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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,356
    When was the last time Pearl Jam did a 10+ min jammed out version of Half Full or Nothing as it Seems?

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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,766
    :lol:
    I cannot stand how even the Complainers Thread has people arguing. 
    😉

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    RS72927RS72927 HENDERSON, NV Posts: 9
    I've been enjoying the sarcasm on this thread, until I woke up this morning to horrible news which I would now like to complain about. Vancouver and Portland get awesome jerseys, Sacramento got a cool banner, VEGAS GETS F-ING DICE AND PLAYING CARDS??!!??!! It’s Vegas - every one of the thousands of gift shops and convenience stores sell dice and cards, there is no shortage!! What are you going to sell in NYC, Statue of Liberty tchotchkes??!!??!! There’s not enough of those around the city!!

    Seriously, VGK are defending Stanley Cup champs. Aces are defending two-in-a-row WNBA champs. The Raiders are present (sorry Raider Nation, not my team just because you moved to town). And you chose dice and cards?? SMH!!!!!!!
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    schaefferlaxschaefferlax Posts: 193
    BF25394 said:
    BF25394 said:
    I fucking despise Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish. Horrible. 
    Going to the Taylor Swift concert on sunday. Will be lovely. 
    Have fun!  To each their own. 
    I think their music and personalities suck. 
    Taylor Swift is one of the most genuinely nice people you could ever meet, but whatever.
    Based on what exactly? Greedy, pollutes the planet with her completely unnecessary private jet use, and makes terrible corporate music. What a gem!
    "Terrible corporate music": I don't really know what to say to this. It's just so off-base.

    Anyway, I say this based on how she treats people. I have seen her when there are no cameras, and she is unfailingly nice and generous. I have seen her meet with young fans and you would think she was more excited to meet the fans than they were to meet her. I am close friends with someone who grew up around her and her family, and have heard only about how consistently kind and thoughtful she is, and about many acts of thoughtfulness and generosity that she engages in without publicity.

    If you think that the fact that Taylor Swift, one of the most famous people in the world, with massive security concerns, refrains from flying commercial makes her not a nice person, well, again, I don't really know how to respond to that.
    To your last point, it's not about flying private. It's about taking a 10 minute private jet flight that could be substituted for a 30 minute car ride. And her music sucks, period.
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    Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 10,706
    RS72927 said:
    I've been enjoying the sarcasm on this thread, until I woke up this morning to horrible news which I would now like to complain about. Vancouver and Portland get awesome jerseys, Sacramento got a cool banner, VEGAS GETS F-ING DICE AND PLAYING CARDS??!!??!! It’s Vegas - every one of the thousands of gift shops and convenience stores sell dice and cards, there is no shortage!! What are you going to sell in NYC, Statue of Liberty tchotchkes??!!??!! There’s not enough of those around the city!!

    Seriously, VGK are defending Stanley Cup champs. Aces are defending two-in-a-row WNBA champs. The Raiders are present (sorry Raider Nation, not my team just because you moved to town). And you chose dice and cards?? SMH!!!!!!!
    Haha yeah that shirt is not worth waiting for. 
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,315
    edited May 16
    BF25394 said:
    BF25394 said:
    I fucking despise Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish. Horrible. 
    Going to the Taylor Swift concert on sunday. Will be lovely. 
    Have fun!  To each their own. 
    I think their music and personalities suck. 
    Taylor Swift is one of the most genuinely nice people you could ever meet, but whatever.
    Based on what exactly? Greedy, pollutes the planet with her completely unnecessary private jet use, and makes terrible corporate music. What a gem!
    "Terrible corporate music": I don't really know what to say to this. It's just so off-base.

    Anyway, I say this based on how she treats people. I have seen her when there are no cameras, and she is unfailingly nice and generous. I have seen her meet with young fans and you would think she was more excited to meet the fans than they were to meet her. I am close friends with someone who grew up around her and her family, and have heard only about how consistently kind and thoughtful she is, and about many acts of thoughtfulness and generosity that she engages in without publicity.

