Especially when the worlds most famous arena is waiting for them, but they refuse to play enough shows for their most passionate fans. The band can be a real bummer
I don't know what people are talking about. I've been at all six shows, and the crowds have been anything but bored. I'm also a native New Yorker (and Knicks fan) who has seen them eight times at MSG and doesn't understand why people have convinced themselves that it's something automatically magical. It's actually a crowd with a disproportionate number of rich people and celebrities who are there to be seen.
It’s more about how brutal it is getting tickets at the garden and the rest of the east, while reading indifferent comments here and available tickets multiply like bunnies everywhere outside of the northeast
One of the reasons those tickets are hard to get is that a lot of fans have sold themselves on the idea that shows in the northeastern cities are special, which creates extra demand by people who want to travel to them, when the reality is that special shows happen all over the place. Two of the best PJ shows I've ever seen were in Glendale, Arizona, of all places. The No Code show was in Moline, Illinois. There have been great MSG shows and ordinary ones. The worst show I ever saw was at Fenway. So, you never know.
No, those tickets are so hard to get because they stopped playing Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Hartford, DC, Albany and the entire southeast among others about 11 years ago. I’m not going to MSG for the mystique, I’m going because despite requiring a 7 hour train ride MSG is my “local” show.
Especially when the worlds most famous arena is waiting for them, but they refuse to play enough shows for their most passionate fans. The band can be a real bummer
I don't know what people are talking about. I've been at all six shows, and the crowds have been anything but bored. I'm also a native New Yorker (and Knicks fan) who has seen them eight times at MSG and doesn't understand why people have convinced themselves that it's something automatically magical. It's actually a crowd with a disproportionate number of rich people and celebrities who are there to be seen.
It’s more about how brutal it is getting tickets at the garden and the rest of the east, while reading indifferent comments here and available tickets multiply like bunnies everywhere outside of the northeast
One of the reasons those tickets are hard to get is that a lot of fans have sold themselves on the idea that shows in the northeastern cities are special, which creates extra demand by people who want to travel to them, when the reality is that special shows happen all over the place. Two of the best PJ shows I've ever seen were in Glendale, Arizona, of all places. The No Code show was in Moline, Illinois. There have been great MSG shows and ordinary ones. The worst show I ever saw was at Fenway. So, you never know.
No, those tickets are so hard to get because they stopped playing Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Hartford, DC, Albany and the entire southeast among others about 11 years ago. I’m not going to MSG for the mystique, I’m going because despite requiring a 7 hour train ride MSG is my “local” show.
That is also part of it, but it was a thing even when they were playing Hartford, Newark, etc.
Especially when the worlds most famous arena is waiting for them, but they refuse to play enough shows for their most passionate fans. The band can be a real bummer
I don't know what people are talking about. I've been at all six shows, and the crowds have been anything but bored. I'm also a native New Yorker (and Knicks fan) who has seen them eight times at MSG and doesn't understand why people have convinced themselves that it's something automatically magical. It's actually a crowd with a disproportionate number of rich people and celebrities who are there to be seen.
It’s more about how brutal it is getting tickets at the garden and the rest of the east, while reading indifferent comments here and available tickets multiply like bunnies everywhere outside of the northeast
One of the reasons those tickets are hard to get is that a lot of fans have sold themselves on the idea that shows in the northeastern cities are special, which creates extra demand by people who want to travel to them, when the reality is that special shows happen all over the place. Two of the best PJ shows I've ever seen were in Glendale, Arizona, of all places. The No Code show was in Moline, Illinois. There have been great MSG shows and ordinary ones. The worst show I ever saw was at Fenway. So, you never know.
Especially when the worlds most famous arena is waiting for them, but they refuse to play enough shows for their most passionate fans. The band can be a real bummer
I don't know what people are talking about. I've been at all six shows, and the crowds have been anything but bored. I'm also a native New Yorker (and Knicks fan) who has seen them eight times at MSG and doesn't understand why people have convinced themselves that it's something automatically magical. It's actually a crowd with a disproportionate number of rich people and celebrities who are there to be seen.
