The Official 2025 Tour Rumor Thread

RatherStarved

I would take any arena or stadium within an 8 hour flight over the Sphere.  

kmcmanus

drfox said:

Lost In Ohio said:

BF25394 said:

Lost In Ohio said:

Weston1283 said:

drfox said:

So quiet on the rumour front….,

I mean, I think we are probably at least 2-3 months away from any rumors

They aren't even hitting the road for 10 weeks or so for the last announced tour

The only other thing we've gotten is a "rumor" for is the Sphere sometime which we know will be at least August at the earliest due to other Sphere shows

So even if there is a small North America leg for the fall or around the Sphere, those rumors probably wont even leak until late spring or early summer

Europe is completely out for 2025 and South America in all likelihood would have been announced by now

We know they've begun writing/recording.

If we go 2020, 2024, 2026 with album release dates, that'd be a frequency not seen since Binaural through Avocado with three albums in six years.

Avocado through Lightning Bolt was three albums (plus a lot of PJ20 and side project stuff) in eight years.

The time period from 2018-2023 really fucked the band (and all of us) over. Here's what it MIGHT MAYBE have looked like:
2018: South America, Europe, Album Release...tour USA?
2019: Tour the 2018 album.
2020: Tour the 2018 album.
2021: Break? Writing/recording?
2022: Tour 2021/2022 album?

Instead, we ended up having 26 tour dates (27 planned) from the beginning of South America 2018 up until Sea Hear Now in 2021.

We basically had 6.5 shows per year...or about one every other month from 2018-2022.

You remember why there were no shows in 2020 and most of 2021, right?

Indeed I do.

I'm saying if the 2018 album was released AND COVID never happened, things would have looked a lot different when it came to album releases and touring plans.

Instead, the reset button was pressed HARD on that album. It obviously didn't happen and 2019 was a year off which turned into 2020 and most of 2021 off.

Some time during 2018, they said "fuck it", axed the 2018 album and whatever they had begun to pre-plan for 2019, if they had anything at all other than a "we gotta be out on tour" mindset.

Go back to Eddie's comments at Fenway 2018 about not planning to do much touring over 2019. Gigaton was NOT delayed. It's probably much more fair to think of the 2018 album as something vastly different. Gigaton was probably written/recorded over the end of 2018 and into 2019. Whatever the hell was planned to be released in 2018...there's gotta be a good collection of lost dogs there.

If you take the shows from 2018 and averaged them out over 2019, 2020 and 2021, it basically turned into the equivalent of one show every other month.

(Yeah, I get a little rambling there with that 2018 stuff only because I like to play the "alternate universe" game at times.)

I don’t think the 2018 album was scrapped? Only some songs like Can’t Deny me? Understand some of the songs recorded in 2017-18 were used for Gigaton 

Mike’s comments in the Gigaton announcement about a “long & difficult process” would strongly imply that it used or repurposed at least some of the 2018 forthcoming album material. I don’t think there’s a finished album scrapped in the can somewhere, I think it evolved into Gigaton 

Shaindli1

RatherStarved said:

I would take any arena or stadium within an 8 hour flight over the Sphere.  

Exactly. I don't want the dog and pony show FFS.

tylermoore

RatherStarved said:

I would take any arena or stadium within an 8 hour flight over the Sphere.  

Same. Would be an easy pass for me…
if I’m going all the way there, I’m going for a band that makes sense to play there. Those graphics are not sphere ready. Unless they look worse because they’ve been condensed on a smaller screen for the tours. Could list 50 bands I’d think make sense for the Sphere over PJ. 

HailHailVitalogy

Sphere talk is so Fall 2024 in this thread

US shows in Spring almost surely mean there’s more to come in the fall. 

setlist41

HailHailVitalogy said:

Sphere talk is so Fall 2024 in this thread

US shows in Spring almost surely mean there’s more to come in the fall. 

I think you're right 🤔

Shaindli1

HailHailVitalogy said:

Sphere talk is so Fall 2024 in this thread

US shows in Spring almost surely mean there’s more to come in the fall. 

From your keyboard to the band's minds! 