    If you think that the fact that Taylor Swift, one of the most famous people in the world, with massive security concerns, refrains from flying commercial makes her not a nice person, well, again, I don't really know how to respond to that.
    To your last point, it's not about flying private. It's about taking a 10 minute private jet flight that could be substituted for a 30 minute car ride. And her music sucks, period.
    Now we need Snopes to fact check this bullshit. She didn't take a 10 minute (13 actually) flight. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    crookedcrosscrookedcross Right Near Da Beach, Boiii Posts: 1,473
    I have a complaint about these stupid flat billed snap back hats for kids..... I'm 48 what kind of dick would I look wondering around like a 14 year old . 10c stop selling rubbish hats. Just the normal cap is fine for people our age.  Thank you... Rob 
    Hot water or a steamer, a cup, and some rubber bands.  Pretty easy really. 
    No it's not. The peak is too wide for that. It works with a cap but these wide flat ones not at all
    I see what you're saying. 
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    HaijayHaijay Posts: 338
    BF25394 said:
    BF25394 said:
    I fucking despise Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish. Horrible. 
    Going to the Taylor Swift concert on sunday. Will be lovely. 
    Have fun!  To each their own. 
    I think their music and personalities suck. 
    Taylor Swift is one of the most genuinely nice people you could ever meet, but whatever.
    Based on what exactly? Greedy, pollutes the planet with her completely unnecessary private jet use, and makes terrible corporate music. What a gem!
    "Terrible corporate music": I don't really know what to say to this. It's just so off-base.

    Anyway, I say this based on how she treats people. I have seen her when there are no cameras, and she is unfailingly nice and generous. I have seen her meet with young fans and you would think she was more excited to meet the fans than they were to meet her. I am close friends with someone who grew up around her and her family, and have heard only about how consistently kind and thoughtful she is, and about many acts of thoughtfulness and generosity that she engages in without publicity.

    If you think that the fact that Taylor Swift, one of the most famous people in the world, with massive security concerns, refrains from flying commercial makes her not a nice person, well, again, I don't really know how to respond to that.
    To your last point, it's not about flying private. It's about taking a 10 minute private jet flight that could be substituted for a 30 minute car ride. And her music sucks, period.
    You can’t win against this guy, he knows EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING, and lets us know multiple times a day on here🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

    And yes, her music is crap, complete commercial shite💩💩💩💩


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    pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,271
    Haijay said:
    BF25394 said:
    BF25394 said:
    I fucking despise Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish. Horrible. 
    Going to the Taylor Swift concert on sunday. Will be lovely. 
    Have fun!  To each their own. 
    I think their music and personalities suck. 
    Taylor Swift is one of the most genuinely nice people you could ever meet, but whatever.
    Based on what exactly? Greedy, pollutes the planet with her completely unnecessary private jet use, and makes terrible corporate music. What a gem!
    "Terrible corporate music": I don't really know what to say to this. It's just so off-base.

    Anyway, I say this based on how she treats people. I have seen her when there are no cameras, and she is unfailingly nice and generous. I have seen her meet with young fans and you would think she was more excited to meet the fans than they were to meet her. I am close friends with someone who grew up around her and her family, and have heard only about how consistently kind and thoughtful she is, and about many acts of thoughtfulness and generosity that she engages in without publicity.

    If you think that the fact that Taylor Swift, one of the most famous people in the world, with massive security concerns, refrains from flying commercial makes her not a nice person, well, again, I don't really know how to respond to that.
    To your last point, it's not about flying private. It's about taking a 10 minute private jet flight that could be substituted for a 30 minute car ride. And her music sucks, period.
    You can’t win against this guy, he knows EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING, and lets us know multiple times a day on here🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

    And yes, her music is crap, complete commercial shite💩💩💩💩


    What’s wrong with commercial music?  Never got this attitude.  Yea sometimes I want just pure pop music to feel good too.  Music doesn’t have to be and shouldn’t be just about one genre. 

    And she may be commercial and pop but she does it better than anyone has since the 80s of Madonna and whacko Michael Jackson,  she’s probably the biggest star in the world.  
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    Attaway77Attaway77 Posts: 2,900
    edited May 17

    What’s wrong with commercial music?  Never got this attitude.  Yea sometimes I want just pure pop music to feel good too.  Music doesn’t have to be and shouldn’t be just about one genre. 

