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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,934
    mickeyrat said:
      LOL! He was even a former principle. My ASS he has no idea what a fire alarm is. The left are absolute slime. The jussie smollett of the left. LOL. 
    Cannon Office Building. Not the Capitol. Votes dont occur there.

    looking forward to the Capitol Police findings.



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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,990

    sure...funny....but your guy didn't know what Yosemite was. Yo....semite!
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

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    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,990
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
      LOL! He was even a former principle. My ASS he has no idea what a fire alarm is. The left are absolute slime. The jussie smollett of the left. LOL. 
    Cannon Office Building. Not the Capitol. Votes dont occur there.

    looking forward to the Capitol Police findings.



    so he pushed the door, alarm sounded, then he fucked with the fire alarm to try and turn it off or something?

    The alarm went off because of the door right?
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,181

    do you know that the alarm that was pulled looked like that? have you seen photos? if not, maybe bite your tongue until you have.

    if that is what it looked like, and it can be proven he was trying to delay a vote in a building where votes do not happen, then by all means censure him.
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,560
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    Wow, ageism is alive and well. Not saying she shouldn’t have retired , however people a hell of a lot younger than Feinstein are shutting down the govt simply because their lord trump hates democrats. Maybe we have far worse things impacting DC than a 90 yo woman. 
    She missed almost 13% of the votes. 2nd most. But yeah I’m sure her age wasn’t the issue. 

    Her near death state was still more productive than the entirety of the young and rebellious GOP. Youngster tubberville shut it down much longer on his own. Feinstein missed votes bc of shingles complications. Besides , what laws didn’t get passed that would have with a split congress?

    if someone is repeatedly sick bc of age, I agree, time to retire. But respecting elders has taken a strange turn in America. More people are concerned about Bidens age than trumps illegal activities. How many days has Biden missed due to illness? Yet his age is a top concern.
    She missed votes because she was in the process of dying.  Her next campaign song would have been "Knocking on Heaven's Door".  

    I care more about the sitting president's health and mental state than a former president's shenanigans (that he should go to jail for if convicted).  

    The left loves science so much, but repeatedly tells us to ignore it.  We aren't respecting elders because we think the President is displaying signs of aging that we think would inhibit their ability to do the job.  Ridiculous.  Until Musk/Google figure how we can live forever, everyone on this planet has died and gone through the aging process.   It is scientific fact that people age and for many their cognitive functions and abilities decrease with age.  Fact.  We can argue whether Biden still has it, but it has nothing to do with disrespecting elders.  
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,560
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    Trump being able to play golf at his age is pretty good I would say.  He is overweight, but I'd sign up for eating McDonalds and playing golf at 78.  I'd rather be more fit, but I would think Trump is doing better than most 78 year old men.  
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    In a lengthy letter to Democratic colleagues Tuesday, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) cast the predicament facing House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) as one of Republicans’ making and said they would be voting to oust McCarthy given the GOP’s “unwillingness to break from MAGA extremism in an authentic and comprehensive manner.”

    Jeffries blamed House Republicans for unleashing “chaos, dysfunction and extremism on hardworking American taxpayers” by supporting a new rules package, backing out of a funding agreement with President Biden, attaching “radical provisions” to a defense bill and launching an impeachment inquiry without a full vote on the House floor, among other things.

    “We confront a serious, solemn and sober moment,” Jeffries wrote. “The vote that the House will cast this week in connection with a Motion to Vacate the Chair is not about any one individual. Our responsibility as Members of Congress relates to the Constitution, the principle of good governance and the people we are privileged to serve. Nothing more, and nothing less.”

    Jeffries said Democrats remain willing to find common ground on “an enlightened path forward.”

    “Unfortunately, our extreme Republican colleagues have shown no willingness to do the same,” Jeffries said. “It is now the responsibility of the GOP members to end the House Republican Civil War.”

    Rep. Katherine M. Clark (Mass.), the No. 2 Democrat in the House, has sent out official guidance to her caucus, echoing Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries’s earlier remarks to vote against delaying the motion to vacate and also to vote to remove House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.).

    She said if there are further votes Tuesday on House leadership, additional guidance will be sent to Democratic lawmakers.

    Rep. Nancy Pelosi (Calif.), who served as the House’s Democratic leader for two decades — including two stints as speaker, said Tuesday that Republicans should be the ones to decide the fate of Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.). Despite holding a similarly narrow majority as McCarthy does, Pelosi never faced a public challenge to her authority.

    “The Speaker of the House is chosen by the Majority Party,” Pelosi said on social media. “In this Congress, it is the responsibility of House Republicans to choose a nominee & elect the Speaker on the Floor. At this time there is no justification for a departure from this tradition. The House will be in order.”