D-Rod

kmcmanus said:

drfox said:

Lost In Ohio said:

BF25394 said:

Lost In Ohio said:

Weston1283 said:

drfox said:

So quiet on the rumour front….,

I mean, I think we are probably at least 2-3 months away from any rumors

They aren't even hitting the road for 10 weeks or so for the last announced tour

The only other thing we've gotten is a "rumor" for is the Sphere sometime which we know will be at least August at the earliest due to other Sphere shows

So even if there is a small North America leg for the fall or around the Sphere, those rumors probably wont even leak until late spring or early summer

Europe is completely out for 2025 and South America in all likelihood would have been announced by now

We know they've begun writing/recording.

If we go 2020, 2024, 2026 with album release dates, that'd be a frequency not seen since Binaural through Avocado with three albums in six years.

Avocado through Lightning Bolt was three albums (plus a lot of PJ20 and side project stuff) in eight years.

The time period from 2018-2023 really fucked the band (and all of us) over. Here's what it MIGHT MAYBE have looked like:
2018: South America, Europe, Album Release...tour USA?
2019: Tour the 2018 album.
2020: Tour the 2018 album.
2021: Break? Writing/recording?
2022: Tour 2021/2022 album?

Instead, we ended up having 26 tour dates (27 planned) from the beginning of South America 2018 up until Sea Hear Now in 2021.

We basically had 6.5 shows per year...or about one every other month from 2018-2022.

You remember why there were no shows in 2020 and most of 2021, right?

Indeed I do.

I'm saying if the 2018 album was released AND COVID never happened, things would have looked a lot different when it came to album releases and touring plans.

Instead, the reset button was pressed HARD on that album. It obviously didn't happen and 2019 was a year off which turned into 2020 and most of 2021 off.

Some time during 2018, they said "fuck it", axed the 2018 album and whatever they had begun to pre-plan for 2019, if they had anything at all other than a "we gotta be out on tour" mindset.

Go back to Eddie's comments at Fenway 2018 about not planning to do much touring over 2019. Gigaton was NOT delayed. It's probably much more fair to think of the 2018 album as something vastly different. Gigaton was probably written/recorded over the end of 2018 and into 2019. Whatever the hell was planned to be released in 2018...there's gotta be a good collection of lost dogs there.

If you take the shows from 2018 and averaged them out over 2019, 2020 and 2021, it basically turned into the equivalent of one show every other month.

(Yeah, I get a little rambling there with that 2018 stuff only because I like to play the "alternate universe" game at times.)

I don’t think the 2018 album was scrapped? Only some songs like Can’t Deny me? Understand some of the songs recorded in 2017-18 were used for Gigaton 

Mike’s comments in the Gigaton announcement about a “long & difficult process” would strongly imply that it used or repurposed at least some of the 2018 forthcoming album material. I don’t think there’s a finished album scrapped in the can somewhere, I think it evolved into Gigaton 

Retrograde was part of the 2018 potential album. 

JBob87

Zod said:

The Sphere is amazing.  The visual are amazing and one thing, but it's also the best audio I've ever heard at a live venue.   Rather then using sports complexes and trying to convert them to music venues, this thing is built for music.  Pearl Jam would sound amazing in there.

I do wonder about the economics.  If you want to do visuals it probably costs significant cash to create them for that one of a kind screen.   You probably need to play a solid amount of shows to make the revenue to cover that?  Not sure if 5 covers something like that.

On the flip side, the chompers are out of control due to the number of casual fans / comp tickets.

RatherStarved

tylermoore said:

RatherStarved said:

I would take any arena or stadium within an 8 hour flight over the Sphere.  

Same. Would be an easy pass for me…
if I’m going all the way there, I’m going for a band that makes sense to play there. Those graphics are not sphere ready. Unless they look worse because they’ve been condensed on a smaller screen for the tours. Could list 50 bands I’d think make sense for the Sphere over PJ. 

I would actually prefer to watch a recorded PJ concert at the Sphere, optimized for the screens.  It’s not a great live venue imho.  