    And she may be commercial and pop but she does it better than anyone has since the 80s of Madonna and whacko Michael Jackson,  she’s probably the biggest star in the world.  
    Simple as that, well said.
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    mpedonempedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,896
    pjhawks said:
    Haijay said:
    BF25394 said:
    BF25394 said:
    I fucking despise Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish. Horrible. 
    Going to the Taylor Swift concert on sunday. Will be lovely. 
    Have fun!  To each their own. 
    I think their music and personalities suck. 
    Taylor Swift is one of the most genuinely nice people you could ever meet, but whatever.
    Based on what exactly? Greedy, pollutes the planet with her completely unnecessary private jet use, and makes terrible corporate music. What a gem!
    "Terrible corporate music": I don't really know what to say to this. It's just so off-base.

    Anyway, I say this based on how she treats people. I have seen her when there are no cameras, and she is unfailingly nice and generous. I have seen her meet with young fans and you would think she was more excited to meet the fans than they were to meet her. I am close friends with someone who grew up around her and her family, and have heard only about how consistently kind and thoughtful she is, and about many acts of thoughtfulness and generosity that she engages in without publicity.

    If you think that the fact that Taylor Swift, one of the most famous people in the world, with massive security concerns, refrains from flying commercial makes her not a nice person, well, again, I don't really know how to respond to that.
    To your last point, it's not about flying private. It's about taking a 10 minute private jet flight that could be substituted for a 30 minute car ride. And her music sucks, period.
    You can’t win against this guy, he knows EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING, and lets us know multiple times a day on here🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

    And yes, her music is crap, complete commercial shite💩💩💩💩


    What’s wrong with commercial music?  Never got this attitude.  Yea sometimes I want just pure pop music to feel good too.  Music doesn’t have to be and shouldn’t be just about one genre. 

    And she may be commercial and pop but she does it better than anyone has since the 80s of Madonna and whacko Michael Jackson,  she’s probably the biggest star in the world.  
    I've heard she stays out to late, and has nothing in her brain. At least, that's what people say. :i_dunno:
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    schaefferlaxschaefferlax Posts: 193
    pjhawks said:
    Haijay said:
    BF25394 said:
    BF25394 said:
    I fucking despise Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish. Horrible. 
    Going to the Taylor Swift concert on sunday. Will be lovely. 
    Have fun!  To each their own. 
    I think their music and personalities suck. 
    Taylor Swift is one of the most genuinely nice people you could ever meet, but whatever.
    Based on what exactly? Greedy, pollutes the planet with her completely unnecessary private jet use, and makes terrible corporate music. What a gem!
    "Terrible corporate music": I don't really know what to say to this. It's just so off-base.

    Anyway, I say this based on how she treats people. I have seen her when there are no cameras, and she is unfailingly nice and generous. I have seen her meet with young fans and you would think she was more excited to meet the fans than they were to meet her. I am close friends with someone who grew up around her and her family, and have heard only about how consistently kind and thoughtful she is, and about many acts of thoughtfulness and generosity that she engages in without publicity.

    If you think that the fact that Taylor Swift, one of the most famous people in the world, with massive security concerns, refrains from flying commercial makes her not a nice person, well, again, I don't really know how to respond to that.
    To your last point, it's not about flying private. It's about taking a 10 minute private jet flight that could be substituted for a 30 minute car ride. And her music sucks, period.
    You can’t win against this guy, he knows EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING, and lets us know multiple times a day on here🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

    And yes, her music is crap, complete commercial shite💩💩💩💩


    What’s wrong with commercial music?  Never got this attitude.  Yea sometimes I want just pure pop music to feel good too.  Music doesn’t have to be and shouldn’t be just about one genre. 

    And she may be commercial and pop but she does it better than anyone has since the 80s of Madonna and whacko Michael Jackson,  she’s probably the biggest star in the world.  
    Being a star doe not mean the music is quality. She owes her success to marketing.
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    YourDirtisMyfoodYourDirtisMyfood Boston Posts: 4,532
    That scarf that Taylor gave Jake better be a one of a kind Gucci to make all that fuss about.
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    mpedonempedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,896
    pjhawks said:
    Haijay said:
    BF25394 said:
    BF25394 said:
    I fucking despise Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish. Horrible. 
    Going to the Taylor Swift concert on sunday. Will be lovely. 
    Have fun!  To each their own. 
    I think their music and personalities suck. 
    Taylor Swift is one of the most genuinely nice people you could ever meet, but whatever.
    Based on what exactly? Greedy, pollutes the planet with her completely unnecessary private jet use, and makes terrible corporate music. What a gem!
    "Terrible corporate music": I don't really know what to say to this. It's just so off-base.

