Canadian tickets were $150 for the 2020/22 shows in Toronto and Hamilton. I'm going to get priced out soon. Zero chance I pay anything close to $475 for a pair of tickets. They're my all-time favourite band and the shows are always great, yet that's not a price I'm willing to pay. We'll see how things play out. Be well everyone
Ed's prices were more than I was willing to pay. Relieved actually to see that tour skip Boston. Made the decision much easier.
Yep. had my buddy ask if we should try for NYC EV tix and my response was "not for nearly $500 a pair". No local show was probably a blessing that time.
The tickets in 2022 I remember being noticeable "expensive" (Budapest, Prague, Copenhagen) compared to what I have paid for similar shows here in Sweden.
Are they really at the low end of the spectrum?
Maybe I'm misremembering.
Could be regional but if they came in at 150/ticket for Boston that would definitely be low end for arenas and up. I can't claim to look at every show on the calendar, but it would be the lowest of any I've seen scheduled this year.
When I saw Ed at the Auditorium Theatre 13 months ago, I paid $475ish for that pair. I would expect similar for the next new Pearl Jam tour.
Ed's tickets have always been more than a PJ show.
I was going to say the same thing - going back to the first EV tours in 2008, he’s always charged a comparable amount to what Pearl Jam shows cost.
2003 - June 15 Fargo 2005 - Sept 1 George, Sept 8 Winnipeg 2006 - May 9/10 Toronto, June 26/27 St. Paul, July 22/23 George, Oct 21/22 Mountain View 2007 - Aug 2/5 Chicago 2008 - June 22 Washington, June 24/25 New York 2009 - Aug 21 Toronto, Aug 23/24 Chicago, Sept 21/22 Seattle, Oct 27/28/30/31 Philadelphia 2010 - May 15 Hartford, May 17 Boston, Oct 23/24 Mountain View 2011 - Sept 3/4 Alpine Valley, Sept 11/12 Toronto, Sept 17 Winnipeg, Sept 19 Saskatoon 2012 - Sept 30 Missoula 2013 - July 16 London, July 19 Chicago, Oct 12 Buffalo, Dec 2 Calgary, Dec 4 Vancouver, Dec 6 Seattle 2014 - Oct 16 Detroit, Oct 19 St. Paul, Oct 20 Milwaukee 2015 - Sept 23 (Colbert)/Sept 26, New York 2016 - Apr 28/29 Philadelphia, May 10/12 Toronto, Aug 20/22 Chicago
Yep. The main difference is the venues. Aside from festivals, Eddie's solo shows are usually in smaller venues/theatres whereas the full PJ band is playing arenas and stadiums.
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I just can't bring myself to spend the going rate for PJ shows that won't compare to any PJ shows I have seen when the tickets cost half as much. Not to mention the likely travel and associated hotel costs. Unless they play in Austin with tix at or below $150, I probably won't be seeing them again. Now if they drop a surprise late career masterpiece I will throw all my reservations in the trash and spend big money for a reinvented PJ with a fresh new sound.
I'll keep going. They're in or, about to be in their 60s. Not sure how long they'll get to tour for. If I love long enough I'll be an old man with money in the bank account with no concert tickets to buy. I'll keep going if I'm able.
I still expect PJ to be on the lower end of ticket prices, it's just that the whole industry has gone bonkers, so the lower end isn't really that cheap anymore.
I'll keep going. They're in or, about to be in their 60s. Not sure how long they'll get to tour for. If I love long enough I'll be an old man with money in the bank account with no concert tickets to buy. I'll keep going if I'm able.
I still expect PJ to be on the lower end of ticket prices, it's just that the whole industry has gone bonkers, so the lower end isn't really that cheap anymore.
I mostly agree, except with the shorter shows and higher prices the value for going to multiple isn’t there as much as it used to be.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
I'll keep going. They're in or, about to be in their 60s. Not sure how long they'll get to tour for. If I love long enough I'll be an old man with money in the bank account with no concert tickets to buy. I'll keep going if I'm able.
I still expect PJ to be on the lower end of ticket prices, it's just that the whole industry has gone bonkers, so the lower end isn't really that cheap anymore.
I mostly agree, except with the shorter shows and higher prices the value for going to multiple isn’t there as much as it used to be.
The short shows thing is weird. Basically we had 2013 to 2018 (5 to 6 years) of the 3 hour barn burners, but the current lengths are where they were most of the time (except tickets used to be cheaper).
I suppose the current challenge is 3 hour+ setlists allowed many of us to get our white whales. With regular sized sets, once they play the staples, there's only so much room for rarities, covers and non-singles.
