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  • northerndragonnortherndragon Posts: 9,851
    They played Just Breathe. :sick:
    So bad.
    Anything you lose from being honest
    You never really had to begin with.


    Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,865
    Oh FFS why do they do it 
    brixton 93
    astoria 06
    albany 06
    hartford 06
    reading 06
    barcelona 06
    paris 06
    wembley 07
    dusseldorf 07
    nijmegen 07

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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain Posts: 31,265
    Better than Something Special.
    Or, Parachutes.
    Or, Bee Girl.
    Or, Yellow Moon.

    However, it should be a Rarity, like those others.  Agree.

    Imma complain that they don't alternate Severed Hand and Red Mosquito every other show.  
    Take away the slow/boring rarities and put these in place.  #Sad as well.

    (These shows are great.  So much better than Gigaton album songs.  Keep rocking out)

    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • MD190661MD190661 Posts: 394
    They played Just Breathe. :sick:
    So bad.
    I like Just Breathe. Would way rather hear that in the solo spot than any of the covers he's done so far this tour- though the Bradley Cooper duet was pretty cool.
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  • VitalogensiaVitalogensia Posts: 1,995
    combio - Krusty Gets Kancelled
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  • northerndragonnortherndragon Posts: 9,851
    Better than Something Special.
    Or, Parachutes.
    Or, Bee Girl.
    Or, Yellow Moon.

    However, it should be a Rarity, like those others.  Agree.

    Imma complain that they don't alternate Severed Hand and Red Mosquito every other show.  
    Take away the slow/boring rarities and put these in place.  #Sad as well.

    (These shows are great.  So much better than Gigaton album songs.  Keep rocking out)

    Not better than those 3 songs - on par with Something Special. Just Breathe - Just Sucks, killed the whole show momentum.

    100% agree that shows have been kicking ass - 4 down and at least 2 more to go...... and everything is better than Gigaton.
    Anything you lose from being honest
    You never really had to begin with.


    Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain Posts: 31,265
    Better than Something Special.
    Or, Parachutes.
    Or, Bee Girl.
    Or, Yellow Moon.

    However, it should be a Rarity, like those others.  Agree.

    Imma complain that they don't alternate Severed Hand and Red Mosquito every other show.  
    Take away the slow/boring rarities and put these in place.  #Sad as well.

    (These shows are great.  So much better than Gigaton album songs.  Keep rocking out)

    Not better than those 3 songs - on par with Something Special. Just Breathe - Just Sucks, killed the whole show momentum.

    100% agree that shows have been kicking ass - 4 down and at least 2 more to go...... and everything is better than Gigaton.
    :lol:  
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  • NEweatherNEweather Posts: 522
    The only complaint I have is that no one ist answering my requests to get me a token, sticker or pin from any of the shows. Sure I would paypal immediately. But seriously...not really a complaint, just a try to get attention. :bawling:
        ( Sent you a pm )
  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 92,506
    trees said:
    Is there going to be a boxset for this tour ? 
    I've bought some bootlegs cds before. Then they come out with boxset so I was waiting too see if a   bootlegs  boxset or empty box for the 2024 tour comes out  .anyone know anything? 

    I hope so.
  • Original_ShiftyOriginal_Shifty Posts: 378
    My complaint today is that the gd first leg is over. Bastards!!!!!!!!!
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 92,506
    Gonna complain about not having an adult size edition of the Dark Matter anime shirt. What's up with that? That design is so cool! 


  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    edited June 5
    BF25394 said:
    Oh brother.

    "Many" that's a nice objective figure....

    Moreover, I'm sure those 'many' who can't afford minimum bank and credit card fees are the same 'many' who just dropped $400 minimum on a pair concert tickets.

    Free of using cash I might add..
    Look, I don't make stuff up here. I said "many" because it's an accurate word to quantify the 5.9 million U.S. households that have no bank accounts at all according to the FDIC, accounting for well over ten million Americans. That's in addition to the tens of millions more that are underbanked. This is without even addressing the privacy issues.