    Anyway, I say this based on how she treats people. I have seen her when there are no cameras, and she is unfailingly nice and generous. I have seen her meet with young fans and you would think she was more excited to meet the fans than they were to meet her. I am close friends with someone who grew up around her and her family, and have heard only about how consistently kind and thoughtful she is, and about many acts of thoughtfulness and generosity that she engages in without publicity.

    If you think that the fact that Taylor Swift, one of the most famous people in the world, with massive security concerns, refrains from flying commercial makes her not a nice person, well, again, I don't really know how to respond to that.
    To your last point, it's not about flying private. It's about taking a 10 minute private jet flight that could be substituted for a 30 minute car ride. And her music sucks, period.
    You can’t win against this guy, he knows EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING, and lets us know multiple times a day on here🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

    And yes, her music is crap, complete commercial shite💩💩💩💩


    What’s wrong with commercial music?  Never got this attitude.  Yea sometimes I want just pure pop music to feel good too.  Music doesn’t have to be and shouldn’t be just about one genre. 

    And she may be commercial and pop but she does it better than anyone has since the 80s of Madonna and whacko Michael Jackson,  she’s probably the biggest star in the world.  
    Being a star doe not mean the music is quality. She owes her success to marketing.
    There's only so much marketing can do for a crap product. Sure, sales might be inflated because she release 18 different versions of an album, but packed arenas and zillions of fans don't come from marketing.

    Maybe she puts narcotics in her songs?
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,315
    pjhawks said:
    Haijay said:
    BF25394 said:
    BF25394 said:
    I fucking despise Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish. Horrible. 
    Going to the Taylor Swift concert on sunday. Will be lovely. 
    Have fun!  To each their own. 
    I think their music and personalities suck. 
    Taylor Swift is one of the most genuinely nice people you could ever meet, but whatever.
    Based on what exactly? Greedy, pollutes the planet with her completely unnecessary private jet use, and makes terrible corporate music. What a gem!
    "Terrible corporate music": I don't really know what to say to this. It's just so off-base.

    Anyway, I say this based on how she treats people. I have seen her when there are no cameras, and she is unfailingly nice and generous. I have seen her meet with young fans and you would think she was more excited to meet the fans than they were to meet her. I am close friends with someone who grew up around her and her family, and have heard only about how consistently kind and thoughtful she is, and about many acts of thoughtfulness and generosity that she engages in without publicity.

    If you think that the fact that Taylor Swift, one of the most famous people in the world, with massive security concerns, refrains from flying commercial makes her not a nice person, well, again, I don't really know how to respond to that.
    To your last point, it's not about flying private. It's about taking a 10 minute private jet flight that could be substituted for a 30 minute car ride. And her music sucks, period.
    You can’t win against this guy, he knows EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING, and lets us know multiple times a day on here🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

    And yes, her music is crap, complete commercial shite💩💩💩💩


    What’s wrong with commercial music?  Never got this attitude.  Yea sometimes I want just pure pop music to feel good too.  Music doesn’t have to be and shouldn’t be just about one genre. 

    And she may be commercial and pop but she does it better than anyone has since the 80s of Madonna and whacko Michael Jackson,  she’s probably the biggest star in the world.  
    Being a star doe not mean the music is quality. She owes her success to marketing.
    This is just weird. It's a combination of both. Not everything she releases is great, but she does release some great songs and she's accessible and engaging with her fans. Not everyone wants to be '95 Pearl Jam and try to avoid fame.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    BF25394BF25394 Posts: 3,775
    pjhawks said:
    Haijay said:
    BF25394 said:
    BF25394 said:
    I fucking despise Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish. Horrible. 
    Going to the Taylor Swift concert on sunday. Will be lovely. 
    Have fun!  To each their own. 
    I think their music and personalities suck. 
    Taylor Swift is one of the most genuinely nice people you could ever meet, but whatever.
    Based on what exactly? Greedy, pollutes the planet with her completely unnecessary private jet use, and makes terrible corporate music. What a gem!
    "Terrible corporate music": I don't really know what to say to this. It's just so off-base.

    Anyway, I say this based on how she treats people. I have seen her when there are no cameras, and she is unfailingly nice and generous. I have seen her meet with young fans and you would think she was more excited to meet the fans than they were to meet her. I am close friends with someone who grew up around her and her family, and have heard only about how consistently kind and thoughtful she is, and about many acts of thoughtfulness and generosity that she engages in without publicity.

