European Tour Sales = Desaster

drfox

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Wish I picked London, with Kings of Leon playing the day after  

Was Kings of Leons tour known when PJ had the lottery? Didn't I do my due diligence and focused too much on Dua Lipas tour plans?

There were rumours about BST for Kings of Leon but the rumoured date was 13th July and not the actual date of the 30th June 

Spiritual_Chaos

And with the The Terminator / Terminator 2: Judgment Day 35mm Double featured being presumed for the 29th of August in London... 

... it would be dumb to go to London twice that summer

... and THIS TOUR IS (TOO) EXPENSIVE (not only counting the ticket cost).

Yuck

Wish I would have somehow known about KoL:s tour plans

Spiritual_Chaos

THIS KINGS OF LEON BUSINESS IS BULLSHIEEET

2-feign-reluctance

Desaster for sure OP. 

SR259355

Looks like the London prices have dropped a little….

Kearn5y

SR259355 said:

Looks like the London prices have dropped a little….

Looks like there are now 3 price levels for this area now. Last 13 rows are 91.10, next 20 or so are 125 and lower rows are 157

hadrielia

Some sections price in Barcelona has dropped as well

ilockyer

Kusy said:

Zen23 said:

ilockyer said:

Given the rumours were 99% accurate, I believe the plan was two nights at the o2 arena on 28 and 29 June, hence the gap, as it'd have been two clear days between cities which seems to be the minimum in the touring plans now. Either that information was off from the beginning, or something changed that made them decide to switch to the stadium. 

I underline this. I also assume that the 28th and 29th were planned for the O2 Arena. Can't imagine they'd schedule three days off in advance between Manchester and London. I can only think of three reasons.

- They were arrogant enough to think they'd sell out tottenham stadium twice. And still had June 28th as an extra show in secret. We now know that's not going to happen.

- Instead of playing an extra show in London, they chose Manchester as the venue for a second show. Either for June 26th or 27th. But even that won't happen now after the generally poor presales. First of all, they have to do everything they can to fill London on June 29th. And to do that, they first have to push the upper and rear tiers to under 100 euros.

- Third option. They really wanted three days of rest and relaxation between Manchester and London. On the one hand because of the following double concert in Berlin. And secondly because they really believed that London would sell itself easily, even in such a gigantic soccer stadium. 

4 option: Glasto

I wish, since I have a ticket, but it's unlikely for a whole number of reasons, not least that they don't do different locations on consecutive nights any more. 
Glasto headliners are (very strongly) rumoured to be Coldplay, Dua Lipa, and Stevie Wonder, with Stevie Nicks in the Sunday legend slot. There's no way PJ would headline the Other Stage. 
Glastonbury pays substantially less than any others, Coldplay usually play for costs only, Stevie W and Stevie Nicks are unannounced BST headliners based on the same rumours that had KoL, and Dua Lipa will probably benefit significantly from the exposure on UK television boosting sales/streams. 

Zen23

hadrielia said:

Some sections price in Barcelona has dropped as well

It's a shame that they've only reduced the last furthest corners of the upper tier. 92 euros should be for the entire upper tier in level 3. 

Zen23

My magic crystal ball says they'll reduce the last three rows of Manchester's upper tier next. As if by magic, they too are suddenly taken off sale. 

Lerxst1992

drfox said:

STATEOFLOVE59 said:

drfox said:

I still can’t understand why they think they will sell out these venues at £160 when Foo Fighters, Green Day, AC/DC and the Killers are all charging around £80-95 a ticket at exactly the same time…. Green Day is playing at Wembley the same night as PJ at Spurs for half the price. Why do they need to charge this amount when others don’t. Makes absolute no sense and the lack of sales at London, Berlin and Barcelona is to be expected. I’m going to 4 shows but I can see why lots of fans are boycotting it. 

Do you really compare GreenDay to PJ?

Personally no, PJ are in a different league. However recently Green Day is a bigger band than PJ in Europe (probably driven by them touring more and delivering more records) and there is certainly an overlap in fans. I would 100% have bought a ticket to see them and only didn’t because of the tour rumour page in this forum 

Pearl Jam used to be perhaps the most popular band coming from the '90s.

 But when you don't make tickets available to a maximum amount of fans and you have ticket policies that drive up prices you're limiting your audience. And as you said The Limited touring doesn't help either

I'd love to be able to bring friends who are casual fans to the unique experience that is a Pearl Jam concert, but here in the NY their tickets are almost impossible to get and I'm always traveling to other cities or paying $700 for tickets

 
 

JK109224

They will have good seats and GA tickets for sale at "standard" prices by show time. This is obvious.

PJINFLA

Spiritual_Chaos said:

kaw753 said:

jimjam1982 said:

Soybeans said:

willwall said:

I’m so happy that this has backfired on them. 

Things that are ok in the US, doesn’t mean it’s ok to do here. 

Manchester is 50% sold. London is easily less than 50% sold. You reap what you sow at the end of the day.

Those saying it’s not the band and that they are entirely blameless are wrong. They’ll know what’s going on. At least Springsteen had the bottle to come out and own up to the Dynamic pricing and what he was doing. 

Can see a lot of these shows being reduced or even on offer in a few weeks time.

Is already happening. The prices for Barcelona are coming down. Barcelona uppers down $30, lowers have come down by $50.

But it's too late for many. Scanning the sad comments on the socials, it's clear that our proud Spanish PJ brothers and sisters are done. Sadly,  I have to hope these arenas remain half empty at show time. 

If its half empty the show gets cancelled. Be careful what you wish for if you have tix

If they cancel a show due to poor ticket sales because the prices are too high, you don't think the fans who have booked travel and vacation time from work might be just a bit upset? 

Pearl Jam have always survived upset fans. They know what the power balance is.

Yes PJ have become experts at continually lowing our expectations each year while still maintaining a significant fan base.

Eraserhead

"I once paid £160 for ONE ticket to see Pearl Jam..."

Gibbon to Fly

I still think £80 at the rear at Spurs Stadium and £90 for mid to rear seats would be better. AC/DC were doing £78 for top tier at Wembley.

lastexitlondon

This is the first tour I'm at peace with not doing. 

STATEOFLOVE59

lastexitlondon said:

This is the first tour I'm at peace with not doing. 

it seemms you have not been to a gig for 15 years now. Not a price problem.

lastexitlondon

STATEOFLOVE59 said:

lastexitlondon said:

This is the first tour I'm at peace with not doing. 

it seemms you have not been to a gig for 15 years now. Not a price problem.

What are you talking about. 
I've done every tour . Last tour the ticket was around £80 g.a. Not £160 for a shit seat in a stadium.

dani11

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Wish I picked London, with Kings of Leon playing the day after  

Was Kings of Leons tour known when PJ had the lottery? Didn't I do my due diligence and focused too much on Dua Lipas tour plans?

I was considering KOL but saw Golden Circle was £165!! About same price as PJ in London. Although there are more bands playing 

Zen23

Zen23 said:

My magic crystal ball says they'll reduce the last three rows of Manchester's upper tier next. As if by magic, they too are suddenly taken off sale. 

I should change my job. I'm going to become a clairvoyant. Pure magic has struck again in Pearl Jam ticket sales. After the top three rows disappeared from sale in Manchester, they have reappeared for £126.50.