I never got to that many shows anyways (at least not by how I compare myself to other board members). Usually Vancouver and Seattle area shows. The odd time I'll do a trip (like Oakland last year), but generally it means there's a few shows to see every few years.
I see myself sticking to that. I find if I go to too many, I start taking it for granted. I don't seem to have the tolerance other people have for multiple shows. I start loathing the repeats by the 3rd show
I'll keep going. They're in or, about to be in their 60s. Not sure how long they'll get to tour for. If I love long enough I'll be an old man with money in the bank account with no concert tickets to buy. I'll keep going if I'm able.
I still expect PJ to be on the lower end of ticket prices, it's just that the whole industry has gone bonkers, so the lower end isn't really that cheap anymore.
I mostly agree, except with the shorter shows and higher prices the value for going to multiple isn’t there as much as it used to be.
The short shows thing is weird. Basically we had 2013 to 2018 (5 to 6 years) of the 3 hour barn burners, but the current lengths are where they were most of the time (except tickets used to be cheaper).
I suppose the current challenge is 3 hour+ setlists allowed many of us to get our white whales. With regular sized sets, once they play the staples, there's only so much room for rarities, covers and non-singles.
I never got to that many shows anyways (at least not by how I compare myself to other board members). Usually Vancouver and Seattle area shows. The odd time I'll do a trip (like Oakland last year), but generally it means there's a few shows to see every few years.
I see myself sticking to that. I find if I go to too many, I start taking it for granted. I don't seem to have the tolerance other people have for multiple shows. I start loathing the repeats by the 3rd show
Yeah I’ve felt like that before doing 5 or 6 shows I found myself standing there and knowing what was coming next!
I'll keep going. They're in or, about to be in their 60s. Not sure how long they'll get to tour for. If I love long enough I'll be an old man with money in the bank account with no concert tickets to buy. I'll keep going if I'm able.
I still expect PJ to be on the lower end of ticket prices, it's just that the whole industry has gone bonkers, so the lower end isn't really that cheap anymore.
I mostly agree, except with the shorter shows and higher prices the value for going to multiple isn’t there as much as it used to be.
The short shows thing is weird. Basically we had 2013 to 2018 (5 to 6 years) of the 3 hour barn burners, but the current lengths are where they were most of the time (except tickets used to be cheaper).
I suppose the current challenge is 3 hour+ setlists allowed many of us to get our white whales. With regular sized sets, once they play the staples, there's only so much room for rarities, covers and non-singles.
I never got to that many shows anyways (at least not by how I compare myself to other board members). Usually Vancouver and Seattle area shows. The odd time I'll do a trip (like Oakland last year), but generally it means there's a few shows to see every few years.
I see myself sticking to that. I find if I go to too many, I start taking it for granted. I don't seem to have the tolerance other people have for multiple shows. I start loathing the repeats by the 3rd show
Yeah I’ve felt like that before doing 5 or 6 shows I found myself standing there and knowing what was coming next!
I’ve got to the point where I know exactly when in Alive they turn the lights on.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
PJ semes like one of the last bands that charges the same price for being in the best seats and being in the worst seats. I wonder if they'll ever give that up?
Bands should just do dutch auction style or some variation for all the good seats. This dynamic pricing is a loser. Just pisses everyone off and puts you under a microscope.
Yep. Smith and company just seeking to make a fair payday from touring rather than gouge their fans...what a novel idea. Garth Brooks last year same deal, all his tix were like $85.00 with about a $7.50 or so TM fee. No Platinum or PJ Premium or VIP or dynamic pricing.
The artist absolutely has final say. Bruce fully admitted he went all in for the cash grab this time to Rolling Stone.
Bands should just do dutch auction style or some variation for all the good seats. This dynamic pricing is a loser. Just pisses everyone off and puts you under a microscope.
I mean, that's not wrong. Before platinum seating, promoters would sell blocks of tickets directly to scalpers (often some of the best seats) as a way to generate extra revenue. When they did it like that the general public didn't know, and the bands didn't get the blame.
Ticketmaster itself seems to function as a sacrificial lamb for bands. Anyone has problems with tickets, prices, fees, just blame TM. So now that's happening with platinum, as bands are now getting blamed for the ticketing, so they're trying to blame it on TM as they're a well paid scapegoat.
In regards to the Cure. I'm not sure how much a fair comparison they are. I don't think they're on the same level or popularity as bands that can sell out an arena or stadium consistently. Thus the lower demand might take the pressure off, or remove the profitability of platinum tickets.
