For those submitting lottery requests for multiple countries/legs, we're supposed to do this via two different request links right? And receive 2 separate confirmation emails and #s? I want to make sure I didn't cancel my Philly/Balt request by entering a London request.
UK dates were their own specific link.
I put in for Ireland, Fenway and Manchester, and had to go through 3 different links (London was the same link as Manchester).
Not much really I guess. The difference was you got a limit on the number of shows total. I can't remember the priorities system, were you limited to two tickets per tour?
Since ticket prices have gone up, and I’m Ikinda on the edge of its worth it to me, I’d like to know if they are gonna go back to the longer sets or go with shorter ones as of the last year or so.
At their age, sets are only getting shorter.
Not a RHCP fan anymore (they were ok 20 years ago) - but I do recall last summer having my social media advert stream spammed with advert after advert for their gig at the Spurs ground. Am predicting exactly the same for this PJ concert (on Glastonbury weekend - lol).
If the PJ fan club forum is full of fans saying they can't justify the cost then this could be a tough venue to fill (at these prices).
Since ticket prices have gone up, and I’m Ikinda on the edge of its worth it to me, I’d like to know if they are gonna go back to the longer sets or go with shorter ones as of the last year or so.
Two of my best friends, who always came to PJ shows with me in the 2000's, gave up on them due to the ticket prices. And it's not like they can't afford them. They just think the band are greedy hypocrites. So do I, but I can look past it and still go to the show.
For those submitting lottery requests for multiple countries/legs, we're supposed to do this via two different request links right? And receive 2 separate confirmation emails and #s? I want to make sure I didn't cancel my Philly/Balt request by entering a London request.
UK dates were their own specific link.
I put in for Ireland, Fenway and Manchester, and had to go through 3 different links (London was the same link as Manchester).
Can someone explain how the ten club number works? Obviously if you’ve got a good number you’re most likely to get better seats.
But what’s a good number? Is it better if it’s very high or low?
the lower the better, the higher the worse, it reflects the chronological order in which you signed up. So people signin' g up 15 years ago have a number lower than me as 7 years old.
Can someone explain how the ten club number works? Obviously if you’ve got a good number you’re most likely to get better seats.
But what’s a good number? Is it better if it’s very high or low?
10c issues new numbers everytime someone signs up for a new membership. The smaller the # the longer someone has been in the 10c, the bigger the #, the less time someone has been in the 10c. The problem is you don't know how many memberships have been abandoned. So how many are active.
The other issue too, is once they created seniority, the turnover rate amongst veteran 10c members got pretty low, so it's hard to make up ground even if you stay in the 10c for a while.
Not much really I guess. The difference was you got a limit on the number of shows total. I can't remember the priorities system, were you limited to two tickets per tour?
But what does it matter, if people get shows no one else wants?
With the priority system, the ones who had concert X as their top priority were drawn against eachother. If there were tickets left and everyone at priority 1 got one, then the ones who had it at priority 2 was drawn against eachother.
Meaning, if you had the highly wanted "Eddie Vedders livingroom concert" as Priority#1, you might not get a ticket because more people had put that as 1 than there were tickets available. And if you then had "Jeff Aments jacuzzi show" at Priority#2 then you could be shit out of luck.
But if you went for concerts where tenclub had more tickets than fans wanting tickets, then you could get several shows. So there were no need to limit.
Now though, one person ca end up with all US concerts while the next guy can end up with zero. That sucks. And I do not, personally really buy into that "people found the priority system to hard" is the reason for this change.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Wow, no help for the people that already won tickets to the cancelled Baltimore show?
As someone in the fan club for years, I think it’s a more than reasonable request for members to address this. @Santos L. Halper Do you know if 10c is addressing this as promised?
Ugh I had a great seat for that show!
RIP Baltimore 2020
We had great seats for Charm City as well - hoping for a miracle in this go round.
To be fair...that's from 2002. A $65 ticket in 02 would cost $111 today. So a 2002 ticket for today's $185 would have been $108. The Stones were charging on average $119 per ticket on the Lick's Tour in 02/03
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Eddie would've said the same thing back then. Here he is in his 1995 SPIN magazine interview....