    Just because the tickets were originally purchased online, that doesn't mean that there weren't subsequent transactions exchanging tickets for cash. And the issue is not just about these Pearl Jam shows at 185 bucks a pop. People have to jump through hoops to go to a baseball game where there are ten-dollar tickets. People can't go to certain restaurants because they won't accept cash. People can't go to the Los Angeles Auto Show, a twenty-dollar ticket, without a card. Two years ago, when they stopped accepting cash, I tried to use my card to buy a ticket and it was declined because my credit-card company thought it was suspicious. It took me ten minutes to get my card reactivated. At least I had a card, but some guy who lives paycheck-to-paycheck and gets paid in cash would be S.O.L. after he drove an hour to get there only to find out that cash is not legal tender for this particular debt.

    It's always good to remember that everyone is not similarly situated to oneself.
    Thank goodness for prepaid credit cards then, which you can find at every drugstore, grocery store and 7-11. It truly is very simple to get around every barrier you have mentioned.
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,171
    demetrios said:
    Gonna complain about not having an adult size edition of the Dark Matter anime shirt. What's up with that? That design is so cool! 


    Co-complained. That shirt is awesome. 
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,502
    PJ_Soul said:
    BF25394 said:
    Oh brother.

    "Many" that's a nice objective figure....

    Moreover, I'm sure those 'many' who can't afford minimum bank and credit card fees are the same 'many' who just dropped $400 minimum on a pair concert tickets.

    Free of using cash I might add..
    Look, I don't make stuff up here. I said "many" because it's an accurate word to quantify the 5.9 million U.S. households that have no bank accounts at all according to the FDIC, accounting for well over ten million Americans. That's in addition to the tens of millions more that are underbanked. This is without even addressing the privacy issues.

    Just because the tickets were originally purchased online, that doesn't mean that there weren't subsequent transactions exchanging tickets for cash. And the issue is not just about these Pearl Jam shows at 185 bucks a pop. People have to jump through hoops to go to a baseball game where there are ten-dollar tickets. People can't go to certain restaurants because they won't accept cash. People can't go to the Los Angeles Auto Show, a twenty-dollar ticket, without a card. Two years ago, when they stopped accepting cash, I tried to use my card to buy a ticket and it was declined because my credit-card company thought it was suspicious. It took me ten minutes to get my card reactivated. At least I had a card, but some guy who lives paycheck-to-paycheck and gets paid in cash would be S.O.L. after he drove an hour to get there only to find out that cash is not legal tender for this particular debt.

    It's always good to remember that everyone is not similarly situated to oneself.
    Thank goodness for prepaid credit cards then, which you can find at every drugstore, grocery store and 7-11. It truly is very simple to get around every barrier you have mentioned.
    Your definition of "very simple" is quite different than mine. Handing someone cash is very simple. Going out of your way to exchange cash for a prepaid card at a different location than where you are required to use it is not very simple, especially when you may not know it's required until you get where you're going (or exactly how much you need to put on it). Why would someone have assumed that they would need a card to get into the L.A. Auto Show when it had never worked that way? So he would have arrived, parked, and then found out he needed to go find a drugstore, grocery store or 7-11 in downtown L.A. to go buy a prepaid card? This is not "very simple."
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • schaefferlaxschaefferlax Posts: 366
    BF25394 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    BF25394 said:
    Oh brother.

    "Many" that's a nice objective figure....

    Moreover, I'm sure those 'many' who can't afford minimum bank and credit card fees are the same 'many' who just dropped $400 minimum on a pair concert tickets.

    Free of using cash I might add..
    Look, I don't make stuff up here. I said "many" because it's an accurate word to quantify the 5.9 million U.S. households that have no bank accounts at all according to the FDIC, accounting for well over ten million Americans. That's in addition to the tens of millions more that are underbanked. This is without even addressing the privacy issues.

    Just because the tickets were originally purchased online, that doesn't mean that there weren't subsequent transactions exchanging tickets for cash. And the issue is not just about these Pearl Jam shows at 185 bucks a pop. People have to jump through hoops to go to a baseball game where there are ten-dollar tickets. People can't go to certain restaurants because they won't accept cash. People can't go to the Los Angeles Auto Show, a twenty-dollar ticket, without a card. Two years ago, when they stopped accepting cash, I tried to use my card to buy a ticket and it was declined because my credit-card company thought it was suspicious. It took me ten minutes to get my card reactivated. At least I had a card, but some guy who lives paycheck-to-paycheck and gets paid in cash would be S.O.L. after he drove an hour to get there only to find out that cash is not legal tender for this particular debt.

