I'm sure the band is aware of the prices that were set. What I was questioning was that the band is micromanaging prices like the purported 50-euro price drop.
I have no idea... I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if at least a member or two of the band feel an interest in how the shows are selling, and are in the loop. I know that if I were them, I'd be VERY interested about being unable to sell tickets for the European shows, so therefore it wouldn't be surprising if they were talking to a staff member about the situation and stuff. Sales that poor are kind of a big deal. This is their main job after all. From what I've gathered from interviews, they don't just step back and pay no attention to what is going on with the business of the band. Not to mention that it has a direct connection to how much money they will make. I really haven't met a human so far who isn't interested in that. That said, I'm sure it is someone else who works for them who is actually making shit happen. Like, no, Jeff isn't on the phone with someone at ticketmaster discussing tix prices, LOL.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I received an email confirming for N2 Chicago, but still no further followups on location. Anyone get theirs for this show yet?
Check your Ticketmaster account. They should be viewable in there.
Oh boy, I did both and support just sent me to the PJ faq link. Tickets are not in my account either, but I did get the confirmation email. Officially concerned.
I'm not mad at the cost. I'm still mad I balked at paying to see Temple of the Dog at the Paramount. I just do not understand why they gave me access to Portland. I should have just not mentioned it and just asked for Seattle. Again, this is all my fault as I was a member from 1994-2010 and "things" happen and I did not rejoin until last year. Anyway, I'll just keep asking about the F2F thing. I go to shows by myself so I should be able to find one closer to the show date. For now, I have to finish student-teaching before I can go at all!
There was no priority for the 10C tickets, so getting Portland had no impact on you not getting Seattle. Seattle was just much higher demand since it’s their home town and the last shows on the leg.
Also seniority doesn’t matter for getting selected — it only matters if you are selected for seats, seniority gives you better seats.
Wait. You mean the band I've followed since "Alive" was available in select cases of Coca-Cola, is from Seattle, a city I lived in for 20 years before I came to Eastern WA two years ago to finish school? You're kidding me! I am pretty sure since Portland is closer to me and I put it down as another option, that is why it was offered to me. Which, I may still go to! And more to my point, I was just unfamiliar with the process, gatekeeper. And I am aware that seniority gets you better seats....or did you not see the part where I was a FAN CLUB MEMBER IN THE EARLIER YEARS! (Go to the Tampa 2000 bootleg, when Sleight of Hand starts, that's me yelling "YES!")
Jesus man, you could have just said "Good luck and wait for the F2F to open!".
What I am really wondering is, it's MAY!!! Why are they not playing Safeco or Qwest???? (That is what they are called. I do not care what they are called now.)
If I didn’t get my ten club tickets to the shows I wanted to go to, is there a way to buy from a fellow member? If they don’t want theirs that is?
I'm trying to navigate that myself. I'll try to update as I get more information. This is my "Graduation Gift" to myself (I haven't been back to Seattle in 2 years and it was Night 2 in 2018 where I thought "Wait. Maybe I should go back to school and be a teacher finally." so, this would bring it full circle as I get my degree in June! Good luck!
I'm not mad at the cost. I'm still mad I balked at paying to see Temple of the Dog at the Paramount. I just do not understand why they gave me access to Portland. I should have just not mentioned it and just asked for Seattle. Again, this is all my fault as I was a member from 1994-2010 and "things" happen and I did not rejoin until last year. Anyway, I'll just keep asking about the F2F thing. I go to shows by myself so I should be able to find one closer to the show date. For now, I have to finish student-teaching before I can go at all!
There was no priority for the 10C tickets, so getting Portland had no impact on you not getting Seattle. Seattle was just much higher demand since it’s their home town and the last shows on the leg.
Also seniority doesn’t matter for getting selected — it only matters if you are selected for seats, seniority gives you better seats.
