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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    edited June 2022
    2-feign-reluctance said:
    It was said they were going to change things up well before the tour. So here we are. 
    Where was this said and what was said? I do not remember that 
  • maximumlawman
    maximumlawman Regensburg, Germany Posts: 229
    We all are getting old - the band and it‘s fanbase. And as in life outside PJ the older you get the more dominant all those aches and pains become and the more you love to complain about stuff, especially stuff that was important to your younger self. Setlists of your favorite band and their length and variety included. 
    As much as I would like to be able to simply join the „Don’t make a mountain out of a molehill“/„Take it easy“/„Das stört doch keinen großen Geist“-club as I honestly still believe that a 128 min PJ-show is still a blast and the worst of my PJ-shows was still better (for me!) than 80% of concerts by other bands - I cannot  get around this strange feeling closer to loss than disappointment: whenever I had to explain the traveling to shows to other people („Pearl Jam - they still exist?“, „To Los Angeles - for just a concert?“, „You have seen these shows two dozen times - don’t they always play the same songs?“), the fact that every show was unique and that every show lasted until I could hardly take any more music was part of my answer. And it was to an important part self-defining for me as a PJ-fan. 
    My hope is that I will adjust to change (by not changing at all?)  and the band will adjust (just a little bit). LA 1 did not feel rushed or too short for me and Berlin somehow did. I cannot say if the difference lay in the ~15 min LA 1 was longer (probably just a small bit), in Berlin‘s cut-off-YLB (a bigger bit), in the balance of the setlist (a small bit) or the fact that I was jetlagged in LA and was not in Berlin (probably a huge part). It is all very subjective. Structuring the show in a way, that there is ample time for the encores might help.
    Enough weepy self-reflection: I AM VERY EXCITED TO SEE PEARL JAM IN FRANKFURT ON TUESDAY! 
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,260
    Didn’t realize making millions of dollars was supposed to be easy.  

    (This should stir the pot).
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,277
    bootlegger10 said:
    Didn’t realize making millions of dollars was supposed to be easy.  

    (This should stir the pot).
    Hahah!
  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    bootlegger10 said:
    Didn’t realize making millions of dollars was supposed to be easy.  

    (This should stir the pot).
    True.

    Don’t most really rich people stop working by their 50’s though? Otherwise what’s the point of all that accumulated wealth 

    no way I work until 65 with however many millions they have 
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,908
    Cropduster-80 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Didn’t realize making millions of dollars was supposed to be easy.  

    (This should stir the pot).
    True.

    Don’t most really rich people stop working by their 50’s though? Otherwise what’s the point of all that accumulated wealth 

    no way I work until 65 with however many millions they have 

    True, but I also don't think there's quite a high like performing in front of a live crowd.  Whether your a musician, comedian, professional wrestler, etc..  I think that's a thing Musician's have a hard time leaving behind.
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,277
    Cropduster-80 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Didn’t realize making millions of dollars was supposed to be easy.  

    (This should stir the pot).
    True.

    Don’t most really rich people stop working by their 50’s though? Otherwise what’s the point of all that accumulated wealth 

    no way I work until 65 with however many millions they have 
    I think it’s more work when/if you want. Which it seems like they’ve been doing for quite a while now. 
  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    nicknyr15 said:
    Cropduster-80 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Didn’t realize making millions of dollars was supposed to be easy.  

    (This should stir the pot).
    True.

    Don’t most really rich people stop working by their 50’s though? Otherwise what’s the point of all that accumulated wealth 

    no way I work until 65 with however many millions they have 
    I think it’s more work when/if you want. Which it seems like they’ve been doing for quite a while now. 
    Totally.

    a short set may be less like work. It’s no longer a job, it’s a hobby.  I could see that 

    being at the point you don’t feel like you have to do anything 
  • maximumlawman
    maximumlawman Regensburg, Germany Posts: 229
    Cropduster-80 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Didn’t realize making millions of dollars was supposed to be easy.  

    (This should stir the pot).
    True.

    Don’t most really rich people stop working by their 50’s though? Otherwise what’s the point of all that accumulated wealth 

    no way I work until 65 with however many millions they have 
    Only rich people who hate their jobs stop working in their 50s altogether  - the others adjust. 
  • apirk72
    apirk72 Posts: 506
    edited June 2022
    DEGBTI said:
    Haven't professional athletes had covid? they seem to be able to still perform at a high level. Hasn't everyone pretty much had covid and yet we still go to work everyday? The reason being covid is kind of a lame excuse 
    There have been plenty of athletes that have come out and said how covid has affected them longer then a week or how ever long they were officially out of it, Jayson Tatum being one of them.  I honestly cant believe people still have to be reminded that anecdotal evidence means nothing and it affects everyone differently.  Just because you were fine and were back to your normal self in no time doesn't mean everyone is.  I do not think it is the reason for shorter sets but I have no idea how the band is feeling so I wouldn't count it out completely.
    Post edited by apirk72 on
  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,325
    PJNB said:
    2-feign-reluctance said:
    It was said they were going to change things up well before the tour. So here we are. 
    Where was this said and what was said? I do not remember that 

    Wasn't it Jeff that was quoted saying he'd like the band to play more concise Zepplin-esque shows?

