Official 2023 Ticket Lottery Results Thread

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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    3days said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    when do we think we will start seeing the new seat allocations roll out?
    No one knows. Personally, I think there's a lot of yarn to untangle.
    I don't think there is much to entangle.  They have a list of all those with tickets to a show...they have everyone's 10C number...and they have a list of seats rated from best to worst.  It's likely not that tough an exercise to do....but I do think they will take time to individually verify each show manually before we here...probably where most of the time will be spent.
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  • GlorifiedGEEGlorifiedGEE Posts: 169
    3days said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    when do we think we will start seeing the new seat allocations roll out?
    No one knows. Personally, I think there's a lot of yarn to untangle.
    I don't think there is much to entangle.  They have a list of all those with tickets to a show...they have everyone's 10C number...and they have a list of seats rated from best to worst.  It's likely not that tough an exercise to do....but I do think they will take time to individually verify each show manually before we here...probably where most of the time will be spent.
    Totally agree, i tend to think there might be more at play here which is why there is a delay.  Maybe its nothing crazy but likely inputs we havent considered.
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  • DiscopijDiscopij Posts: 479
    matt3846 said:
    Live image of seat re-assignment in progress…



    Crap there I am in the corner nosebleeds!
  • RK50065RK50065 St. Louis, MO Posts: 897
    Discopij said:
    matt3846 said:
    Live image of seat re-assignment in progress…



    Crap there I am in the corner nosebleeds!
    you must have a low 10C number...
  • Discopij said:
    matt3846 said:
    Live image of seat re-assignment in progress…



    Crap there I am in the corner nosebleeds!
    That's me in the corner.
    That's me in the nosebleeds, up there with the pigeons.
    Trying to not get pissed at you.
    But I don't know if I can do it.
    Oh no I've said to much, I haven't said enough
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    Eddie Vedder: 6/15/09 6/16/11
  • craigraethercraigraether Posts: 1,449
    Discopij said:
    matt3846 said:
    Live image of seat re-assignment in progress…



    Crap there I am in the corner nosebleeds!
    That's me in the corner.
    That's me in the nosebleeds, up there with the pigeons.
    Trying to not get pissed at you.
    But I don't know if I can do it.
    Oh no I've said to much, I haven't said enough
    Im losing my position..... 
  • Discopij said:
    matt3846 said:
    Live image of seat re-assignment in progress…



    Crap there I am in the corner nosebleeds!
    That's me in the corner.
    That's me in the nosebleeds, up there with the pigeons.
    Trying to not get pissed at you.
    But I don't know if I can do it.
    Oh no I've said to much, I haven't said enough
    Im losing my position..... 
    I thought I had section 100
    I thought that I had row 1
    I think I thought I'd see the stage

    But that was just a dream
    Just a dream, just a dream 
    Pearl Jam: 9/4/00 7/1/03 5/30/06 6/22/08 6/24/08 6/25/08 8/23/09 8/24/09 10/28/09 10/31/09 5/20/10 10/15/13 8/7/16 9/2/18 9/4/18 9/5/23 9/7/23 8/29/24 8/31/24

    Eddie Vedder: 6/15/09 6/16/11
  • mattcozmattcoz Chicago Posts: 2,219
    bbiggs said:
    mattcoz said:
    bbiggs said:
    Edved007 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math..  15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium. 
    If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500 
    If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ... 

    Average price per Seat is $265... 

    Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium. 

    Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase) 


    Interesting to think about. If tickets were to creep up to $265 per seat, I’m probably sitting the show out unless they are really great seats. Pushing $600 for 2 people with parking is tough to justify. 
    Part of this is the way PJ keeps the price the same regardless of seat in the arena. Excluding premium, GA cost the same as 300's behind the stage. I'd be in favor of raising prices for the good seats and keeping the crappy one's the same or lowering to offset.  I think that's what stung me the most.  Paying $160+ for a seat in the very back corner is tough to swallow, but $160+ for a GA ticket is a smoking deal. I know it's luck of the draw for GA or not, and obviously the seating by seniority, but the prices could still reflect the seats. Enter for all you are comfortable with knowing if you get pulled for GA it's $250 a pop, lower res it's $175 and upper res it's $125 or something.

