What’s up with Fresno?

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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,604
    PJNB said:
    I had to put that single GA out of its misery not being sold for so long. See you in Fresno!
    My man. 
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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,022
    PJNB said:
    I had to put that single GA out of its misery not being sold for so long. See you in Fresno!
    Good stuff!
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  • D-Rod
    D-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,992
    PJNB said:
    I had to put that single GA out of its misery not being sold for so long. See you in Fresno!
    That’s too funny.   Good for you 
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  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,293
    PJNB said:
    I had to put that single GA out of its misery not being sold for so long. See you in Fresno!
    HAHA

    Kool deal
  • Red Mosqito
    Red Mosqito Posts: 1,239
    If I still lived in San Jose, this show would be a no brainer.
    Still is!
    I've looked into flights and the cost is just too much for us right now. We are going to both London shows in July, and are getting ready to throw down the money for plane tickets back from either London or Paris, depending on where we fly back from. We need to figure it out this weekend. We are going to fly to London, watch the 2 shows and then take the channel train to Paris for a few days. Depending on the difference in the cost of flights, we are going to either fly back from Paris, or take the train back to London and then fly back.  
    Fresno is the Paris of the San Joaquin Valley....
    LOL, Paris, TX maybe. 
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,810
    cutz said:
    PJNB said:
    I had to put that single GA out of its misery not being sold for so long. See you in Fresno!
    HAHA

    Kool deal
    With a PJNB sighting, Fresno is ready to rock.  
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  • Red Mosqito
    Red Mosqito Posts: 1,239
    Haijay said:
    It’s a small market, it’s a Monday night, and the planet is only barely emerging from two years of life changing circumstances, those are three big pretty reasons right there. Nevermind the location, lol. Still, they’ll prob draw 8 to 9 thousand. Not bad not bad
    As far as the other cali shows go, and arizona, they were all sold out in 2020, the whole tour was, AGAIN. Theres 40 million people in cali, it’s not about the demand, it’s the world we still live in right now. With the exception of Oak 1, the shows are basically sold out save for a couple hundred?seats  left, and behind the stage
    BINGO! Not sure where everyone is getting the thought that PJ hasn't been a draw in CA for the past 10 as venues have always sold out on previous West Coast tours. Hell in the last 10 years PJ has only played the Bay Area 4 times with two of those times being Bridge School appearances and another one being a private corporate gig, with their lone proper appearance being OAK 2013, which was sold out. 
  • LaFleur
    LaFleur Posts: 829
    PJNB said:
    I had to put that single GA out of its misery not being sold for so long. See you in Fresno!
    Awesome. 
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  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,329
    Question is will @PJNB make it out of Fresno alive?!
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,145
    PJNB said:
    I had to put that single GA out of its misery not being sold for so long. See you in Fresno!

    let me know if you need to borrow money for a good divorce lawyer.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Red Mosqito
    Red Mosqito Posts: 1,239
    I think that there is a recurrent theme that California got too many shows. If you laid California over the East Coast it would take up NY, MA, CT, DE, DC, MD, VA, WV, NC, SC and portion of GA that would include Atlanta....There are 40 million people in CA.  Playing Oakland and Sacramento is akin to playing NYC and Camden, NJ.  LA and San Diego would be like playing Atlanta and Charlotte.  Nobody would question those planning decisions.  From a geographic standpoint, the planning makes sense-especially taking into account the long wait for any NoCal shows (9 years since they played the Bay Area). Sacramento (20th largest media market in US) hasn't hosted PJ since 1998 (in town) and 2000 (an hour away).  

    Add Vegas and AZ and this geographically becomes as much of an West Coast tour as any East Coast tour that covers that much space...

    The Fresno (55th largest media market) addition to the tour is curious...I am interested in seeing if there proves to be anything "unique" about the stop....

    For what it is worth, here is a media market list:   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_television_stations_in_North_America_by_media_market

    I have always found that this media market list is illuminating when I wonder why artists go to certain cities.  As a West Coast guy I have been stunned to see Sacramento ahead of Milwaukee, Pittsburgh, etc.  