I do think it's cool that the Cure will be the 2nd band (that I know of) to use the fan2fan ticket exchange (which is just TM's reselling platform restricted to face value). If you're going to sell tickets below market prices, and you want to reduce scalping, you need to lock it down.
I will be curious to see if PJ uses Platinum (ahem PJ Premium) again. They sort of blamed it on the increased costs of running the tour in 2020 vs 2022. IE they needed to raise additional revenues to cover increased touring costs, even though many of the tickets had been sold 2 years prior when it was cheaper to tour. It'll be telling on the next tour whether they do it again.
I guess I should stop ranting. It's why I think not much would change of TM would break up, because why kind of bands don't want a bigger pay day, so how are you going to put the platinum genie back in the bottle.
I just hope PJ has a few good tours left in them, not looking forward to the day when it's no longer an option.
Bands should just do dutch auction style or some variation for all the good seats. This dynamic pricing is a loser. Just pisses everyone off and puts you under a microscope.
I mean, that's not wrong. Before platinum seating, promoters would sell blocks of tickets directly to scalpers (often some of the best seats) as a way to generate extra revenue. When they did it like that the general public didn't know, and the bands didn't get the blame.
Ticketmaster itself seems to function as a sacrificial lamb for bands. Anyone has problems with tickets, prices, fees, just blame TM. So now that's happening with platinum, as bands are now getting blamed for the ticketing, so they're trying to blame it on TM as they're a well paid scapegoat.
In regards to the Cure. I'm not sure how much a fair comparison they are. I don't think they're on the same level or popularity as bands that can sell out an arena or stadium consistently. Thus the lower demand might take the pressure off, or remove the profitability of platinum tickets.
I do think it's cool that the Cure will be the 2nd band (that I know of) to use the fan2fan ticket exchange (which is just TM's reselling platform restricted to face value). If you're going to sell tickets below market prices, and you want to reduce scalping, you need to lock it down.
I will be curious to see if PJ uses Platinum (ahem PJ Premium) again. They sort of blamed it on the increased costs of running the tour in 2020 vs 2022. IE they needed to raise additional revenues to cover increased touring costs, even though many of the tickets had been sold 2 years prior when it was cheaper to tour. It'll be telling on the next tour whether they do it again.
I guess I should stop ranting. It's why I think not much would change of TM would break up, because why kind of bands don't want a bigger pay day, so how are you going to put the platinum genie back in the bottle.
I just hope PJ has a few good tours left in them, not looking forward to the day when it's no longer an option.
A number of bands/artists have been using it over the past year or so. Although, not consistently for every show. I had to put my extra Billy Strings tickets for the Wiltern show on F2F last summer. And Foo Fighters are currently using it for a couple of their non-fest shows.
Bands should just do dutch auction style or some variation for all the good seats. This dynamic pricing is a loser. Just pisses everyone off and puts you under a microscope.
I mean, that's not wrong. Before platinum seating, promoters would sell blocks of tickets directly to scalpers (often some of the best seats) as a way to generate extra revenue. When they did it like that the general public didn't know, and the bands didn't get the blame.
Ticketmaster itself seems to function as a sacrificial lamb for bands. Anyone has problems with tickets, prices, fees, just blame TM. So now that's happening with platinum, as bands are now getting blamed for the ticketing, so they're trying to blame it on TM as they're a well paid scapegoat.
In regards to the Cure. I'm not sure how much a fair comparison they are. I don't think they're on the same level or popularity as bands that can sell out an arena or stadium consistently. Thus the lower demand might take the pressure off, or remove the profitability of platinum tickets.
I do think it's cool that the Cure will be the 2nd band (that I know of) to use the fan2fan ticket exchange (which is just TM's reselling platform restricted to face value). If you're going to sell tickets below market prices, and you want to reduce scalping, you need to lock it down.
I will be curious to see if PJ uses Platinum (ahem PJ Premium) again. They sort of blamed it on the increased costs of running the tour in 2020 vs 2022. IE they needed to raise additional revenues to cover increased touring costs, even though many of the tickets had been sold 2 years prior when it was cheaper to tour. It'll be telling on the next tour whether they do it again.
I guess I should stop ranting. It's why I think not much would change of TM would break up, because why kind of bands don't want a bigger pay day, so how are you going to put the platinum genie back in the bottle.
I just hope PJ has a few good tours left in them, not looking forward to the day when it's no longer an option.
The platinum genie is a result of technology. It is so easy to resell that water just finds its level unless you lock things down hard like Ten Club tickets.