If you have a $55 Rolling Stones ticket and there’s a $3 to $6 service charge, okay. But ours was an $18.50 ticket, and now all of a sudden it’s a $24.00 ticket. That’s not right. I just want people to be able to see our shows. It’s extremely important that it’s available to everyone, that if they’d like to attend they’re able to. Also, when you start having $50 tickets, all of a sudden you’re changing your audience. And that’s a frightening thought, playing only to people that can afford a $50 ticket.
With inflation, a $50 ticket in 1995 is now $101, which is half of what tickets for the Dark Matter tour cost.
I've read everything over and over and I'm still a bit confused about when seniority kicks in if you selected a ticket option that could be standing OR seated such as London & Manchester.
Obviously it is a lottery just to get into the building. But.... assuming you win that lottery does it mean that members with the lowest 10C numbers will be automatically allocated standing, while the higher 10C numbers will be seated?
OR, is it totally random whether you get allocated seated or standing? (With your 10C number then determining how good your seats are if you're given seats).
That my friend is definitely not clear. And I don't think anybody really knows. My guess would be that it'll only kick in for seat allocation. But that's just a guess.
I had the same confusion but tried to explain it to myself with sense:
Senority doesn‘t play a role in the lottery. You win or lose depending on availability not senority.
If you won and chose „GA or Seating“ they would start giving away GA. Why? Cause it would be implausible to give away Seating if others chose only that and GA is still available. If GA is gone, people who chose „GA or Seating“ or „Only Seating“ are in the same ballot and get seats by senority once they won.
So: Draw for „GA or Seating“ > give all the winners GA > Put losers in the ballot with „Only Seating“ > draw again > give winners seats by senority
I doubt they would do two draws. If you’re selected they will give u what’s available based on your selection. Pretty simple. After that they send it over to the ten club that determine where your seats will be.
Well they have to. If you have 1000 tickets and 2000 ticket applications, you can‘t draw 1000 because you don‘t know if under those 1000 are „enough“ to meet your supply for GA. Those 1000 could hypothetically all want seats. A demand you couldn‘t supply as part of your tickets are GA.
You have to give away GA first, therefore draw twice.
sorry I beg to differ. Makes no sense to draw twice. 2000 applications, 1000 GA/Seats and 1000 seats applied, 200 GA available and 1800 seats. Entry 1 picked GA, system checks to see if GA is available, if not it picks the seat option. It’s a one draw system. It goes down the list picking entries and assigning what available. The system knows what u want and what is available and will assign accordingly.
Two draws implies your name can be pulled twice, which is actually unfair. If I’m pulled and there are seats available I will get one and don’t need to be entered into another draw.
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Guys, they’re only playing 35 shows as a “world tour” that’s why prices are high. Green Day and Foo are charging less but they’re also playing A LOT more shows. If we got a 2006 type tour pretty sure prices would be lower.
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I've read everything over and over and I'm still a bit confused about when seniority kicks in if you selected a ticket option that could be standing OR seated such as London & Manchester.
Obviously it is a lottery just to get into the building. But.... assuming you win that lottery does it mean that members with the lowest 10C numbers will be automatically allocated standing, while the higher 10C numbers will be seated?
OR, is it totally random whether you get allocated seated or standing? (With your 10C number then determining how good your seats are if you're given seats).
That my friend is definitely not clear. And I don't think anybody really knows. My guess would be that it'll only kick in for seat allocation. But that's just a guess.
I had the same confusion but tried to explain it to myself with sense:
Senority doesn‘t play a role in the lottery. You win or lose depending on availability not senority.
If you won and chose „GA or Seating“ they would start giving away GA. Why? Cause it would be implausible to give away Seating if others chose only that and GA is still available. If GA is gone, people who chose „GA or Seating“ or „Only Seating“ are in the same ballot and get seats by senority once they won.
So: Draw for „GA or Seating“ > give all the winners GA > Put losers in the ballot with „Only Seating“ > draw again > give winners seats by senority
I doubt they would do two draws. If you’re selected they will give u what’s available based on your selection. Pretty simple. After that they send it over to the ten club that determine where your seats will be.
Well they have to. If you have 1000 tickets and 2000 ticket applications, you can‘t draw 1000 because you don‘t know if under those 1000 are „enough“ to meet your supply for GA. Those 1000 could hypothetically all want seats. A demand you couldn‘t supply as part of your tickets are GA.