    By the way, I am sympathetic to those folks who have gone far too long without a "hometurf" show by PJ.  I feel lucky to have the opportunity to see them in my hometown this time around...

    Even though I’m very grumpy, it’s important to me to be happy for all the fans that get shows. And to JVs point, this is basically the 2020 tour. But “someone” in management must have known that even in 2020 the msg prices on stub hub were near a grand? Money is a great indication of imbalance with the gig a ton tour. As much as Ed likes to joke they were going to gig a ton, they should have known that their tour routing created a huge imbalance, and the one fix? Add five dates to an already saturated Cali tour, counting 2021? And maybe another for encore 2022? Is this a band in touch with their fans?

    I get that there’s 40 million in CA, but there are far more on the east coast. The DC to Boston corridor has over sixty million in a smaller area.

    Bottom line, it’s brutal for us in the east, and I’m sure Texas and the south as well (and oz is way overdue for some shows!) , where logistically or financially traveling a week and dropping a grand for shows is not realistic. Those TM blue dots for every May date, I don’t think I ever saw one of those on a show for a concert near me, ever. Not once. But hey, enjoy it while it’s there Cali.
    Brutal for you guys in the East? You do realize the band has played a total of 23 shows over the last 10 years between NY, MA, PA, NJ and MD alone. That hardly sounds like a coast that's been starving for shows. 
  • Red Mosqito
    Red Mosqito Posts: 1,239
    JimmyV said:
    It isn't that playing Fresno is bad, or that having an undersold show is bad, or that California is bad. It's that they haven't played arenas in the U.S. since 2016 and the fanbase is starving to see them...and they scheduled one of their few new shows in a city that can't even fill GA. We've never seen GA tickets available like this. It's remarkable, and people are remarking. It's not an attack on the Fresno which we all do know is the American Paris
    That would be Bakersfield.
    LOL! I went to Bakersfield once to see the Black Crowes. Needless to say, I've never gone back. 
  • craigraether
    craigraether Posts: 1,655
    edited April 2022
    PJNB said:
    I had to put that single GA out of its misery not being sold for so long. See you in Fresno!
    I'll get the next one... Swapping Oak 1 for Fresno.. that would make SD, OAK 2, FSN, SAC ... 
    Post edited by craigraether on
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    PJNB said:
    I had to put that single GA out of its misery not being sold for so long. See you in Fresno!
    I'll get the next one... Swapping Oak 1 for Fresno.. that would make SD, OAK 2, FSN, SAC ... 
    Nice!

    @mcgruff10 Actually only added 1 day to the whole trip so an easy decision! 
  • given2fly23
    given2fly23 Evanston, IL Posts: 6,042
    I’m not GA, decided to grab seats and sell my GAs, but would love to meet you guys ( @PJNB and @100 Pacer) in Fresno. That’s gonna be a wild night!
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  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,329
    I’m not GA, decided to grab seats and sell my GAs, but would love to meet you guys ( @PJNB and @100 Pacer) in Fresno. That’s gonna be a wild night!
    What happens in Fresno stays in Fresno.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

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  • given2fly23
    given2fly23 Evanston, IL Posts: 6,042
    edited April 2022
    100 Pacer said:
    I’m not GA, decided to grab seats and sell my GAs, but would love to meet you guys ( @PJNB and @100 Pacer) in Fresno. That’s gonna be a wild night!
    What happens in Fresno stays Fresno
    Wanna get nuts? Let’s get nuts!




    Post edited by given2fly23 on
    Found: Soundgarden Hyde Park DVD (Thank you for the gift!)
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  • LaFleur
    LaFleur Posts: 829
    More GA currently up.  GD I wish I had the testicular fortitude to just say F! this, I'm going to California.  
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    Toronto - '96, '00, '03, '05, '06, '16, '20, '22
    Ottawa - '16, '20, '22
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    LaFleur said:
    More GA currently up.  GD I wish I had the testicular fortitude to just say F! this, I'm going to California.  
    Mcgruff knows a good lawyer :wink:
  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,329
    LaFleur said:
    More GA currently up.  GD I wish I had the testicular fortitude to just say F! this, I'm going to California.  
    YOLO.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

    1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Atlanta 2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2