It’s more about how brutal it is getting tickets at the garden and the rest of the east, while reading indifferent comments here and available tickets multiply like bunnies everywhere outside of the northeast
One of the reasons those tickets are hard to get is that a lot of fans have sold themselves on the idea that shows in the northeastern cities are special, which creates extra demand by people who want to travel to them, when the reality is that special shows happen all over the place. Two of the best PJ shows I've ever seen were in Glendale, Arizona, of all places. The No Code show was in Moline, Illinois. There have been great MSG shows and ordinary ones. The worst show I ever saw was at Fenway. So, you never know.
2018 night 2?
2016 Night 2. It wasn't about the performance. It was about very bad behavior by people in my row that made it very difficult to enjoy the performance. I honestly don't even remember what was/wasn't played.
Especially when the worlds most famous arena is waiting for them, but they refuse to play enough shows for their most passionate fans. The band can be a real bummer
I don't know what people are talking about. I've been at all six shows, and the crowds have been anything but bored. I'm also a native New Yorker (and Knicks fan) who has seen them eight times at MSG and doesn't understand why people have convinced themselves that it's something automatically magical. It's actually a crowd with a disproportionate number of rich people and celebrities who are there to be seen.
It’s more about how brutal it is getting tickets at the garden and the rest of the east, while reading indifferent comments here and available tickets multiply like bunnies everywhere outside of the northeast
One of the reasons those tickets are hard to get is that a lot of fans have sold themselves on the idea that shows in the northeastern cities are special, which creates extra demand by people who want to travel to them, when the reality is that special shows happen all over the place. Two of the best PJ shows I've ever seen were in Glendale, Arizona, of all places. The No Code show was in Moline, Illinois. There have been great MSG shows and ordinary ones. The worst show I ever saw was at Fenway. So, you never know.
2018 night 2?
2016 Night 2. It wasn't about the performance. It was about very bad behavior by people in my row that made it very difficult to enjoy the performance. I honestly don't even remember what was/wasn't played.
I was there. Really good set but a crappy section for me of disinterested casual fans. Not every city can be Philly (or Vegas - that place rocked).
My worst PJ concert experience was JazzFest. I enjoyed the rest of JazzFest and New Orleans, but not so much the Pearl Jam concert in that massive area there.
Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; WF Center 10/21/13; WF Center 10/22/13; Baltimore Arena 10/27/13; WF Center 4/28/16; WF Center 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22; Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
Ed needs to handover the reigns for the encore...they are not even average but, well below! He can make the main-sets but, give me a shot Ed and I promise the fans including first timers will still love it.😎 First thing I promise is we will not hear IWBD OR RITFW FOR THE REST OF THIS TOUR and just like that the encore has improved to average. From there, there are many songs not played or played enough and too many songs that need a tour break! One song comparison for example...Immortality for me is the best song they ever wrote and it gets played 1 out of maybe 5 shows every tour yet, they play DTE almost every fucking night? Why? Everyone knows both songs if you follow this band and if you're a first timer you probably don't know either so it's a moot point. And I'm sorry the next time someone says well a first timer doesn't know this or that song, it's not my problem or the bands! I mean they probably makeup 7-10% of the crowd if even that?! You could do this w/ many songs, I didn't choose Immortality just cause it's my favorite song, it's a damn lot of people's favorite song and it never gets played or absolutely not enough! So it's going into the encore maybe opening or closing w/ it, now the encore has gone from average to good. From there we take it to great, it's not rocket science but, somewhere along the way Ed plays these covers like he owes all his heroes a debt and I love every single artist he covers but, I'm there for a PJ show not a jukebox of Ed's idols. Nobody loves the Who as much as me and I dont want to hear PJ cover them, not anymore! Rant over!!🎸
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ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 1992 SUMMERFEST MILWAUKEE 1995 ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 1998 UNITED CENTER CHICAGO1998 THOMPSON-BOLING ARENA KNOXVILLE 1998 ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 2000 ALLSTATE ARENA ROSEMONT 2000 ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 2003 HERSHEYPARK STADIUM 2003 TOLEDO SPORTS ARENA 2004 AIR CANADA CENTRE TORONTO 2005 UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2006 UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2006 VERIZON CENTER DC 2008 UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2009 NATIONWIDE ARENA COLUMBUS 2010 PJ20 NIGHT 1 Alpine Valley Music Theatre 2011 PJ20 NIGHT 2 Alpine Valley Music Theatre 2011 1ST MARINER ARENA BALTIMORE 2013 IWIRELESS CENTER MOLINE 2014 XCEL ENERGY CENTER ST. PAUL 2014 CHICAGO 1 Wrigley Field 2016 CHICAGO 2 Wrigley Field 2016 CHICAGO 1 Wrigley Field 2018 CHICAGO 2 Wrigley Field 2018 BOSTON 2 Fenway Park 2018 ENTERPRISE CENTER SAINT LOUIS 2022 Eddie Vedder Auditorium Theatre CHICAGO 2008
I imagine he gets a great crowd response from RITFW and IWBD. While you are standing in your aching 58 year old body, when you really could be just sitting, muttering behind clenched teeth that they should play Just a Girl to "really bring the house down".
