Its amazing the amount of time and effort that has gone into debating this issue over the past few years vs the amount of people it affects. Imagine if people cared had opinions on much more important shit.
yep, being forced to show your junk to a gym teacher never caused any problems. ever.
Where I’m from it was a school doctor. Not a gym teacher. I cant speak for canada. Also, students had the option to go to their primary care physician to have the physical if they were uncomfortable doing it at school. I fail to see what the harm in this is. There is zero harm in a doctor making sure boys aren’t playing with girls.
You had a school doctor confirm your sex?
You had a school doctor examine you to clear you to play sports. That entailed dropping your pants and having your balls checked. So indirectly, if you want to frame it that way, yes.
yep, being forced to show your junk to a gym teacher never caused any problems. ever.
Where I’m from it was a school doctor. Not a gym teacher. I cant speak for canada. Also, students had the option to go to their primary care physician to have the physical if they were uncomfortable doing it at school. I fail to see what the harm in this is. There is zero harm in a doctor making sure boys aren’t playing with girls.
so you showed your junk to a school doctor? how about the painfully obvious? bring your birth certificate when registering for a sport. or do americans still not believe birth certificates?
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
I was asked to "turn your head and cough" in sports physicals decades ago. I cannot confirm nor deny whether my physician had served any time in their past, however.
1993: 11/22 Little Rock
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa 2022: 9/20 OKC 2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
I was asked to "turn your head and cough" in sports physicals decades ago. I cannot confirm nor deny whether my physician had served any time in their past, however.
Exactly. They are checking for hernia. Turn your head and cough…
yep, being forced to show your junk to a gym teacher never caused any problems. ever.
Where I’m from it was a school doctor. Not a gym teacher. I cant speak for canada. Also, students had the option to go to their primary care physician to have the physical if they were uncomfortable doing it at school. I fail to see what the harm in this is. There is zero harm in a doctor making sure boys aren’t playing with girls.
so you showed your junk to a school doctor? how about the painfully obvious? bring your birth certificate when registering for a sport. or do americans still not believe birth certificates?
The student is being cleared to play sports. It wasn’t a sex check, it was a hernia examination . But certainly could serve that purpose too, eh?
I was asked to "turn your head and cough" in sports physicals decades ago. I cannot confirm nor deny whether my physician had served any time in their past, however.
Exactly. They are checking for hernia. Turn your head and cough…
Yes sir
1993: 11/22 Little Rock
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa 2022: 9/20 OKC 2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
yep, being forced to show your junk to a gym teacher never caused any problems. ever.
Where I’m from it was a school doctor. Not a gym teacher. I cant speak for canada. Also, students had the option to go to their primary care physician to have the physical if they were uncomfortable doing it at school. I fail to see what the harm in this is. There is zero harm in a doctor making sure boys aren’t playing with girls.
so you showed your junk to a school doctor? how about the painfully obvious? bring your birth certificate when registering for a sport. or do americans still not believe birth certificates?
Sorry youre mad at me, Hugh for playing sports and having a physical performed in order to do so. Don’t worry about Americans, focus on yourself.
yep, being forced to show your junk to a gym teacher never caused any problems. ever.
Where I’m from it was a school doctor. Not a gym teacher. I cant speak for canada. Also, students had the option to go to their primary care physician to have the physical if they were uncomfortable doing it at school. I fail to see what the harm in this is. There is zero harm in a doctor making sure boys aren’t playing with girls.
so you showed your junk to a school doctor? how about the painfully obvious? bring your birth certificate when registering for a sport. or do americans still not believe birth certificates?
The student is being cleared to play sports. It wasn’t a sex check, it was a hernia examination . But certainly could serve that purpose too, eh?
But funds weren't exchanged directly with the doc. We paid the admin out front so there wasn't a quid pro quo situation with the physician
1993: 11/22 Little Rock
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa 2022: 9/20 OKC 2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
yep, being forced to show your junk to a gym teacher never caused any problems. ever.