All bands can realistically do is tour to demand - volume of shows, venue sizes, etc. And that's easy for me to say here on the couch but that's just kinda how it is. If you are, hypothetically, a band that is super popular, tours infrequently, and books short runs when you do tour....guess what that means for ticket prices. Hypothetically.
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Metallica tickets were ridiculous. $600 for a single ticket in the nose bleeds in Montreal. Sold as a platinum. Hopefully PJ has more respect for their fans. $156 for Canada shows last time around was reasonable. Bruce Springsteen standard tickets were $325 for TO. I expect this is where we will see prices for a show in Canada I’d we get shows announced.
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No local show was probably a blessing that time.
2005 - Sept 1 George, Sept 8 Winnipeg
2006 - May 9/10 Toronto, June 26/27 St. Paul, July 22/23 George, Oct 21/22 Mountain View
2007 - Aug 2/5 Chicago
2008 - June 22 Washington, June 24/25 New York
2009 - Aug 21 Toronto, Aug 23/24 Chicago, Sept 21/22 Seattle, Oct 27/28/30/31 Philadelphia
2010 - May 15 Hartford, May 17 Boston, Oct 23/24 Mountain View
2011 - Sept 3/4 Alpine Valley, Sept 11/12 Toronto, Sept 17 Winnipeg, Sept 19 Saskatoon
2012 - Sept 30 Missoula
2013 - July 16 London, July 19 Chicago, Oct 12 Buffalo, Dec 2 Calgary, Dec 4 Vancouver, Dec 6 Seattle
2014 - Oct 16 Detroit, Oct 19 St. Paul, Oct 20 Milwaukee
2015 - Sept 23 (Colbert)/Sept 26, New York
2016 - Apr 28/29 Philadelphia, May 10/12 Toronto, Aug 20/22 Chicago
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Purely based on pricing of Metallica tickets which were $340 for a two night ticket (170 per night) for lower bowl good face value seats.
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Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
I suppose the current challenge is 3 hour+ setlists allowed many of us to get our white whales. With regular sized sets, once they play the staples, there's only so much room for rarities, covers and non-singles.
I never got to that many shows anyways (at least not by how I compare myself to other board members). Usually Vancouver and Seattle area shows. The odd time I'll do a trip (like Oakland last year), but generally it means there's a few shows to see every few years.
I see myself sticking to that. I find if I go to too many, I start taking it for granted. I don't seem to have the tolerance other people have for multiple shows. I start loathing the repeats by the 3rd show
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
PJ semes like one of the last bands that charges the same price for being in the best seats and being in the worst seats. I wonder if they'll ever give that up?
"We had final say in our ticket pricing for this upcoming tour, and didn't want those prices instantly and horribly distorted by resale," Smith commented ahead of the ticket sale. He later noted, "We didn't agree to the dynamic pricing / price surging / platinum ticket thing, because it itself is a bit of a scam? A separate conversation."
The artist absolutely has final say. Bruce fully admitted he went all in for the cash grab this time to Rolling Stone.
Ticketmaster itself seems to function as a sacrificial lamb for bands. Anyone has problems with tickets, prices, fees, just blame TM. So now that's happening with platinum, as bands are now getting blamed for the ticketing, so they're trying to blame it on TM as they're a well paid scapegoat.
In regards to the Cure. I'm not sure how much a fair comparison they are. I don't think they're on the same level or popularity as bands that can sell out an arena or stadium consistently. Thus the lower demand might take the pressure off, or remove the profitability of platinum tickets.
I do think it's cool that the Cure will be the 2nd band (that I know of) to use the fan2fan ticket exchange (which is just TM's reselling platform restricted to face value). If you're going to sell tickets below market prices, and you want to reduce scalping, you need to lock it down.
I will be curious to see if PJ uses Platinum (ahem PJ Premium) again. They sort of blamed it on the increased costs of running the tour in 2020 vs 2022. IE they needed to raise additional revenues to cover increased touring costs, even though many of the tickets had been sold 2 years prior when it was cheaper to tour. It'll be telling on the next tour whether they do it again.
I guess I should stop ranting. It's why I think not much would change of TM would break up, because why kind of bands don't want a bigger pay day, so how are you going to put the platinum genie back in the bottle.
I just hope PJ has a few good tours left in them, not looking forward to the day when it's no longer an option.
All bands can realistically do is tour to demand - volume of shows, venue sizes, etc. And that's easy for me to say here on the couch but that's just kinda how it is. If you are, hypothetically, a band that is super popular, tours infrequently, and books short runs when you do tour....guess what that means for ticket prices. Hypothetically.
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