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
But it is a bit weird how they kept RITFW in such heavy rotation since 1992(?) when you think about it.
Yeah like it's the only one, Even Flow has never left the rotation in 34 years and they've completely ruined it.
ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 1992 SUMMERFEST MILWAUKEE 1995 ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 1998 UNITED CENTER CHICAGO1998 THOMPSON-BOLING ARENA KNOXVILLE 1998 ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 2000 ALLSTATE ARENA ROSEMONT 2000 ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 2003 HERSHEYPARK STADIUM 2003 TOLEDO SPORTS ARENA 2004 AIR CANADA CENTRE TORONTO 2005 UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2006 UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2006 VERIZON CENTER DC 2008 UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2009 NATIONWIDE ARENA COLUMBUS 2010 PJ20 NIGHT 1 Alpine Valley Music Theatre 2011 PJ20 NIGHT 2 Alpine Valley Music Theatre 2011 1ST MARINER ARENA BALTIMORE 2013 IWIRELESS CENTER MOLINE 2014 XCEL ENERGY CENTER ST. PAUL 2014 CHICAGO 1 Wrigley Field 2016 CHICAGO 2 Wrigley Field 2016 CHICAGO 1 Wrigley Field 2018 CHICAGO 2 Wrigley Field 2018 BOSTON 2 Fenway Park 2018 ENTERPRISE CENTER SAINT LOUIS 2022 Eddie Vedder Auditorium Theatre CHICAGO 2008
Especially when the worlds most famous arena is waiting for them, but they refuse to play enough shows for their most passionate fans. The band can be a real bummer
I don't know what people are talking about. I've been at all six shows, and the crowds have been anything but bored. I'm also a native New Yorker (and Knicks fan) who has seen them eight times at MSG and doesn't understand why people have convinced themselves that it's something automatically magical. It's actually a crowd with a disproportionate number of rich people and celebrities who are there to be seen.
It’s more about how brutal it is getting tickets at the garden and the rest of the east, while reading indifferent comments here and available tickets multiply like bunnies everywhere outside of the northeast
One of the reasons those tickets are hard to get is that a lot of fans have sold themselves on the idea that shows in the northeastern cities are special, which creates extra demand by people who want to travel to them, when the reality is that special shows happen all over the place. Two of the best PJ shows I've ever seen were in Glendale, Arizona, of all places. The No Code show was in Moline, Illinois. There have been great MSG shows and ordinary ones. The worst show I ever saw was at Fenway. So, you never know.
2018 night 2?
2016 Night 2. It wasn't about the performance. It was about very bad behavior by people in my row that made it very difficult to enjoy the performance. I honestly don't even remember what was/wasn't played.
Oh wow. That's in my top 5 (maybe top 3) out of 48 shows. Just goes to show you it's a lot about your environment as opposed to the actual show sometimes.
Especially when the worlds most famous arena is waiting for them, but they refuse to play enough shows for their most passionate fans. The band can be a real bummer
I don't know what people are talking about. I've been at all six shows, and the crowds have been anything but bored. I'm also a native New Yorker (and Knicks fan) who has seen them eight times at MSG and doesn't understand why people have convinced themselves that it's something automatically magical. It's actually a crowd with a disproportionate number of rich people and celebrities who are there to be seen.
It’s more about how brutal it is getting tickets at the garden and the rest of the east, while reading indifferent comments here and available tickets multiply like bunnies everywhere outside of the northeast
One of the reasons those tickets are hard to get is that a lot of fans have sold themselves on the idea that shows in the northeastern cities are special, which creates extra demand by people who want to travel to them, when the reality is that special shows happen all over the place. Two of the best PJ shows I've ever seen were in Glendale, Arizona, of all places. The No Code show was in Moline, Illinois. There have been great MSG shows and ordinary ones. The worst show I ever saw was at Fenway. So, you never know.
