The Official 2025 Tour Rumor Thread

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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    So have a merch free tour for Canada    Problem solved.   ;)
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • enddem said:
    JD87070 said:
    Shaindli1 said:
    JD87070 said:
    Shaindli1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    I m not understanding what tariffs and playing in Canada have to do with one another.  
    Anything that crosses the border like merch will be subjected to tariffs.
    That is not how it works. The tariffs are applied to goods being imported to the US by the manufacturers. It would not apply to tour merch coming back over from Canada after a concert. And Canada’s retaliatory tariffs wouldn’t apply either, those are only on some specific product groups.
    Merch coming to Canada from the US!
    See the last sentence of my original post.
    They are, at present, only targeting specific things. And my guess is that Canada, Mexico, and the rest of the world will target companies controlled by Trump-aligned oligarchs, much as the US and EU have employed targeted sanctions against Russia and other countries in the past. That being said, the unpredictability that Trump has (quite needlessly and pointlessly imho) introduced into the global economy means there's no guarantee that merch won't be subject to high import duties by the time a hypothetical Canadian tour might commence. The wise business decision here, as it is now in many sectors, is to sit on your hands.
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  • enddem
    enddem Posts: 184
    mcgruff10 said:
    So have a merch free tour for Canada    Problem solved.   ;)
    🙏
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,520
    What would Andy Dufresne have to say about a trade war
  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,321
    pjl44 said:
    What would Andy Dufresne have to say about a trade war
    The count of Monte Crisco…
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  • KJ228171
    KJ228171 Posts: 465
    edited February 2
    JD87070 said:
    Shaindli1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    I m not understanding what tariffs and playing in Canada have to do with one another.  
    Anything that crosses the border like merch will be subjected to tariffs.
    That is not how it works. The tariffs are applied to goods being imported to the US by the manufacturers. It would not apply to tour merch coming back over from Canada after a concert. And Canada’s retaliatory tariffs wouldn’t apply either, those are only on some specific product groups.
    Yeah they would. The product groups are extensive:

    6105.10.00

    Men's or boys' shirts, knitted or crocheted.

    • Of cotton

    6105.20.00

    Men's or boys' shirts, knitted or crocheted.

    • Of man-made fibres

    6105.90.00

    Men's or boys' shirts, knitted or crocheted.

    • Of other textile materials

    6106.10.00

    Women's or girls' blouses, shirts and shirt-blouses, knitted or crocheted.

    • Of cotton

    6106.20.00

    Women's or girls' blouses, shirts and shirt-blouses, knitted or crocheted.

    • Of man-made fibres

    6106.90.00

    Women's or girls' blouses, shirts and shirt-blouses, knitted or crocheted.

    • Of other textile materials
    They could always get them silk screened in Canada to avoid importing them. The biggest hit will be the currency conversion. The looney will be taking a hit which ironically makes Canada goods cheaper thus dulling the effect of the tariffs. Also US goods are hit twice by the tariff and currency making then expensive to Canadians and likely to be substituted. Those idiots all flunked out of econ.
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,196
    mcgruff10 said:
    So have a merch free tour for Canada    Problem solved.   ;)

    A Pearl Jam "Merch Free" 2025 Canadian Tour 


  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    Canada needs a tour like 2005.   Those shows were top notch.   Went to Kitchener, wish I could have went to more that year.   
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,520
    Who will be the Hendrix of 2025 except this time caught with 50 kilos of aluminum 
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,764
    KJ228171 said:
    JD87070 said:
    Shaindli1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    I m not understanding what tariffs and playing in Canada have to do with one another.  
    Anything that crosses the border like merch will be subjected to tariffs.
    That is not how it works. The tariffs are applied to goods being imported to the US by the manufacturers. It would not apply to tour merch coming back over from Canada after a concert. And Canada’s retaliatory tariffs wouldn’t apply either, those are only on some specific product groups.
    Yeah they would. The product groups are extensive:

    6105.10.00

    Men's or boys' shirts, knitted or crocheted.

    • Of cotton

    6105.20.00

    Men's or boys' shirts, knitted or crocheted.

    • Of man-made fibres

    6105.90.00

    Men's or boys' shirts, knitted or crocheted.

    • Of other textile materials

    6106.10.00

    Women's or girls' blouses, shirts and shirt-blouses, knitted or crocheted.

    • Of cotton

    6106.20.00

    Women's or girls' blouses, shirts and shirt-blouses, knitted or crocheted.

    • Of man-made fibres

    6106.90.00

    Women's or girls' blouses, shirts and shirt-blouses, knitted or crocheted.

    • Of other textile materials
    They could always get them silk screened in Canada to avoid importing them. The biggest hit will be the currency conversion. The looney will be taking a hit which ironically makes Canada goods cheaper thus dulling the effect of the tariffs. Also US goods are hit twice by the tariff and currency making then expensive to Canadians and likely to be substituted. Those idiots all flunked out of econ.
    People will still line up all day for the merch.  
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  • yanknuck
    yanknuck Peterborough, ON Posts: 112
    As a American living in Canada, I'm still looking forward to Pittsburgh. But with the tanking Canadian dollar, it'll be damn expensive. With any luck this will blow over by May.  Fingers crossed 
  • ally12
    ally12 Ottawa, ON, CAN Posts: 410
    yanknuck said:
    As a American living in Canada, I'm still looking forward to Pittsburgh. But with the tanking Canadian dollar, it'll be damn expensive. With any luck this will blow over by May.  Fingers crossed 
    At this point, it’s not just about the dollar and the economics. It’s about being united as a country and supporting what we have at home. BC and east coast provinces will most likely see a boom in tourism in the spring/sumner. 

