Keeping Men out of Women's Sports

DE4173 · February 7

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https://x.com/CNviolations/status/1887937000667283509?t=ISFcUkd8XaHTOkqOOs26Gw&s=19

Tim Simmons · February 7

Its amazing the amount of time and effort that has gone into debating this issue over the past few years vs the amount of people it affects. Imagine if people cared had opinions on much more important shit.

battle1 · February 7

OnWis97 said:

battle1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

yep, being forced to show your junk to a gym teacher never caused any problems. ever.

Where I’m from it was a school doctor. Not a gym teacher. I cant speak for canada. Also, students had the option to go to their primary care physician to have the physical if they were uncomfortable doing it at school. I fail to see what the harm in this is. There is zero harm in a doctor making sure boys aren’t playing with girls.

You had a school doctor confirm your sex?

You had a school doctor examine you to clear you to play sports. That entailed dropping your pants and having your balls checked. So indirectly, if you want to frame it that way, yes.

DE4173 · February 7

I truly believe people do care about more important things and the things that affect a larger amount of people.

HughFreakingDillon · February 7

battle1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

yep, being forced to show your junk to a gym teacher never caused any problems. ever.

Where I’m from it was a school doctor. Not a gym teacher. I cant speak for canada. Also, students had the option to go to their primary care physician to have the physical if they were uncomfortable doing it at school. I fail to see what the harm in this is. There is zero harm in a doctor making sure boys aren’t playing with girls.

so you showed your junk to a school doctor? how about the painfully obvious? bring your birth certificate when registering for a sport. or do americans still not believe birth certificates?

DE4173 · February 7

I was asked to "turn your head and cough" in sports physicals decades ago. I cannot confirm nor deny whether my physician had served any time in their past, however.

battle1 · February 7

DE4173 said:

I was asked to "turn your head and cough" in sports physicals decades ago. I cannot confirm nor deny whether my physician had served any time in their past, however.

Exactly. They are checking for hernia. Turn your head and cough…

battle1 · February 7

HughFreakingDillon said:

battle1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

yep, being forced to show your junk to a gym teacher never caused any problems. ever.

Where I’m from it was a school doctor. Not a gym teacher. I cant speak for canada. Also, students had the option to go to their primary care physician to have the physical if they were uncomfortable doing it at school. I fail to see what the harm in this is. There is zero harm in a doctor making sure boys aren’t playing with girls.

so you showed your junk to a school doctor? how about the painfully obvious? bring your birth certificate when registering for a sport. or do americans still not believe birth certificates?

The student is being cleared to play sports. It wasn’t a sex check, it was a hernia examination . But certainly could serve that purpose too, eh?

DE4173 · February 7

battle1 said:

DE4173 said:

I was asked to "turn your head and cough" in sports physicals decades ago. I cannot confirm nor deny whether my physician had served any time in their past, however.

Exactly. They are checking for hernia. Turn your head and cough…

Yes sir

battle1 · February 7

HughFreakingDillon said:

battle1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

yep, being forced to show your junk to a gym teacher never caused any problems. ever.

Where I’m from it was a school doctor. Not a gym teacher. I cant speak for canada. Also, students had the option to go to their primary care physician to have the physical if they were uncomfortable doing it at school. I fail to see what the harm in this is. There is zero harm in a doctor making sure boys aren’t playing with girls.

so you showed your junk to a school doctor? how about the painfully obvious? bring your birth certificate when registering for a sport. or do americans still not believe birth certificates?

Sorry youre mad at me, Hugh for playing sports and having a physical performed in order to do so. Don’t worry about Americans, focus on yourself.

DE4173 · February 7

battle1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

battle1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

yep, being forced to show your junk to a gym teacher never caused any problems. ever.

Where I’m from it was a school doctor. Not a gym teacher. I cant speak for canada. Also, students had the option to go to their primary care physician to have the physical if they were uncomfortable doing it at school. I fail to see what the harm in this is. There is zero harm in a doctor making sure boys aren’t playing with girls.

so you showed your junk to a school doctor? how about the painfully obvious? bring your birth certificate when registering for a sport. or do americans still not believe birth certificates?

The student is being cleared to play sports. It wasn’t a sex check, it was a hernia examination . But certainly could serve that purpose too, eh?

But funds weren't exchanged directly with the doc. We paid the admin out front so there wasn't a quid pro quo situation with the physician

HughFreakingDillon · February 7

battle1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

battle1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

yep, being forced to show your junk to a gym teacher never caused any problems. ever.

Where I’m from it was a school doctor. Not a gym teacher. I cant speak for canada. Also, students had the option to go to their primary care physician to have the physical if they were uncomfortable doing it at school. I fail to see what the harm in this is. There is zero harm in a doctor making sure boys aren’t playing with girls.

so you showed your junk to a school doctor? how about the painfully obvious? bring your birth certificate when registering for a sport. or do americans still not believe birth certificates?