2018 night 2?
2016 Night 2. It wasn't about the performance. It was about very bad behavior by people in my row that made it very difficult to enjoy the performance. I honestly don't even remember what was/wasn't played.
I was there. Really good set but a crappy section for me of disinterested casual fans. Not every city can be Philly (or Vegas - that place rocked).
My worst PJ concert experience was JazzFest. I enjoyed the rest of JazzFest and New Orleans, but not so much the Pearl Jam concert in that massive area there.
Fenway N2 had the best section I have ever been in (not GA) for a PJ crowd. B94 seemed to have all 10C members from the people I was talking with and they all brought it.
Rockin' is so, so played out. It's cool they brought out Watt & DSD for it last night, but I'm happy it's be deemphasized on this tour to some extent. Imagine In Hiding or I Am Mine in that spot instead.
Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; WF Center 10/21/13; WF Center 10/22/13; Baltimore Arena 10/27/13; WF Center 4/28/16; WF Center 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22; Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
Especially when the worlds most famous arena is waiting for them, but they refuse to play enough shows for their most passionate fans. The band can be a real bummer
I don't know what people are talking about. I've been at all six shows, and the crowds have been anything but bored. I'm also a native New Yorker (and Knicks fan) who has seen them eight times at MSG and doesn't understand why people have convinced themselves that it's something automatically magical. It's actually a crowd with a disproportionate number of rich people and celebrities who are there to be seen.
It’s more about how brutal it is getting tickets at the garden and the rest of the east, while reading indifferent comments here and available tickets multiply like bunnies everywhere outside of the northeast
One of the reasons those tickets are hard to get is that a lot of fans have sold themselves on the idea that shows in the northeastern cities are special, which creates extra demand by people who want to travel to them, when the reality is that special shows happen all over the place. Two of the best PJ shows I've ever seen were in Glendale, Arizona, of all places. The No Code show was in Moline, Illinois. There have been great MSG shows and ordinary ones. The worst show I ever saw was at Fenway. So, you never know.
2018 night 2?
2016 Night 2. It wasn't about the performance. It was about very bad behavior by people in my row that made it very difficult to enjoy the performance. I honestly don't even remember what was/wasn't played.
I was there. Really good set but a crappy section for me of disinterested casual fans. Not every city can be Philly (or Vegas - that place rocked).
My worst PJ concert experience was JazzFest. I enjoyed the rest of JazzFest and New Orleans, but not so much the Pearl Jam concert in that massive area there.
Fenway N2 had the best section I have ever been in (not GA) for a PJ crowd. B94 seemed to have all 10C members from the people I was talking with and they all brought it.
Easily in my top 3 shows I have ever been to.
I'm in the same boat as you. Fenway N2 2016 was incredible - amazing set and I thought the crowd was into it. Ironically enough, I was in the pit for both Vegas shows last week and thought that crowd was very tame but to each his or her own I suppose.
Especially when the worlds most famous arena is waiting for them, but they refuse to play enough shows for their most passionate fans. The band can be a real bummer
I don't know what people are talking about. I've been at all six shows, and the crowds have been anything but bored. I'm also a native New Yorker (and Knicks fan) who has seen them eight times at MSG and doesn't understand why people have convinced themselves that it's something automatically magical. It's actually a crowd with a disproportionate number of rich people and celebrities who are there to be seen.
It’s more about how brutal it is getting tickets at the garden and the rest of the east, while reading indifferent comments here and available tickets multiply like bunnies everywhere outside of the northeast
One of the reasons those tickets are hard to get is that a lot of fans have sold themselves on the idea that shows in the northeastern cities are special, which creates extra demand by people who want to travel to them, when the reality is that special shows happen all over the place. Two of the best PJ shows I've ever seen were in Glendale, Arizona, of all places. The No Code show was in Moline, Illinois. There have been great MSG shows and ordinary ones. The worst show I ever saw was at Fenway. So, you never know.
2018 night 2?
2016 Night 2. It wasn't about the performance. It was about very bad behavior by people in my row that made it very difficult to enjoy the performance. I honestly don't even remember what was/wasn't played.