    Agree 100% with the bold part.  When I go to a sporting event or any other concert, I pay more to sit close.  I prefer it that way.
    I'm selfish, I prefer paying less for my good 10C seats, lol.
    mattcoz said:
    lahren said:
    I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math..  15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium. 
    If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500 
    If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ... 

    Average price per Seat is $265... 

    Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium. 

    Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase) 


    At what point is this inflation based versus pure gouging due to monopolized ticketing? I find it hard to believe that overhead has increased THAT much in just a few years. I'm looking at my old ticket stubs from the 80s and 90s and cannot comprehend how high the prices have become since. I paid $25 with fees in 1992 to see Metallica at the peak of their popularity, all general admission back then. It wasn't much different for Gun N Roses either in 1993. Guns N Roses AND Metallica in 1993 was $27.50. Lollapalooza in the early 90s was around $25 or so. Most ticket prices were under $50 until Madonna started charging those prices. I recently saw an old clip of Kurt Cobain's eyes going wide at the idea that Madonna was charging that much. Outrageous. I know times have changed, but come on. $1,000 plus tickets???!! Something's broken here.
    It's both, it's a lot of things. Overhead has increased since COVID, inflation has increased, and the venues/promoters are trying to recoup lost revenue from years of no concerts by raising prices and fees. The $1000 tickets have always existed, or close to them, they're just now being shown next to regular face value tickets instead of only on reseller sites.

    Its really the promoter trying to cut out the middle men (brokers/scalpers) If the promoter sells a ticket for $85 and the scalpers are successfully moving them for $250.....why wouldn't the promoter raise the price. Why let a scalper succeed. The market obviously dictates that the price is obtainable? 
    Yup, exactly. But people see that when going to buy tickets and it's a shock, especially when all the face value tickets sell out so fast.


    I always preferred paying less for my good 10C seats as well.  What used to be 100 level seats at worst for me has now moved to 300 level seats at worst.  As their policy has changed, so has my perspective.  It is all relative.
    Can we wait until after the re-assignment? Long time members will not be getting 300 level seats after it is fixed.

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  • GlorifiedGEEGlorifiedGEE Posts: 169
    mattcoz said:
    bbiggs said:
    mattcoz said:
    bbiggs said:
    Edved007 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math..  15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium. 
    If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500 
    If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ... 

    Average price per Seat is $265... 

    Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium. 

    Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase) 


    Interesting to think about. If tickets were to creep up to $265 per seat, I’m probably sitting the show out unless they are really great seats. Pushing $600 for 2 people with parking is tough to justify. 
    Part of this is the way PJ keeps the price the same regardless of seat in the arena. Excluding premium, GA cost the same as 300's behind the stage. I'd be in favor of raising prices for the good seats and keeping the crappy one's the same or lowering to offset.  I think that's what stung me the most.  Paying $160+ for a seat in the very back corner is tough to swallow, but $160+ for a GA ticket is a smoking deal. I know it's luck of the draw for GA or not, and obviously the seating by seniority, but the prices could still reflect the seats. Enter for all you are comfortable with knowing if you get pulled for GA it's $250 a pop, lower res it's $175 and upper res it's $125 or something.

    Agree 100% with the bold part.  When I go to a sporting event or any other concert, I pay more to sit close.  I prefer it that way.
    I'm selfish, I prefer paying less for my good 10C seats, lol.
    mattcoz said:
    lahren said:
    I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math..  15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium. 
    If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500 
    If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ... 

    Average price per Seat is $265... 

    Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium. 

    Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase) 


    At what point is this inflation based versus pure gouging due to monopolized ticketing? I find it hard to believe that overhead has increased THAT much in just a few years. I'm looking at my old ticket stubs from the 80s and 90s and cannot comprehend how high the prices have become since. I paid $25 with fees in 1992 to see Metallica at the peak of their popularity, all general admission back then. It wasn't much different for Gun N Roses either in 1993. Guns N Roses AND Metallica in 1993 was $27.50. Lollapalooza in the early 90s was around $25 or so. Most ticket prices were under $50 until Madonna started charging those prices. I recently saw an old clip of Kurt Cobain's eyes going wide at the idea that Madonna was charging that much. Outrageous. I know times have changed, but come on. $1,000 plus tickets???!! Something's broken here.
    It's both, it's a lot of things. Overhead has increased since COVID, inflation has increased, and the venues/promoters are trying to recoup lost revenue from years of no concerts by raising prices and fees. The $1000 tickets have always existed, or close to them, they're just now being shown next to regular face value tickets instead of only on reseller sites.

    Its really the promoter trying to cut out the middle men (brokers/scalpers) If the promoter sells a ticket for $85 and the scalpers are successfully moving them for $250.....why wouldn't the promoter raise the price. Why let a scalper succeed. The market obviously dictates that the price is obtainable? 
    Yup, exactly. But people see that when going to buy tickets and it's a shock, especially when all the face value tickets sell out so fast.


    I always preferred paying less for my good 10C seats as well.  What used to be 100 level seats at worst for me has now moved to 300 level seats at worst.  As their policy has changed, so has my perspective.  It is all relative.
    Can we wait until after the re-assignment? Long time members will not be getting 300 level seats after it is fixed.

    Yup, totally agree with you here.  It is all going to be worked out fairly.
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  • DiscopijDiscopij Posts: 479
    mattcoz said:
    bbiggs said:
    mattcoz said:
    bbiggs said:
    Edved007 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math..  15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium. 
    If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500 
    If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ... 

    Average price per Seat is $265... 

    Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium. 

    Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase) 


    Interesting to think about. If tickets were to creep up to $265 per seat, I’m probably sitting the show out unless they are really great seats. Pushing $600 for 2 people with parking is tough to justify. 
    Part of this is the way PJ keeps the price the same regardless of seat in the arena. Excluding premium, GA cost the same as 300's behind the stage. I'd be in favor of raising prices for the good seats and keeping the crappy one's the same or lowering to offset.  I think that's what stung me the most.  Paying $160+ for a seat in the very back corner is tough to swallow, but $160+ for a GA ticket is a smoking deal. I know it's luck of the draw for GA or not, and obviously the seating by seniority, but the prices could still reflect the seats. Enter for all you are comfortable with knowing if you get pulled for GA it's $250 a pop, lower res it's $175 and upper res it's $125 or something.

    Agree 100% with the bold part.  When I go to a sporting event or any other concert, I pay more to sit close.  I prefer it that way.
    I'm selfish, I prefer paying less for my good 10C seats, lol.
    mattcoz said:
    lahren said:
    I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math..  15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium. 
    If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500 
    If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ... 

    Average price per Seat is $265... 

    Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium. 

    Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase) 


    At what point is this inflation based versus pure gouging due to monopolized ticketing? I find it hard to believe that overhead has increased THAT much in just a few years. I'm looking at my old ticket stubs from the 80s and 90s and cannot comprehend how high the prices have become since. I paid $25 with fees in 1992 to see Metallica at the peak of their popularity, all general admission back then. It wasn't much different for Gun N Roses either in 1993. Guns N Roses AND Metallica in 1993 was $27.50. Lollapalooza in the early 90s was around $25 or so. Most ticket prices were under $50 until Madonna started charging those prices. I recently saw an old clip of Kurt Cobain's eyes going wide at the idea that Madonna was charging that much. Outrageous. I know times have changed, but come on. $1,000 plus tickets???!! Something's broken here.
    It's both, it's a lot of things. Overhead has increased since COVID, inflation has increased, and the venues/promoters are trying to recoup lost revenue from years of no concerts by raising prices and fees. The $1000 tickets have always existed, or close to them, they're just now being shown next to regular face value tickets instead of only on reseller sites.

    Its really the promoter trying to cut out the middle men (brokers/scalpers) If the promoter sells a ticket for $85 and the scalpers are successfully moving them for $250.....why wouldn't the promoter raise the price. Why let a scalper succeed. The market obviously dictates that the price is obtainable? 
    Yup, exactly. But people see that when going to buy tickets and it's a shock, especially when all the face value tickets sell out so fast.