Gravey1975

D-Rod said:

kmcmanus said:

drfox said:

Lost In Ohio said:

BF25394 said:

Lost In Ohio said:

Weston1283 said:

drfox said:

So quiet on the rumour front….,

I mean, I think we are probably at least 2-3 months away from any rumors

They aren't even hitting the road for 10 weeks or so for the last announced tour

The only other thing we've gotten is a "rumor" for is the Sphere sometime which we know will be at least August at the earliest due to other Sphere shows

So even if there is a small North America leg for the fall or around the Sphere, those rumors probably wont even leak until late spring or early summer

Europe is completely out for 2025 and South America in all likelihood would have been announced by now

We know they've begun writing/recording.

If we go 2020, 2024, 2026 with album release dates, that'd be a frequency not seen since Binaural through Avocado with three albums in six years.

Avocado through Lightning Bolt was three albums (plus a lot of PJ20 and side project stuff) in eight years.

The time period from 2018-2023 really fucked the band (and all of us) over. Here's what it MIGHT MAYBE have looked like:
2018: South America, Europe, Album Release...tour USA?
2019: Tour the 2018 album.
2020: Tour the 2018 album.
2021: Break? Writing/recording?
2022: Tour 2021/2022 album?

Instead, we ended up having 26 tour dates (27 planned) from the beginning of South America 2018 up until Sea Hear Now in 2021.

We basically had 6.5 shows per year...or about one every other month from 2018-2022.

You remember why there were no shows in 2020 and most of 2021, right?

Indeed I do.

I'm saying if the 2018 album was released AND COVID never happened, things would have looked a lot different when it came to album releases and touring plans.

Instead, the reset button was pressed HARD on that album. It obviously didn't happen and 2019 was a year off which turned into 2020 and most of 2021 off.

Some time during 2018, they said "fuck it", axed the 2018 album and whatever they had begun to pre-plan for 2019, if they had anything at all other than a "we gotta be out on tour" mindset.

Go back to Eddie's comments at Fenway 2018 about not planning to do much touring over 2019. Gigaton was NOT delayed. It's probably much more fair to think of the 2018 album as something vastly different. Gigaton was probably written/recorded over the end of 2018 and into 2019. Whatever the hell was planned to be released in 2018...there's gotta be a good collection of lost dogs there.

If you take the shows from 2018 and averaged them out over 2019, 2020 and 2021, it basically turned into the equivalent of one show every other month.

(Yeah, I get a little rambling there with that 2018 stuff only because I like to play the "alternate universe" game at times.)

I don’t think the 2018 album was scrapped? Only some songs like Can’t Deny me? Understand some of the songs recorded in 2017-18 were used for Gigaton 

Mike’s comments in the Gigaton announcement about a “long & difficult process” would strongly imply that it used or repurposed at least some of the 2018 forthcoming album material. I don’t think there’s a finished album scrapped in the can somewhere, I think it evolved into Gigaton 

Retrograde was part of the 2018 potential album. 

Quick Escape and River Cross are another 2 that were part of the original sessions I believe. As of course was Can't Deny Me. But there was a bunch of other material recorded in those sessions that has never seen the light of day. Some of it reportedly is very very good.

Merkin Baller

Gravey1975 said:

D-Rod said:

kmcmanus said:

drfox said:

Lost In Ohio said:

BF25394 said:

Lost In Ohio said:

Weston1283 said:

drfox said:

So quiet on the rumour front….,

I mean, I think we are probably at least 2-3 months away from any rumors

They aren't even hitting the road for 10 weeks or so for the last announced tour

The only other thing we've gotten is a "rumor" for is the Sphere sometime which we know will be at least August at the earliest due to other Sphere shows

So even if there is a small North America leg for the fall or around the Sphere, those rumors probably wont even leak until late spring or early summer

Europe is completely out for 2025 and South America in all likelihood would have been announced by now

We know they've begun writing/recording.

If we go 2020, 2024, 2026 with album release dates, that'd be a frequency not seen since Binaural through Avocado with three albums in six years.

Avocado through Lightning Bolt was three albums (plus a lot of PJ20 and side project stuff) in eight years.

The time period from 2018-2023 really fucked the band (and all of us) over. Here's what it MIGHT MAYBE have looked like:
2018: South America, Europe, Album Release...tour USA?
2019: Tour the 2018 album.
2020: Tour the 2018 album.
2021: Break? Writing/recording?
2022: Tour 2021/2022 album?

Instead, we ended up having 26 tour dates (27 planned) from the beginning of South America 2018 up until Sea Hear Now in 2021.