I was there. Really good set but a crappy section for me of disinterested casual fans. Not every city can be Philly (or Vegas - that place rocked).
My worst PJ concert experience was JazzFest. I enjoyed the rest of JazzFest and New Orleans, but not so much the Pearl Jam concert in that massive area there.
Fenway N2 had the best section I have ever been in (not GA) for a PJ crowd. B94 seemed to have all 10C members from the people I was talking with and they all brought it.
Easily in my top 3 shows I have ever been to.
I'm in the same boat as you. Fenway N2 2016 was incredible - amazing set and I thought the crowd was into it. Ironically enough, I was in the pit for both Vegas shows last week and thought that crowd was very tame but to each his or her own I suppose.
Fenway N2 with the outdoor venue was the second loudest show I have seen next to MSG 2022. I did not see them in the early years or Philly yet though.
LA1 crowd was amazing with high energy levels, with the exception of Something Special because it's the "cool" to dislike that track. LA2 crowd was opposite of. I was in disbelief at how no one was rocking out at all to Waiting For Stevie. I was hoping the crowd was as engaged as night 1, but they were not and were passive. The energy given is the energy that is returned.
LA1 crowd was amazing with high energy levels, with the exception of Something Special because it's the "cool" to dislike that track. LA2 crowd was opposite of. I was in disbelief at how no one was rocking out at all to Waiting For Stevie. I was hoping the crowd was as engaged as night 1, but they were not and were passive. The energy given is the energy that is returned.
I think this is just the nature of the beast with a tour promoting a new album. Lot of 10C members will be jamming out to the new stuff but there are a lot of people who probably havent heard the album at all
Wrigley 7/19/2013 Philadelphia 10/22/2013 Baltimore 10/27/2013 Hampton 4/18/2016 Ft. Worth 9/13/2023 Ft. Worth 9/15/2023
Rockin' is so, so played out. It's cool they brought out Watt & DSD for it last night, but I'm happy it's be deemphasized on this tour to some extent. Imagine In Hiding or I Am Mine in that spot instead.
It's generally not a song I'm especially excited to hear, but last night's version was enervating. It was a party on stage and in the pit.
Especially when the worlds most famous arena is waiting for them, but they refuse to play enough shows for their most passionate fans. The band can be a real bummer
I don't know what people are talking about. I've been at all six shows, and the crowds have been anything but bored. I'm also a native New Yorker (and Knicks fan) who has seen them eight times at MSG and doesn't understand why people have convinced themselves that it's something automatically magical. It's actually a crowd with a disproportionate number of rich people and celebrities who are there to be seen.
It’s more about how brutal it is getting tickets at the garden and the rest of the east, while reading indifferent comments here and available tickets multiply like bunnies everywhere outside of the northeast
One of the reasons those tickets are hard to get is that a lot of fans have sold themselves on the idea that shows in the northeastern cities are special, which creates extra demand by people who want to travel to them, when the reality is that special shows happen all over the place. Two of the best PJ shows I've ever seen were in Glendale, Arizona, of all places. The No Code show was in Moline, Illinois. There have been great MSG shows and ordinary ones. The worst show I ever saw was at Fenway. So, you never know.
2018 night 2?
2016 Night 2. It wasn't about the performance. It was about very bad behavior by people in my row that made it very difficult to enjoy the performance. I honestly don't even remember what was/wasn't played.
Oh wow. That's in my top 5 (maybe top 3) out of 48 shows. Just goes to show you it's a lot about your environment as opposed to the actual show sometimes.
It was a bad show for me because I couldn't get a beer without waiting 10 minutes
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
Rockin' is so, so played out. It's cool they brought out Watt & DSD for it last night, but I'm happy it's be deemphasized on this tour to some extent. Imagine In Hiding or I Am Mine in that spot instead.
It's generally not a song I'm especially excited to hear, but last night's version was enervating. It was a party on stage and in the pit.
I'm done with it too...it's just easy to play and easy to sing and the crowd (except for a few of us) really like it
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
Especially when the worlds most famous arena is waiting for them, but they refuse to play enough shows for their most passionate fans. The band can be a real bummer
I don't know what people are talking about. I've been at all six shows, and the crowds have been anything but bored. I'm also a native New Yorker (and Knicks fan) who has seen them eight times at MSG and doesn't understand why people have convinced themselves that it's something automatically magical. It's actually a crowd with a disproportionate number of rich people and celebrities who are there to be seen.