    I always preferred paying less for my good 10C seats as well.  What used to be 100 level seats at worst for me has now moved to 300 level seats at worst.  As their policy has changed, so has my perspective.  It is all relative.
    Can we wait until after the re-assignment? Long time members will not be getting 300 level seats after it is fixed.

    Not sure how many years you consider as a long-time member ... but I am quite confident a 20-year member will get 300s in Chicago
  • CP218430CP218430 Posts: 1,940
    My 17 years have me in nosebleeds. It is what it is. I don't anticipate it getting better. I was in the 200s before the reassignment. And here's the thing, if I'm there I don't care. Somehow in 09 (I think) I got nosebleeds in the UC and the next night I was way closer. I'll be glad to see them two nights in a row. I'll be around good people (you people) and we'll enjoy the rafters. 
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  • mattcozmattcoz Chicago Posts: 2,219
    Discopij said:
    mattcoz said:
    bbiggs said:
    mattcoz said:
    bbiggs said:
    Edved007 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math..  15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium. 
    If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500 
    If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ... 

    Average price per Seat is $265... 

    Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium. 

    Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase) 


    Interesting to think about. If tickets were to creep up to $265 per seat, I’m probably sitting the show out unless they are really great seats. Pushing $600 for 2 people with parking is tough to justify. 
    Part of this is the way PJ keeps the price the same regardless of seat in the arena. Excluding premium, GA cost the same as 300's behind the stage. I'd be in favor of raising prices for the good seats and keeping the crappy one's the same or lowering to offset.  I think that's what stung me the most.  Paying $160+ for a seat in the very back corner is tough to swallow, but $160+ for a GA ticket is a smoking deal. I know it's luck of the draw for GA or not, and obviously the seating by seniority, but the prices could still reflect the seats. Enter for all you are comfortable with knowing if you get pulled for GA it's $250 a pop, lower res it's $175 and upper res it's $125 or something.

    Agree 100% with the bold part.  When I go to a sporting event or any other concert, I pay more to sit close.  I prefer it that way.
    I'm selfish, I prefer paying less for my good 10C seats, lol.
    mattcoz said:
    lahren said:
    I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math..  15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium. 
    If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500 
    If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ... 

    Average price per Seat is $265... 

    Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium. 

    Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase) 


    At what point is this inflation based versus pure gouging due to monopolized ticketing? I find it hard to believe that overhead has increased THAT much in just a few years. I'm looking at my old ticket stubs from the 80s and 90s and cannot comprehend how high the prices have become since. I paid $25 with fees in 1992 to see Metallica at the peak of their popularity, all general admission back then. It wasn't much different for Gun N Roses either in 1993. Guns N Roses AND Metallica in 1993 was $27.50. Lollapalooza in the early 90s was around $25 or so. Most ticket prices were under $50 until Madonna started charging those prices. I recently saw an old clip of Kurt Cobain's eyes going wide at the idea that Madonna was charging that much. Outrageous. I know times have changed, but come on. $1,000 plus tickets???!! Something's broken here.
    It's both, it's a lot of things. Overhead has increased since COVID, inflation has increased, and the venues/promoters are trying to recoup lost revenue from years of no concerts by raising prices and fees. The $1000 tickets have always existed, or close to them, they're just now being shown next to regular face value tickets instead of only on reseller sites.

    Its really the promoter trying to cut out the middle men (brokers/scalpers) If the promoter sells a ticket for $85 and the scalpers are successfully moving them for $250.....why wouldn't the promoter raise the price. Why let a scalper succeed. The market obviously dictates that the price is obtainable? 
    Yup, exactly. But people see that when going to buy tickets and it's a shock, especially when all the face value tickets sell out so fast.


    I always preferred paying less for my good 10C seats as well.  What used to be 100 level seats at worst for me has now moved to 300 level seats at worst.  As their policy has changed, so has my perspective.  It is all relative.
    Can we wait until after the re-assignment? Long time members will not be getting 300 level seats after it is fixed.