Sorry youre mad at me, Hugh for playing sports and having a physical performed in order to do so. Don’t worry about Americans, focus on yourself.

this is embarrassing.

battle1 · February 7

HughFreakingDillon said:

battle1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

battle1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

yep, being forced to show your junk to a gym teacher never caused any problems. ever.

Where I’m from it was a school doctor. Not a gym teacher. I cant speak for canada. Also, students had the option to go to their primary care physician to have the physical if they were uncomfortable doing it at school. I fail to see what the harm in this is. There is zero harm in a doctor making sure boys aren’t playing with girls.

so you showed your junk to a school doctor? how about the painfully obvious? bring your birth certificate when registering for a sport. or do americans still not believe birth certificates?

Sorry youre mad at me, Hugh for playing sports and having a physical performed in order to do so. Don’t worry about Americans, focus on yourself.

this is embarrassing.

Cheer up, Hugh. 🥃

Go Beavers · February 8

cincybearcat said:

This was always a non-brainer issue for me. There are few issues where I cannot see the other side at all....this is one of them.

No brainer is one way to describe his EO. It defined sex as what we are at conception, when we were all girls. Another one of Trump’s dense ideas done to make his base foam at the mouth that goes nowhere because the courts shoot it down

Tim Simmons · February 8

battle1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

battle1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

battle1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

yep, being forced to show your junk to a gym teacher never caused any problems. ever.

Where I’m from it was a school doctor. Not a gym teacher. I cant speak for canada. Also, students had the option to go to their primary care physician to have the physical if they were uncomfortable doing it at school. I fail to see what the harm in this is. There is zero harm in a doctor making sure boys aren’t playing with girls.

so you showed your junk to a school doctor? how about the painfully obvious? bring your birth certificate when registering for a sport. or do americans still not believe birth certificates?

Sorry youre mad at me, Hugh for playing sports and having a physical performed in order to do so. Don’t worry about Americans, focus on yourself.

this is embarrassing.

Cheer up, Hugh. 🥃

dude.

Go Beavers · February 8

smile6680 said:

I think a lot of people are overthinking the issue.

1. Is it a good idea for safety reasons. My opinion is it's a real concern

2. In non contact sports is it fair to biological females and or trans people. This can be debated.

There’s a lot of high school girls in wrestling who compete against boys. So maybe more thinking on the issue is a good thing.

Go Beavers · February 8

A doc won’t find a peen on a trans woman who’s had lower surgery. We’re going to need to think some more.

battle1 · February 8

Go Beavers said:

A doc won’t find a peen on a trans woman who’s had lower surgery. We’re going to need to think some more.

We are discussing youth sports, correct? Are minors actually allowed to cut their shit off?

For adults there are plenty of simple ways for vetting. We just have to get over the political correctness bullshit and stop worrying about making everyone happy and comfortable. Thats life.

Go Beavers · February 8

battle1 said:

Go Beavers said:

A doc won’t find a peen on a trans woman who’s had lower surgery. We’re going to need to think some more.

We are discussing youth sports, correct? Are minors actually allowed to cut their shit off?

It floats around. Trump’s EO included women. House republicans made reference to birth certificates, which creates issues for intersexed kids and many states don’t require sex to be indicated on the bc.

Spunkie · February 8

mickeyrat said:

smile6680 said:

Spunkie said:

mickeyrat said:

Spunkie said:

Vitalogensia said:

OP, what do you mean by "interacted with"? I'm assuming that means something like a forward and goalie running into each other while going for a header or something similar.

so if I understand this , there was no physical contact between the two then?

could you share more details of the play in question, please? relative distances of your daughter to the goal, to the goalie, goalie from the mouth of the goal. relative size of each player.

did your daughter use good technique in this header? under the circumstances of this type of play.

as described thus far, it does sound as if this could have happened regardless of who the goalie might have been.

My son plays U13 travel soccer. The play is way more physical and the ball is kicked with a lot more force than in the girls U13 league.

Many girls would get hurt if the boys team played the girls team. Technique wouldn't make a difference.

The only time I feel comfortable with girls and boys playing together in soccer is in a rec league at a young age.

and the play was a goalie punched the ball back from an admitted poor technique header.

Close mickey...

HughFreakingDillon · February 8

Tim Simmons said:

battle1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

battle1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

battle1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

yep, being forced to show your junk to a gym teacher never caused any problems. ever.

Where I’m from it was a school doctor. Not a gym teacher. I cant speak for canada. Also, students had the option to go to their primary care physician to have the physical if they were uncomfortable doing it at school. I fail to see what the harm in this is. There is zero harm in a doctor making sure boys aren’t playing with girls.

so you showed your junk to a school doctor? how about the painfully obvious? bring your birth certificate when registering for a sport. or do americans still not believe birth certificates?

