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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,326
    mickeyrat said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    he obviously didn't mean "nothing" literally. he meant "nothing on the scale of how much could get done". 
    Thank you for clarifying the obvious. I should have known better. 

    And yea, nothing drives people out to vote like infrastructure.

    As one who's body gets the shit beat out of it on particular stretches of road in select areas in the performance of my job DAILY ,  yes infrastructure is fucking huge for me. Yea it can be a pain in the ass navigating construction zones with fucking dumbasses, I'll take repair/progress any day of the week.
    And can you imagine the kind of progress that could've been made on this front, and many others, had so many people not stayed home in November of 2016?
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,669
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    he obviously didn't mean "nothing" literally. he meant "nothing on the scale of how much could get done". 
    Then maybe Nick should have said that, or should readers assume what he means? Honest debate is difficult enough without having to assume what someone meant to say. They could just say what they mean. Would you write an email to your boss or colleagues claiming nothing works around here and assume that they knew you were talking about the printer being down again? As an example. Ever hear the expression, “say what you mean, mean what you say?”

    Carry on.
    you often take things extremely literally, pretty standard for you. I've mentioned this many times. I don't know if it's a flaw, or you pick at things to jump on to somehow "score points". 

    you could always try to embrace a little nuance in conversations. 

    My standards are a tad different when sending out formal correspondence to those I work professionally with than they are on a rock band's message board. 
    Mine are not. Sure, there are often times that I’m flip and I wouldn’t use that in a work communication but you’ll still know where I stand.

    While I’m criticized for my views, approach and other aspects of my posts, I don’t think anyone has to assume where I stand or what my position is. Posting “nothing gets done” when you meant “not enough gets done” are two completely different viewpoints. As such, they may lead to two different paths of discussion. I find not being specific to be intellectually dishonest, as in, “I’ll say ‘nothing gets done’ because typing what I’m really pissed/disappointed/disgusted with is too much work.” Should I assume that when Nick said “nothing gets done” in the context of politics that he’s equating both sides are the same? Because to me, currently, dems are getting shit done, whereas in the previous administration and it’s congress, little got done other than tax cuts for the wealthy, a bungled Covid response and a partial wall that Mexico still owes us for.

    Carry on.


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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,160
    mickeyrat said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    he obviously didn't mean "nothing" literally. he meant "nothing on the scale of how much could get done". 
    Thank you for clarifying the obvious. I should have known better. 

    And yea, nothing drives people out to vote like infrastructure.

    As one who's body gets the shit beat out of it on particular stretches of road in select areas in the performance of my job DAILY ,  yes infrastructure is fucking huge for me. Yea it can be a pain in the ass navigating construction zones with fucking dumbasses, I'll take repair/progress any day of the week.


    Biden had four huge legislative accomplishments (to add to tempo’s list), infrastructure (as you mentioned), chips and science act, IRA (climate bill), and gun safety bill. The same old same old point that started this brouhaha is inaccurate when Biden had a dem congress, but when the GOP takes control, they do everything they can to start a fight over the budget and both parties get blamed.

    all these legislative accomplishments have not occurred in decades, and when the Dems controlled congress last year, this $hit got done. Yet to independents and those who “hate politics” the current budget fight appears as if it’s business as usual. yet the fact that progress is stalled now simply because republicans are the party searching for problems is completely lost to those hating politics independents.

    it’s like blaming Ukraine for the war they are waging.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,856
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    he obviously didn't mean "nothing" literally. he meant "nothing on the scale of how much could get done". 
    Then maybe Nick should have said that, or should readers assume what he means? Honest debate is difficult enough without having to assume what someone meant to say. They could just say what they mean. Would you write an email to your boss or colleagues claiming nothing works around here and assume that they knew you were talking about the printer being down again? As an example. Ever hear the expression, “say what you mean, mean what you say?”

    Carry on.
    you often take things extremely literally, pretty standard for you. I've mentioned this many times. I don't know if it's a flaw, or you pick at things to jump on to somehow "score points". 

    you could always try to embrace a little nuance in conversations. 

    My standards are a tad different when sending out formal correspondence to those I work professionally with than they are on a rock band's message board. 
    Mine are not. Sure, there are often times that I’m flip and I wouldn’t use that in a work communication but you’ll still know where I stand.

    While I’m criticized for my views, approach and other aspects of my posts, I don’t think anyone has to assume where I stand or what my position is. Posting “nothing gets done” when you meant “not enough gets done” are two completely different viewpoints. As such, they may lead to two different paths of discussion. I find not being specific to be intellectually dishonest, as in, “I’ll say ‘nothing gets done’ because typing what I’m really pissed/disappointed/disgusted with is too much work.” Should I assume that when Nick said “nothing gets done” in the context of politics that he’s equating both sides are the same? Because to me, currently, dems are getting shit done, whereas in the previous administration and it’s congress, little got done other than tax cuts for the wealthy, a bungled Covid response and a partial wall that Mexico still owes us for.

    Carry on.


    I would think someone saying "nothing gets done" would be completely obvious not to be taken absolutely literally. come on. 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,669
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    he obviously didn't mean "nothing" literally. he meant "nothing on the scale of how much could get done". 
    Then maybe Nick should have said that, or should readers assume what he means? Honest debate is difficult enough without having to assume what someone meant to say. They could just say what they mean. Would you write an email to your boss or colleagues claiming nothing works around here and assume that they knew you were talking about the printer being down again? As an example. Ever hear the expression, “say what you mean, mean what you say?”

    Carry on.
    you often take things extremely literally, pretty standard for you. I've mentioned this many times. I don't know if it's a flaw, or you pick at things to jump on to somehow "score points". 

    you could always try to embrace a little nuance in conversations. 