    If you think that the fact that Taylor Swift, one of the most famous people in the world, with massive security concerns, refrains from flying commercial makes her not a nice person, well, again, I don't really know how to respond to that.
    To your last point, it's not about flying private. It's about taking a 10 minute private jet flight that could be substituted for a 30 minute car ride. And her music sucks, period.
    You can’t win against this guy, he knows EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING, and lets us know multiple times a day on here🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

    And yes, her music is crap, complete commercial shite💩💩💩💩


    What’s wrong with commercial music?  Never got this attitude.  Yea sometimes I want just pure pop music to feel good too.  Music doesn’t have to be and shouldn’t be just about one genre. 

    And she may be commercial and pop but she does it better than anyone has since the 80s of Madonna and whacko Michael Jackson,  she’s probably the biggest star in the world.  
    Being a star doe not mean the music is quality. She owes her success to marketing.
    You don't like her music. We get it. Taste is subjective. But her critical acclaim and massive commercial success suggest that your opinion is not widely shared. Marketing does not write phenomenal songs, let alone a prolific number of them over nearly two decades. 
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
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    MikeDigsMikeDigs Santa Monica, CA Posts: 497
    In the pop music genre, there are actually a few song writers that are specialists in their ability to write smash hits.  Music producers too.  Many artists use the same writers / producers, but some artists just have the "it" factor I guess, which is the over arching talent and ability to help them rise above their peers.  Then the marketing is just rocket fuel at that point.
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    schaefferlaxschaefferlax Posts: 193
    BF25394 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Haijay said:
    BF25394 said:
    BF25394 said:
    I fucking despise Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish. Horrible. 
    Going to the Taylor Swift concert on sunday. Will be lovely. 
    Have fun!  To each their own. 
    I think their music and personalities suck. 
    Taylor Swift is one of the most genuinely nice people you could ever meet, but whatever.
    Based on what exactly? Greedy, pollutes the planet with her completely unnecessary private jet use, and makes terrible corporate music. What a gem!
    "Terrible corporate music": I don't really know what to say to this. It's just so off-base.

    Anyway, I say this based on how she treats people. I have seen her when there are no cameras, and she is unfailingly nice and generous. I have seen her meet with young fans and you would think she was more excited to meet the fans than they were to meet her. I am close friends with someone who grew up around her and her family, and have heard only about how consistently kind and thoughtful she is, and about many acts of thoughtfulness and generosity that she engages in without publicity.

    If you think that the fact that Taylor Swift, one of the most famous people in the world, with massive security concerns, refrains from flying commercial makes her not a nice person, well, again, I don't really know how to respond to that.
    To your last point, it's not about flying private. It's about taking a 10 minute private jet flight that could be substituted for a 30 minute car ride. And her music sucks, period.
    You can’t win against this guy, he knows EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING, and lets us know multiple times a day on here🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

    And yes, her music is crap, complete commercial shite💩💩💩💩


    What’s wrong with commercial music?  Never got this attitude.  Yea sometimes I want just pure pop music to feel good too.  Music doesn’t have to be and shouldn’t be just about one genre. 

    And she may be commercial and pop but she does it better than anyone has since the 80s of Madonna and whacko Michael Jackson,  she’s probably the biggest star in the world.  
    Being a star doe not mean the music is quality. She owes her success to marketing.
    You don't like her music. We get it. Taste is subjective. But her critical acclaim and massive commercial success suggest that your opinion is not widely shared. Marketing does not write phenomenal songs, let alone a prolific number of them over nearly two decades. 
    "Phenomenal songs" give me a break lmao
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    schaefferlaxschaefferlax Posts: 193
    “Touch me while your bros play Grand Theft Auto”

    legendary songwriter 
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,315
    “Touch me while your bros play Grand Theft Auto”

    legendary songwriter 
    "What you gonna say, but Ole`"
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    Went to Sacramento and Vegas 1 got the setlist I wanted. Wah!
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    schaefferlaxschaefferlax Posts: 193
    tbergs said:
    “Touch me while your bros play Grand Theft Auto”

    legendary songwriter 
    "What you gonna say, but Ole`"
    PJ has bad songs. Taylor has never written a PJ caliber song. 
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    kmcmanuskmcmanus Posts: 673
    it’s very strange how many people in this thread claim to not want to hear about Taylor Swift and yet will not shut up about Taylor Swift. 
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    September is too far away 
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    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
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    northerndragonnortherndragon somewhere, nowhere, anywhere Posts: 9,836
    kmcmanus said:
    it’s very strange how many people in this thread claim to not want to hear about Taylor Swift and yet will not shut up about Taylor Swift. 
    This, so hard. 