We basically had 6.5 shows per year...or about one every other month from 2018-2022.

You remember why there were no shows in 2020 and most of 2021, right?

Indeed I do.

I'm saying if the 2018 album was released AND COVID never happened, things would have looked a lot different when it came to album releases and touring plans.

Instead, the reset button was pressed HARD on that album. It obviously didn't happen and 2019 was a year off which turned into 2020 and most of 2021 off.

Some time during 2018, they said "fuck it", axed the 2018 album and whatever they had begun to pre-plan for 2019, if they had anything at all other than a "we gotta be out on tour" mindset.

Go back to Eddie's comments at Fenway 2018 about not planning to do much touring over 2019. Gigaton was NOT delayed. It's probably much more fair to think of the 2018 album as something vastly different. Gigaton was probably written/recorded over the end of 2018 and into 2019. Whatever the hell was planned to be released in 2018...there's gotta be a good collection of lost dogs there.

If you take the shows from 2018 and averaged them out over 2019, 2020 and 2021, it basically turned into the equivalent of one show every other month.

(Yeah, I get a little rambling there with that 2018 stuff only because I like to play the "alternate universe" game at times.)

I don’t think the 2018 album was scrapped? Only some songs like Can’t Deny me? Understand some of the songs recorded in 2017-18 were used for Gigaton 

Mike’s comments in the Gigaton announcement about a “long & difficult process” would strongly imply that it used or repurposed at least some of the 2018 forthcoming album material. I don’t think there’s a finished album scrapped in the can somewhere, I think it evolved into Gigaton 

Retrograde was part of the 2018 potential album. 

Quick Escape and River Cross are another 2 that were part of the original sessions I believe. As of course was Can't Deny Me. But there was a bunch of other material recorded in those sessions that has never seen the light of day. Some of it reportedly is very very good.

Where's this info from? 

D-Rod

Gravey1975 said:

D-Rod said:

kmcmanus said:

drfox said:

Lost In Ohio said:

BF25394 said:

Lost In Ohio said:

Weston1283 said:

drfox said:

So quiet on the rumour front….,

I mean, I think we are probably at least 2-3 months away from any rumors

They aren't even hitting the road for 10 weeks or so for the last announced tour

The only other thing we've gotten is a "rumor" for is the Sphere sometime which we know will be at least August at the earliest due to other Sphere shows

So even if there is a small North America leg for the fall or around the Sphere, those rumors probably wont even leak until late spring or early summer

Europe is completely out for 2025 and South America in all likelihood would have been announced by now

We know they've begun writing/recording.

If we go 2020, 2024, 2026 with album release dates, that'd be a frequency not seen since Binaural through Avocado with three albums in six years.

Avocado through Lightning Bolt was three albums (plus a lot of PJ20 and side project stuff) in eight years.

The time period from 2018-2023 really fucked the band (and all of us) over. Here's what it MIGHT MAYBE have looked like:
2018: South America, Europe, Album Release...tour USA?
2019: Tour the 2018 album.
2020: Tour the 2018 album.
2021: Break? Writing/recording?
2022: Tour 2021/2022 album?

Instead, we ended up having 26 tour dates (27 planned) from the beginning of South America 2018 up until Sea Hear Now in 2021.

We basically had 6.5 shows per year...or about one every other month from 2018-2022.

You remember why there were no shows in 2020 and most of 2021, right?

Indeed I do.

I'm saying if the 2018 album was released AND COVID never happened, things would have looked a lot different when it came to album releases and touring plans.

Instead, the reset button was pressed HARD on that album. It obviously didn't happen and 2019 was a year off which turned into 2020 and most of 2021 off.

Some time during 2018, they said "fuck it", axed the 2018 album and whatever they had begun to pre-plan for 2019, if they had anything at all other than a "we gotta be out on tour" mindset.

Go back to Eddie's comments at Fenway 2018 about not planning to do much touring over 2019. Gigaton was NOT delayed. It's probably much more fair to think of the 2018 album as something vastly different. Gigaton was probably written/recorded over the end of 2018 and into 2019. Whatever the hell was planned to be released in 2018...there's gotta be a good collection of lost dogs there.