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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,692
    I've said it here a few times.  Pelosi is the best speaker since O'Neil, then going back to Johnson.  She held the caucus together and a vote never hit the floor without her knowing the whip count. 
    Remember when the progressives threatened to not back her in 18? How long did it take her to crush that rebellion?  Not even a news cycle

    The contrast to McCarthy is embarrassing. 
     
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    mrussel1 said:
    I've said it here a few times.  Pelosi is the best speaker since O'Neil, then going back to Johnson.  She held the caucus together and a vote never hit the floor without her knowing the whip count. 
    Remember when the progressives threatened to not back her in 18? How long did it take her to crush that rebellion?  Not even a news cycle

    The contrast to McCarthy is embarrassing. 
     
    And just as importantly, controlling the squad, you know, those radical dems everyone wants to compare to the Freedumb Caucsuckers. In other words, she compromised where she could. Definition of deftness. Kevie, not so much as he feared, shook and trembled before POOTWH.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,692
    mrussel1 said:
    I've said it here a few times.  Pelosi is the best speaker since O'Neil, then going back to Johnson.  She held the caucus together and a vote never hit the floor without her knowing the whip count. 
    Remember when the progressives threatened to not back her in 18? How long did it take her to crush that rebellion?  Not even a news cycle

    The contrast to McCarthy is embarrassing. 
     
    And just as importantly, controlling the squad, you know, those radical dems everyone wants to compare to the Freedumb Caucsuckers. In other words, she compromised where she could. Definition of deftness. Kevie, not so much as he feared, shook and trembled before POOTWH.
    Right,  remember they hinted at rebellion and she took care of business.  

    And when asked this week what she thought the Ds would do,  she answered "Follow Leader Jeffries".  That's it.  That's how she ran it and how Jeffries did as well.  They let McCarthy twist in the wind and then go down.  It's his own fault for being spineless,  unreliable and unwilling to keep the deals he made. 
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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I've said it here a few times.  Pelosi is the best speaker since O'Neil, then going back to Johnson.  She held the caucus together and a vote never hit the floor without her knowing the whip count. 
    Remember when the progressives threatened to not back her in 18? How long did it take her to crush that rebellion?  Not even a news cycle

    The contrast to McCarthy is embarrassing. 
     
    And just as importantly, controlling the squad, you know, those radical dems everyone wants to compare to the Freedumb Caucsuckers. In other words, she compromised where she could. Definition of deftness. Kevie, not so much as he feared, shook and trembled before POOTWH.
    Right,  remember they hinted at rebellion and she took care of business.  

    And when asked this week what she thought the Ds would do,  she answered "Follow Leader Jeffries".  That's it.  That's how she ran it and how Jeffries did as well.  They let McCarthy twist in the wind and then go down.  It's his own fault for being spineless,  unreliable and unwilling to keep the deals he made. 
    Keep? Cut the deals that he did. What a joke.


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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,934
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,769
    edited October 2023
    Okey dokey.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,934
    I find this exercise a little rude and pointless. We use all sorts of things to express thoughts or emotions that do not originate with or from us.
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    The red throated sparrow perches at midnight.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,692
    The red throated sparrow perches at midnight.
    Every good boy does fine.  
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,769
    edited October 2023
    mickeyrat said:
    I find this exercise a little rude and pointless. We use all sorts of things to express thoughts or emotions that do not originate with or from us.
    Fair enough.  Deleted.  I respect the fact that you use a variety of means of expression.  It wasn't intended for you, but still, not one of my better moments so it's deleted.
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    The red throated sparrow perches at midnight.
    Every good boy does fine.  

    F A C E.
    Now, if I could just get a better grasp on inverted chords and harmolodics!
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,769
    I'm putting this here mainly because I can't stand the thought of a thread with the name Robert F. Kennedy in it.  Please, someone tell me I'm just being overly paranoid this early in the game.  The part I'll put in bold letter here gives me the heebie jeebies. Sheesh...

    Kennedy has polled relatively strongly against Joe Biden, the incumbent Democratic president. Standing next to no chance of winning the nomination, however, Kennedy’s announcement of an independent run was trailed last week. The announcement is set for Philadelphia on Monday.

    Polling shows the potential for a third-party candidate to pull votes from both Joe Biden and Donald Trump, the president’s expected challenger in what would be a contest between aging and unpopular candidates.

    This week, a Reuters-Ipsos poll showed Kennedy “could draw the support of about one in seven US voters”.

    Some observers think Biden likely to sustain worse damage from a strong third-party candidate, perhaps handing the White House back to Trump: a twice-impeached ex-president who faces 91 criminal charges, 17 over election subversion culminating in the January 6 attack on Congress, as well as assorted civil trials.