Wait. You mean the band I've followed since "Alive" was available in select cases of Coca-Cola, is from Seattle, a city I lived in for 20 years before I came to Eastern WA two years ago to finish school? You're kidding me! I am pretty sure since Portland is closer to me and I put it down as another option, that is why it was offered to me. Which, I may still go to! And more to my point, I was just unfamiliar with the process, gatekeeper. And I am aware that seniority gets you better seats....or did you not see the part where I was a FAN CLUB MEMBER IN THE EARLIER YEARS! (Go to the Tampa 2000 bootleg, when Sleight of Hand starts, that's me yelling "YES!")
Jesus man, you could have just said "Good luck and wait for the F2F to open!".
What I am really wondering is, it's MAY!!! Why are they not playing Safeco or Qwest???? (That is what they are called. I do not care what they are called now.)
I feel like you’re not listening. I’m not trying to gate keep you, and I’m not questioning your fandom. I’m just explaining to you that your statement that you think the reason you got Portland was because you’re closer than to Seattle is 100% not how the draw worked. Each show was drawn entirely independently of each other show. The fact that you won Portland had 0 impact on the fact that you didn’t win Seattle.
As for the other venues, the Mariners are playing at home the entire week so Safeco isn’t available. There’s an MLS game on 29th so they wouldn’t want to setup and then tear down. They maybe could’ve worked around the MLS game by changing the dates slightly, I guess.
I'm not mad at the cost. I'm still mad I balked at paying to see Temple of the Dog at the Paramount. I just do not understand why they gave me access to Portland. I should have just not mentioned it and just asked for Seattle. Again, this is all my fault as I was a member from 1994-2010 and "things" happen and I did not rejoin until last year. Anyway, I'll just keep asking about the F2F thing. I go to shows by myself so I should be able to find one closer to the show date. For now, I have to finish student-teaching before I can go at all!
There was no priority for the 10C tickets, so getting Portland had no impact on you not getting Seattle. Seattle was just much higher demand since it’s their home town and the last shows on the leg.
Also seniority doesn’t matter for getting selected — it only matters if you are selected for seats, seniority gives you better seats.
Wait. You mean the band I've followed since "Alive" was available in select cases of Coca-Cola, is from Seattle, a city I lived in for 20 years before I came to Eastern WA two years ago to finish school? You're kidding me! I am pretty sure since Portland is closer to me and I put it down as another option, that is why it was offered to me. Which, I may still go to! And more to my point, I was just unfamiliar with the process, gatekeeper. And I am aware that seniority gets you better seats....or did you not see the part where I was a FAN CLUB MEMBER IN THE EARLIER YEARS! (Go to the Tampa 2000 bootleg, when Sleight of Hand starts, that's me yelling "YES!")
Jesus man, you could have just said "Good luck and wait for the F2F to open!".
What I am really wondering is, it's MAY!!! Why are they not playing Safeco or Qwest???? (That is what they are called. I do not care what they are called now.)
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Sadly, after being a fan club member since 1994, being a fan club member no longer gets you at least 2 tickets to a show and at a fair price. I came off the waitlist on Friday for one of the 5 shows I registered for (Philly 9/9). The best seats I was offered tickets for were in the first seating section off of the floor seating/pit in the 4th to last row stage left for $667 PER TICKET! That is disgusting and I have lost A LOT of respect for the band. This was the band I grew up with and if I had to say when asked the most important music in my life it would be PJ. I am happy to pay more because of the costs increases the last few years, the wages of all the tour workers, etc. $200/250 per ticket, $400-500 for 2 great seats would be steep, but I'd pay that. But $1334 for 2 tickets? No thanks, not enriching already wealthy "artists".
Sadly, after being a fan club member since 1994, being a fan club member no longer gets you at least 2 tickets to a show and at a fair price. I came off the waitlist on Friday for one of the 5 shows I registered for (Philly 9/9). The best seats I was offered tickets for were in the first seating section off of the floor seating/pit in the 4th to last row stage left for $667 PER TICKET! That is disgusting and I have lost A LOT of respect for the band. This was the band I grew up with and if I had to say when asked the most important music in my life it would be PJ. I am happy to pay more because of the costs increases the last few years, the wages of all the tour workers, etc. $200/250 per ticket, $400-500 for 2 great seats would be steep, but I'd pay that. But $1334 for 2 tickets? No thanks, not enriching already wealthy "artists".