    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,703
    lol you guys are insane 20 songs is fine by me! If I can do one show per tour I’d be fine too I don’t need to see them 5 times per tour anymore! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Habit4me
    Habit4me Posts: 163
    I'll only bitch about setlist/show lengths if they walk off the stage in Denver (tour closer) at promptly 11pm after ending with their 21st song of the night (Ledbetter)

    😆 

    If they don't go balls to the wall that night, I'll bitch. But until then...Keep rockin.
  • CO278952
    CO278952 Orlando, FL Posts: 1,451
    Amazing set list I saw at my first show. 19 songs!
    1. Rearviewmirror
      • Whipping
        • Go
          • Animal
            • Dissident
              • Even Flow
                • Glorified G
                  • Daughter / Tonight's The Night
                  • Why Go
                    • Jeremy
                      • Alone
                        • Garden
                          • Footsteps
                            • State Of Love And Trust
                              • Satan's Bed
                                • Blood
                                  • Not For You
                                    • Elderly Woman Behind The Counter In A Small Town
                                      • Sonic Reducer
                                        4.17.94 Paramount 9.28.96 Randall's Island 8.25.00 Jones Beach 4.28.03 Spectrum 7.5.03 Camden 7.6.03 Camden 07.08.03 MSG 07.09.03 MSG 7.12.03 Hershey 7.14.03 Holmdel 6.12.08 Tampa 10.19.13 Brooklyn 4.11.16 Tampa 5.1.16 MSG 5.2.16 MSG 8.7.16 Fenway 9.2.18 Fenway 9.4.18 Fenway 9.11.22 MSG 9.16.22 Nashville 9.18.23 Austin 9.19.23 Austin 9.3.24 MSG 9.4.24 MSG Fenway 9.15.24 Fenway 9.17.24 Hollywood 4.24.25 Nashville 5.6.25 Nashville 5.8.25
                                      • gotsome420
                                        gotsome420 Posts: 532
                                        edited June 2022
                                        We've been spoiled with 3hr + shows for years, looking at the setlist seems disappointing. I still can't wait to see these shows when they come to Canada. My speculation is that someone in the band may have long COVID or other health concerns that would negatively impact the tour if they don't properly pace themselves. Looking forward to September!
                                      • devonfz
                                        devonfz Posts: 181
                                        They were playing the shorter sets before any of them had covid I don't think that is the reason and I think everybody in this group loves and supports the band but I think a lot of the Travelling fans deserve a little bit more credit without them I don't think Pearl Jam would have been nearly as big the last 20 years
                                      • PJNB
                                        PJNB Posts: 13,890
                                        edited June 2022
                                        josevolution said:
                                        lol you guys are insane 20 songs is fine by me! If I can do one show per tour I’d be fine too I don’t need to see them 5 times per tour anymore! 
                                        Some people are seeing this band 5 or more times this year. Some people are spending thousands and thousands on travel. Why would what your ok with have to apply to them as well? You have been very open about not even caring if you see a show ever again. Talk about crazy lol
                                      • OfThePearl
                                        OfThePearl Posts: 960
                                        edited June 2022
                                        CO278952 said:
                                        Amazing set list I saw at my first show. 19 songs!
                                        1. Rearviewmirror
                                          • Whipping
                                            • Go
                                              • Animal
                                                • Dissident
                                                  • Even Flow
                                                    • Glorified G
                                                      • Daughter / Tonight's The Night
                                                      • Why Go
                                                        • Jeremy
                                                          • Alone
                                                            • Garden
                                                              • Footsteps
                                                                • State Of Love And Trust
                                                                  • Satan's Bed
                                                                    • Blood
                                                                      • Not For You
                                                                        • Elderly Woman Behind The Counter In A Small Town
                                                                          • Sonic Reducer
                                                                            I love long sets. But drawing from this list ^,

                                                                            Whipping
                                                                            Go
                                                                            Why Go
                                                                            Alone
                                                                            Garden
                                                                            Footsteps
                                                                            Blood

                                                                            Insert these *as part of* ANY 20 song setlist, and I'm Beyond happy.
                                                                            Post edited by OfThePearl on
                                                                          • josevolution
                                                                            josevolution Posts: 31,703
                                                                            PJNB said:
                                                                            josevolution said:
                                                                            lol you guys are insane 20 songs is fine by me! If I can do one show per tour I’d be fine too I don’t need to see them 5 times per tour anymore! 
                                                                            Some people are seeing this band 5 or more times this year. Some people are spending thousands and thousands on travel. Why would what your ok with have to apply to them as well? You have been very open about not even caring if you see a show ever again. Talk about crazy lol
                                                                            That’s on them 20 songs to me is fine it’s just an opinion! And yes I’m ok not seeing this band again! Im more inclined to see smaller bands in smaller venues as of today I don’t have tickets to any shows..
                                                                            jesus greets me looks just like me ....
                                                                          • PJNB
                                                                            PJNB Posts: 13,890
                                                                            josevolution said:
                                                                            PJNB said:
                                                                            josevolution said:
                                                                            lol you guys are insane 20 songs is fine by me! If I can do one show per tour I’d be fine too I don’t need to see them 5 times per tour anymore! 
                                                                            Some people are seeing this band 5 or more times this year. Some people are spending thousands and thousands on travel. Why would what your ok with have to apply to them as well? You have been very open about not even caring if you see a show ever again. Talk about crazy lol
                                                                            That’s on them 20 songs to me is fine it’s just an opinion! And yes I’m ok not seeing this band again! Im more inclined to see smaller bands in smaller venues as of today I don’t have tickets to any shows..
                                                                            All I am saying is what works for you might not be best for others. So many people just look at things from their perspective or preference and think it should apply to everyone else and when thoughts or opinions do not line up they are crazy. 


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