    Nonetheless, Kennedy’s links to rightwingers including the mega-donor Timothy Mellon and Steve Bannon, a close Trump ally, have been widely reported and his more extreme stances could see also pull support from Republicans.



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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,934
    brianlux said:
    I'm putting this here mainly because I can't stand the thought of a thread with the name Robert F. Kennedy in it.  Please, someone tell me I'm just being overly paranoid this early in the game.  The part I'll put in bold letter here gives me the heebie jeebies. Sheesh...

    Kennedy has polled relatively strongly against Joe Biden, the incumbent Democratic president. Standing next to no chance of winning the nomination, however, Kennedy’s announcement of an independent run was trailed last week. The announcement is set for Philadelphia on Monday.

    Polling shows the potential for a third-party candidate to pull votes from both Joe Biden and Donald Trump, the president’s expected challenger in what would be a contest between aging and unpopular candidates.

    This week, a Reuters-Ipsos poll showed Kennedy “could draw the support of about one in seven US voters”.

    Some observers think Biden likely to sustain worse damage from a strong third-party candidate, perhaps handing the White House back to Trump: a twice-impeached ex-president who faces 91 criminal charges, 17 over election subversion culminating in the January 6 attack on Congress, as well as assorted civil trials.

    Nonetheless, Kennedy’s links to rightwingers including the mega-donor Timothy Mellon and Steve Bannon, a close Trump ally, have been widely reported and his more extreme stances could see also pull support from Republicans.




    if rfk jr was polling so great against biden, why go indy? read something yesterday about gop are targeting him with ads now.

    motherfucker is speaking at cpac for gods sake. 
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,162
    brianlux said:
    I'm putting this here mainly because I can't stand the thought of a thread with the name Robert F. Kennedy in it.  Please, someone tell me I'm just being overly paranoid this early in the game.  The part I'll put in bold letter here gives me the heebie jeebies. Sheesh...

    Kennedy has polled relatively strongly against Joe Biden, the incumbent Democratic president. Standing next to no chance of winning the nomination, however, Kennedy’s announcement of an independent run was trailed last week. The announcement is set for Philadelphia on Monday.

    Polling shows the potential for a third-party candidate to pull votes from both Joe Biden and Donald Trump, the president’s expected challenger in what would be a contest between aging and unpopular candidates.

    This week, a Reuters-Ipsos poll showed Kennedy “could draw the support of about one in seven US voters”.

    Some observers think Biden likely to sustain worse damage from a strong third-party candidate, perhaps handing the White House back to Trump: a twice-impeached ex-president who faces 91 criminal charges, 17 over election subversion culminating in the January 6 attack on Congress, as well as assorted civil trials.

    Nonetheless, Kennedy’s links to rightwingers including the mega-donor Timothy Mellon and Steve Bannon, a close Trump ally, have been widely reported and his more extreme stances could see also pull support from Republicans.





    Damn looks like I missed some excitement here yesterday!


    what’s frustrating as always the gop are controlling the narrative. The gop consistently polls better with topics such as inflation and the economy. The inflation was specifically caused by the insurrection, yet how come the democrats aren’t even bothered with making that argument?

    how could the insurrection cause inflation? Because trump was so preoccupied with not losing the election and trying to jerry rig a way to stay president, he fell completely asleep at the wheel and the supply chains broke down the last year of his first term.

    remember when Biden became president, and the ports in California were lined up with empty shipping containers? It took Biden a year to fix that. So why aren’t we being bombarded by this with ads?

    why has the public been allowed to forget this? What do they think a Republican will do about inflation? This is 100% Biden and the Dems fault. They get out debated all the time by the gop. They waste so much time yapping about trumps indictments, and no one other than Dems care less. Make the arguments that matter, hit your opponent at its strength, blame them for the economic problems. At least read a freaking poll, Biden, before it’s too late.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,181
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    I'm putting this here mainly because I can't stand the thought of a thread with the name Robert F. Kennedy in it.  Please, someone tell me I'm just being overly paranoid this early in the game.  The part I'll put in bold letter here gives me the heebie jeebies. Sheesh...

    Kennedy has polled relatively strongly against Joe Biden, the incumbent Democratic president. Standing next to no chance of winning the nomination, however, Kennedy’s announcement of an independent run was trailed last week. The announcement is set for Philadelphia on Monday.

    Polling shows the potential for a third-party candidate to pull votes from both Joe Biden and Donald Trump, the president’s expected challenger in what would be a contest between aging and unpopular candidates.

    This week, a Reuters-Ipsos poll showed Kennedy “could draw the support of about one in seven US voters”.