There’s a lot wrong with the current system, but to be fair, the fan club has nothing to do with the PJ Premium tickets or the verified sale. The fan club draw was earlier in the process. Not everyone got tickets, but all fan club draw tickets were at standard price. It does suck that Live Nation/TM have taken more and more good seats away from Ten Club and into the Premium inventory, but that isn’t the Ten Club’s fault. Just some facts for ya.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Sadly, after being a fan club member since 1994, being a fan club member no longer gets you at least 2 tickets to a show and at a fair price. I came off the waitlist on Friday for one of the 5 shows I registered for (Philly 9/9). The best seats I was offered tickets for were in the first seating section off of the floor seating/pit in the 4th to last row stage left for $667 PER TICKET! That is disgusting and I have lost A LOT of respect for the band. This was the band I grew up with and if I had to say when asked the most important music in my life it would be PJ. I am happy to pay more because of the costs increases the last few years, the wages of all the tour workers, etc. $200/250 per ticket, $400-500 for 2 great seats would be steep, but I'd pay that. But $1334 for 2 tickets? No thanks, not enriching already wealthy "artists".
There’s a lot wrong with the current system, but to be fair, the fan club has nothing to do with the PJ Premium tickets or the verified sale. The fan club draw was earlier in the process. Not everyone got tickets, but all fan club draw tickets were at standard price. It does suck that Live Nation/TM have taken more and more good seats away from Ten Club and into the Premium inventory, but that isn’t the Ten Club’s fault. Just some facts for ya.
It is the bands fault though. They DO get a say in how TM conduct the sale & pricing. Bands can say a firm NO to dynamic pricing, making sure prices don't go crazy. Like The Cure did for instance.
Yes, and they could mention that 10C tickets also mean sections with obstructed view.
Not disclosing obstructions is an issue for sure. It’s a different issue than this though.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Did anyone get 10c seats for Manchester? Curious about locations people got?
I've been a member for about 20 years, and in section 108 at the back.
Got decent blocks for the Barcelona shows - 105 & 122 - but obviously still not as good as the usual 10c blocks.
Did anyone else gets Barcelona seats?
I got 10C seats for Manchester in block 103 so not too bad actually, member 15+ years
Member since 2003 and I got Block 111. In 09 and 2012 at MEN my Manchester 10c seats were in first 5 rows of what is Block 102 at this new venue. Very disappointed and quite surprised to be further away than newer members but glad for anyone who got great seats.
Did anyone get 10c seats for Manchester? Curious about locations people got?
I've been a member for about 20 years, and in section 108 at the back.
Got decent blocks for the Barcelona shows - 105 & 122 - but obviously still not as good as the usual 10c blocks.
Did anyone else gets Barcelona seats?
Member since 2003 and I got block 111. Very strange. In 09 and 12 I got the equivalent of Block 102 at MEN. Something is wrong. I emailed 10c but no reply.
Does anyone know if the tickets for Dublin have been sent out to ticketmaster accounts yet? I've received my tickets for the U.S. shows but not Dublin.
I’m hoping all of those who are feeling disappointed will have their spirits lifted as it get closer to show time. There have been so many good points made on this thread. Preaching patience in procurement of tix is Grand Prix. Are they expensive; sure , but if this live experience is one of our collectively most cherished moments Isn’t it worth the tax
Great post. People need to voice their frustration and I think with time passing we’ll focus on the shows not the cost (unless you’ve been priced out of course). Hopefully positivity from the new album sets us up for a great tour!
i'm sure we'll enjoy the show and i'm very much looking forward to the album.
yet that doesn't mean i'll leave my ethics at the door.
i don't like people being taken advantage of this way. "fans" are easy targets anyway, they tend to pay whatever it takes to "not miss out" and "experience cherished moments".
