Well for a good period of time I worked directly with the OCC as the official rep of a large, national bank.  And I can tell you that the reports are effective at snuffing out money laundering operations as well as reducing the threat of terrorism.  But you've already shown us a few times that you are more pro-criminal, since you don't mind Trump breaking the law publicly.  Either way, I don't care what you support.  Instead you act like the off the cuff statement by Harris was some fascist, communist (pick your pejorative) hellscape when we continue to provide examples of existing US law, policy and customs that are similar and did not descend us into the specter of jack-booted thugs roaming the streets.  
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