    Not sure how many years you consider as a long-time member ... but I am quite confident a 20-year member will get 300s in Chicago
    I am quite confident they won't. As a 23-year member, I was in 100 level. I'm expecting to move back a little, but no way it's that much.

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  • DiscopijDiscopij Posts: 479
    mattcoz said:
    Discopij said:
    mattcoz said:
    bbiggs said:
    mattcoz said:
    bbiggs said:
    Edved007 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math..  15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium. 
    If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500 
    If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ... 

    Average price per Seat is $265... 

    Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium. 

    Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase) 


    Interesting to think about. If tickets were to creep up to $265 per seat, I’m probably sitting the show out unless they are really great seats. Pushing $600 for 2 people with parking is tough to justify. 
    Part of this is the way PJ keeps the price the same regardless of seat in the arena. Excluding premium, GA cost the same as 300's behind the stage. I'd be in favor of raising prices for the good seats and keeping the crappy one's the same or lowering to offset.  I think that's what stung me the most.  Paying $160+ for a seat in the very back corner is tough to swallow, but $160+ for a GA ticket is a smoking deal. I know it's luck of the draw for GA or not, and obviously the seating by seniority, but the prices could still reflect the seats. Enter for all you are comfortable with knowing if you get pulled for GA it's $250 a pop, lower res it's $175 and upper res it's $125 or something.

    Agree 100% with the bold part.  When I go to a sporting event or any other concert, I pay more to sit close.  I prefer it that way.
    I'm selfish, I prefer paying less for my good 10C seats, lol.
    mattcoz said:
    lahren said:
    I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math..  15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium. 
    If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500 
    If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ... 

    Average price per Seat is $265... 

    Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium. 

    Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase) 


    At what point is this inflation based versus pure gouging due to monopolized ticketing? I find it hard to believe that overhead has increased THAT much in just a few years. I'm looking at my old ticket stubs from the 80s and 90s and cannot comprehend how high the prices have become since. I paid $25 with fees in 1992 to see Metallica at the peak of their popularity, all general admission back then. It wasn't much different for Gun N Roses either in 1993. Guns N Roses AND Metallica in 1993 was $27.50. Lollapalooza in the early 90s was around $25 or so. Most ticket prices were under $50 until Madonna started charging those prices. I recently saw an old clip of Kurt Cobain's eyes going wide at the idea that Madonna was charging that much. Outrageous. I know times have changed, but come on. $1,000 plus tickets???!! Something's broken here.
    It's both, it's a lot of things. Overhead has increased since COVID, inflation has increased, and the venues/promoters are trying to recoup lost revenue from years of no concerts by raising prices and fees. The $1000 tickets have always existed, or close to them, they're just now being shown next to regular face value tickets instead of only on reseller sites.

    Its really the promoter trying to cut out the middle men (brokers/scalpers) If the promoter sells a ticket for $85 and the scalpers are successfully moving them for $250.....why wouldn't the promoter raise the price. Why let a scalper succeed. The market obviously dictates that the price is obtainable? 
    Yup, exactly. But people see that when going to buy tickets and it's a shock, especially when all the face value tickets sell out so fast.


    I always preferred paying less for my good 10C seats as well.  What used to be 100 level seats at worst for me has now moved to 300 level seats at worst.  As their policy has changed, so has my perspective.  It is all relative.
    Can we wait until after the re-assignment? Long time members will not be getting 300 level seats after it is fixed.

    Not sure how many years you consider as a long-time member ... but I am quite confident a 20-year member will get 300s in Chicago
    I am quite confident they won't. As a 23-year member, I was in 100 level. I'm expecting to move back a little, but no way it's that much.

    I hope you are right ... but the volume of PJ Premium seats has me nervous
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,298
    Discopij said:
    mattcoz said:
    bbiggs said:
    mattcoz said:
    bbiggs said:
    Edved007 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math..  15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium. 
    If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500 
    If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ... 

    Average price per Seat is $265... 

    Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium. 

    Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase) 


    Interesting to think about. If tickets were to creep up to $265 per seat, I’m probably sitting the show out unless they are really great seats. Pushing $600 for 2 people with parking is tough to justify. 
    Part of this is the way PJ keeps the price the same regardless of seat in the arena. Excluding premium, GA cost the same as 300's behind the stage. I'd be in favor of raising prices for the good seats and keeping the crappy one's the same or lowering to offset.  I think that's what stung me the most.  Paying $160+ for a seat in the very back corner is tough to swallow, but $160+ for a GA ticket is a smoking deal. I know it's luck of the draw for GA or not, and obviously the seating by seniority, but the prices could still reflect the seats. Enter for all you are comfortable with knowing if you get pulled for GA it's $250 a pop, lower res it's $175 and upper res it's $125 or something.

    Agree 100% with the bold part.  When I go to a sporting event or any other concert, I pay more to sit close.  I prefer it that way.
    I'm selfish, I prefer paying less for my good 10C seats, lol.
    mattcoz said:
    lahren said:
    I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math..  15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium. 
    If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500 
    If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ... 

    Average price per Seat is $265... 

    Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium. 

    Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase) 


    At what point is this inflation based versus pure gouging due to monopolized ticketing? I find it hard to believe that overhead has increased THAT much in just a few years. I'm looking at my old ticket stubs from the 80s and 90s and cannot comprehend how high the prices have become since. I paid $25 with fees in 1992 to see Metallica at the peak of their popularity, all general admission back then. It wasn't much different for Gun N Roses either in 1993. Guns N Roses AND Metallica in 1993 was $27.50. Lollapalooza in the early 90s was around $25 or so. Most ticket prices were under $50 until Madonna started charging those prices. I recently saw an old clip of Kurt Cobain's eyes going wide at the idea that Madonna was charging that much. Outrageous. I know times have changed, but come on. $1,000 plus tickets???!! Something's broken here.
    It's both, it's a lot of things. Overhead has increased since COVID, inflation has increased, and the venues/promoters are trying to recoup lost revenue from years of no concerts by raising prices and fees. The $1000 tickets have always existed, or close to them, they're just now being shown next to regular face value tickets instead of only on reseller sites.

    Its really the promoter trying to cut out the middle men (brokers/scalpers) If the promoter sells a ticket for $85 and the scalpers are successfully moving them for $250.....why wouldn't the promoter raise the price. Why let a scalper succeed. The market obviously dictates that the price is obtainable? 
    Yup, exactly. But people see that when going to buy tickets and it's a shock, especially when all the face value tickets sell out so fast.


    I always preferred paying less for my good 10C seats as well.  What used to be 100 level seats at worst for me has now moved to 300 level seats at worst.  As their policy has changed, so has my perspective.  It is all relative.
    Can we wait until after the re-assignment? Long time members will not be getting 300 level seats after it is fixed.

    Not sure how many years you consider as a long-time member ... but I am quite confident a 20-year member will get 300s in Chicago
    This is my 15th year. I'm fully expecting 300 level seats at this point. 
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  • cutzcutz Posts: 11,905
    So, what are your guesses for your seat reassignment?

    I think I'm Borderline. 

    Section 100's for STP

    I'll guess,MAYBE more HOPE?, I'll be in Section 200's for Chicago shows.


    358XXX
  • JG242853JG242853 Posts: 99
    Havent checked this thread in days - I take it no one has gotten final reassignments yet?  I haven't.  
    Randall's Island, NY 9/29/1996, Randall's Island, NY 6/8/1997 (Ed and Mike), Jones Beach, NY 8/23/2000, Los Angeles, CA  7/10/2006, Hartford, CT 6/27/2008, Los Angeles, CA 10/6/2009, San Diego, CA 11/21/2013, Los Angeles, CA 11/24/2013, MSG, NY 5/1/2016,
    Seattle, WA 8/10/2018, Los Angeles, CA 5/6/2022, Los Angeles, CA 5/7/2022, Camden, NJ 9/14/2022, St Paul 8/31/2023, St Paul 9/2/2023, Las Vegas 5/18/24, MSG, NY 9/3/24, Philadelphia, PA 9/9/24, Ohana, CA 9/27/24
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,916
    cutz said:
    So, what are your guesses for your seat reassignment?