    It's always good to remember that everyone is not similarly situated to oneself.
    Thank goodness for prepaid credit cards then, which you can find at every drugstore, grocery store and 7-11. It truly is very simple to get around every barrier you have mentioned.
    Your definition of "very simple" is quite different than mine. Handing someone cash is very simple. Going out of your way to exchange cash for a prepaid card at a different location than where you are required to use it is not very simple, especially when you may not know it's required until you get where you're going (or exactly how much you need to put on it). Why would someone have assumed that they would need a card to get into the L.A. Auto Show when it had never worked that way? So he would have arrived, parked, and then found out he needed to go find a drugstore, grocery store or 7-11 in downtown L.A. to go buy a prepaid card? This is not "very simple."
    What is your point? The population that is "underbanked" are most likely in awful financial situations and will not be concerned with attending auto shows, concerts, etc. You're pointing out niche situations that don't reflect the reality of 99% of transactions. Businesses not accepting cash is not the major problem you're making it out to be. Mountain out of a mole hill.
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  • CarryTheZeroCarryTheZero Posts: 2,893
    My “PJ” complaint is please tour the U.S. during the summer! I’m a teacher. It’s vacation time! Let’s go for 2025! 😜 
  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,502
    BF25394 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    BF25394 said:
    Oh brother.

    "Many" that's a nice objective figure....

    Moreover, I'm sure those 'many' who can't afford minimum bank and credit card fees are the same 'many' who just dropped $400 minimum on a pair concert tickets.

    Free of using cash I might add..
    Look, I don't make stuff up here. I said "many" because it's an accurate word to quantify the 5.9 million U.S. households that have no bank accounts at all according to the FDIC, accounting for well over ten million Americans. That's in addition to the tens of millions more that are underbanked. This is without even addressing the privacy issues.

    Just because the tickets were originally purchased online, that doesn't mean that there weren't subsequent transactions exchanging tickets for cash. And the issue is not just about these Pearl Jam shows at 185 bucks a pop. People have to jump through hoops to go to a baseball game where there are ten-dollar tickets. People can't go to certain restaurants because they won't accept cash. People can't go to the Los Angeles Auto Show, a twenty-dollar ticket, without a card. Two years ago, when they stopped accepting cash, I tried to use my card to buy a ticket and it was declined because my credit-card company thought it was suspicious. It took me ten minutes to get my card reactivated. At least I had a card, but some guy who lives paycheck-to-paycheck and gets paid in cash would be S.O.L. after he drove an hour to get there only to find out that cash is not legal tender for this particular debt.

    It's always good to remember that everyone is not similarly situated to oneself.
    Thank goodness for prepaid credit cards then, which you can find at every drugstore, grocery store and 7-11. It truly is very simple to get around every barrier you have mentioned.
    Your definition of "very simple" is quite different than mine. Handing someone cash is very simple. Going out of your way to exchange cash for a prepaid card at a different location than where you are required to use it is not very simple, especially when you may not know it's required until you get where you're going (or exactly how much you need to put on it). Why would someone have assumed that they would need a card to get into the L.A. Auto Show when it had never worked that way? So he would have arrived, parked, and then found out he needed to go find a drugstore, grocery store or 7-11 in downtown L.A. to go buy a prepaid card? This is not "very simple."
    What is your point? The population that is "underbanked" are most likely in awful financial situations and will not be concerned with attending auto shows, concerts, etc. You're pointing out niche situations that don't reflect the reality of 99% of transactions. Businesses not accepting cash is not the major problem you're making it out to be. Mountain out of a mole hill.
    As I have already said, I am speaking about this from experience. I deal with people who navigate this every day. And, yes, people who live paycheck to paycheck and people who have not been able to establish good credit also spend money on entertainment, like most other humans. The L.A. Auto Show is twenty bucks. It's not a prohibitively costly event. All kinds of people attend it for all different reasons, including that it's a really efficient way to research when you're looking to buy a car, with test drives of every make and model all available in one location. And MLB teams play 81 games and have lots of inventory. Most of them offer inexpensive tickets for many if not all of those games. It's not just about premium Pearl Jam tickets, even though there are people who save their cash to be able to splurge on an event like that.

    It's enough of a problem that multiple U.S. states have passed laws requiring businesses to accept cash for most transactions, and it's enough of a problem that a bill has been proposed in the U.S. Congress with bipartisan sponsors to require the same on a national level.

