Keeping Men out of Women's Sports

HughFreakingDillon · February 5

There’s nothing lucky about trump for Americans

Spunkie · February 5

The women and girls, like my girl, who play sports who aren't going to get concussions from bigger muscled men/boys are lucky, Hugh!

HughFreakingDillon · February 5

I think the focus should be more on weight classes. A large female can also inflict that same damage. I agree with the concern, just not the solution.

Spunkie · February 5

I'd be happy if Canada did any protection for women who play against larger genetic males for a minimum at least...

But that may put overweight children in different age groups and sometimes the kids just want to play with kids their own age for fairness.

So you're saying an overweight 14-year-old couldn't play with her peers and is not allowed to play up so she can't play at all

mickeyrat · February 5

Spunkie said:

The women and girls, like my girl, who play sports who aren't going to get concussions from bigger muscled men/boys are lucky, Hugh!

yet many other freedoms are being taken away or severely restricted.

personally believe body autonomy outweighs sports. but thats me.

HughFreakingDillon · February 5

Me too. My youngest plays many sports, and she’s usually the smallest. She’s been tossed around by females much bigger than she. Of course we’re always on the edge of our seat with worry.

OnWis97 · February 5

Hopefully if Canada gets this they won't have to give up as much as the US did.

Also, transvestigation is about to become an industry here. Larry Nasser's now even more upset to be in prison.

Tim Simmons · February 5

Spunkie said:

With Trump's new order, being signed today, on women's sports day called "keeping men out of women's sports", you Americans are so lucky that children born as males don't get to play in female sports! -speaking as a mother whose child received a concussion from a genetic born male in girls soccer.

I mean, I'd rather them tackle a bigger problem facing kids, but sure.

OnWis97 · February 5

As we revert back to traditional gender roles, we may just eliminate girls/womens sports altogether.

Tim Simmons · February 5

They are well on their way to becoming second class citizens.

DE4173 · February 5

OnWis97 said:

As we revert back to traditional gender roles, we may just eliminate girls/womens sports altogether.

Protests in the streets

Go Beavers · February 5

Spunkie said:

The women and girls, like my girl, who play sports who aren't going to get concussions from bigger muscled men/boys are lucky, Hugh!

Poorly written, over-reaching legislation isn’t the way to go. Since the fervor is largely based on appearance and who “looks like” a man or a woman, expect to see “tomboy” girls get harassed and abused as a result of this.

SPEEDY MCCREADY · February 5

Spunkie said:

With Trump's new order, being signed today, on women's sports day called "keeping men out of women's sports", you Americans are so lucky that children born as males don't get to play in female sports! -speaking as a mother whose child received a concussion from a genetic born male in girls soccer.

Hello Spunkie!
Just wanted to say hi.

Spunkie · February 5

Hi Mr super bowl hope you guys have a good party!
You are all so funny except for the harassment part... Sticks n stones....

smile6680 · February 7

Spunkie said:

mickeyrat said:

Spunkie said:

Vitalogensia said:

OP, what do you mean by "interacted with"? I'm assuming that means something like a forward and goalie running into each other while going for a header or something similar.

I'm just getting to your question now as I was quite busy yesterday and didn't have a chance to thoughtfully read all these posts. My 12 year old striker daughter got a rebound header goal after her first shot was struck back at her by the U14 genetic male goalie during the BC provincial playoffs.

so if I understand this , there was no physical contact between the two then?

could you share more details of the play in question, please? relative distances of your daughter to the goal, to the goalie, goalie from the mouth of the goal. relative size of each player.

did your daughter use good technique in this header? under the circumstances of this type of play.

as described thus far, it does sound as if this could have happened regardless of who the goalie might have been.

I believe the force which the genetic male exerted upon the ball that caused blind spots, headache, and concussion is greater than that of a female player.

It wasn't a good planned technique header, like her first two this season. The genetic male goalie defended her stike which smacked her face/head and rebounded in.

My son plays U13 travel soccer. The play is way more physical and the ball is kicked with a lot more force than in the girls U13 league.

Many girls would get hurt if the boys team played the girls team. Technique wouldn't make a difference.

The only time I feel comfortable with girls and boys playing together in soccer is in a rec league at a young age.

mickeyrat · February 7

smile6680 said:

Spunkie said:

mickeyrat said:

Spunkie said:

Vitalogensia said:

OP, what do you mean by "interacted with"? I'm assuming that means something like a forward and goalie running into each other while going for a header or something similar.

I'm just getting to your question now as I was quite busy yesterday and didn't have a chance to thoughtfully read all these posts. My 12 year old striker daughter got a rebound header goal after her first shot was struck back at her by the U14 genetic male goalie during the BC provincial playoffs.

so if I understand this , there was no physical contact between the two then?

could you share more details of the play in question, please? relative distances of your daughter to the goal, to the goalie, goalie from the mouth of the goal. relative size of each player.

did your daughter use good technique in this header? under the circumstances of this type of play.

as described thus far, it does sound as if this could have happened regardless of who the goalie might have been.

I believe the force which the genetic male exerted upon the ball that caused blind spots, headache, and concussion is greater than that of a female player.