Where I’m from it was a school doctor. Not a gym teacher. I cant speak for canada. Also, students had the option to go to their primary care physician to have the physical if they were uncomfortable doing it at school. I fail to see what the harm in this is. There is zero harm in a doctor making sure boys aren’t playing with girls.
so you showed your junk to a school doctor? how about the painfully obvious? bring your birth certificate when registering for a sport. or do americans still not believe birth certificates?
Sorry youre mad at me, Hugh for playing sports and having a physical performed in order to do so. Don’t worry about Americans, focus on yourself.
this is embarrassing.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
yep, being forced to show your junk to a gym teacher never caused any problems. ever.
Where I’m from it was a school doctor. Not a gym teacher. I cant speak for canada. Also, students had the option to go to their primary care physician to have the physical if they were uncomfortable doing it at school. I fail to see what the harm in this is. There is zero harm in a doctor making sure boys aren’t playing with girls.
so you showed your junk to a school doctor? how about the painfully obvious? bring your birth certificate when registering for a sport. or do americans still not believe birth certificates?
Sorry youre mad at me, Hugh for playing sports and having a physical performed in order to do so. Don’t worry about Americans, focus on yourself.
This was always a non-brainer issue for me. There are few issues where I cannot see the other side at all....this is one of them.
No brainer is one way to describe his EO. It defined sex as what we are at conception, when we were all girls. Another one of Trump’s dense ideas done to make his base foam at the mouth that goes nowhere because the courts shoot it down
yep, being forced to show your junk to a gym teacher never caused any problems. ever.
Where I’m from it was a school doctor. Not a gym teacher. I cant speak for canada. Also, students had the option to go to their primary care physician to have the physical if they were uncomfortable doing it at school. I fail to see what the harm in this is. There is zero harm in a doctor making sure boys aren’t playing with girls.
so you showed your junk to a school doctor? how about the painfully obvious? bring your birth certificate when registering for a sport. or do americans still not believe birth certificates?
Sorry youre mad at me, Hugh for playing sports and having a physical performed in order to do so. Don’t worry about Americans, focus on yourself.
A doc won’t find a peen on a trans woman who’s had lower surgery. We’re going to need to think some more.
We are discussing youth sports, correct? Are minors actually allowed to cut their shit off?
For adults there are plenty of simple ways for vetting. We just have to get over the political correctness bullshit and stop worrying about making everyone happy and comfortable. Thats life.
A doc won’t find a peen on a trans woman who’s had lower surgery. We’re going to need to think some more.
We are discussing youth sports, correct? Are minors actually allowed to cut their shit off?
It floats around. Trump’s EO included women. House republicans made reference to birth certificates, which creates issues for intersexed kids and many states don’t require sex to be indicated on the bc.
OP, what do you mean by "interacted with"? I'm assuming that means something like a forward and goalie running into each other while going for a header or something similar.
I'm just getting to your question now as I was quite busy yesterday and didn't have a chance to thoughtfully read all these posts. My 12 year old striker daughter got a rebound header goal after her first shot was struck back at her by the U14 genetic male goalie during the BC provincial playoffs.
so if I understand this , there was no physical contact between the two then?
could you share more details of the play in question, please? relative distances of your daughter to the goal, to the goalie, goalie from the mouth of the goal. relative size of each player.
did your daughter use good technique in this header? under the circumstances of this type of play.
as described thus far, it does sound as if this could have happened regardless of who the goalie might have been.
I believe the force which the genetic male exerted upon the ball that caused blind spots, headache, and concussion is greater than that of a female player.
It wasn't a good planned technique header, like her first two this season. The genetic male goalie defended her stike which smacked her face/head and rebounded in.
My son plays U13 travel soccer. The play is way more physical and the ball is kicked with a lot more force than in the girls U13 league.
Many girls would get hurt if the boys team played the girls team. Technique wouldn't make a difference.
The only time I feel comfortable with girls and boys playing together in soccer is in a rec league at a young age.
and the play was a goalie punched the ball back from an admitted poor technique header.
Close mickey...
The larger size genetic male goalie stopped my daughter's strike by punching it back at her which struck her head and rebounded in counting as a header, not the best header she's done!
At the provincial finals, the kids made it to the silver/gold game with that goal, and they were playing up a year against an older team, and took a medal home!
yep, being forced to show your junk to a gym teacher never caused any problems. ever.