    My standards are a tad different when sending out formal correspondence to those I work professionally with than they are on a rock band's message board. 
    Mine are not. Sure, there are often times that I’m flip and I wouldn’t use that in a work communication but you’ll still know where I stand.

    While I’m criticized for my views, approach and other aspects of my posts, I don’t think anyone has to assume where I stand or what my position is. Posting “nothing gets done” when you meant “not enough gets done” are two completely different viewpoints. As such, they may lead to two different paths of discussion. I find not being specific to be intellectually dishonest, as in, “I’ll say ‘nothing gets done’ because typing what I’m really pissed/disappointed/disgusted with is too much work.” Should I assume that when Nick said “nothing gets done” in the context of politics that he’s equating both sides are the same? Because to me, currently, dems are getting shit done, whereas in the previous administration and it’s congress, little got done other than tax cuts for the wealthy, a bungled Covid response and a partial wall that Mexico still owes us for.

    Carry on.


    I would think someone saying "nothing gets done" would be completely obvious not to be taken absolutely literally. come on. 
    It’s left to the reader then to “assume” what the poster thinks or believes “what was done” and “what was left undone” or incomplete or what they have issues with. Lazy.

    I’ll assume Nick is upset that Eric hasn’t abolished the police yet because “nothing” gets done.


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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,856
    he made a general statement about his dissatisfaction with politics/politicians. it didn't require specifics. you read it and move on.  
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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    he made a general statement about his dissatisfaction with politics/politicians. it didn't require specifics. you read it and move on.  
    Lol no They don't.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,669
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    he made a general statement about his dissatisfaction with politics/politicians. it didn't require specifics. you read it and move on.  
    I assume that’s what you do.

    Everything sucks. Agree or disagree?
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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    he made a general statement about his dissatisfaction with politics/politicians. it didn't require specifics. you read it and move on.  
    I assume that’s what you do.

    Everything sucks. Agree or disagree?
    Yes
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,669
    static111 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    he made a general statement about his dissatisfaction with politics/politicians. it didn't require specifics. you read it and move on.  
    I assume that’s what you do.

    Everything sucks. Agree or disagree?
    Yes
    I agree.
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    JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/sen-bob-menendez-indicted-federal-charges-rcna111447

    Just another Democrat doing Democrat things.... Foreign Relations Committee Chair..... This is his second indictment yet the Democrats still give him these powerful positions.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,669
    JB16057 said:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/sen-bob-menendez-indicted-federal-charges-rcna111447

    Just another Democrat doing Democrat things.... Foreign Relations Committee Chair..... This is his second indictment yet the Democrats still give him these powerful positions.
    Have you read anyone here defending him? Maybe appoint him senator for life. I think I heard the DNC and Chuck float this.
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,160
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    he made a general statement about his dissatisfaction with politics/politicians. it didn't require specifics. you read it and move on.  

    We are here to discuss? The truth is, Biden actually got a lot done, until the party of problems took over the House.
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,160
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    JB16057 said:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/sen-bob-menendez-indicted-federal-charges-rcna111447

    Just another Democrat doing Democrat things.... Foreign Relations Committee Chair..... This is his second indictment yet the Democrats still give him these powerful positions.

    If he is convicted I will agree with you he is wrong. I have yet to hear a single Republican call out all the valuables Justice Thomas received. A Supreme Court Justice FFS. 

    Edit, and the myriad of crimes Trump committed?
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,181
    JB16057 said:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/sen-bob-menendez-indicted-federal-charges-rcna111447

    Just another Democrat doing Democrat things.... Foreign Relations Committee Chair..... This is his second indictment yet the Democrats still give him these powerful positions.
    let us know when democrats start calling this fake news and a witch hunt, mmmkay? thanks.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,669
    mickeyrat said:

    Did Soros pay him to say that?
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    curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 3,294
    As I said on the other thread, as a former NJ resident I've long assumed Menendez is dirty AF. Yes, he's absolutely entitled to a fair trial with a jury not composed of me.

    In general, I don't think grifters, criminals, or con artists belong in any branch of government, be it Congress, the Supreme Court, the White House.

    That's surprisingly easy to say. :shrug:
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,669
    mickeyrat said:

    $15.60 a round? Sounds about right for an airport bar. But does it include tip?
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,160
    Hey JB and Linda et al, if you’re going to show up,

    a) hello! and

    b) please compare and contrast the Dems response to the Menendez case  vs the republicans response to the Rep Santos case…

    THANKS!
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,920
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Hey JB and Linda et al, if you’re going to show up,

    a) hello! and

    b) please compare and contrast the Dems response to the Menendez case  vs the republicans response to the Rep Santos case…

    THANKS!

    Or that Rep R from Upstate NY from last year? in the recent past anyway
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,920

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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    mickeyrat said:

    How long until he switches to republican and Rs attack dems for going after a minority and claiming weaponization of the law?
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,320
    static111 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    How long until he switches to republican and Rs attack dems for going after a minority and claiming weaponization of the law?
    Would not surprise me at all! 
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    nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,835
    mickeyrat said:

    Pulling the race card? 😂😂😂 unreal. 
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,181
    mickeyrat said:

    is he trying to defend his actions by claiming his race? i am not sure how the two correlate. is he blaming his race? it is quite simple. if he is corrupt, he is corrupt, no matter his race.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,326
    This Menendez guy seems to get indicted every few years. Resign already, you dope. 
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    nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,835
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    is he trying to defend his actions by claiming his race? i am not sure how the two correlate. is he blaming his race? it is quite simple. if he is corrupt, he is corrupt, no matter his race.
    Beyond ridiculous 
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