It wasn't a good planned technique header, like her first two this season. The genetic male goalie defended her stike which smacked her face/head and rebounded in.

My son plays U13 travel soccer. The play is way more physical and the ball is kicked with a lot more force than in the girls U13 league.

Many girls would get hurt if the boys team played the girls team. Technique wouldn't make a difference.

The only time I feel comfortable with girls and boys playing together in soccer is in a rec league at a young age.

and the play was a goalie punched the ball back from an admitted poor technique header.

smile6680 · February 7

mickeyrat said:

smile6680 said:

Spunkie said:

mickeyrat said:

Spunkie said:

Vitalogensia said:

OP, what do you mean by "interacted with"? I'm assuming that means something like a forward and goalie running into each other while going for a header or something similar.

I'm just getting to your question now as I was quite busy yesterday and didn't have a chance to thoughtfully read all these posts. My 12 year old striker daughter got a rebound header goal after her first shot was struck back at her by the U14 genetic male goalie during the BC provincial playoffs.

so if I understand this , there was no physical contact between the two then?

could you share more details of the play in question, please? relative distances of your daughter to the goal, to the goalie, goalie from the mouth of the goal. relative size of each player.

did your daughter use good technique in this header? under the circumstances of this type of play.

as described thus far, it does sound as if this could have happened regardless of who the goalie might have been.

I believe the force which the genetic male exerted upon the ball that caused blind spots, headache, and concussion is greater than that of a female player.

It wasn't a good planned technique header, like her first two this season. The genetic male goalie defended her stike which smacked her face/head and rebounded in.

My son plays U13 travel soccer. The play is way more physical and the ball is kicked with a lot more force than in the girls U13 league.

Many girls would get hurt if the boys team played the girls team. Technique wouldn't make a difference.

The only time I feel comfortable with girls and boys playing together in soccer is in a rec league at a young age.

and the play was a goalie punched the ball back from an admitted poor technique header.

I thought the thread evolved into a discussion about whether or not it was a good idea to let males play against females from a safety stand point.

I guess I should have payed closer attention.

Gern Blansten · February 7

I don't disagree that males shouldn't play females. I just think it's stupid to have an executive order about it. Totally unnecessary and hateful.

Tim Simmons · February 7

Agreed. Let the organizations decide.

SVRDhand13 · February 7

Spunkie said:

With Trump's new order, being signed today, on women's sports day called "keeping men out of women's sports", you Americans are so lucky that children born as males don't get to play in female sports! -speaking as a mother whose child received a concussion from a genetic born male in girls soccer.

I, an American, don't feel lucky about anything Trump has done. This was a deliberate measure to hate a small minority and to ignore typical protocols.... something Trump and his cronies are very good at. But don't worry, you'll be an American soon enough (51st state) lol

cincybearcat · February 7

This was always a non-brainer issue for me. There are few issues where I cannot see the other side at all....this is one of them.

OnWis97 · February 7

How's it going to be enforced, now?

A lot of girls and women will be accused of being boys and men.

battle1 · February 7

OnWis97 said:

How's it going to be enforced, now?

A lot of girls and women will be accused of being boys and men.

You should have to take a physical, just like we all did to play sports. Seems pretty straightforward to me.

HughFreakingDillon · February 7

yep, being forced to show your junk to a gym teacher never caused any problems. ever.

battle1 · February 7

HughFreakingDillon said:

yep, being forced to show your junk to a gym teacher never caused any problems. ever.

Where I’m from it was a school doctor. Not a gym teacher. I cant speak for canada. Also, students had the option to go to their primary care physician to have the physical if they were uncomfortable doing it at school. I fail to see what the harm in this is. There is zero harm in a doctor making sure boys aren’t playing with girls.

Gern Blansten · February 7

Depends on the sport..swimming obviously is not a contact sport. You can argue that volleyball isn't either...but it's still not fair.

If you identify as X then play sports with X. If Y then Y, Z then Z, etc.

smile6680 · February 7

I think a lot of people are overthinking the issue.

1. Is it a good idea for safety reasons. My opinion is it's a real concern

2. In non contact sports is it fair to biological females and or trans people. This can be debated.

cincybearcat · February 7

Gern Blansten said:

Depends on the sport..swimming obviously is not a contact sport. You can argue that volleyball isn't either...but it's still not fair.

If you identify as X then play sports with X. If Y then Y, Z then Z, etc.

Identify doesn’t mean shit for athletic competition.

OnWis97 · February 7

battle1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

yep, being forced to show your junk to a gym teacher never caused any problems. ever.

Where I’m from it was a school doctor. Not a gym teacher. I cant speak for canada. Also, students had the option to go to their primary care physician to have the physical if they were uncomfortable doing it at school. I fail to see what the harm in this is. There is zero harm in a doctor making sure boys aren’t playing with girls.

You had a school doctor confirm your sex?

battle1 · February 7

cincybearcat said:

Gern Blansten said:

Depends on the sport..swimming obviously is not a contact sport. You can argue that volleyball isn't either...but it's still not fair.

If you identify as X then play sports with X. If Y then Y, Z then Z, etc.

Identify doesn’t mean shit for athletic competition.

I know, people literally leave me shaking my head with how liberal we’ve become.

Keeping Men out of Women's Sports

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