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edited September 25
Per the AMA, there are 4,890 transgender individuals incarcerated in state prisons in the US and approximately another 1200 are in federal prisons. That's out of an estimated 2-2.3 million incarcerated people, total, in this country of 345 million.
That's 0.28% of incarcerated people, 0.00174% of Americans.
Assuming gender-affirming care costs $100,000 per person, and 6000 prisoners asked for that care, that would cost $600M. That's a lot of money! But the US federal budget is $6.5T this year (one trillion = one million million), so $600M = 0.009% of the federal budget.
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All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.
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Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 3,990
(I was a humanities major -- math is hard! LOL)
All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.
In support of what I said a little earlier, instead of berating a group of people we disagree with (but do berate Trump and Vance, please, they deserve it), let's get out some information that might turn some of the MAGA people around. Like, for example, this from Heather Cox Richardson's letter this evening. Make photo copies of this and pass them around:
On
Sunday, a bipartisan group of 741 national security leaders—some of the
biggest names in the field—endorsed Harris. “To the American People,”
they wrote. “We are former public servants who swore an oath to the
Constitution. Many of us risked our lives for it. We are retired
generals, admirals, senior noncommissioned officers, ambassadors, and
senior civilian national security leaders. We are Republicans,
Democrats, and Independents. We are loyal to the ideals of our
nation—like freedom, democracy, and the rule of law—not to any one
individual or party.
“We
do not agree on everything, but we all adhere to two fundamental
principles. First, we believe America’s national security requires a
serious and capable Commander-in-Chief. Second, we believe American
democracy is invaluable. Each generation has a responsibility to defend
it. That is why we, the undersigned, proudly endorse Kamala Harris to be
the next President of the United States.
“This
election is a choice between serious leadership and vengeful
impulsiveness. It is a choice between democracy and authoritarianism.
Vice President Harris defends America’s democratic ideals, while former
President Donald Trump endangers them.
“We
do not make such an assessment lightly. We are trained to make sober,
rational decisions. That is how we know Vice President Harris would make
an excellent Commander-in-Chief, while Mr. Trump has proven he is not
up to the job.”
Kinda reminds me of the 51 "national intelligence" experts that said the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation. If I recall, Donald was POTUS for 4 years and I don't remember any "vengeful impulsiveness".
Harris/Biden have presided
over more evacuations of U.S. embassies—a total of 11—than any other
presidential administration in U.S. history.
I also recall Harris/Biden allowing Chinese spy balloons to cross the US, and lie about it. I recall the Harris/Biden vax mandate resulting in 1000s of highly trained Special Operation soldiers leaving the military. So much more...
you mean the chinese balloon that was shot down as soon as it was safe to do so? that balloon?
Do you really believe that? We want to know if you honestly believe that.
considering i watched an f-22 shoot it down, yeah.
We want to know if you believe it was shot down "as soon as it was safe to do so". The China spy balloon was first detected over Alaska. Harris/Biden waited to shoot it down off the coast of Myrtle Beach.
Imagine giving a shit about the spy balloon when the GOP candidate for president is liable to sell our national secrets to the highest bidder or worse... give them to anyone who flatters him?
In support of what I said a little earlier, instead of berating a group of people we disagree with (but do berate Trump and Vance, please, they deserve it), let's get out some information that might turn some of the MAGA people around. Like, for example, this from Heather Cox Richardson's letter this evening. Make photo copies of this and pass them around:
On
Sunday, a bipartisan group of 741 national security leaders—some of the
biggest names in the field—endorsed Harris. “To the American People,”
they wrote. “We are former public servants who swore an oath to the
Constitution. Many of us risked our lives for it. We are retired
generals, admirals, senior noncommissioned officers, ambassadors, and
senior civilian national security leaders. We are Republicans,
Democrats, and Independents. We are loyal to the ideals of our
nation—like freedom, democracy, and the rule of law—not to any one
individual or party.
“We
do not agree on everything, but we all adhere to two fundamental
principles. First, we believe America’s national security requires a
serious and capable Commander-in-Chief. Second, we believe American
democracy is invaluable. Each generation has a responsibility to defend
it. That is why we, the undersigned, proudly endorse Kamala Harris to be
the next President of the United States.
“This
election is a choice between serious leadership and vengeful
impulsiveness. It is a choice between democracy and authoritarianism.
Vice President Harris defends America’s democratic ideals, while former
President Donald Trump endangers them.
“We
do not make such an assessment lightly. We are trained to make sober,
rational decisions. That is how we know Vice President Harris would make
an excellent Commander-in-Chief, while Mr. Trump has proven he is not
up to the job.”
Kinda reminds me of the 51 "national intelligence" experts that said the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation. If I recall, Donald was POTUS for 4 years and I don't remember any "vengeful impulsiveness".
