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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,822
    30 minutes? I had no idea.

    (Guess I've never been polled).
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,625
    OnWis97 said:
    30 minutes? I had no idea.

    (Guess I've never been polled).
    I'm not disagreeing with those points, I just have an additional theory based on my experience.  

    Last year (maybe it was the year before) I got a text for some VA polling.  I answered it.  It was run by Youngkin or something.  Anyway I answered the poll and after that I got barraged with other text poll requests.  So that tells me two things:

    1. These polling providers are selling data to each other on people who will respond
    2. That means you get repeat responders likely and therefore maybe not a truly representative sample.  
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,576
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    30 minutes? I had no idea.

    (Guess I've never been polled).
    I'm not disagreeing with those points, I just have an additional theory based on my experience.  

    Last year (maybe it was the year before) I got a text for some VA polling.  I answered it.  It was run by Youngkin or something.  Anyway I answered the poll and after that I got barraged with other text poll requests.  So that tells me two things:

    1. These polling providers are selling data to each other on people who will respond
    2. That means you get repeat responders likely and therefore maybe not a truly representative sample.  
    What do you make of these polls? A 22% spread on whose policies “personally helped/hurt.” Fourth one down. More concerning to me is that the billionaire class is back to supporting POOTWH and are opening up their wallets and checkbooks. Some maxing out the PAC contributions at $875K and donating to his legal defense $1M+. Both the polls and the billionaires, obscene. Totally obscene.

    https://www.nytimes.com/news-event/times-siena-poll-coverage

    And hence why I don’t put too much if any stock in a dem winning a state house seat in a special election in a deep red state as some kind of harbinger of federal congressional and POTUS elections.
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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,610
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    30 minutes? I had no idea.

    (Guess I've never been polled).
    I'm not disagreeing with those points, I just have an additional theory based on my experience.  

    Last year (maybe it was the year before) I got a text for some VA polling.  I answered it.  It was run by Youngkin or something.  Anyway I answered the poll and after that I got barraged with other text poll requests.  So that tells me two things:

    1. These polling providers are selling data to each other on people who will respond
    2. That means you get repeat responders likely and therefore maybe not a truly representative sample.  
    What do you make of these polls? A 22% spread on whose policies “personally helped/hurt.” Fourth one down. More concerning to me is that the billionaire class is back to supporting POOTWH and are opening up their wallets and checkbooks. Some maxing out the PAC contributions at $875K and donating to his legal defense $1M+. Both the polls and the billionaires, obscene. Totally obscene.

    https://www.nytimes.com/news-event/times-siena-poll-coverage

    And hence why I don’t put too much if any stock in a dem winning a state house seat in a special election in a deep red state as some kind of harbinger of federal congressional and POTUS elections.
    Crazy how these polls reflect the effectiveness of narrative control over actual reality. 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,576
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    30 minutes? I had no idea.

    (Guess I've never been polled).
    I'm not disagreeing with those points, I just have an additional theory based on my experience.  

    Last year (maybe it was the year before) I got a text for some VA polling.  I answered it.  It was run by Youngkin or something.  Anyway I answered the poll and after that I got barraged with other text poll requests.  So that tells me two things:

    1. These polling providers are selling data to each other on people who will respond
    2. That means you get repeat responders likely and therefore maybe not a truly representative sample.  
    What do you make of these polls? A 22% spread on whose policies “personally helped/hurt.” Fourth one down. More concerning to me is that the billionaire class is back to supporting POOTWH and are opening up their wallets and checkbooks. Some maxing out the PAC contributions at $875K and donating to his legal defense $1M+. Both the polls and the billionaires, obscene. Totally obscene.

    https://www.nytimes.com/news-event/times-siena-poll-coverage

    And hence why I don’t put too much if any stock in a dem winning a state house seat in a special election in a deep red state as some kind of harbinger of federal congressional and POTUS elections.
    Crazy how these polls reflect the effectiveness of narrative control over actual reality. 
    ‘Murica’s collective amnesia about the time from 1/20/17 to 1/20/21 is astonishing but not surprising. 
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