If you take the shows from 2018 and averaged them out over 2019, 2020 and 2021, it basically turned into the equivalent of one show every other month.

(Yeah, I get a little rambling there with that 2018 stuff only because I like to play the "alternate universe" game at times.)

I don’t think the 2018 album was scrapped? Only some songs like Can’t Deny me? Understand some of the songs recorded in 2017-18 were used for Gigaton 

Mike’s comments in the Gigaton announcement about a “long & difficult process” would strongly imply that it used or repurposed at least some of the 2018 forthcoming album material. I don’t think there’s a finished album scrapped in the can somewhere, I think it evolved into Gigaton 

Retrograde was part of the 2018 potential album. 

Quick Escape and River Cross are another 2 that were part of the original sessions I believe. As of course was Can't Deny Me. But there was a bunch of other material recorded in those sessions that has never seen the light of day. Some of it reportedly is very very good.

Get it Back was from that time as well.  

Gravey1975

D-Rod said:

Gravey1975 said:

D-Rod said:

kmcmanus said:

drfox said:

Lost In Ohio said:

BF25394 said:

Lost In Ohio said:

Weston1283 said:

drfox said:

So quiet on the rumour front….,

I mean, I think we are probably at least 2-3 months away from any rumors

They aren't even hitting the road for 10 weeks or so for the last announced tour

The only other thing we've gotten is a "rumor" for is the Sphere sometime which we know will be at least August at the earliest due to other Sphere shows

So even if there is a small North America leg for the fall or around the Sphere, those rumors probably wont even leak until late spring or early summer

Europe is completely out for 2025 and South America in all likelihood would have been announced by now

We know they've begun writing/recording.

If we go 2020, 2024, 2026 with album release dates, that'd be a frequency not seen since Binaural through Avocado with three albums in six years.

Avocado through Lightning Bolt was three albums (plus a lot of PJ20 and side project stuff) in eight years.

The time period from 2018-2023 really fucked the band (and all of us) over. Here's what it MIGHT MAYBE have looked like:
2018: South America, Europe, Album Release...tour USA?
2019: Tour the 2018 album.
2020: Tour the 2018 album.
2021: Break? Writing/recording?
2022: Tour 2021/2022 album?

Instead, we ended up having 26 tour dates (27 planned) from the beginning of South America 2018 up until Sea Hear Now in 2021.

We basically had 6.5 shows per year...or about one every other month from 2018-2022.

You remember why there were no shows in 2020 and most of 2021, right?

Indeed I do.

I'm saying if the 2018 album was released AND COVID never happened, things would have looked a lot different when it came to album releases and touring plans.

Instead, the reset button was pressed HARD on that album. It obviously didn't happen and 2019 was a year off which turned into 2020 and most of 2021 off.

Some time during 2018, they said "fuck it", axed the 2018 album and whatever they had begun to pre-plan for 2019, if they had anything at all other than a "we gotta be out on tour" mindset.

Go back to Eddie's comments at Fenway 2018 about not planning to do much touring over 2019. Gigaton was NOT delayed. It's probably much more fair to think of the 2018 album as something vastly different. Gigaton was probably written/recorded over the end of 2018 and into 2019. Whatever the hell was planned to be released in 2018...there's gotta be a good collection of lost dogs there.

If you take the shows from 2018 and averaged them out over 2019, 2020 and 2021, it basically turned into the equivalent of one show every other month.

(Yeah, I get a little rambling there with that 2018 stuff only because I like to play the "alternate universe" game at times.)

I don’t think the 2018 album was scrapped? Only some songs like Can’t Deny me? Understand some of the songs recorded in 2017-18 were used for Gigaton 

Mike’s comments in the Gigaton announcement about a “long & difficult process” would strongly imply that it used or repurposed at least some of the 2018 forthcoming album material. I don’t think there’s a finished album scrapped in the can somewhere, I think it evolved into Gigaton 

Retrograde was part of the 2018 potential album. 

Quick Escape and River Cross are another 2 that were part of the original sessions I believe. As of course was Can't Deny Me. But there was a bunch of other material recorded in those sessions that has never seen the light of day. Some of it reportedly is very very good.

Get it Back was from that time as well.  

Think that might have been from the gigaton sessions rather than the aborted BoB 2018 project. Could be wrong tho. Damn good song either way!