Harris/Biden have presided
over more evacuations of U.S. embassies—a total of 11—than any other
presidential administration in U.S. history.
I also recall Harris/Biden allowing Chinese spy balloons to cross the US, and lie about it. I recall the Harris/Biden vax mandate resulting in 1000s of highly trained Special Operation soldiers leaving the military. So much more...
you mean the chinese balloon that was shot down as soon as it was safe to do so? that balloon?
Do you really believe that? We want to know if you honestly believe that.
considering i watched an f-22 shoot it down, yeah.
We want to know if you believe it was shot down "as soon as it was safe to do so". The China spy balloon was first detected over Alaska. Harris/Biden waited to shoot it down off the coast of Myrtle Beach.
Why do you keep saying "we"? Are you referencing the general collective on here or are all banned posters using your account these days?
Imagine giving a shit about the spy balloon when the GOP candidate for president is liable to sell our national secrets to the highest bidder or worse... give them to anyone who flatters him?
‘The special counsel’s indictment alleges that those in attendance at the meeting with Trump — including a writer, a publisher and two of Trump’s staff members — were shown classified information about a Pentagon plan of attack on an unspecified foreign country.
“These are the papers,” Trump says in a moment that seems to indicate he’s holding a secret Pentagon document with plans to attack Iran. “This was done by the military, given to me.”
This is Autumn Cordellione, he strangled a 11 month old baby to death. He is serving 55 years in prison He wants a sex-change operation in prison. In Kamala’s America he/she/it gets one……on the American tax-payers dime. It’s not medically necessary, it’s an elective ($100,000) procedure.
This is Autumn Cordellione, he strangled a 11 month old baby to death. He is serving 55 years in prison He wants a sex-change operation in prison. In Kamala’s America he/she/it gets one……on the American tax-payers dime. It’s not medically necessary, it’s an elective ($100,000) procedure.
Imagine giving a shit about the spy balloon when the GOP candidate for president is liable to sell our national secrets to the highest bidder or worse... give them to anyone who flatters him?
Iran hacking the Trump campaign and sending info to the Harris campaign but no one claiming “election interference”?
If this was Russia hacking Harris and sending it to Trump the Democrats/FBI would be hysterical as would this whole message board. But that’s the content of character you have to expect from Dems.
Same as the 30% of Democrats that were upset the assassination attempts were unsuccessful. Sick people. You know who you are.
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Imagine giving a shit about the spy balloon when the GOP candidate for president is liable to sell our national secrets to the highest bidder or worse... give them to anyone who flatters him?
Iran hacking the Trump campaign and sending info to the Harris campaign but no one claiming “election interference”?
If this was Russia hacking Harris and sending it to Trump the Democrats/FBI would be hysterical as would this whole message board. But that’s the content of character you have to expect from Dems.
Same as the 30% of Democrats that were upset the assassination attempts were unsuccessful. Sick people. You know who you are.
The Harris campaign rejected the offer and worked with intelligence. The Trump campaign was looped in on the DNC hack by Russia and then Trump and Flynn lied to intelligence about their knowledge of it.
Kamala supports tax payer funded sex change operations for prisoners and illegal immigrants in detention, it’s on record.
I don’t care how many whether it’s 1 or 1 million, or how much it costs. Making tax payers pay for it is wrong. They can have all the surgeries they want on their own dime.
When you strangle and kill a baby, you lose those rights! If you don’t agree, you are a sick person and lack any kind of morals. No if and or buts.
People here want Trump in jail for 34 felonies. (For paying a porn star $134k) but sympathize with a baby killer transitioning? Sick world we live in.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Kamala supports tax payer funded sex change operations for prisoners and illegal immigrants in detention, it’s on record.
I don’t care how many whether it’s 1 or 1 million, or how much it costs. Making tax payers pay for it is wrong. They can have all the surgeries they want on their own dime.
When you strangle and kill a baby, you lose those rights! If you don’t agree, you are a sick person and lack any kind of morals. No if and or buts.
People here want Trump in jail for 34 felonies. (For paying a porn star $134k) but sympathize with a baby killer transitioning? Sick world we live in.
where in the constitution does it say that?
why do you hate america and our founding document so much?
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Kamala supports tax payer funded sex change operations for prisoners and illegal immigrants in detention, it’s on record.
I don’t care how many whether it’s 1 or 1 million, or how much it costs. Making tax payers pay for it is wrong. They can have all the surgeries they want on their own dime.
When you strangle and kill a baby, you lose those rights! If you don’t agree, you are a sick person and lack any kind of morals. No if and or buts.
People here want Trump in jail for 34 felonies. (For paying a porn star $134k) but sympathize with a baby killer transitioning? Sick world we live in.