    It's terrific that it's not a problem for you, but please don't assume that it's not a problem for others. It is. And, again, this is without even getting into questions of privacy. You ought to be able to buy something or attend an event without being tracked.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 92,506
    My complaint today is ... why can't we pre order the 2024 CD Box Set already? And where's the 2023 Box Set? 
  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,123
    demetrios said:
    My complaint today is ... why can't we pre order the 2024 CD Box Set already? And where's the 2023 Box Set? 
    Things are pretty bad if Demetrios is complaining.  Let’s fix this, Pearl Jam! 
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 92,506
    on2legs said:
    demetrios said:
    My complaint today is ... why can't we pre order the 2024 CD Box Set already? And where's the 2023 Box Set? 
    Things are pretty bad if Demetrios is complaining.  Let’s fix this, Pearl Jam! 

    I know right? Make it happen, please. 
  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,123
    My complaint… too many days until MSG! 
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  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,857
    My “PJ” complaint is please tour the U.S. during the summer! I’m a teacher. It’s vacation time! Let’s go for 2025! 😜 
    As the husband of a teacher, I fully endorse this!
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,636
    edited June 14
    BF25394 said:
    BF25394 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    BF25394 said:
    Oh brother.

    "Many" that's a nice objective figure....

    Moreover, I'm sure those 'many' who can't afford minimum bank and credit card fees are the same 'many' who just dropped $400 minimum on a pair concert tickets.

    Free of using cash I might add..
    Look, I don't make stuff up here. I said "many" because it's an accurate word to quantify the 5.9 million U.S. households that have no bank accounts at all according to the FDIC, accounting for well over ten million Americans. That's in addition to the tens of millions more that are underbanked. This is without even addressing the privacy issues.

    Just because the tickets were originally purchased online, that doesn't mean that there weren't subsequent transactions exchanging tickets for cash. And the issue is not just about these Pearl Jam shows at 185 bucks a pop. People have to jump through hoops to go to a baseball game where there are ten-dollar tickets. People can't go to certain restaurants because they won't accept cash. People can't go to the Los Angeles Auto Show, a twenty-dollar ticket, without a card. Two years ago, when they stopped accepting cash, I tried to use my card to buy a ticket and it was declined because my credit-card company thought it was suspicious. It took me ten minutes to get my card reactivated. At least I had a card, but some guy who lives paycheck-to-paycheck and gets paid in cash would be S.O.L. after he drove an hour to get there only to find out that cash is not legal tender for this particular debt.

    It's always good to remember that everyone is not similarly situated to oneself.
    Thank goodness for prepaid credit cards then, which you can find at every drugstore, grocery store and 7-11. It truly is very simple to get around every barrier you have mentioned.
    Your definition of "very simple" is quite different than mine. Handing someone cash is very simple. Going out of your way to exchange cash for a prepaid card at a different location than where you are required to use it is not very simple, especially when you may not know it's required until you get where you're going (or exactly how much you need to put on it). Why would someone have assumed that they would need a card to get into the L.A. Auto Show when it had never worked that way? So he would have arrived, parked, and then found out he needed to go find a drugstore, grocery store or 7-11 in downtown L.A. to go buy a prepaid card? This is not "very simple."
    What is your point? The population that is "underbanked" are most likely in awful financial situations and will not be concerned with attending auto shows, concerts, etc. You're pointing out niche situations that don't reflect the reality of 99% of transactions. Businesses not accepting cash is not the major problem you're making it out to be. Mountain out of a mole hill.
    As I have already said, I am speaking about this from experience. I deal with people who navigate this every day. And, yes, people who live paycheck to paycheck and people who have not been able to establish good credit also spend money on entertainment, like most other humans. The L.A. Auto Show is twenty bucks. It's not a prohibitively costly event. All kinds of people attend it for all different reasons, including that it's a really efficient way to research when you're looking to buy a car, with test drives of every make and model all available in one location. And MLB teams play 81 games and have lots of inventory. Most of them offer inexpensive tickets for many if not all of those games. It's not just about premium Pearl Jam tickets, even though there are people who save their cash to be able to splurge on an event like that.

    It's enough of a problem that multiple U.S. states have passed laws requiring businesses to accept cash for most transactions, and it's enough of a problem that a bill has been proposed in the U.S. Congress with bipartisan sponsors to require the same on a national level.