people are frustrated/disappointed for a reason - this is a fcked up system and i'm glad lots of people don't support it. the only tiny chance to change anything,
Yes, I was hoping that 10C tickets for Waldbühne would've been a little bit better than section E2 (possible obstructed view)...but then again that section is closest to the stage. So if I see the band and the sound is good I'm a 100% sure I'm going to be super stoked. Plus I'm going with a friend who is a new fan and has never seen PJ before.
those are pretty good seats! the view doesn't seem very obstructed https://youtu.be/rRGjNxGEzU8?feature=shared&t=394
we got GA, but if i knew the 10C seats were in this area, i would have chosen the seats hope you'll enjoy the show!
I received an email confirming for N2 Chicago, but still no further followups on location. Anyone get theirs for this show yet?
Check your Ticketmaster account. They should be viewable in there.
Oh boy, I did both and support just sent me to the PJ faq link. Tickets are not in my account either, but I did get the confirmation email. Officially concerned.
Were you charged for the tickets?
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1995: Sacramento, San Jose
1998: Sacramento
2001: Bridge School Night 2
2003: St. Louis, Champaign, Irvine 1, Irvine 2, Chicago, East Troy, Noblesville
2004: Grand Rapids
2006: Chicago 1, Chicago 2, Cleveland, Milwaukee 2
Anyone know if band or representatives has commented anything about the criticism from the fans regarding ticket prices?
Don't know, but I just sent an email to Ten Club. Not to complain about the ticket prices, but putting Ten Club members in sections with obstructed view in Berlin for the same full price.
Maybe PJ will have to cancel the EU tour? With these ticket sales they will lose money coming here. They can come back next year with a proper EU tour, announced on time and with normal prices.
PJ wont lost money. Livenation may could. But i really doubt
Anyone know if band or representatives has commented anything about the criticism from the fans regarding ticket prices?
I just got a 2nd email today reminding me Barcelona tickets are on sale. Not sure if they are automated but I don't remember two emails like that in 3 days for other shows so maybe they are panicking a bit.
Also wait until fan to fan opens and TM sells their tickets for a lot less due to poor sales and fans won't be able to do the same. Going to be a lot of pissed off people out there.
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I have no idea... I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if at least a member or two of the band feel an interest in how the shows are selling, and are in the loop. I know that if I were them, I'd be VERY interested about being unable to sell tickets for the European shows, so therefore it wouldn't be surprising if they were talking to a staff member about the situation and stuff. Sales that poor are kind of a big deal. This is their main job after all. From what I've gathered from interviews, they don't just step back and pay no attention to what is going on with the business of the band. Not to mention that it has a direct connection to how much money they will make. I really haven't met a human so far who isn't interested in that. That said, I'm sure it is someone else who works for them who is actually making shit happen. Like, no, Jeff isn't on the phone with someone at ticketmaster discussing tix prices, LOL.
Jesus man, you could have just said "Good luck and wait for the F2F to open!".
What I am really wondering is, it's MAY!!! Why are they not playing Safeco or Qwest???? (That is what they are called. I do not care what they are called now.)
As for the other venues, the Mariners are playing at home the entire week so Safeco isn’t available. There’s an MLS game on 29th so they wouldn’t want to setup and then tear down. They maybe could’ve worked around the MLS game by changing the dates slightly, I guess.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
I have cash and a single GA ticket I won in the 10c lottery so if anyone can point me in the right direction I'd be grateful.
2022: Berlin, Budapest, Krakow, Amsterdam II
https://open.spotify.com/episode/1EZZFKW7eeFdkMbqKqs8rd?si=MkXalkzBQF2VIi7scxllMw
https://open.spotify.com/episode/3llGoYu02sXmdXo80MOSuw?si=OxtGWlDCSESRoh8f9_Cq-A
Livenation may could. But i really doubt
Also wait until fan to fan opens and TM sells their tickets for a lot less due to poor sales and fans won't be able to do the same. Going to be a lot of pissed off people out there.
Can you transfer some of the European shows?