Kamala supports tax payer funded sex change operations for prisoners and illegal immigrants in detention, it’s on record.
I don’t care how many whether it’s 1 or 1 million, or how much it costs. Making tax payers pay for it is wrong. They can have all the surgeries they want on their own dime.
When you strangle and kill a baby, you lose those rights! If you don’t agree, you are a sick person and lack any kind of morals. No if and or buts.
People here want Trump in jail for 34 felonies. (For paying a porn star $134k) but sympathize with a baby killer transitioning? Sick world we live in.
Agreed, we should lock them up and then foot the bill for incarcerating them.
Deplorable people with no morals. Lives revolve around hating Trump and can’t go an hour without thinking or posting about him. Worship celebrities and their opinions until their hero’s are arrested for “freak outs”. Defenders of democracy who grew up as middle class kids as well. But secretly wish a candidate was assisinated, what great patriots we have here! Carry on!
Deplorable people with no morals. Lives revolve around hating Trump and can’t go an hour without thinking or posting about him. Worship celebrities and their opinions until their hero’s are arrested for “freak outs”. Defenders of democracy who grew up as middle class kids as well. But secretly wish a candidate was assisinated, what great patriots we have here! Carry on!
no no no. a good long life. to 110 yrs. while he sits in prison for his crimes against this country.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Deplorable people with no morals. Lives revolve around hating Trump and can’t go an hour without thinking or posting about him. Worship celebrities and their opinions until their hero’s are arrested for “freak outs”. Defenders of democracy who grew up as middle class kids as well. But secretly wish a candidate was assisinated, what great patriots we have here! Carry on!
seems like maga needs a tissue
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curmudgeoness
Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 3,990
Lots of straw man arguments happening. Can we please stop feeding the trolls?
All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.
That was yesterday with all the doom and gloom here of latest polls released. And one guy trying to convince everyone that the Teamsters actually did endorse Harris for over a week now . 😂😂😂😂
Deplorable people with no morals. Lives revolve around hating Trump and can’t go an hour without thinking or posting about him. Worship celebrities and their opinions until their hero’s are arrested for “freak outs”. Defenders of democracy who grew up as middle class kids as well. But secretly wish a candidate was assisinated, what great patriots we have here! Carry on!
We can do the other side like this, but what does this accomplish. You don’t like liberals, we get it. We aren’t convincing you and you aren’t convincing us. So what are you doing here?
That was yesterday with all the doom and gloom here of latest polls released. And one guy trying to convince everyone that the Teamsters actually did endorse Harris for over a week now . 😂😂😂😂
you tell em maga! you tell em good!
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curmudgeoness
Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 3,990
I guess I’d be offended by the ad hominem attacks, had I actually grown up middle class, or if I worshipped (srsly, wtf?) anyone or anything, or if I sat around cultivating homicidal fantasies. But I didn’t, and I don’t, so I guess I’m okay. 🤷🏻♀️ I can hear the yelling through the mute function and the computer screen though. It reminds me of my mother, who would start screaming “What about BENGHAZI!?!” whenever politics came up. I haven’t talked to her in a decade…. The rage is corrosive. You can lob all the baseless attacks you want at me, and it won’t fill the hole inside you, it can’t hurt me, and it won’t change who I actually am.
I Love this country, I love the Constitution, and I believe in the idea of America. Internet randos can scream all they want and that won’t change.
All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.
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‘The special counsel’s indictment alleges that those in attendance at the meeting with Trump — including a writer, a publisher and two of Trump’s staff members — were shown classified information about a Pentagon plan of attack on an unspecified foreign country.
“These are the papers,” Trump says in a moment that seems to indicate he’s holding a secret Pentagon document with plans to attack Iran. “This was done by the military, given to me.”
Focusing on the issues that matter!
If this was Russia hacking Harris and sending it to Trump the Democrats/FBI would be hysterical as would this whole message board. But that’s the content of character you have to expect from Dems.
Same as the 30% of Democrats that were upset the assassination attempts were unsuccessful. Sick people. You know who you are.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I don’t care how many whether it’s 1 or 1 million, or how much it costs. Making tax payers pay for it is wrong. They can have all the surgeries they want on their own dime.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
no no no. a good long life. to 110 yrs. while he sits in prison for his crimes against this country.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
Brilliantati©
But I didn’t, and I don’t, so I guess I’m okay. 🤷🏻♀️
I can hear the yelling through the mute function and the computer screen though. It reminds me of my mother, who would start screaming “What about BENGHAZI!?!” whenever politics came up. I haven’t talked to her in a decade….
The rage is corrosive. You can lob all the baseless attacks you want at me, and it won’t fill the hole inside you, it can’t hurt me, and it won’t change who I actually am.