    I think I'm Borderline. 

    Section 100's for STP

    I'll guess,MAYBE more HOPE?, I'll be in Section 200's for Chicago shows.


    358XXX
    Yeah I’d be happy with 200’s as long as I can face the stage but I’ve got a feeling I’ll end up on the floor behind GA 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 6,622
    cutz said:
    So, what are your guesses for your seat reassignment?

    I think I'm Borderline. 

    Section 100's for STP

    I'll guess,MAYBE more HOPE?, I'll be in Section 200's for Chicago shows.


    358XXX
    Yeah I’d be happy with 200’s as long as I can face the stage but I’ve got a feeling I’ll end up on the floor behind GA 
    I'll trade you what most certainly will be 200 or 300 levels for the UC show!
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
  • johnny__utahjohnny__utah New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 200
    Were just some side stage singles in the 120 section avail for Austin at face value. Must have popped up during the seat reassignments. Didn't last long. 
  • RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 5,125
    Just as a data point I am an 8 year member and on the last tour (originally drawn when I was a 5 year member) my seats were typically far corner lowers.  I could see myself being sent upstairs in Chicago, though hopefully not, unless they want to give me the first row on Mike’s side, but I really don’t think the 20 year members have to be concerned. 
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,952
    For anyone wondering what the view from the 300s looks like at the UC, here it is.  Bonus points for anyone that can name the band on stage without a 100x zoom…


  • joseph33joseph33 Washington DC Posts: 1,280
    Discopij said:
    matt3846 said:
    Live image of seat re-assignment in progress…



    Crap there I am in the corner nosebleeds!
    That's me in the corner.
    That's me in the nosebleeds, up there with the pigeons.
    Trying to not get pissed at you.
    But I don't know if I can do it.
    Oh no I've said to much, I haven't said enough
    Im losing my position..... 
    Losing my ambition...
  • darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 6,622
    bbiggs said:
    For anyone wondering what the view from the 300s looks like at the UC, here it is.  Bonus points for anyone that can name the band on stage without a 100x zoom…


    Knowing you? I'm guessing One Direction. 
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
  • dmbolpdmbolp ATL Posts: 1,396
    joseph33 said:
    Discopij said:
    matt3846 said:
    Live image of seat re-assignment in progress…



    Crap there I am in the corner nosebleeds!
    That's me in the corner.
    That's me in the nosebleeds, up there with the pigeons.
    Trying to not get pissed at you.
    But I don't know if I can do it.
    Oh no I've said to much, I haven't said enough
    Im losing my position..... 
    Losing my ambition...
    Trying to keep my seats with a view...
  • iOnlyownMymindiOnlyownMymind Posts: 2,846
    bbiggs said:
    For anyone wondering what the view from the 300s looks like at the UC, here it is.  Bonus points for anyone that can name the band on stage without a 100x zoom…


    Gotta be better than most 10c seats from the ballpark shows though right? 
  • Go AnimalGo Animal Posts: 6,023
    bbiggs said:
    For anyone wondering what the view from the 300s looks like at the UC, here it is.  Bonus points for anyone that can name the band on stage without a 100x zoom…


    Tool?
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 6,622
    bbiggs said:
    For anyone wondering what the view from the 300s looks like at the UC, here it is.  Bonus points for anyone that can name the band on stage without a 100x zoom…


    Gotta be better than most 10c seats from the ballpark shows though right? 
    I laughed 
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,952
    bbiggs said:
    For anyone wondering what the view from the 300s looks like at the UC, here it is.  Bonus points for anyone that can name the band on stage without a 100x zoom…


    Knowing you? I'm guessing One Direction. 
    They were the openers.  ;)

  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,916
    bbiggs said:
    For anyone wondering what the view from the 300s looks like at the UC, here it is.  Bonus points for anyone that can name the band on stage without a 100x zoom…


    The 303 section I got on the 1st reassignment was horrible even looking at the stage! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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