Where I’m from it was a school doctor. Not a gym teacher. I cant speak for canada. Also, students had the option to go to their primary care physician to have the physical if they were uncomfortable doing it at school. I fail to see what the harm in this is. There is zero harm in a doctor making sure boys aren’t playing with girls.
so you showed your junk to a school doctor? how about the painfully obvious? bring your birth certificate when registering for a sport. or do americans still not believe birth certificates?
Sorry youre mad at me, Hugh for playing sports and having a physical performed in order to do so. Don’t worry about Americans, focus on yourself.
this is embarrassing.
Cheer up, Hugh. 🥃
dude.
😂 quite something isn’t it? I know it’s overused, but if it’s apt, it’s apt:
when people show you who they are, believe them.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
yep, being forced to show your junk to a gym teacher never caused any problems. ever.
Where I’m from it was a school doctor. Not a gym teacher. I cant speak for canada. Also, students had the option to go to their primary care physician to have the physical if they were uncomfortable doing it at school. I fail to see what the harm in this is. There is zero harm in a doctor making sure boys aren’t playing with girls.
You had a school doctor confirm your sex?
You had a school doctor examine you to clear you to play sports. That entailed dropping your pants and having your balls checked. So indirectly, if you want to frame it that way, yes.
That wasn't to confirm your sex though. That was just a physical which included a hernia exam
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yep, being forced to show your junk to a gym teacher never caused any problems. ever.
Where I’m from it was a school doctor. Not a gym teacher. I cant speak for canada. Also, students had the option to go to their primary care physician to have the physical if they were uncomfortable doing it at school. I fail to see what the harm in this is. There is zero harm in a doctor making sure boys aren’t playing with girls.
You had a school doctor confirm your sex?
You had a school doctor examine you to clear you to play sports. That entailed dropping your pants and having your balls checked. So indirectly, if you want to frame it that way, yes.
That wasn't to confirm your sex though. That was just a physical which included a hernia exam
That has already been discussed yesterday. You didn’t read the discussion, Gern.
I think a lot of people are overthinking the issue.
1. Is it a good idea for safety reasons. My opinion is it's a real concern
2. In non contact sports is it fair to biological females and or trans people. This can be debated.
There’s a lot of high school girls in wrestling who compete against boys. So maybe more thinking on the issue is a good thing.
Wrestling is an interesting contact support. It's controlled contact and by weight.
We had a female champion last year for one of our state weight class. It was good to see.
I think the discussion is whether (biological) boys should be competing in female sports. I don't think most people have an issue with girls/parents choosing to sign up to compete against boys if they have the ability.
I think a lot of people are overthinking the issue.
1. Is it a good idea for safety reasons. My opinion is it's a real concern
2. In non contact sports is it fair to biological females and or trans people. This can be debated.
There’s a lot of high school girls in wrestling who compete against boys. So maybe more thinking on the issue is a good thing.
Wrestling is an interesting contact support. It's controlled contact and by weight.
We had a female champion last year for one of our state weight class. It was good to see.
I think the discussion is whether (biological) boys should be competing in female sports. I don't think most people have an issue with girls/parents choosing to sign up to compete against boys if they have the ability.
That’s the discussion, which also includes adults. Point being it can be a pretty complicated situation due to the fact that both gender and sex isn’t always a black and white situation. You now have trans men, in theory based on the EO, who have the strength of a male athlete being told they have to compete against women.
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1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
-EV 8/14/93
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
-EV 8/14/93
For adults there are plenty of simple ways for vetting. We just have to get over the political correctness bullshit and stop worrying about making everyone happy and comfortable. Thats life.
The larger size genetic male goalie stopped my daughter's strike by punching it back at her which struck her head and rebounded in counting as a header, not the best header she's done!
At the provincial finals, the kids made it to the silver/gold game with that goal, and they were playing up a year against an older team, and took a medal home!
when people show you who they are, believe them.
-EV 8/14/93
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
We had a female champion last year for one of our state weight class. It was good to see.
I think the discussion is whether (biological) boys should be competing in female sports. I don't think most people have an issue with girls/parents choosing to sign up to compete against boys if they have the ability.