You have to give away GA first, therefore draw twice.
sorry I beg to differ. Makes no sense to draw twice. 2000 applications, 1000 GA/Seats and 1000 seats applied, 200 GA available and 1800 seats. Entry 1 picked GA, system checks to see if GA is available, if not it picks the seat option. It’s a one draw system. It goes down the list picking entries and assigning what available. The system knows what u want and what is available and will assign accordingly.
Two draws implies your name can be pulled twice, which is actually unfair. If I’m pulled and there are seats available I will get one and don’t need to be entered into another draw.
Yeah sure, technically it works that way. Pulled twice is not what I described. The important part is, that you assign GA first.
Cobain never got to grow up or grow old. Nor did he have to watch the world change around him. Take his opinions on these things with many grains of salt.
Is the reason for not having "only GA" this time around, them (tenclub) having so few GA tickets in the house available that they just want to make it easy and instead of have a bunch of people go for GA and nothing else, they force them into seat-tickets?
Or what is the reason for it?
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Is the reason for not having "only GA" this time around, them having so few GA tickets in the house available that they just want to make it easy and instead of have a bunch of people go for GA and nothing else, they force them into seat-tickets?
Or what is the reason for it?
whatever is the reason, i think it's really bad and even worse is the lack of early entry safety for 10c members
Is the reason for not having "only GA" this time around, them (tenclub) having so few GA tickets in the house available that they just want to make it easy and instead of have a bunch of people go for GA and nothing else, they force them into seat-tickets?
Or what is the reason for it?
I would say to sell really bad seats for a really good price that no one would pay in general sale
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Is the reason for not having "only GA" this time around, them (tenclub) having so few GA tickets in the house available that they just want to make it easy and instead of have a bunch of people go for GA and nothing else, they force them into seat-tickets?
Or what is the reason for it?
TM want to sell as many GC tickets as possible on secondary sites (that they own).
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I put in for Ireland, Fenway and Manchester, and had to go through 3 different links (London was the same link as Manchester).
Not a RHCP fan anymore (they were ok 20 years ago) - but I do recall last summer having my social media advert stream spammed with advert after advert for their gig at the Spurs ground. Am predicting exactly the same for this PJ concert (on Glastonbury weekend - lol).
If the PJ fan club forum is full of fans saying they can't justify the cost then this could be a tough venue to fill (at these prices).
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
But what’s a good number? Is it better if it’s very high or low?
With the priority system, the ones who had concert X as their top priority were drawn against eachother. If there were tickets left and everyone at priority 1 got one, then the ones who had it at priority 2 was drawn against eachother.
Meaning, if you had the highly wanted "Eddie Vedders livingroom concert" as Priority#1, you might not get a ticket because more people had put that as 1 than there were tickets available. And if you then had "Jeff Aments jacuzzi show" at Priority#2 then you could be shit out of luck.
But if you went for concerts where tenclub had more tickets than fans wanting tickets, then you could get several shows. So there were no need to limit.
Now though, one person ca end up with all US concerts while the next guy can end up with zero. That sucks. And I do not, personally really buy into that "people found the priority system to hard" is the reason for this change.
So a 2002 ticket for today's $185 would have been $108. The Stones were charging on average $119 per ticket on the Lick's Tour in 02/03
Ed Solo: 17-Louisville
If you have a $55 Rolling Stones ticket and there’s a $3 to $6 service charge, okay. But ours was an $18.50 ticket, and now all of a sudden it’s a $24.00 ticket. That’s not right. I just want people to be able to see our shows. It’s extremely important that it’s available to everyone, that if they’d like to attend they’re able to. Also, when you start having $50 tickets, all of a sudden you’re changing your audience. And that’s a frightening thought, playing only to people that can afford a $50 ticket.
With inflation, a $50 ticket in 1995 is now $101, which is half of what tickets for the Dark Matter tour cost.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
Two draws implies your name can be pulled twice, which is actually unfair. If I’m pulled and there are seats available I will get one and don’t need to be entered into another draw.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Or what is the reason for it?
I would say to sell really bad seats for a really good price that no one would pay in general sale