    Pretty soon we need to change the title to the T***** S**** Discussion Thread. :rofl:

    Back to the regularly scheduled programming....

    I want to go to Dublin/Chicago/Ohana......and I also can't make myself pull the trigger on any of them. 
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    You never really had to begin with.


    Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
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    BF25394BF25394 Posts: 3,775
    That scarf that Taylor gave Jake better be a one of a kind Gucci to make all that fuss about.
    The scarf is a metaphor.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
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    BF25394BF25394 Posts: 3,775
    BF25394 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Haijay said:
    BF25394 said:
    BF25394 said:
    I fucking despise Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish. Horrible. 
    Going to the Taylor Swift concert on sunday. Will be lovely. 
    Have fun!  To each their own. 
    I think their music and personalities suck. 
    Taylor Swift is one of the most genuinely nice people you could ever meet, but whatever.
    Based on what exactly? Greedy, pollutes the planet with her completely unnecessary private jet use, and makes terrible corporate music. What a gem!
    "Terrible corporate music": I don't really know what to say to this. It's just so off-base.

    Anyway, I say this based on how she treats people. I have seen her when there are no cameras, and she is unfailingly nice and generous. I have seen her meet with young fans and you would think she was more excited to meet the fans than they were to meet her. I am close friends with someone who grew up around her and her family, and have heard only about how consistently kind and thoughtful she is, and about many acts of thoughtfulness and generosity that she engages in without publicity.

    If you think that the fact that Taylor Swift, one of the most famous people in the world, with massive security concerns, refrains from flying commercial makes her not a nice person, well, again, I don't really know how to respond to that.
    To your last point, it's not about flying private. It's about taking a 10 minute private jet flight that could be substituted for a 30 minute car ride. And her music sucks, period.
    You can’t win against this guy, he knows EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING, and lets us know multiple times a day on here🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

    And yes, her music is crap, complete commercial shite💩💩💩💩


    What’s wrong with commercial music?  Never got this attitude.  Yea sometimes I want just pure pop music to feel good too.  Music doesn’t have to be and shouldn’t be just about one genre. 

    And she may be commercial and pop but she does it better than anyone has since the 80s of Madonna and whacko Michael Jackson,  she’s probably the biggest star in the world.  
    Being a star doe not mean the music is quality. She owes her success to marketing.
    You don't like her music. We get it. Taste is subjective. But her critical acclaim and massive commercial success suggest that your opinion is not widely shared. Marketing does not write phenomenal songs, let alone a prolific number of them over nearly two decades. 
    "Phenomenal songs" give me a break lmao
    "All Too Well," "August," "Invisible String," "Anti-Hero"-- I could go on and on and on. Again, taste is subjective, but dismissing Taylor Swift's ability as a songwriter is basically admitting either to being ignorant about songwriting or ignorant about her body of work. Quoting a line from a virtual B-side is not proving what you think it proves. I could quote you some pretty cringeworthy Eddie Vedder lyrics; it doesn't mean he's not a great songwriter.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
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    schaefferlaxschaefferlax Posts: 193
    BF25394 said:
    BF25394 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Haijay said:
    BF25394 said:
    BF25394 said:
    I fucking despise Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish. Horrible. 
    Going to the Taylor Swift concert on sunday. Will be lovely. 
    Have fun!  To each their own. 
    I think their music and personalities suck. 
    Taylor Swift is one of the most genuinely nice people you could ever meet, but whatever.
    Based on what exactly? Greedy, pollutes the planet with her completely unnecessary private jet use, and makes terrible corporate music. What a gem!
    "Terrible corporate music": I don't really know what to say to this. It's just so off-base.

    Anyway, I say this based on how she treats people. I have seen her when there are no cameras, and she is unfailingly nice and generous. I have seen her meet with young fans and you would think she was more excited to meet the fans than they were to meet her. I am close friends with someone who grew up around her and her family, and have heard only about how consistently kind and thoughtful she is, and about many acts of thoughtfulness and generosity that she engages in without publicity.

