Keeping Men out of Women's Sports

Gern Blansten

Go Beavers said:

mace1229 said:

Go Beavers said:

Why is the government in a better position to manage it than the agency/association that controls the sport? We also know the legislation written by republicans is poorly done. 

Because society has always needed guidelines to follow. Why did the government have to make it illegal to smoke on a an airplane before people stopped?
Those is charge of youth sports aren't usually specialists in child development or doctors making these decisions. 

Transgendered women have been playing against other women for decades, so it only became this massive thing when republicans decided to make it a culture war issue and found another group to demonize and scapegoat. Also, republican politicians aren’t doctors or child development specialists. They can’t even decide how to define a biological female. 

I don't disagree with that but I also don't think many people were aware that was happening.

I certainly wasn't aware.

And again...I have no problem with people existing how they want but I don't think it's fair to have biological men in women's sports and vice versa.

HughFreakingDillon

Gern Blansten said:

Go Beavers said:

mace1229 said:

Go Beavers said:

Why is the government in a better position to manage it than the agency/association that controls the sport? We also know the legislation written by republicans is poorly done. 

Because society has always needed guidelines to follow. Why did the government have to make it illegal to smoke on a an airplane before people stopped?
Those is charge of youth sports aren't usually specialists in child development or doctors making these decisions. 

Transgendered women have been playing against other women for decades, so it only became this massive thing when republicans decided to make it a culture war issue and found another group to demonize and scapegoat. Also, republican politicians aren’t doctors or child development specialists. They can’t even decide how to define a biological female. 

I don't disagree with that but I also don't think many people were aware that was happening.

I certainly wasn't aware.

And again...I have no problem with people existing how they want but I don't think it's fair to have biological men in women's sports and vice versa.

I know everyone hates the devils advocate ir a slippery slope argument, but here goes: 

I may have mentioned this earlier in the thread, I’m not sure, but what is then done about bio females that are double the size of the other players? Even bigger and stronger than the boys? Do you ban them as well? 

As gobeavers pointed out, we’ve all simply been baited into discussing these largely non-issue problems by culture war republicans. It should be case by case, at the micro level. Not legislated. 

I do, however, feel terrible for any child that gets injured. 

Merkin Baller

HughFreakingDillon said:

Gern Blansten said:

Go Beavers said:

mace1229 said:

Go Beavers said:

Why is the government in a better position to manage it than the agency/association that controls the sport? We also know the legislation written by republicans is poorly done. 

Because society has always needed guidelines to follow. Why did the government have to make it illegal to smoke on a an airplane before people stopped?
Those is charge of youth sports aren't usually specialists in child development or doctors making these decisions. 

Transgendered women have been playing against other women for decades, so it only became this massive thing when republicans decided to make it a culture war issue and found another group to demonize and scapegoat. Also, republican politicians aren’t doctors or child development specialists. They can’t even decide how to define a biological female. 

I don't disagree with that but I also don't think many people were aware that was happening.

I certainly wasn't aware.

And again...I have no problem with people existing how they want but I don't think it's fair to have biological men in women's sports and vice versa.

I know everyone hates the devils advocate ir a slippery slope argument, but here goes: 

I may have mentioned this earlier in the thread, I’m not sure, but what is then done about bio females that are double the size of the other players? Even bigger and stronger than the boys? Do you ban them as well? 

As gobeavers pointed out, we’ve all simply been baited into discussing these largely non-issue problems by culture war republicans. It should be case by case, at the micro level. Not legislated. 

I do, however, feel terrible for any child that gets injured. 

Agreed. 

mace1229

Go Beavers said:

mace1229 said:

Go Beavers said:

Why is the government in a better position to manage it than the agency/association that controls the sport? We also know the legislation written by republicans is poorly done. 

Because society has always needed guidelines to follow. Why did the government have to make it illegal to smoke on a an airplane before people stopped?
Those is charge of youth sports aren't usually specialists in child development or doctors making these decisions. 

Transgendered women have been playing against other women for decades, so it only became this massive thing when republicans decided to make it a culture war issue and found another group to demonize and scapegoat. Also, republican politicians aren’t doctors or child development specialists. They can’t even decide how to define a biological female. 

People were enslaved for centuries. Doesn't mean it was the right thing to do. The past is not an argument for what is right in the present. 
True, they aren't. But without them making laws, there's biological males in female sports. And common sense states that creates an unfair advantage, and in some cases, safety risks. You wouldn't put a 16 year old up against 10 year olds in little league baseball for the exact same reason.
You wouldn't think it has to be said, but it does. And maybe its happened before, but people are more aware of it now and it seems that more biological females are are losing and leading to more publicity. 
I just googled "how many males won in female sports"  I havant had time to read every incident mentioned, but the few names I've googled seem to be a real story. 

578+ Male* Victories in Female Sports: A Nine-Month Tally

https://womenssportspolicy.org/253-male-victories-in-female-sports/

Gern Blansten

Great idea for Newsom to have Kirk on his podcast. Definitely the way to go with the younger conservatives.

DE4173

Yes! On my to-do list to listen.

Go Beavers

mace1229 said:

Go Beavers said:

mace1229 said:

Go Beavers said:

Why is the government in a better position to manage it than the agency/association that controls the sport? We also know the legislation written by republicans is poorly done. 

Because society has always needed guidelines to follow. Why did the government have to make it illegal to smoke on a an airplane before people stopped?
Those is charge of youth sports aren't usually specialists in child development or doctors making these decisions. 

Transgendered women have been playing against other women for decades, so it only became this massive thing when republicans decided to make it a culture war issue and found another group to demonize and scapegoat. Also, republican politicians aren’t doctors or child development specialists. They can’t even decide how to define a biological female. 

People were enslaved for centuries. Doesn't mean it was the right thing to do. The past is not an argument for what is right in the present. 
True, they aren't. But without them making laws, there's biological males in female sports. And common sense states that creates an unfair advantage, and in some cases, safety risks. You wouldn't put a 16 year old up against 10 year olds in little league baseball for the exact same reason.
You wouldn't think it has to be said, but it does. And maybe its happened before, but people are more aware of it now and it seems that more biological females are are losing and leading to more publicity. 
I just googled "how many males won in female sports"  I havant had time to read every incident mentioned, but the few names I've googled seem to be a real story. 

578+ Male* Victories in Female Sports: A Nine-Month Tally

https://womenssportspolicy.org/253-male-victories-in-female-sports/

Poor comparison, but my historical reference had to do with republicans making this an issue back around 2015 and not a right vs wrong thing. My personal observation is that I’m seeing more references to calling transgendered women, men. This is unfortunate because the goal of republicans is to legislate them out of existence, despite the fact that they’ve always existed.