    It's terrific that it's not a problem for you, but please don't assume that it's not a problem for others. It is. And, again, this is without even getting into questions of privacy. You ought to be able to buy something or attend an event without being tracked.

    Additionally, there is the ADA issue. Expecting me to make an additional trip to the store to pick up a prepaid card, will the event organizer or performer cover the cost if I fall making an unnecessary trip? That’s a very low chance of occurring, but why am I forced to take risk for an event organizers predatory practice? The local arena here is cashless and when I asked an employee where I can use cash, some sixteen year old with an attitude told me there is a machine that will give me a card for cash halfway around the arena and up two levels. I looked at him in disbelief. Also, there is the bullying customers for tip issue on the machines, which gives the customer additional work to not leave a tip, and makes it an embarrassing action.

    I used to see the world thinking that blue parking spots took care of the needs for those with mobility issues. Unfortunately I have been forced to learn a completely new perspective. I never had a back nor knee issue in my life, then my late fifties happened. Surprise.
    ..




     

    Post edited by Lerxst1992 on
  • schaefferlaxschaefferlax Posts: 366
    BF25394 said:
    BF25394 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    BF25394 said:
    Oh brother.

    "Many" that's a nice objective figure....

    Moreover, I'm sure those 'many' who can't afford minimum bank and credit card fees are the same 'many' who just dropped $400 minimum on a pair concert tickets.

    Free of using cash I might add..
    Look, I don't make stuff up here. I said "many" because it's an accurate word to quantify the 5.9 million U.S. households that have no bank accounts at all according to the FDIC, accounting for well over ten million Americans. That's in addition to the tens of millions more that are underbanked. This is without even addressing the privacy issues.

    Just because the tickets were originally purchased online, that doesn't mean that there weren't subsequent transactions exchanging tickets for cash. And the issue is not just about these Pearl Jam shows at 185 bucks a pop. People have to jump through hoops to go to a baseball game where there are ten-dollar tickets. People can't go to certain restaurants because they won't accept cash. People can't go to the Los Angeles Auto Show, a twenty-dollar ticket, without a card. Two years ago, when they stopped accepting cash, I tried to use my card to buy a ticket and it was declined because my credit-card company thought it was suspicious. It took me ten minutes to get my card reactivated. At least I had a card, but some guy who lives paycheck-to-paycheck and gets paid in cash would be S.O.L. after he drove an hour to get there only to find out that cash is not legal tender for this particular debt.

    It's always good to remember that everyone is not similarly situated to oneself.
    Thank goodness for prepaid credit cards then, which you can find at every drugstore, grocery store and 7-11. It truly is very simple to get around every barrier you have mentioned.
    Your definition of "very simple" is quite different than mine. Handing someone cash is very simple. Going out of your way to exchange cash for a prepaid card at a different location than where you are required to use it is not very simple, especially when you may not know it's required until you get where you're going (or exactly how much you need to put on it). Why would someone have assumed that they would need a card to get into the L.A. Auto Show when it had never worked that way? So he would have arrived, parked, and then found out he needed to go find a drugstore, grocery store or 7-11 in downtown L.A. to go buy a prepaid card? This is not "very simple."
    What is your point? The population that is "underbanked" are most likely in awful financial situations and will not be concerned with attending auto shows, concerts, etc. You're pointing out niche situations that don't reflect the reality of 99% of transactions. Businesses not accepting cash is not the major problem you're making it out to be. Mountain out of a mole hill.
    As I have already said, I am speaking about this from experience. I deal with people who navigate this every day. And, yes, people who live paycheck to paycheck and people who have not been able to establish good credit also spend money on entertainment, like most other humans. The L.A. Auto Show is twenty bucks. It's not a prohibitively costly event. All kinds of people attend it for all different reasons, including that it's a really efficient way to research when you're looking to buy a car, with test drives of every make and model all available in one location. And MLB teams play 81 games and have lots of inventory. Most of them offer inexpensive tickets for many if not all of those games. It's not just about premium Pearl Jam tickets, even though there are people who save their cash to be able to splurge on an event like that.

    It's enough of a problem that multiple U.S. states have passed laws requiring businesses to accept cash for most transactions, and it's enough of a problem that a bill has been proposed in the U.S. Congress with bipartisan sponsors to require the same on a national level.