    If you think that the fact that Taylor Swift, one of the most famous people in the world, with massive security concerns, refrains from flying commercial makes her not a nice person, well, again, I don't really know how to respond to that.
    To your last point, it's not about flying private. It's about taking a 10 minute private jet flight that could be substituted for a 30 minute car ride. And her music sucks, period.
    You can’t win against this guy, he knows EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING, and lets us know multiple times a day on here🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

    And yes, her music is crap, complete commercial shite💩💩💩💩


    What’s wrong with commercial music?  Never got this attitude.  Yea sometimes I want just pure pop music to feel good too.  Music doesn’t have to be and shouldn’t be just about one genre. 

    And she may be commercial and pop but she does it better than anyone has since the 80s of Madonna and whacko Michael Jackson,  she’s probably the biggest star in the world.  
    Being a star doe not mean the music is quality. She owes her success to marketing.
    You don't like her music. We get it. Taste is subjective. But her critical acclaim and massive commercial success suggest that your opinion is not widely shared. Marketing does not write phenomenal songs, let alone a prolific number of them over nearly two decades. 
    "Phenomenal songs" give me a break lmao
    "All Too Well," "August," "Invisible String," "Anti-Hero"-- I could go on and on and on. Again, taste is subjective, but dismissing Taylor Swift's ability as a songwriter is basically admitting either to being ignorant about songwriting or ignorant about her body of work. Quoting a line from a virtual B-side is not proving what you think it proves. I could quote you some pretty cringeworthy Eddie Vedder lyrics; it doesn't mean he's not a great songwriter.
    Trash, trash, trash, and more trash. In my opinion.
    Wrigley 7/19/2013
    Philadelphia 10/22/2013
    Baltimore 10/27/2013
    Hampton 4/18/2016
    Ft. Worth 9/13/2023
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    PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,013
    BF25394 said:
    BF25394 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Haijay said:
    BF25394 said:
    BF25394 said:
    I fucking despise Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish. Horrible. 
    Going to the Taylor Swift concert on sunday. Will be lovely. 
    Have fun!  To each their own. 
    I think their music and personalities suck. 
    Taylor Swift is one of the most genuinely nice people you could ever meet, but whatever.
    Based on what exactly? Greedy, pollutes the planet with her completely unnecessary private jet use, and makes terrible corporate music. What a gem!
    "Terrible corporate music": I don't really know what to say to this. It's just so off-base.

    Anyway, I say this based on how she treats people. I have seen her when there are no cameras, and she is unfailingly nice and generous. I have seen her meet with young fans and you would think she was more excited to meet the fans than they were to meet her. I am close friends with someone who grew up around her and her family, and have heard only about how consistently kind and thoughtful she is, and about many acts of thoughtfulness and generosity that she engages in without publicity.

    If you think that the fact that Taylor Swift, one of the most famous people in the world, with massive security concerns, refrains from flying commercial makes her not a nice person, well, again, I don't really know how to respond to that.
    To your last point, it's not about flying private. It's about taking a 10 minute private jet flight that could be substituted for a 30 minute car ride. And her music sucks, period.
    You can’t win against this guy, he knows EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING, and lets us know multiple times a day on here🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

    And yes, her music is crap, complete commercial shite💩💩💩💩


    What’s wrong with commercial music?  Never got this attitude.  Yea sometimes I want just pure pop music to feel good too.  Music doesn’t have to be and shouldn’t be just about one genre. 

    And she may be commercial and pop but she does it better than anyone has since the 80s of Madonna and whacko Michael Jackson,  she’s probably the biggest star in the world.  
    Being a star doe not mean the music is quality. She owes her success to marketing.
    You don't like her music. We get it. Taste is subjective. But her critical acclaim and massive commercial success suggest that your opinion is not widely shared. Marketing does not write phenomenal songs, let alone a prolific number of them over nearly two decades. 
    "Phenomenal songs" give me a break lmao
    "All Too Well," "August," "Invisible String," "Anti-Hero"-- I could go on and on and on. Again, taste is subjective, but dismissing Taylor Swift's ability as a songwriter is basically admitting either to being ignorant about songwriting or ignorant about her body of work. Quoting a line from a virtual B-side is not proving what you think it proves. I could quote you some pretty cringeworthy Eddie Vedder lyrics; it doesn't mean he's not a great songwriter.
    Trash, trash, trash, and more trash. In my opinion.
    Ya we get it lol
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