It’s more about how brutal it is getting tickets at the garden and the rest of the east, while reading indifferent comments here and available tickets multiply like bunnies everywhere outside of the northeast
One of the reasons those tickets are hard to get is that a lot of fans have sold themselves on the idea that shows in the northeastern cities are special, which creates extra demand by people who want to travel to them, when the reality is that special shows happen all over the place. Two of the best PJ shows I've ever seen were in Glendale, Arizona, of all places. The No Code show was in Moline, Illinois. There have been great MSG shows and ordinary ones. The worst show I ever saw was at Fenway. So, you never know.
2018 night 2?
2016 Night 2. It wasn't about the performance. It was about very bad behavior by people in my row that made it very difficult to enjoy the performance. I honestly don't even remember what was/wasn't played.
I was there. Really good set but a crappy section for me of disinterested casual fans. Not every city can be Philly (or Vegas - that place rocked).
My worst PJ concert experience was JazzFest. I enjoyed the rest of JazzFest and New Orleans, but not so much the Pearl Jam concert in that massive area there.
My problem that night wasn't that fans were disinterested near me. I don't really care about other fans being disinterested (as long as that doesn't lead them to chat audibly over the songs or something like that). No, these people were being actively obnoxious in a way that made it very hard to concentrate and kept taking my head out of the show. Some people in my row had allowed four of their friends to crash into the row, and one of them was standing in front of me-- like in my actual space. (Remember, there were seats for those shows, not standing-room GA.) When I told him he needed to move, he said he would stand wherever he wanted and there was nothing I could do about it. I told him that, if you're going to stay here, you're going to stand in front of your friends, not me. He ignored me. Eventually, I had to physically move him, which involved a bit of a tussle. This was all happening while the show was going on, and then even once I had relocated him, he was still just a few feet away and even more obnoxious. In hindsight, I should have gone to security and tried to get them removed, but it seemed at the time like that would be more disruptive and you can never be sure whether security will do anything.
Anyway, highly specific circumstances to be sure. And it was my birthday to boot. Night 1 was great, though.
Especially when the worlds most famous arena is waiting for them, but they refuse to play enough shows for their most passionate fans. The band can be a real bummer
I don't know what people are talking about. I've been at all six shows, and the crowds have been anything but bored. I'm also a native New Yorker (and Knicks fan) who has seen them eight times at MSG and doesn't understand why people have convinced themselves that it's something automatically magical. It's actually a crowd with a disproportionate number of rich people and celebrities who are there to be seen.
It’s more about how brutal it is getting tickets at the garden and the rest of the east, while reading indifferent comments here and available tickets multiply like bunnies everywhere outside of the northeast
One of the reasons those tickets are hard to get is that a lot of fans have sold themselves on the idea that shows in the northeastern cities are special, which creates extra demand by people who want to travel to them, when the reality is that special shows happen all over the place. Two of the best PJ shows I've ever seen were in Glendale, Arizona, of all places. The No Code show was in Moline, Illinois. There have been great MSG shows and ordinary ones. The worst show I ever saw was at Fenway. So, you never know.
2018 night 2?
2016 Night 2. It wasn't about the performance. It was about very bad behavior by people in my row that made it very difficult to enjoy the performance. I honestly don't even remember what was/wasn't played.
I was there. Really good set but a crappy section for me of disinterested casual fans. Not every city can be Philly (or Vegas - that place rocked).
My worst PJ concert experience was JazzFest. I enjoyed the rest of JazzFest and New Orleans, but not so much the Pearl Jam concert in that massive area there.
My problem that night wasn't that fans were disinterested near me. I don't really care about other fans being disinterested (as long as that doesn't lead them to chat audibly over the songs or something like that). No, these people were being actively obnoxious in a way that made it very hard to concentrate and kept taking my head out of the show. Some people in my row had allowed four of their friends to crash into the row, and one of them was standing in front of me-- like in my actual space. (Remember, there were seats for those shows, not standing-room GA.) When I told him he needed to move, he said he would stand wherever he wanted and there was nothing I could do about it. I told him that, if you're going to stay here, you're going to stand in front of your friends, not me. He ignored me. Eventually, I had to physically move him, which involved a bit of a tussle. This was all happening while the show was going on, and then even once I had relocated him, he was still just a few feet away and even more obnoxious. In hindsight, I should have gone to security and tried to get them removed, but it seemed at the time like that would be more disruptive and you can never be sure whether security will do anything.