Sorry youre mad at me, Hugh for playing sports and having a physical performed in order to do so. Don’t worry about Americans, focus on yourself.

this is embarrassing.

Cheer up, Hugh. 🥃

dude.

😂 quite something isn’t it? I know it’s overused, but if it’s apt, it’s apt:

when people show you who they are, believe them.

battle1 · February 8

Ok, then don’t cheer up. Stay grumpy.

Gern Blansten · February 8

battle1 said:

OnWis97 said:

battle1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

yep, being forced to show your junk to a gym teacher never caused any problems. ever.

Where I’m from it was a school doctor. Not a gym teacher. I cant speak for canada. Also, students had the option to go to their primary care physician to have the physical if they were uncomfortable doing it at school. I fail to see what the harm in this is. There is zero harm in a doctor making sure boys aren’t playing with girls.

You had a school doctor confirm your sex?

You had a school doctor examine you to clear you to play sports. That entailed dropping your pants and having your balls checked. So indirectly, if you want to frame it that way, yes.

That wasn't to confirm your sex though. That was just a physical which included a hernia exam

battle1 · February 8

Gern Blansten said:

battle1 said:

OnWis97 said:

battle1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

yep, being forced to show your junk to a gym teacher never caused any problems. ever.

Where I’m from it was a school doctor. Not a gym teacher. I cant speak for canada. Also, students had the option to go to their primary care physician to have the physical if they were uncomfortable doing it at school. I fail to see what the harm in this is. There is zero harm in a doctor making sure boys aren’t playing with girls.

You had a school doctor confirm your sex?

You had a school doctor examine you to clear you to play sports. That entailed dropping your pants and having your balls checked. So indirectly, if you want to frame it that way, yes.

That wasn't to confirm your sex though. That was just a physical which included a hernia exam

That has already been discussed yesterday. You didn’t read the discussion, Gern.

Gern Blansten · February 8

cincybearcat said:

Gern Blansten said:

Depends on the sport..swimming obviously is not a contact sport. You can argue that volleyball isn't either...but it's still not fair.

If you identify as X then play sports with X. If Y then Y, Z then Z, etc.

Identify doesn’t mean shit for athletic competition.

sure it does...there's even an executive order over it

DE4173 · February 8

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https://youtu.be/pF7vAmOvtVQ?si=7SmA0rieg44UTOBp

smile6680 · February 8

Go Beavers said:

smile6680 said:

I think a lot of people are overthinking the issue.

1. Is it a good idea for safety reasons. My opinion is it's a real concern

2. In non contact sports is it fair to biological females and or trans people. This can be debated.

There’s a lot of high school girls in wrestling who compete against boys. So maybe more thinking on the issue is a good thing.

Wrestling is an interesting contact support. It's controlled contact and by weight.

We had a female champion last year for one of our state weight class. It was good to see.

I think the discussion is whether (biological) boys should be competing in female sports. I don't think most people have an issue with girls/parents choosing to sign up to compete against boys if they have the ability.

Go Beavers · February 9

smile6680 said:

Go Beavers said:

smile6680 said:

I think a lot of people are overthinking the issue.

1. Is it a good idea for safety reasons. My opinion is it's a real concern

2. In non contact sports is it fair to biological females and or trans people. This can be debated.

There’s a lot of high school girls in wrestling who compete against boys. So maybe more thinking on the issue is a good thing.

Wrestling is an interesting contact support. It's controlled contact and by weight.

We had a female champion last year for one of our state weight class. It was good to see.

I think the discussion is whether (biological) boys should be competing in female sports. I don't think most people have an issue with girls/parents choosing to sign up to compete against boys if they have the ability.

That’s the discussion, which also includes adults. Point being it can be a pretty complicated situation due to the fact that both gender and sex isn’t always a black and white situation. You now have trans men, in theory based on the EO, who have the strength of a male athlete being told they have to compete against women.

tempo_n_groove · February 11

smile6680 said:

Go Beavers said:

smile6680 said:

I think a lot of people are overthinking the issue.

1. Is it a good idea for safety reasons. My opinion is it's a real concern

2. In non contact sports is it fair to biological females and or trans people. This can be debated.

There’s a lot of high school girls in wrestling who compete against boys. So maybe more thinking on the issue is a good thing.

Wrestling is an interesting contact support. It's controlled contact and by weight.

We had a female champion last year for one of our state weight class. It was good to see.

I think the discussion is whether (biological) boys should be competing in female sports. I don't think most people have an issue with girls/parents choosing to sign up to compete against boys if they have the ability.

She won 2 years in a row. That is impressive going up against boys her age and weight.

DE4173 · March 4

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