    It's terrific that it's not a problem for you, but please don't assume that it's not a problem for others. It is. And, again, this is without even getting into questions of privacy. You ought to be able to buy something or attend an event without being tracked.

    Additionally, there is the ADA issue. Expecting me to make an additional trip to the store to pick up a prepaid card, will the event organizer or performer cover the cost if I fall making an unnecessary trip? That’s a very low chance of occurring, but why am I forced to take risk for an event organizers predatory practice? The local arena here is cashless and when I asked an employee where I can use cash, some sixteen year old with an attitude told me there is a machine that will give me a card for cash halfway around the arena and up two levels. I looked at him in disbelief. Also, there is the bullying customers for tip issue on the machines, which gives the customer additional work to not leave a tip, and makes it an embarrassing action.

    I used to see the world thinking that blue parking spots took care of the needs for those with mobility issues. Unfortunately I have been forced to learn a completely new perspective. I never had a back nor knee issue in my life, then my late fifties happened. Surprise.
    ..




     


    Agree with the tip request thing but at this point, I am not embarrassed at all to press no tip. I think society as a whole is coming around to that idea too. If I'm picking up food myself, no waiter involved, I'm not tipping. I might tip if I'm ordering some sort of specialty coffee.
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain Posts: 31,265
    I am tired of people complaining about the tip option.  Those poor fuckers deal with the asshole public and deserve tips of they give good service, imo.
    And, we can always press no.

    Not a personal dig at Lerxst, only putting it on the Complainers Thread as it is a complaint of mine.  :lol:  
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  • marumarukomarumaruko Posts: 253
    I've listened to all bootlegs from leg 1 now (my fault, yes, I know), but if Ed won't have a better way to introduce Waiting for Stevie than what he said at every single show then I hope they just play it without introduction or not play it at all. 
    The story of the song is omnipresent in every album review, concert review and interview and totally no surprise or mood raiser anymore (especially in the later bootlegs). 

    Petition (and a second complaint): Play more Got to Give. 
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,636
    I am tired of people complaining about the tip option.  Those poor fuckers deal with the asshole public and deserve tips of they give good service, imo.
    And, we can always press no.

    Not a personal dig at Lerxst, only putting it on the Complainers Thread as it is a complaint of mine.  :lol:  

    We are all entitled to our opinions, that’s why we are here. I don’t mind tipping, usually I’d tip minimum 20% at a restaurant but I think we’re talking about waiting on line for food at a counter. I wouldn’t mind putting a few dollars in a jar, but to force me to use a cc, then force me to use their technology that everyone touches right before we all eat, then to shame me into leaving a minimum 15% tip for counter service, or making me take extra steps on their tech to not leave a tip, it’s unbecoming imo.
  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,123
    I am tired of people complaining about the tip option.  Those poor fuckers deal with the asshole public and deserve tips of they give good service, imo.
    And, we can always press no.

    Not a personal dig at Lerxst, only putting it on the Complainers Thread as it is a complaint of mine.  :lol:  
    I don’t mind tipping counter workers but… most times you are prompted for the tip when you place the order and before any service has actually been provided.  I’m a fan of a tip jar I can drop a couple of bucks in after I get my coffee or sandwich and it was a good experience. 
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 92,506
    I am tired of people complaining about the tip option.  Those poor fuckers deal with the asshole public and deserve tips of they give good service, imo.
    And, we can always press no.

    Not a personal dig at Lerxst, only putting it on the Complainers Thread as it is a complaint of mine.  :lol:  

    We are all entitled to our opinions, that’s why we are here. I don’t mind tipping, usually I’d tip minimum 20% at a restaurant but I think we’re talking about waiting on line for food at a counter. I wouldn’t mind putting a few dollars in a jar, but to force me to use a cc, then force me to use their technology that everyone touches right before we all eat, then to shame me into leaving a minimum 15% tip for counter service, or making me take extra steps on their tech to not leave a tip, it’s unbecoming imo.

    I don't mind tipping. I'll tip well if the service was great.

    One thing I noticed back in Seattle was the times I bought something at the Pearl Jam merch truck I had the option on their iPad screen to tip. But inside the arena I didn't have that option to tip.
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,138
    I don't think you need to tip too much when buying merch or paying big bucks for a beer at an arena. If your server is actually doing something, like making you a nice drink or bringing you some food, then tip well. 
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