Anyway, highly specific circumstances to be sure. And it was my birthday to boot. Night 1 was great, though.
I hate that shit...we saw the RCHP in Chicago several years ago and had front row floor seats in a section about half way back on the field. Some douchebag and his two girlfriends decided to just park right in front of us like they had seats. I got security on them a few times since they were pretty close. There was kind of a walkway in front of us between the sections that security kept clearing people out of so they just tried to blend in with us.
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
Especially when the worlds most famous arena is waiting for them, but they refuse to play enough shows for their most passionate fans. The band can be a real bummer
I don't know what people are talking about. I've been at all six shows, and the crowds have been anything but bored. I'm also a native New Yorker (and Knicks fan) who has seen them eight times at MSG and doesn't understand why people have convinced themselves that it's something automatically magical. It's actually a crowd with a disproportionate number of rich people and celebrities who are there to be seen.
It’s more about how brutal it is getting tickets at the garden and the rest of the east, while reading indifferent comments here and available tickets multiply like bunnies everywhere outside of the northeast
One of the reasons those tickets are hard to get is that a lot of fans have sold themselves on the idea that shows in the northeastern cities are special, which creates extra demand by people who want to travel to them, when the reality is that special shows happen all over the place. Two of the best PJ shows I've ever seen were in Glendale, Arizona, of all places. The No Code show was in Moline, Illinois. There have been great MSG shows and ordinary ones. The worst show I ever saw was at Fenway. So, you never know.
2018 night 2?
2016 Night 2. It wasn't about the performance. It was about very bad behavior by people in my row that made it very difficult to enjoy the performance. I honestly don't even remember what was/wasn't played.
I was there. Really good set but a crappy section for me of disinterested casual fans. Not every city can be Philly (or Vegas - that place rocked).
My worst PJ concert experience was JazzFest. I enjoyed the rest of JazzFest and New Orleans, but not so much the Pearl Jam concert in that massive area there.
This x100. I grew up in the Philly area and got used to attending shows there. I thought it was the norm for the crowds to be energetic and excited, and the artists always fed off of our energy in the best ways possible. I first learned that other cities weren't like when I went to Cancun for our Senior Week party, and many US cities were there. The DJ was doing roll call to get the crowd to make noise for your city. LA, Miami, NY, Philly, etc... I remember us from Philly were so happy and energetic when they called on us, eventually the DJ said "Is Philly the only city that came here?" I thought that maybe the people from the other cities on that trip were shy, or maybe in less numbers.
Fast forward to today, and it does seem like a regional thing, where people just have a lower energy in general. I saw Pearl Jam in Philly and it fucking rocked. It was great. Fans were great. Band felt our energy and gave it back to us. I was really happy with the LA N1 crowd, that energy reminded me of Philly energy. Then LA N2 a much calmer crowd. A disappointment for me because I miss have the arena energy at peak levels because the band feels that. I will never get being calm at an event with one of your favorite bands performing. Some of the floor people next to me looked miserable.
Here's my "official complaint." I was supposed to be at LA1 and 2. Flight booked, tickets in hand, hotel reserved. Gawd damn adulting had other plans and I had to cancel all of it. Thanks for reading.
Both of the LA shows were fantastic, but we only got 10 out of 11 Dark Matter tracks. I think that the 2 show cities should get all 11 Dark Matter tracks spread across both nights. Somethings Got to Give here. I really wanted (needed) to see Got to Give performed live. That song is good for my soul. My next chance to see Got to Give will be Ohana fest. Hopefully we get the legendary I Got Id / Got To Give combo.
I imagine he gets a great crowd response from RITFW and IWBD. While you are standing in your aching 58 year old body, when you really could be just sitting, muttering behind clenched teeth that they should play Just a Girl to "really bring the house down".
Oddly enough, my “+1” loved hearing those two songs!