D-Rod

Gravey1975 said:

D-Rod said:

Gravey1975 said:

D-Rod said:

kmcmanus said:

drfox said:

Lost In Ohio said:

BF25394 said:

Lost In Ohio said:

Weston1283 said:

drfox said:

So quiet on the rumour front….,

I mean, I think we are probably at least 2-3 months away from any rumors

They aren't even hitting the road for 10 weeks or so for the last announced tour

The only other thing we've gotten is a "rumor" for is the Sphere sometime which we know will be at least August at the earliest due to other Sphere shows

So even if there is a small North America leg for the fall or around the Sphere, those rumors probably wont even leak until late spring or early summer

Europe is completely out for 2025 and South America in all likelihood would have been announced by now

We know they've begun writing/recording.

If we go 2020, 2024, 2026 with album release dates, that'd be a frequency not seen since Binaural through Avocado with three albums in six years.

Avocado through Lightning Bolt was three albums (plus a lot of PJ20 and side project stuff) in eight years.

The time period from 2018-2023 really fucked the band (and all of us) over. Here's what it MIGHT MAYBE have looked like:
2018: South America, Europe, Album Release...tour USA?
2019: Tour the 2018 album.
2020: Tour the 2018 album.
2021: Break? Writing/recording?
2022: Tour 2021/2022 album?

Instead, we ended up having 26 tour dates (27 planned) from the beginning of South America 2018 up until Sea Hear Now in 2021.

We basically had 6.5 shows per year...or about one every other month from 2018-2022.

You remember why there were no shows in 2020 and most of 2021, right?

Indeed I do.

I'm saying if the 2018 album was released AND COVID never happened, things would have looked a lot different when it came to album releases and touring plans.

Instead, the reset button was pressed HARD on that album. It obviously didn't happen and 2019 was a year off which turned into 2020 and most of 2021 off.

Some time during 2018, they said "fuck it", axed the 2018 album and whatever they had begun to pre-plan for 2019, if they had anything at all other than a "we gotta be out on tour" mindset.

Go back to Eddie's comments at Fenway 2018 about not planning to do much touring over 2019. Gigaton was NOT delayed. It's probably much more fair to think of the 2018 album as something vastly different. Gigaton was probably written/recorded over the end of 2018 and into 2019. Whatever the hell was planned to be released in 2018...there's gotta be a good collection of lost dogs there.

If you take the shows from 2018 and averaged them out over 2019, 2020 and 2021, it basically turned into the equivalent of one show every other month.

(Yeah, I get a little rambling there with that 2018 stuff only because I like to play the "alternate universe" game at times.)

I don’t think the 2018 album was scrapped? Only some songs like Can’t Deny me? Understand some of the songs recorded in 2017-18 were used for Gigaton 

Mike’s comments in the Gigaton announcement about a “long & difficult process” would strongly imply that it used or repurposed at least some of the 2018 forthcoming album material. I don’t think there’s a finished album scrapped in the can somewhere, I think it evolved into Gigaton 

Retrograde was part of the 2018 potential album. 

Quick Escape and River Cross are another 2 that were part of the original sessions I believe. As of course was Can't Deny Me. But there was a bunch of other material recorded in those sessions that has never seen the light of day. Some of it reportedly is very very good.

Get it Back was from that time as well.  

Think that might have been from the gigaton sessions rather than the aborted BoB 2018 project. Could be wrong tho. Damn good song either way!

Good call, just looked it up and Josh Evan’s has a credit on it. 

ddeschler

Need Lost Dogs 2

Shaindli1

ddeschler said:

Need Lost Dogs 2

Double album!

Get_Right

I would love to see a show at the sphere. If it was somewhere other than Vegas.

PrezIntense

Teamed up with the right artist, a Sphere show would be really cool. Imagine fully immersive evolution video! The guys have never shied away from being at the edge of new technology / experiences for the fans so I think that would be on brand for them and a great show. I don't personally enjoy Vegas and likely wouldn't go.

ddeschler

And since there's no derailing this thread (already derailed), what was the deal with Olé?  I'm sure there's a whole thread somewhere, but if someone could give an abbreviated version I would appreciate it.  That song was always a wtf for me.