    Some observers think Biden likely to sustain worse damage from a strong third-party candidate, perhaps handing the White House back to Trump: a twice-impeached ex-president who faces 91 criminal charges, 17 over election subversion culminating in the January 6 attack on Congress, as well as assorted civil trials.

    Nonetheless, Kennedy’s links to rightwingers including the mega-donor Timothy Mellon and Steve Bannon, a close Trump ally, have been widely reported and his more extreme stances could see also pull support from Republicans.




    if rfk jr was polling so great against biden, why go indy? read something yesterday about gop are targeting him with ads now.

    motherfucker is speaking at cpac for gods sake. 
    they see him as a threat to trump's chances now, so of course they are going to target him. he will take more votes from trump than from biden. the dems see that, because democrats are not stupid.
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      LOL! He was even a former principle. My ASS he has no idea what a fire alarm is. The left are absolute slime. The jussie smollett of the left. LOL. 
    You support a literal nazi. You can’t wash that scum off. 

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    I'm putting this here mainly because I can't stand the thought of a thread with the name Robert F. Kennedy in it.  Please, someone tell me I'm just being overly paranoid this early in the game.  The part I'll put in bold letter here gives me the heebie jeebies. Sheesh...

    Kennedy has polled relatively strongly against Joe Biden, the incumbent Democratic president. Standing next to no chance of winning the nomination, however, Kennedy’s announcement of an independent run was trailed last week. The announcement is set for Philadelphia on Monday.

    Polling shows the potential for a third-party candidate to pull votes from both Joe Biden and Donald Trump, the president’s expected challenger in what would be a contest between aging and unpopular candidates.

    This week, a Reuters-Ipsos poll showed Kennedy “could draw the support of about one in seven US voters”.

    Some observers think Biden likely to sustain worse damage from a strong third-party candidate, perhaps handing the White House back to Trump: a twice-impeached ex-president who faces 91 criminal charges, 17 over election subversion culminating in the January 6 attack on Congress, as well as assorted civil trials.

    Nonetheless, Kennedy’s links to rightwingers including the mega-donor Timothy Mellon and Steve Bannon, a close Trump ally, have been widely reported and his more extreme stances could see also pull support from Republicans.





    Damn looks like I missed some excitement here yesterday!


    what’s frustrating as always the gop are controlling the narrative. The gop consistently polls better with topics such as inflation and the economy. The inflation was specifically caused by the insurrection, yet how come the democrats aren’t even bothered with making that argument?

    how could the insurrection cause inflation? Because trump was so preoccupied with not losing the election and trying to jerry rig a way to stay president, he fell completely asleep at the wheel and the supply chains broke down the last year of his first term.

    remember when Biden became president, and the ports in California were lined up with empty shipping containers? It took Biden a year to fix that. So why aren’t we being bombarded by this with ads?

    why has the public been allowed to forget this? What do they think a Republican will do about inflation? This is 100% Biden and the Dems fault. They get out debated all the time by the gop. They waste so much time yapping about trumps indictments, and no one other than Dems care less. Make the arguments that matter, hit your opponent at its strength, blame them for the economic problems. At least read a freaking poll, Biden, before it’s too late.

    Exactly, L.  What you said here illustrates what I mean about Dems needing to get tough and hit on those points.  Their lack of strategy and hustle that way does not bode well.  If they fuck this one up next year and Trump slips in again, this country is screwed.

    Somebody please prove me wrong on this!
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    If I’m running Brandon’s reelection campaign press operation, I’m inviting the reporters and editorial page writers from all the local newspapers at every campaign stop and inviting them to a two hour meeting to discuss accomplishments and challenges and the administration’s plan to address them, with a local state/district focus. Then Brandon will make two requests of them, to fact check the claims but more importantly honestly report what was discussed, it’s okay to disagree but be honest in what you report, be factual. Mainstream big market media won’t be invited to these Q/A sessions. Let his record and grasp of the issues win them over or not.

    The election is still more than a year out and a lot can happen between now and then as evidenced by this morning’s ME news. Way too soon to panic but if a repub gets elected, yea, the US is fucked.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,934
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,692
    mickeyrat said:
    He should be expelled and I think it would be to the benefit of D's to do that.  It will essentially prevent him from running for the office again.  As it stands he can pull a Trump and run while indicted, and kick the case down the road.  That would be a disaster.  So it's time to cut ties.  
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,934
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    He should be expelled and I think it would be to the benefit of D's to do that.  It will essentially prevent him from running for the office again.  As it stands he can pull a Trump and run while indicted, and kick the case down the road.  That would be a disaster.  So it's time to cut ties.  

    fetterman continues to be the most vocal about resigning , at least that I have seen.  has schumer made a forceful statement?
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