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My worst PJ concert experience was JazzFest. I enjoyed the rest of JazzFest and New Orleans, but not so much the Pearl Jam concert in that massive area there.
Baltimore Arena 10/27/13; WF Center 4/28/16; WF Center 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18;
Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22; Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
SUMMERFEST MILWAUKEE 1995
ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 1998
UNITED CENTER CHICAGO1998
THOMPSON-BOLING ARENA KNOXVILLE 1998
ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 2000
ALLSTATE ARENA ROSEMONT 2000
ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 2003
HERSHEYPARK STADIUM 2003
TOLEDO SPORTS ARENA 2004
AIR CANADA CENTRE TORONTO 2005
UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2006
UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2006
VERIZON CENTER DC 2008
UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2009
NATIONWIDE ARENA COLUMBUS 2010
PJ20 NIGHT 1 Alpine Valley Music Theatre 2011
PJ20 NIGHT 2 Alpine Valley Music Theatre 2011
1ST MARINER ARENA BALTIMORE 2013
IWIRELESS CENTER MOLINE 2014
XCEL ENERGY CENTER ST. PAUL 2014
CHICAGO 1 Wrigley Field 2016
CHICAGO 2 Wrigley Field 2016
CHICAGO 1 Wrigley Field 2018
CHICAGO 2 Wrigley Field 2018
BOSTON 2 Fenway Park 2018
ENTERPRISE CENTER SAINT LOUIS 2022
Eddie Vedder Auditorium Theatre CHICAGO 2008
SUMMERFEST MILWAUKEE 1995
ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 1998
UNITED CENTER CHICAGO1998
THOMPSON-BOLING ARENA KNOXVILLE 1998
ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 2000
ALLSTATE ARENA ROSEMONT 2000
ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 2003
HERSHEYPARK STADIUM 2003
TOLEDO SPORTS ARENA 2004
AIR CANADA CENTRE TORONTO 2005
UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2006
UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2006
VERIZON CENTER DC 2008
UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2009
NATIONWIDE ARENA COLUMBUS 2010
PJ20 NIGHT 1 Alpine Valley Music Theatre 2011
PJ20 NIGHT 2 Alpine Valley Music Theatre 2011
1ST MARINER ARENA BALTIMORE 2013
IWIRELESS CENTER MOLINE 2014
XCEL ENERGY CENTER ST. PAUL 2014
CHICAGO 1 Wrigley Field 2016
CHICAGO 2 Wrigley Field 2016
CHICAGO 1 Wrigley Field 2018
CHICAGO 2 Wrigley Field 2018
BOSTON 2 Fenway Park 2018
ENTERPRISE CENTER SAINT LOUIS 2022
Eddie Vedder Auditorium Theatre CHICAGO 2008
Easily in my top 3 shows I have ever been to.
Baltimore Arena 10/27/13; WF Center 4/28/16; WF Center 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18;
Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22; Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
Philadelphia 10/22/2013
Baltimore 10/27/2013
Hampton 4/18/2016
Ft. Worth 9/13/2023
Ft. Worth 9/15/2023
astoria 06
albany 06
hartford 06
reading 06
barcelona 06
paris 06
wembley 07
dusseldorf 07
nijmegen 07
this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
LA2 crowd was opposite of. I was in disbelief at how no one was rocking out at all to Waiting For Stevie. I was hoping the crowd was as engaged as night 1, but they were not and were passive. The energy given is the energy that is returned.
Philadelphia 10/22/2013
Baltimore 10/27/2013
Hampton 4/18/2016
Ft. Worth 9/13/2023
Ft. Worth 9/15/2023
Philadelphia 10/22/2013
Baltimore 10/27/2013
Hampton 4/18/2016
Ft. Worth 9/13/2023
Ft. Worth 9/15/2023
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
Anyway, highly specific circumstances to be sure. And it was my birthday to boot. Night 1 was great, though.
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
Fast forward to today, and it does seem like a regional thing, where people just have a lower energy in general. I saw Pearl Jam in Philly and it fucking rocked. It was great. Fans were great. Band felt our energy and gave it back to us. I was really happy with the LA N1 crowd, that energy reminded me of Philly energy. Then LA N2 a much calmer crowd. A disappointment for me because I miss have the arena energy at peak levels because the band feels that. I will never get being calm at an event with one of your favorite bands performing. Some of the floor people next to me looked miserable.