     


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  • Hurls15
    Hurls15 Posts: 228
    ally12 said:
    yanknuck said:
    As a American living in Canada, I'm still looking forward to Pittsburgh. But with the tanking Canadian dollar, it'll be damn expensive. With any luck this will blow over by May.  Fingers crossed 
    At this point, it’s not just about the dollar and the economics. It’s about being united as a country and supporting what we have at home. BC and east coast provinces will most likely see a boom in tourism in the spring/sumner. 

     


    Both from Canadians and from Americans with their dollar going a long way.  
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,108
    Glad I was not around for the tariff conversation or I would have been on here all day. If you look at the tags of your t-shirts, hoodies, etc. Very few are products of the US. I do not know how they get to Canada or what they would do with the leftovers but it most likely would not be an obstacle to dates in Canada. All the gear and instruments likely enter Canada under a temporary bond, payable only if the items fail to return to the US. It might impact posters or other speciality items that are made in the US, but most likely not, shirts, hoodies, pins etc.
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,764
    ally12 said:
    yanknuck said:
    As a American living in Canada, I'm still looking forward to Pittsburgh. But with the tanking Canadian dollar, it'll be damn expensive. With any luck this will blow over by May.  Fingers crossed 
    At this point, it’s not just about the dollar and the economics. It’s about being united as a country and supporting what we have at home. BC and east coast provinces will most likely see a boom in tourism in the spring/sumner. 

     


    Preach! Thinking of booking something in PEI this summer instead of the US east coast.  
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  • MM70435
    MM70435 Posts: 308
    edited February 3
    I love this thread and how the topics bounce all over the place.  It is sort of like a chat room.  Going back a few pages about the no phone policy at certain shows.  How is that even enforced?  Is security all over the place giving people warnings?  Escorting people out?  Are people just aware of the policy and it is not an issue?  Or are you just not allowed to bring in a phone into the venue at all?  With mobile phone only tickets how is that even possible?  
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,520
    MM70435 said:
    I love this thread and how the topics bounce all over the place.  It is sort of like a chat room.  Going back a few pages about the no phone policy at certain shows.  How is that even enforced?  Is security all over the place giving people warnings?  Escorting people out?  Are people just aware of the policy and it is not an issue?  Or are you just not allowed to bring in a phone into the venue at all?  With mobile phone only tickets how is that even possible?  
    I've been to a couple comedy shows where they make you put it in a locked pouch and then unlock it and take the pouch back when you leave. Extremely rare for bands but it's happened.

    It's usually enforcement by ushers. You might get one warning and the second time you get ejected.
  • yanknuck
    yanknuck Peterborough, ON Posts: 112
    ally12 said:
    yanknuck said:
    As a American living in Canada, I'm still looking forward to Pittsburgh. But with the tanking Canadian dollar, it'll be damn expensive. With any luck this will blow over by May.  Fingers crossed 
    At this point, it’s not just about the dollar and the economics. It’s about being united as a country and supporting what we have at home. BC and east coast provinces will most likely see a boom in tourism in the spring/sumner. 

     I definitely understand where you're coming from. We do need to stand up for ourselves and not be backed into a corner. My comment was really aimed at touring costs. With any luck we'll get some Canadian shows  :)



  • JD87070
    JD87070 Grand Blanc, MI Posts: 308
    MM70435 said:
    I love this thread and how the topics bounce all over the place.  It is sort of like a chat room.  Going back a few pages about the no phone policy at certain shows.  How is that even enforced?  Is security all over the place giving people warnings?  Escorting people out?  Are people just aware of the policy and it is not an issue?  Or are you just not allowed to bring in a phone into the venue at all?  With mobile phone only tickets how is that even possible?  
    For Jack White it’s the pouches, for Tool it’s security watching and enforcing. And yes they escort people out. At Tool in Grand Rapids in 2022 the guy next to me took his phone out as Maynard was talking before the last song, knowing that he was about to say you can take your phones out and get your shitty videos now, but security saw it in his hand before Maynard said it and escorted him out.
  • ally12
    ally12 Ottawa, ON, CAN Posts: 410
    yanknuck said:
    ally12 said:
    yanknuck said:
    As a American living in Canada, I'm still looking forward to Pittsburgh. But with the tanking Canadian dollar, it'll be damn expensive. With any luck this will blow over by May.  Fingers crossed 
    At this point, it’s not just about the dollar and the economics. It’s about being united as a country and supporting what we have at home. BC and east coast provinces will most likely see a boom in tourism in the spring/sumner. 

     I definitely understand where you're coming from. We do need to stand up for ourselves and not be backed into a corner. My comment was really aimed at touring costs. With any luck we'll get some Canadian shows  :)



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